(Hi. In 2006, I posted what I thought was a better version of the Chase. In 2007, I updated the system to reflect the changes NASCAR had made - adding drivers and giving bonus points for wins instead of based on points positions. I haven't been posting as much, but I've still been keeping track. Here's a repost of the post from last year that explained everything - plus this year's standings using my system. Everyone would be FREAKING OUT if the points ACTUALLY looked this way, I think.)
In 2004 NASCAR
introduced the Chase to the Nextel Cup, taking the top-ten in points
after Richmond, resetting their point totals and letting them race for
the championship. Somewhat surprisingly Kurt Busch, who had been
seventh heading into the Chase, won the 2004 championship. Busch won
the first Chase race and finished fourth, fifth, or sixth in the next
seven of the last nine races en route to the title. In many of those
races Busch was third or fourth among the ten Chasers at the end.
Meanwhile,
Jimmie Johnson got off to a shakier start, and finished ninth among the
ten Chasers at both Talladega and Kansas. However, in the last six
races he WON four times and was the highest-finishing Chaser FIVE
times. IMO, there shouldn't be ANY way a driver who defeats all of his
direct competition in HALF of the races should be ahead of a driver who
did so only once.
It
was that reasoning that led me to create my own version of the Chase
for the Nextel Cup. I had tinkered with a way to score the ten Chasers
separately, while at the same time rewarding trying to reward the
Chasers for racing against the non-Chasers. Finding a balance between
those two factors is important, because if you ONLY have the Chasers
racing against each other, you could have a situation near the end of a
race where there is a Chaser in third-place, behind a non-Chaser in
second-place, but that Chaser wouldn't have any incentive to try and
make that pass at the risk of his place among the Chasers.
The
solution was to have two ways to score points. First, the Chasers were
placed in order from first-to-tenth and given points exactly like the
F1 system (10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1-0-0). Last year at Kansas Mark Martin
finished third, but was the highest finishing Chaser, so he received
ten points. NASCAR has already separated the ten (now twelve) Chasers,
so there should be a premium on how they do against each other.
The
second way to score points is to earn bonus points for finishing in the
top-ten. If a Chaser gets a top-ten finish, he receives bonus points
with ten for winning, nine for second, down to one for tenth. THAT is
important because that means Mark Martin's Kansas result (third while
beating all of the other Chasers) was worth 18 points (ten for beating
the Chasers plus eight bonus points for finishing third), slightly less
than a Chaser would score for winning (which was worth the maximum of
20 points).
Now,
after the 2006 season NASCAR tossed a couple of curveballs into the
Chase. First, they added two drivers for a total of twelve. I thought
about leaving the points the same, so that eight among the Chasers
still received one point and ninth through twelfth received zero
points, but ultimately I decided to add some points, so that only the
last two Chasers in any race receive zero points. I think it is better
to have all of the Chasers, even in a race where several have off-days,
continue to try and beat each other all day if there is the opportunity
to do so.
The
second thing NASCAR did is change the way they seed the drivers at the
beginning of the Chase. Like NASCAR, I had awarded points at the start
of the Chase based on where the drivers sat in points after Richmond.
I didn't necessarily like NASCAR's change to seed the drivers by wins
at the time, but it turned out to create real drama at the end of some
the races in the Race to the Chase, AND it dictated strategy as teams
decided to go for broke for wins (most notably Jeff Gordon's crazy pit
strategy that got him a victory at Pocono). Therefore, I had to change
my own system accordingly.
Finally, here is the JJD Modified Chase for the Nextel Cup v2.0. *ta-DAA*
Bonus points:
After messing around with various ways to work with the change to award bonus points based on wins, I decided the best way to go was to give each driver five
points for each pre-Chase win. I had decided to go this way before the
season, just like NASCAR, and in each of the previous three seasons of
the Chase the most races a driver had won was five, while six (in 2005)
or seven (in 2004 and 2006) Chasers had won more than one race.
Naturally in 2007 Jimmie Johnson has won SIX races, and only FIVE
Chasers have won more than one race, but that kind of thing is going to
happen when you make rash decisions based on only three years of data.
Kyle Busch gets 40 points based on his eight wins before the Chase. Since Carl Edwards got penalized the bonus points he would have had for winning Las Vegas, I took away the five points he would have received and he gets 25 instead of 30 to start the Chase.
Scoring:
The expanded field meant I had to decide whether to change the
scoring. The bonus points are going to stay the same, so that they are
only awarded for a top-ten finish. I guess theoretically the Chasers
could finish first through twelfth in a given race, but then the guy in
eleventh would be eleventh among the Chasers, which does not seem like
a bonus-worthy result.
OTOH,
I am adding points so that there is more separation between the
first-place Chaser and the eighth-place or last-place Chaser in each
race. Now the maximum number of points a Chaser could receive is 25 in
a single race, with 15 for beating the other Chasers and ten bonus
points for winning. Therefore, if the race at Richmond had been a
Chase race, the points awarded would have looked like this:
1 Jimmie Johnson 15 points + 10 bonus points 2 Tony Stewart 12 points + 9 bonus points 3 Denny Hamlin 10 points + 8 bonus points 4 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 8 points + 7 bonus points 6 Jeff Burton 6 points + 5 bonus points 7 Kevin Harvick 5 points + 4 bonus points 8 Jeff Gordon 4 points + 3 bonus points 12 Clint Bowyer 3 points 13 Carl Edwards 2 points 14 Greg Biffle 1 points 15 Kyle Busch 0 points 39 Matt Kenseth 0 points
As
the NASCAR system works, Kyle Busch would have received 72 more points
than Matt Kenseth. That makes sense on the one hand, since Kyle
finished so far ahead of Matt, but Matt finished 39th because he got caught up in someone else's wreck, which is bad luck as much as anything.
OTOH, Kyle ran poorly in comparison to the TEN Chasers who finished
ahead of him. Does he REALLY deserve any kind of reward for finishing
11th out of 12? I say no.
So,
here are the current standings for 2008 with two races to go.
Saturday, November 1, 2008, 09:18 AM EST
[General]
Ron Hornaday won his sixth Craftsman Truck Series race of the season last night, picking up his series-leading sixth win of the season. He also extended two of his career records with his 39th career win in the Truck Series (Jack Sprague is a distant second with 28 wins) and his 43rd overall NASCAR win, which ties him with Dale Jarrett for 19th on the all-time list but is the MOST of any driver who has never won a Cup race.
The win moves Hornaday to within six points of Johnny Benson, who finished third last night while failing to lead a lap. Benson has had a fantastic season as well, with five wins, and if you compare his results with Hornaday's they are actually quite similar.
BEST 17 FINISHES IN 2008 Hornaday: 1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-3-5-5-5-7-8-10 Benson: 1-1-1-1-1-2-2-3-3-3-3-3-4-4-7-8-10
These are almost frighteningly similar. Hornaday's got one more win and more runner-up finishes, but Benson's finished third or fourth seven times. If you take these 17 finishes (nearly 3/4 of the season's races), Hornaday would have ten more points than Benson.
Now, if you look at bonus points, Hornaday has another advantage, and this time is a much bigger one. Benson has led laps in 16 races and led the most laps twice, for a total of 90 bonus points. Hornaday, OTOH, has led the most laps NINE times, while leading in nineteen races, for a total of 140 bonus points, 50 more than Benson. That nets out to a 60-point advantage for Hornaday so far.
However, Benson has a six-point lead over Hornaday in the standings, right? Well, we've covered all of the top-ten finishes each driver has had, and we've covered the bonus points, so where does Benson make up that ground on Hornaday? That would be in their next two "best" finishes.
WORST 6 FINISHES IN 2008 Hornaday: 23-23-24-25-29-35 Benson: 11-11-25-27-30-33
The first part of this I don't have such a huge problem with, actually. Benson's two 11th-place finishes are worth 36 points more each than Hornaday's 23rd-place finishes, so those two finishes alone make up the 60 point-advantage Hornaday had and give BENSON a 12-point cushion. You could argue that Benson deserves credit for two almost top-10 finishes where Hornaday has none, and I wouldn't have THAT big of a problem with it.
The thing is, that Hornaday makes up EXACTLY those twelve points because his 24th and 29th-place finishes are better than Benson's 27th and 30th-place finishes, which means if you take the Jack Roush Chase Plan (with a mulligan) Hornaday and Benson are TIED. So I ask you: who in the heck likes the fact that two guys with eleven combined wins and 34 top-tens in 23 races are having their points-positions affected by races in which they finished 24th-to-30th? Don't these guys deserve better than THAT?
And, the final kicker is that we haven't even talked about these guy's two WORST finishes of the season. Benson has a six-point lead in the standings - which just happens to be the difference between his WORST finish of the season (the 33rd at Memphis) and Hornaday's (35th at Mansfield). And when you really LOOK at those races, Hornaday finished 145 out of 250 laps at Mansfield with 36 trucks in the race, while Benson completed 84 out of 204 laps (scheduled for 200 but extended with a G/W/C finish) with 35 trucks in the race. So, while in reality Hornaday's worst finish was better than Benson's in terms of how much of the race each driver completed, BENSON actually gets more points because HE was fortunate enough to have his problem in a race with LESS trucks AND two trucks that suffered early problems. And, let me just remind you, again...
...THOSE SIX POINTS ARE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!
Also - remember that we've covered this - Benson only finished 27th in Las Vegas because that race had the shortest field of the season - 31 trucks. With a full field Benson potentially loses five spots, which would put him nine points DOWN instead of six points UP. Yet another reason why NASCAR's points system drives me nutty.
I mean, really - THAT is rewarding consistency or whatever the hell NASCAR says their point-system DOES? I don't think so. That is pure 100% blind LUCK.
And just because - here are my point standings in the Truck Series. Yes, Hornaday is ahead but that is almost entirely due to the extra win and all of the bonus points for leading the most laps. Benson would make a fine champion if he wins the title - I just hope if he is it is because he's earned it over these last two races.
(These are expanded to the top-20, just to get Scott Speed in there. That guys impresses me every week.)
CRAFTSMAN TRUCK SERIES Rank Points LW 1 Ron Hornaday 283 1 2 Johnny Benson 267 2 3 Todd Bodine 205 3 4 Kyle Busch 192 4 5 Erik Darnell 166 5 6 Matt Crafton 147 6 7 Mike Skinner 127 7 8 Rick Crawford 117 8 9 Jack Sprague 101 9 10 Dennis Setzer 93 10 11 David Starr 80 11 12 Scott Speed 78 12 13 Colin Braun 69 14 14 Chad McCumbee 68 13 15 Terry Cook 64 15 16 Travis Kvapil 49 17 17 Brendan Gaughan 44 16 18 T.J. Bell 39 18 19 Donny Lia 35 19 20 Ted Musgrave 31 20
Thursday, October 23, 2008, 07:00 PM EST
[General]
Oh, how to revive a long dormant-blog? How about by being totally disgusted at the King? Sounds good, doesn't it?
Kyle Busch's season went down in flames, and in a hurry. Even under the old points system (without the Chase), he would still be third, 183 points behind Jimmie Johnson and 70 behind Carl Edwards. The guy who was winning everything suddenly has pieces failing and tires blowing left and right.
However, that doesn't change the fact that Kyle has won TWENTY races - so far - and that he is only the second driver to reach 20 wins in a season. Ever. Yes, he's won in the Nationwide Series and in the Truck Series, but in today's NASCAR the only way a guy is going to put up an outrageous number of wins is by running at least most of two series. Until we got to the Chase, Kyle was putting up one of the GREAT NASCAR seasons. Period.
Naturally, with the disappointment of his performance in the Chase comes analysis, like here by David Newton, one of the best NASCAR writers on ESPN.com. Right below the fold is this money quote from Richard Petty - The King. Ahem... Petty, who won eight or more Cup races 12 times during his career, believes Busch earned more credit than he deserved for winning 12 times outside the Cup series anyhow.
"Hey, that's like me going back to running Caraway [Speedway], me being a Cup driver and stepping from the major leagues to the minor leagues or high school," said Petty, the all-time leader in Cup wins with 200. "Not throwing that much off on the Nationwide or Truck series, but it's not the same league.
"So, big deal."
Excuse me? RP - did you conveniently forget how different things were back then? Take a look. We'll use Petty's record-setting 1967 season, when he won 27 races, as reference.
- First - don't forget the fields in 1967 were extremely thin. Drivers could have run up to 48 total races that season. You know how many did that? One - The King. Only nine other drivers even ran 40 races. In other words, there were a few full-time drivers and lots of guys who ran partial schedules kind of like, oh, the Nationwide Series, circa forever.
- The smallest field Kyle Busch needed to overcome in one of his wins had 32 trucks - that was at the spring Truck race at Atlanta. Out of the King's 27 wins in 1967, do you know how many had less than 32 cars? How about 17, or nearly two-thirds of his wins that season.
- Nevermind that the Truck Series is run by a group of veterans - AA-level series or not, guy just don't show up with a bunch of talent and beat Ron Hornaday, Johnny Benson, Mike Skinner, Todd Bodine and the crew very regularly, do they? It is probably a deeper field in the Truck Series than the Nationwide Series, though Kyle had to beat may Cup drivers to win the Nationwide races he did.
- One thing I dislike about NASCAR's record-keeping - something I've gone over before - is how EVERY race from back in the day is counted as a race when they don't count today - hello, Daytona qualifers! - and how many small field/short distance-races - like, say, the Myers Brothers 250 at Winston-Salem, which had 18 cars and took 73 minutes to run and won by RP by three laps - count as much as last week's Martinsville race. Really? Kyle's shortest Truck win was at California - took 82 minutes, or nine minutes longer than that win by the King. In fact, only six of Kyle's wins this season have come in races shorter than two hours. Petty's '67 wins? Sixteen out of 27 were shorter than two hours.
So, yeah, other than the fact that well over half of his own wins in 1967 (and several other years before the schedule changed in 1972) had short fields and short distances, the King is exactly right. "Going back to run Caraway?" Heck, he DID that, practically. The only difference between THEN and NOW is that the lines are clear what is and isn't an elite, top-level race now when then there were a mix of junior-ish races and big boy ones.
It's not the King's fault, of course, but don't try to pump up your own achievements (which, by the way, are NEVER going to be remotely touched by today's drivers since the schedules are so different) but running down a guy who has done something turly historic this season, even if his fortunes got flipped in the end.
Monday, September 29, 2008, 08:23 AM EST
[General]
Since Kyle Busch's Talladega win in April, he and Carl Edwards have been sitting 1-2 in my point standings, with Kyle keeping a pretty healthy margin over Carl. After Richmond, Carl was 48 points behind Kyle, but since Kyle (and the rest of Joe Gibbs Racing) has fallen completely off the page for the last three weeks - there's finally something worth posting as Carl has nearly caught Kyle for the points lead.
SPRINT CUP (DRIVERS) Rank Points LW 1 Kyle Busch 308 1 2 Carl Edwards 304 2 3 Jimmie Johnson 274 3 4 Greg Biffle 196 4 5 Denny Hamlin 178 5 6 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 174 6 7 Tony Stewart 166 7 8 Jeff Gordon 164 8 9 Matt Kenseth 163 8 10 Kevin Harvick 143 10 11 Jeff Burton 140 11 12 Kasey Kahne 121 12 13 Clint Bowyer 114 13 14 David Ragan 89 14 15 Mark Martin 80 15 16 Kurt Busch 77 16 17 Ryan Newman 72 17 Brian Vickers 72 17 19 Martin Truex Jr. 70 19 20 Elliott Sadler 52 20
Also - my version of the Chase (explanation here) is very tight as well, but with Carl leading Jimmie Johnson by two points. Greg Biffle would have a bit more work to do to get as close as NASCAR's Chase has him - so much for the value of bonus points, I guess.
2008 ST 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 TOTAL Carl Edwards 25 18 18 21 82 Jimmie Johnson 20 21 14 25 80 Greg Biffle 0 25 25 18 68 Kyle Busch 40 0 0 0 40 Jeff Burton 5 15 5 8 33 Matt Kenseth 0 0 21 12 33 Kevin Harvick 0 4 11 10 25 Jeff Gordon 0 1 9 15 25 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 5 12 1 1 19 Clint Bowyer 5 2 7 2 16 Denny Hamlin 5 6 0 3 14 Tony Stewart 0 8 2 0 10
Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 08:13 AM EST
[General]
Saturday night the Craftsman Truck Series was in Las Vegas for the Qwik Liner Las Vegas 350. Mike Skinner won his first race of the year, and Ron Hornaday finished fifth, taking advantage of Johnny Benson's crash on lap 64 to trim Benson's points-lead to a single point.
But really - what is the reason why Ron Hornaday is not the points leader today? I think you can point to our nation's economy. Yes, I'm being totally serious.
In what is surely a situation affected by economics (and a Gateway-Loudon-Las Vegas in three weeks schedule that likely doesn't help) only 31 trucks were in Las Vegas Saturday - the smallest turnout for a Truck Series race since 2001 at Nashville. When Johnny Benson cut down a tire and hit the wall, he was the fifth truck to retire, leaving him in 27th place.
Now, because of the way NASCAR's points-system works, Benson was awarded 87 points (including five bonus points for leading a lap). HOWEVER, if a full 36 truck-field had turned out for the race, and Benson had been the fifth truck out - he would have been 32nd - receiving 15 LESS points than for 27th. He would actually be 14 points BEHIND Hornaday if not for the short field Saturday.
When you give points to everybody, regardless of the minimum performance, you create a situation where the differences in the worst performances - things dictated often by what drivers can't control like a bad tire or a blown engine or someone else's crash - are as important as the differences in the best ones. That's how dumb luck can be the difference - TOO big of a difference - in a championship.