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Ron Turner doesn't have it.
4 days ago  ::  Nov 25, 2009 - 2:53PM #1
heron25
Posts: 574
Briggs:

Consistency is something the team hasn't lacked for.  Same GM and head coach for past 5 years and same ownership group.  Same OC and same defensive scheme also.  This is purely a talent issue.  Look, Ron Turner isn't an offensive mastermind, but he's not the worst offensive coordinator also.  He has a solid set of plays he runs that would work based on a power O-line.  The reason his scheme's  worked a few years ago is because he had Ruben Brown at LG who was a pro-bowl level power OG and Thomas Jones who ran with power.  His trapping and pulling scheme isn't working now because he has  Beekman (who is vastly over-valued) at LG and an aging C who can't move the nose out of the way anymore.  A new C and new LG and the running game would be much better.  If Kellen Davis gets 20% better as a blocker, he is a better starting TE than Greg Olson ever will be.  Olson is not a first round caliber TE.  If I had to do the line for next year right now with the talent currently on the team, I would go Williams at LT, Lance Louis at LG (he's a heck of a pulling guard and is stronger at the point than Beekman), Beekman at C (never will be a top 10 center but serviceable, Garza or Shaffer at RG and Omiyale at RT.  That would be a better power blocking group, you have a left guard who is mobile enough to pull and block on the move  and you have two guys on the right side that could match up with Kevin Williams and Ray Edwards or Kampmann and Raji.
4 days ago  ::  Nov 25, 2009 - 12:04PM #2
55briggs
Posts: 111
Your right heron about all these number 3 recievers and child like play on the O-line. I htink we have gotten great play out such a young inexperienced group But if we maybe added just 1 big play reciever and a really good tackle and one decent guard I think we could make this team work. everyone knows the thing about Offensive lineman is that they all have different skills we need. Some guy's play great in the run game but can't get it done in pass. It is really hard to get O-lineman that can do both. So we need to get at least 2 guys out there that can do both and some people that can do a big time run block when we need it.
4 days ago  ::  Nov 25, 2009 - 11:57AM #3
55briggs
Posts: 111
This Offense needs alot of practice and some guy's to step up and become the leader. We have some good talent and most of our team is pretty young and dumb. But there has to be some guy's on this squad who can step up and be leaders and help this club stay focused on becoming a better more consistant ball club. Thats been our problem every since i have been a Bears fan the last 43 years . We have had a lot of signs of good play all through the years but we have never shown consistancy. Some of this comes from being such a big city. If you don't win right away you are out the door. Coaches and players both. We need some kind of consistancy.
2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 15, 2009 - 11:25PM #4
dave1960
Posts: 1
The O-line and the  play calling for Cutler an Forte is NOT there. Turner was let go before for the same SH#t. Calling the same mess over an over. IF THERE IS NO PROTECTION for Cutler or no one to open holes for Forte THERE WELL BE NO RUNNING GAME AN CUTLER WILL MAKE MISTAKES. WITH OUT THE O-LINE. I knew when they got Tuner back this was going to happen. He could not call the right plays then an he will not now.....THOSE WHO DO NOT LEARN FROM THE PAST ARE DESTINED TO REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKES.......As for the penalties an they are too many. WE need someone to light some FIRE under these guys .Like J .GRUDEN, OR DITKA , OR SOMEONE TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN WHEN MISTAKES HAPPEN.  O-LINE  OR D-LINE......     Angry
2 weeks ago  ::  Nov 14, 2009 - 4:48AM #5
55briggs
Posts: 111
Our Offensive line is a joke,Cris Williams was pancaked by the Defensive end like 3 or 4 times this week. This off season we have to build an actual O line. I don't care if its with free agency or the draft or what ever we can figure out. I love olin Kreutz but I don't think he can possibly lead this Offense much longer. He is still a great blocker and tougher than nails but we have to at least start looking. I know a couple of centers that will be availlable this year or we could find one in the draft.But obviously these guy's aren't going to make it. Garza is still pretty good but he has seen his best seasons pass already.
3 weeks ago  ::  Nov 11, 2009 - 9:48AM #6
heron25
Posts: 574
you are absolutely right NoBearHater.  Mike Shanahan and Mike HOlmgren would do much better with this offensive line, a non-blocking TE and a bunch of #3 WR's. 

Here's the deal- no offensive coordinator looks good when your line can't block and your WR's can't run patterns.  I don't care if Bill Walsh is your OC.
3 weeks ago  ::  Nov 10, 2009 - 6:42PM #7
NoBEARhaters
Posts: 1
ron turner sucks! fire him not now but yesterday!
4 weeks ago  ::  Nov 03, 2009 - 7:11AM #8
55briggs
Posts: 111
I don't know airplane man I have never read the cubs page obviously you have. Must be a riot.HA HA
4 weeks ago  ::  Nov 01, 2009 - 8:33PM #9
roscoerulz
Posts: 752
Is that the same Tribune that always picks the Cubs to do well?  Might take what they say with a grain of salt.  Oh, congrats on the win but it was only the Browns.  Not dissing but I can imagine what would happen tomorrow if you all lost that game.  hehehe
Here is to those that have gone before us and to those serving on the front lines to ensure our freedoms.
1 month ago  ::  Oct 28, 2009 - 10:44PM #10
55briggs
Posts: 111
Well evryone we were taliking about Holmgren ,Shannahan,Gruden even Jeff Fisher and I heard them say Brian Billick, So thats the hype around town today. I just hope if we change coaches we will get a good one before their all picked through. They said RT is definitely oughta here. Now this wasn't from our management just our reporters and analyzers from the Tribune news"
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