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by: xphoenix87
NBA Legends Draft: Matchups and Schedule
Jul 17, 2007 | 11:25PM | report this

Well, Hoff has complicated things a bit with the fact that he'll be gone till Monday, but that does give us a good long time to formulate arguments. The problem is that I have to leave the country on the 26th and will be out of contact, so we're going to have to squeeze this thing in there. Here's the schedule I'm thinking of.

Friday - 20th: AK47spiderman vs. dehbashi. Arguments should be submitted by 9:00AM EST.

Saturday - 21st: Voting for first game ends at 9:00AM EST. xphoenix87 vs. genez13. Arguments should be submitted by 9:00AM EST.

 

Sunday- 22rd: Voting for second game ends at 9:00AM EST. GR8ONE54 vs. ricko. Arguments should be submitted by 9:00AM EST.

Monday- 23nd: Voting for third game ends at 9:00AM EST. JoshQPublic vs. Hoffman. Arguments should be submitted by 9:00AM EST.

Tuesday - 24th: Voting for final first round game ends at 9:00AM. The 4 winners will move on and should have their arguments in by 2:00PM (this shouldn't be hard since you've already made one argument for your team, and you know in advance the two teams that you might face if you advance).

Wednesday 25th - Voting will end 24 hours after the second round arguments are posted. Arguments for the final game will be expected sometime that night (time TBD).

For results from the final round, I likely won't be around when they play out, so I'll be handing the responsibilities of officially announcing the winner to someone else. Since I won't be there to put a time limit on that, the voting for the finals can go longer than 24 hours, but that can be decided later.

Everyone okay with that format? I'm sorry it's a bit rushed, but I'm doing my best with the circumstances.

Anyway, here are the matchups, done completely by randomization.

Official Lineups

AK47Spiderman
Oscar Robertson
Julius Erving
John Havlicek
Bob Pettit
Charles Barkley
George Mikan
Dikembe Mutumbo

dehbashi
Tim Duncan
Nate Thurmond
Clyde Drexler
Paul Azrin
George Gervin
Jason Kidd
Jerry Lucas

xphoenix87
Michael Jordan
Moses Malone
John Stockton
Lebron James
Kevin Garnett
Wes Unseld
Bruce Bowen

genez13
Magic Johnson
Shaquille O’Neal
Karl Malone
Rick Barry
Allen Iverson
Pete Maravich
Patrick Ewing

JoshQPublic
Bill Russell
Jerry West
Kevin McHale
Elgin Baylor
Clyde Frasier
Dave Debusschere
Tiny Archibald

Hoffman
Hakeem Olajuwon
Kareem Abdul-Jabar
Isiah Thomas
James Worthy
Earl Monroe
David Thompson
Chris Mullin

GR8ONE54
Wilt Chamberlain
Bob Cousy
Scottie Pippen
Reggie Miller
Dominique Wilkins
Bill Walton
Dwayne Wade

ricko
Larry Bird
Kobe Bryant
Elvin Hayes
Steve Nash
David Robinson
Alex English
Joe Dumars

And let the smack talk begin :)

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FlyingPig
Jul 18, 2007
4:06 AM
Hey X, I know that you ignored the invitation to actually attend the awards ceremony...but I'm standing here with you Golden Swirrly #### Award. Do you want it or should I throw it away? If you want it then you have to come over to my blog and pick it up.

AK47spiderman
Jul 18, 2007
6:28 AM
the schedule seems a bit rushed (for instance if you advance on tusday at 9am, you need your second round article written by 2pm that same day)

is there a way we can start earlier than monday and have hoffman work around us?

AK47spiderman
Jul 18, 2007
6:29 AM
i also like the idea of writing our articles on our own blogs to keep all the smack talk for particular games organized and the judges have an easy way to view it. then on your main blog you coul post hyperlinks to the different blogs

AK47spiderman
Jul 18, 2007
6:32 AM
reason i'd like mine on my own blog is i will be doing a lot of formatting and design to it

Hoffman
Jul 18, 2007
6:33 AM
Sorry Lil' Spidey, Uncle Hoffman has a wedding to attend this weekend.

Maybe it would be best if we took a day off between matchups.

Coach_Mac
Jul 18, 2007
6:36 AM
I think the problem with the day off is phoenix is leaving for somewhere on the 26th.

Coach_Mac
Jul 18, 2007
6:36 AM
Good morning, guys!

Coach_Mac
Jul 18, 2007
6:37 AM
btw, Ak... who did you select last?

Hoffman
Jul 18, 2007
6:38 AM
Also, there are several issues with posting the arguments on our own blogs.

First and foremost there are only 5 places on the main board for NBA postings. There are 8 teams. It would be pretty difficult to guarantee that X remains on the main board when we're all posting new material at the same time.

There's also the matter of convenience. I want voters to read my argument and my opponets at the same time. It doesn't make much sense to have them go back and forth.

Finally, I know Lil' Spidey loves technology but is it far fetched to believe that one would have an advantage due to the appearance of their argument. I think formatting for everyone's argument should be decided by X and should be uniform.

"Just my thoughts."

AK47spiderman
Jul 18, 2007
6:57 AM
well i will be doing pictures, videos, charts, and other surprises on my blog

so i can guarantee you mine will not be uniform

mac - my last pick will be coming in a couple mins, deciding over payton, parish, or mutombo

ReverendRhythm
Jul 18, 2007
6:57 AM
For what it's worth, I promise to read everyone's case and be as impartial as possible.

Now Hoff, where's that check?

xphoenix87
Jul 18, 2007
7:03 AM
Spidey - I'm planning on doing round 1 in 4 separate posts, 1 for each "series". That way, the debate/smack talk doesn't get all mixed up. I think that it works better this way as we're able to keep the two arguments in the same place for easy reading, and it makes sure that both arguments are posted at the same time.

Hoff - I really wish we could have a day in between, but like I said in the post, I'm going on a 3 week trip to Europe starting the 26th, so that doesn't leave a whole lot of time If you can't start until the 23rd. If anyone has schedule ideas, let me know, but I can't see a better way to do it in such a limited time.

xphoenix87
Jul 18, 2007
7:06 AM
Spidey - if you want to do all that stuff, just type the thing up under "write a post", and then convert it to html (there's a handy little button that does that) and send it to me.

ReverendRhythm
Jul 18, 2007
7:07 AM
Phoe, for the record, there's no longer a military draft. You don't have to flee the country.

AK47spiderman
Jul 18, 2007
7:07 AM
xp sounds great =)

yea ill just send you the html version

thnx buddy

AK47spiderman
Jul 18, 2007
7:12 AM
ok i posted my pick

Hoffman
Jul 18, 2007
7:24 AM
Rev

The check's in the mail...what's your address again?

AK47spiderman
Jul 18, 2007
7:34 AM
hehehehe i already sent him 20 bucks on paypal

Hoffman
Jul 18, 2007
7:47 AM
TWIN TOWERS.

JoshQPublic
Jul 18, 2007
7:54 AM
who's playing for second ####?

Hoffman
Jul 18, 2007
7:54 AM
Good luck JoshQPublic.

Coach_Mac
Jul 18, 2007
7:54 AM
So we have to wait a week for the first round, right Hoff???

JoshQPublic
Jul 18, 2007
7:57 AM
thanks hoff...

this is gonna be fun

Hoffman
Jul 18, 2007
7:58 AM
Honestly, I don't know how much time I'm going to have to devote to Monday's argument. I have to help prepare for the wedding all week. I'm leaving today.

I'm the best man too so it's going to be a busy week for me.

Luckily, I drew Josh in the first round.

Lol. Just playin' Josh.

JoshQPublic
Jul 18, 2007
8:00 AM
twin towers shcmowers...more like faulty towers

Hoffman
Jul 18, 2007
8:00 AM
The trash talking has begun.

:)

Last edited by Hoffman on July 18th at 8:01 AM.

JoshQPublic
Jul 18, 2007
8:02 AM
yes it has...no mr nice guy

Coach_Mac
Jul 18, 2007
8:38 AM
50 greatest NBA players NOT drafted by our esteemed GM's....

Dave Bing
Dave Cowens
Billy Cunningham
Hal Greer
Sam Jones
Robert Parish
Willis Reed
Dolph Schayes
Bill Sharman
Lenny Wilkins

Anyone having second thoughts?

AK47spiderman
Jul 18, 2007
8:42 AM
parish and cowens were on my radar for my last pick, but cowens is too small even though he was the best big man left

parish fit my team well and added to my strengths, but mutombo and mikan together as defenders was too good for me to pass up

AK47spiderman
Jul 18, 2007
8:43 AM
the rest of them were not really on my radar, but i had them on my list of choices

JoshQPublic
Jul 18, 2007
8:50 AM
the only guy i might have taken would be cowens..other than that i stand by my picks

ricko
Jul 18, 2007
9:01 AM
Just now saw this. Full speed ahead with the schedule. No one said this would be easy . . .

Prepare to eat my dust, losers.


BTW, I will posting my arguments, (plural, 'cause I plan on being around to the end) on my own blog. I think that's the best way. I'm sure all who want to read/vote know who we are and can find our posts. Now if you'll excuse me, Coach Auerbach and I have to settle our guys down. They're all chomping at the bit and arguing over who's going to get first dibs on torching Reggie Miller (I chuckle every time I think of it). Oh, and we have to decide which victory cigars we are going to order.

Last edited by ricko on July 18th at 9:05 AM.

ricko
Jul 18, 2007
9:06 AM
Wait, I see Hoffman's got TWIN TOWERS???

(j/k)

AK47spiderman
Jul 18, 2007
9:11 AM
lmao

Hoffman
Jul 18, 2007
9:18 AM
LOL

Coach_Mac
Jul 18, 2007
9:38 AM
xphoenix87 went modern with 3 current players, none of which are on the greatest 50 list.

dehbashi selected 2 current players, however, Duncan will be on the list eventually, JKidd... probably not.

JoshQPublic stayed with the tried and true... all on the 50 greatest list, but only McHale has logged minutes since 1984.

genez13 drafted 2 current players with Shaq on the 50 list and AI only a good argument away.

ricko went with 2 current players both playing their way to legend status, but currently 4 non-50 greatest makes this the "Legendary" team right now.

GR8ONE54 has a good mixture of old and new, but also 3 non-50 listers. However, Wade (his only current player) will be there one day and Miller and Wilkins are in the discussion.

Hoffman took Thompson and Mullin with his last two picks as role players and both are non-50 guys.

AK47spiderman drafted the ageless wonder in Mutumbo as his only current and non-50 player, but otherwise not a bad with the last pick of the draft.

So we have 11 current players and 14 non-50 greatest all time players.

Ok, so I'm bored.... LOL

Last edited by Coach_Mac on July 18th at 9:39 AM.

AK47spiderman
Jul 18, 2007
9:40 AM
coach, you might like this: i have one player from every decade, and at least one of my players has been in 50 of the 56 all star games of all-time

AK47spiderman
Jul 18, 2007
9:41 AM
(missing only '99 '03 '04 '05 '06 and '07)

Coach_Mac
Jul 18, 2007
9:48 AM
You're right spidey... I like those kinda stats.

Gotta question... since only 11 current players were selected and Shaq, Kobe and Duncan are the only bonafide top-50 players right now, does that mean we are waiting on the youth to mature OR that the players just aren't as good today as they use to be????

Last edited by Coach_Mac on July 18th at 9:49 AM.

AK47spiderman
Jul 18, 2007
9:50 AM
i think there is a lot of hype around current players (rightfully so as we are living in today)

so i think thats why so many non-legends got drafted

ricko
Jul 18, 2007
9:51 AM
Neither, Mac. I think most of us drafted with the idea of putting together a good TEAM in mind, not necessarily the best player at that spot in the draft. Therefore, some of the better players got passed over.

pumpdude
Jul 18, 2007
9:51 AM
Ricko...wheres the loyalty man?

Hoffman
Jul 18, 2007
9:56 AM
Mac

You're really questioning the selection of David Thompson?

His career was cut short because of personal issues but the man scored 73 points in one game.

He was one of the greatest scorers of all time.

D had a 48 inch vertical!

Hoffman
Jul 18, 2007
9:59 AM
Mac

Mullin was first team all-nba in 1992.

Remember who was in the league at that time?

The 80's and early 90's were the greatest era in NBA history.

Again, we're not drafting strictly based upon careers as a whole. You can also argue based upon a small window of a player's career.

There are plenty of players who had Hall of Fame portions of their careers but they were cut short by injury or tragedy.

Coach_Mac
Jul 18, 2007
10:01 AM
Another juicy stat... only 13 #1 picks since 1966 were selected. That's 13 out of 42. Not a good track record.
And only 22 Lottery picks (top 14) since 1980. That's 22 out of 392. WOW!!!!

And I love this one... only 1 out of 140 picks selected 6-10 made our draft..... drum roll please... Chris Mullin!

ricko
Jul 18, 2007
10:02 AM
pump-I did take Nash, and actually thought very hard about taking Walter Davis, but opted for English instead. Are you suggesting Connie Hawkins? Alvan Adams?





Dennis Awtrey, perhaps?

Coach_Mac
Jul 18, 2007
10:09 AM
Hey Hoff.... remind me not to give you my home address.... LOL

I loved David Thompson's game just like I loved Dr. J and MJ... I favor the high-flyers for some reason. But I was just making the observation that he and Mullin didn't make the Greatest 50 list. However, if we wanted to really get technical and talk about Greatest Seasons....

Gotta go get some chow, guys... I'll be back shortly.

xphoenix87
Jul 18, 2007
10:17 AM
I get bonus points for having the only player who has never played in an all-star game, right?

pumpdude
Jul 18, 2007
10:19 AM
Ricko...Hawk and Davis would have been great for the run game. Nance would have been offense and defense. KJ's game (one of the best). Heck, Chambers would have been worth a look for team chemistry. I know..don't laugh..I'm a homer

ricko
Jul 18, 2007
10:27 AM
You're right, pump. I'm ashamed of myself . . .

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