How much longer is the ownership going to try to sell the fans that Hurdle & Apodaca are good at what they do? Nice guys do not make good managers or coaches. The Rockies went to the World Series last year IN SPITE of these 2. If you watched closely Hurdle pretty much stayed in the shadows and allowed the players to just play and Apodaca made a minimum amount of trips to the mound. Look at what is happening to our pitchers and to the majority of our 300+ hitters. Cook is a veteran pitcher, Helton is Helton and Barmes is being left alone. Frances, Jiminez and Corpas are in the tank now. Atkinins is soin okay but where is Hawpe and Holiday is struggling. Before Tulo went down the word was he's probably pressing too hard. That should be Hurdle and the coaches job to step in and help him through it. When will someone wipe away this enamorment with Hurdle and Apodaca? How many top pitching prospects will we see succeed and then after the first season go in the tank? I'm only a fan and claim no expertise in anything. We've seen this before and since we now know the caliber of talent they have and the level they can play at, to watch a team like this do what they're doing now is a shame.