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Thursday, September 14, 2006, 10:00 AM EST
[General]
A comment from reader "underthebus1":
Aaron, regarding Alexander being pushed out of bounds, shouldn't you also account for td's scored untouched? Shaun had 28 td's in 2005 and 20 in 2004. I know from watching the games last year a good percentage of those were 'untouched' td's.
This is a good point. Now, we can't tell from the play-by-play what was an "untouched" touchdown, but think about it -- a touchdown is really no different from going out of bounds, because you don't get smacked and tackled at the end of it. There are exceptions, of course: goal-line plunges. So let's re-run the numbers on which players had the most "untackled" runs. This represents all runs listed as ending out of bounds, plus touchdowns, minus touchdowns from the one- or two-yard line. Again, this is carries only, not catches.
Now we're really starting to see a difference between Alexander/Tomlinson and everybody else. Alexander scored 15 of his 27 touchdowns from more than two yards out. Edgerrin James, on the other hand, scored only four of his 13 touchdowns from more than two yards out. The percentages are stronger also. Alexander finished 11.4% of his runs "untackled." LT was untackled on 10.0%, Steven Jackson on 9.8%. Every other back with over 200 carries last year was under 7%.
To look at this a little differently, here's the list of the top 10 running backs in carries that ended with tackles (estimated off the PBP, of course), along with their actual number of carries:
Based on a search for OB in the PBP, which I'm assuming is complete,
Reggie Bush ran out of bounds 9 times on Sunday. That's out of 25 touches.
The next highest OB for a player (not counting MNF) was 5 (Coles, Holt & Westbrook).
Only two TEAMS ran out of bounds more than Reggie Bush.
Just thought that was interesting....Looks like he's trying to avoid the big hits.
Wednesday, September 13, 2006, 10:42 AM EST
[General]
Let's continue the discussion of Shaun Alexander and the Curse of 370 Carries. Before we do, I should note that yes, the Seattle offensive line played badly against Detroit, and this was a big reason why Alexander had a bad day -- and why Hasselbeck was sacked five times. As Mike Sando points out, Hasselbeck was never sacked five times in a game last year. His last game with five sacks came in September 2004 against the Bucs -- whose line was coached, of course, by Rod Marinelli.
Anyway, at the Seattle book signing for Pro Football Prospectus 2006, Zachary Geballe (a.k.a. Sportszilla) brought up an interesting point about Alexander and 370 carries. The knock on Alexander in the past was that he avoids contact and runs out of bounds too much. The negative implication of this is that he's a wuss. Here's the thing Geballe noted: 20 years ago, people made this same complaint about Eric Dickerson, who is the only running back to carry the ball 370 times season after season without breaking down. Does Alexander, in fact, get out of bounds more than other running backs? If so, this may be a positive thing, making it less likely that he will succumb to the Curse of 370 Carries.
(By the way, anyone who thinks Shaun Alexander is a wuss is an idiot. Every running back in the NFL is hit over and over again all year, out of bounds or no out of bounds. They're all pretty tough individuals compared to the rest of us.)
I went into the 2005 regular season play-by-play and counted the number of rushing attempts where a running back was listed as "pushed ob" or "ran ob." This includes plays cancelled by penalties, which aren't counted in the actual total carries. Here are your leaders:
So Alexander did end a run out of bounds more often than any running back (the actual number one was Michael Vick, with 33 runs that ended out of bounds). He also had a higher percentage of runs end out of bounds than most other running backs. Here are the numbers for the 10 running backs who had more than 300 carries last year:
37-S.Alexander: 27 of 370 (7%) 32-E.James: 14 of 360 (4%) 21-T.Barber: 13 of 357 (4%) 26-C.Portis: 19 of 356 (5%) 21-L.Tomlinson: 24 of 339 (7%) 32-R.Johnson: 7 of 337 (2%) 27-L.Johnson: 10 of 336 (3%) 21-W.McGahee: 17 of 325 (5%) 20-T.Jones: 15 of 314 (5%) 34-R.Droughns: 5 of 309 (2%)
This leads to two other questions that I'll need to explore in the future. First, is this constant from year to year? Was Alexander the leader in this stat in 2003 and 2004 also? Second, what does this stat look like for past 370-carry running backs? Did Tomlinson not decline in 2003 because he got out of bounds on a lot of his runs in 2002?
Shaun Alexander carried the ball 370 times in the 2005
regular season, and another 60 times in the postseason. In the Seattle chapter of Pro Football
Prospectus 2006, I looked into our theory that running backs generally break
down after 370 carries, and expanded it to 370 carries in the regular season OR
390 carries including the postseason.
So of course, Alexander signs a huge contract and then comes
out and is the least valuable player in football his first week according to
our PAR (Points Above Replacement) stats from the Quick Reads column. So I
wanted to know: is this a sign that Alexander has broken down due to last
year's workload?
I went back to all the running backs who went over 370
carries or 390 (postseason included) since 1997, to see how they did in the
first week of the following season. Was
a bad Week 1 a sign that the player had broken down?
Curtis Martin 2005: 20 carries, 57 yards, -2.7 PAR vs. Kansas City. This was
just one of a lot of bad first-week rushing performances last year. Travis
Henry, Tatum Bell, and Kevan Barlow were all below -4.0 PAR rushing in Week 1.
Corey Dillon 2005: 23 carries, 63 yards, 1.2 PAR vs. Oakland.
Jamal Lewis 2004: 20 carries, 57 yards, -1.0 PAR vs. Cleveland. The Browns had
one of the worst run defenses in the league that year, 28th in DVOA, so this
was even lower once we had enough info to do opponent adjustments.
Ahman Green 2004: 33 carries, 119 yards, 2.0 PAR vs. Carolina. Just to show
that not everybody who has a bad Week 1 ends up with a bad season, Rudi Johnson
had -3.1 PAR that week and ended up sixth in the league with 1,454 rushing
yards.
Ricky Williams 2003: 17 carries, 69 yards, -2.2 PAR vs. Houston. This was the
infamous Miami
loss that got tons of people tossed from their suicide pools, and definitely a
warning that something was wrong with Ricky.
LaDainian Tomlinson 2003: 13 carries, 34 yards, -2.1 PAR vs.
Kansas City.
Was this a sign that LT was worn down from 372 carries in 2002? Actually, it
wasn't. Tomlinson is one of the few players to actually improve the year after
breaking 370 carries -- despite starting the season with this terrible game
against one of the league's worst run defenses.
Eddie George 2001: 18 carries, 49 yards, -2.6 PAR vs. Cincinnati. A bad game,
but seven other running backs had worse games in Week 1 of 2001. The worst of
all was Stephen Davis: 14 carries, 35 yards, three fumbles, -10.0 PAR. Once
again, this was a fluke game, not a sign of things to come. Davis finished the season third in the league
with 1,432 total yards.
Edgerrin James 2001: 28 carries, 135 yards, 4.3 PAR vs. the
Jets. That was the best rushing performance of the week, but Edge's problem
wasn't decline after 387 carries in 2000, it was a catastrophic injury in Week 7.
Eddie George 2000: 17 carries, 37 yards, -1.6 PAR vs. Buffalo.
Jamal Anderson 1999: 16
carries, 50 yards, -0.1 PAR vs. Minnesota.
Curtis Martin 1999: 19 carries, 85 yards, -2.0 PAR vs. New England.
Terrell Davis 1999: 19 carries, 61 yards, -0.9 PAR vs. Miami.
Terrell Davis 1998: 22 carries, 75 yards, 2.8 PAR vs. New England. Davis
holds the all-time record with 481 carries in 1997, including the postseason. A
year later, suffice it to say, he did not decline. Two years later is a
different story.
Dorsey Levens 1998: 25 carries, 59 yards, -1.6 PAR vs. Detroit.
Average, not including Alexander: 22 carries, 73 yards, -0.5
PAR.
That doesn't look good for Alexander. All of the players who
were coming off heavy-workload seasons and had bad Week 1 games ended up with
major decline seasons, injuries, or both. Most of the "fluke" bad games in Week 1 come from players who were not overworked the year before. There's one huge exception: LaDainian
Tomlinson in 2003. But he was 24 years old with just one season in the NFL.
Alexander is 29 and has gone over 325 carries for three straight years.
Postscript: From the comments, I can see I didn't make it clear: I'm not passing judgment here. You can't pass judgment based on one game. I'm simply presenting information because I was curious about the past history of 370-carry backs in Week 1.
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