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The French Trifecta (and wrap up from the Iowa trifecta)
Jun 28, 2007 | 7:24PM | report this

Well let’s start with the wrap from the weekend that was. JayJayDean continues to set the bar becoming the first back to back trifecta winner and the first 3 time winner. JJ had a great runs in both NASCAR events and managed to get through the crash fest that was that IRL race at the new Iowa speedway. JJD’s main competition was again photogr who managed to get a hit a high note by picking the #2 finisher in the Nextel Cup race.  So in 5 weeks we have not been able to correctly predict the winner of a Cup race (albeit we have had 3 first time winners). He picked Jeff Burton who finished 3rd but Kevin Harvick was who was 2nd was not eligible being a past road course winner.

When I put together the non-road course winner aspect, I thought for sure somebody would take Juan but it ended up being too obvious of a choice.

Congratulations JayJayDean.

Final Results

JayJayDean--------------18
photogr--------------------22
Tezgm99------------------28
williamwilman-----------33
Dave_in_Indy------------(29)
14Falcons-----------------(30)

The last 2 were put there because their picks for the Busch race were late. I’m glad they didn’t win or I would have had to impose a real penalty. Any way they seemed like honest mistakes but those races will not be considered in their overall average. One last note, I think if we take those picks into consideration this had to be out lowest collective score(average) by almost 10 points. Good work folks. Once again I’m pulling down the class average (it’s just like high school all over again).

Season Averages

JayJayDean-------------23.92
photogr-------------------28.17
Tezgm99----------------36.60
Dave_in_Indy-----------38.32
14Falcons---------------40.75
williamwilman----------47.15

Now on to this week where all three major series’ are in action. And to put a little twist on things and because the French are famous for their backward way of thinking I have to decided turn the Trifetca upside down. This week you want to pick THE WORST FINISHER in each event. That’s right, who will finish last, so you want to get the highest score. The averages will be inverted to continue to show true statistics.

The 1st event is the IRL race in Richmond on Saturday.

The 2nd race is the French Grand Prix on Sunday morning at 8:00 am ET.

The 3rd and final event is the Nextel Cup Race in New Hampshire.

So here is your chance to show off how much you really know about the different series’. It’s easy to pick the cars that are up front every week, but now you are forced to go top the bottom of the pack to find the poorest finishers. Or maybe there is a driver you can’t stand and want to see finish last. Whatever the case, if you’re the ultimate stopper this Trifecta is for you.

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williamwilman
Jun 28, 2007
7:31 PM
something seems fishy with those averages. i will have to look into my numbers again. also same rules apply to picking drivers already chosen. also picks are due before qualifying for the F1 race (8:00amET Saturday)

Tezgm99
Jun 28, 2007
7:52 PM
IRL - Mika Duno
F1 - Adrian Sutil
Cup - Bill Elliot

I've gone with Bill purely for the fact that he's got provisionals so he'll qualify (so I'm guessing you want us to pick from the 43 that make the race)....and for whatever reason, the Wood Brothers car seems to like sliding back during the race.

The Trifecta TAB is not taking bets for photo picking Johnson this weekend :P

Last edited by Tezgm99 on June 28th at 8:02 PM.

photogr
Jun 28, 2007
8:51 PM
Well this is a twist.. Formula 1 Scott Speed is he
in yet??
INDY Kosuke Matsuura HaSo
Papa San..

Cup Kevin Lepage

Funny Tez: I thought about it but Johnson will win this weekend according to the Lowes cheat sheet..

Hey Tez here is a insider tip.. Derick Cope. he always seems to be able to qualify but when the green flag drops in the race he pulls into the garage for the day..

Wait aminute.. I think I am going to chage my picks

Last edited by photogr on June 29th at 2:27 PM.

Dave_in_Indy
Jun 28, 2007
8:58 PM
Good idea:

IndyCar - Foyt IV
F1 - Liuzzi
Cup - Green

Tezgm99
Jun 28, 2007
8:58 PM
say....does that cheat sheet come with a points deduction, photo? :P

Really? Well you score points for making the field I guess and I can think of less dangerous ways to spend my Sunday afternoon, lol

Last edited by Tezgm99 on June 28th at 9:04 PM.

Dave_in_Indy
Jun 29, 2007
2:18 AM
JJD - A challenge.

Just to make the Trifecta Standings a little more interesting, ... try picking a high performing team/driver you think will crash-out early in one of the races. Or step the risk/reward equation up even higher and do it for all three races. If you hit on this pick - you'll score pretty well points wise, but incredibly well prestige wise (vs. those of us going with the safer low performer picks - these guys will likely not surprise us with a top three or even a top 10 finish).

Come on ... this is getting hopeless. (Photog, you too, O.K.?)

williamwilman
Jun 29, 2007
5:10 AM
they have to make the race photogr. if they don't you get no points

JayJayDean
Jun 29, 2007
6:04 AM
Hmmm. Will I accept Dave's challenge? Of course I will.

F1 - Lewis Hamilton

Seven out of seven on the podium...he can't keep that up, right? The McLarens have also avoided mechanical failure all season. They have to hit a bad patch at some point.

IRL - Tony Kanaan

Has two straight DNF-accidents at Richmond. Sorry, TK.

Cup - Carl Edwards

Five starts at Loudon. One top-10 finish. No DNFs, though, as his worst career Loudon finish is 20th.

There you go. I could legitimately end up with three points this week.

williamwilman
Jun 29, 2007
6:20 AM
wow jj. if you win this weeks trifecta i may have to switch to the group of people who believe that the races are rigged. and i can tell you who the pupet master is too. those are bold predictions.

JayJayDean
Jun 29, 2007
8:30 AM
I'm pretty sure I won't have to worry about anyone copying my picks.

HotfootLori
Jun 29, 2007
12:43 PM
The worst finisher . . . hmph . . . that certainly is a twist. But - if I do poorly - it is JayJay's fault!

IRL: Danica Patrick
F1: Rubens Barrichello (I love the way his name sounds)
Cup: Ward Burton

/Hotfoot

photogr
Jun 29, 2007
2:04 PM
William: That is exactly my point.. If they don't get in, I don't get points so I could easily come in first as there are no points for them finishing higher..

Tezgm99
Jun 29, 2007
2:12 PM
ahh, but zero is a lower number than one....therefore you'll get the highest possible result for the Cup race, lol

JJD; if you win this weekend, you're taking my spot as leader of the 'Stoppers', mate! Gutsy....that's all I'm saying, good luck though :)

Last edited by Tezgm99 on June 29th at 2:13 PM.

photogr
Jun 29, 2007
2:30 PM
Hey William:: Dale Jarrett did not qualify.. Can I change my driver to one that qualified>?? Kevin Lepage is my new Pick if that is OK.. Just wouldn't feel right to go with Jarrett and he is not in the race..

williamwilman
Jun 29, 2007
7:30 PM
HotfootLori: its great to have you on board. I try to do this every week and your more than welcome to join in on the fun. in fact bring your friends along too.
photogr: no problem to change your pick. picks are not due until the 8:00 tomorrow morning (EST), i am surprised though your not taken jimmie.

HotfootLori
Jun 29, 2007
7:48 PM
Thank you williamwilman. Glad to be on board as well. It seems I don't stand a chance against JJD though. Good luck everyone.

photogr
Jun 29, 2007
7:53 PM
HOT FOOT: JJ IS EASY TO BEAT.. JUST HAVE TO BLOCK HIM.OR IN THIS CASE THIS WEEK END JUST HOPE HIS PICKS ALL WIN WHICH I THNK THEY HAVE A GOOD CHANCE........

photogr
Jun 29, 2007
7:58 PM
Dave: What am I supposed to OK???

slshusker
Jun 29, 2007
8:06 PM
So, how did Dave and 14Falcons end up with negative points? Bad Blogs?

williamwilman
Jun 29, 2007
8:22 PM
slshusker. those are not negatives. it just means that there score wasn't taken into consideration because of problems they had with their picks. i didn't want to disqualify them entirely but to be an official trifecta winner you must abide by the rules.

photogr
Jun 29, 2007
8:56 PM
Sishusker:

We are going by the NSACAR rule book.. HE HE HE ..

Last edited by photogr on June 29th at 8:57 PM.

Dave_in_Indy
Jun 29, 2007
9:15 PM
JayJayDean is the man.

High risk, low reward picks - - that's rolling the dice when in the lead. Although just hitting on one, while not producing huge dividends in trifecta standings, will produce shock and awe here on this blog.

Even if you crash and burn in the standings, ... RESPECT (along with a quiet wish for the crash & burn thing).

Last edited by Dave_in_Indy on June 29th at 9:17 PM.

14Falcons
Jun 29, 2007
11:54 PM
IRL: Simmons
F1 : Sato
NASCAR: Chaffin

I kind of hate this. I like Simmons and Chaffin.

14Falcons
Jun 29, 2007
11:56 PM
Jay Jay,

You got balls. I'll give you that.

Kanaan finished in the back half last year. But he starts second tommorrow.

williamwilman
Jun 30, 2007
4:31 AM
good morning everyone. hope you enjoy today and tomorrow's action. here are my picks

IRL: Sara Fisher
F1: David Coulthard
NextelCup: Robby Gordon

jj. the thing about your hamilton pick. how much car trouble have we seen this with the top6. not much i'd say other than kubica's wild ride in montreal. still with the other 2 anything can happen.

falco. dont get all torn up inside. think about it this way if the 83 wasn't too low chad would be going home. it's already a win for him even if he has trouble. i don't wish ill on anyone but some one does have to finish last. its a part of racing. don't expect this often. just thought it would be a nice way to break jj's strangle hold on the top stop. lol.

Last edited by williamwilman on June 30th at 11:21 AM.

Dave_in_Indy
Jun 30, 2007
5:14 AM
I figure JJD will be focused on the first three turns in France. Fairly high speed, but not sharp affairs - could see some of the fast cars knock each other out right there. Will be interesting if it's Hamilton & Alonso - Alonso gave way in Indy, wonder if his testosterone levels will allow him to give way again if it comes to that in France. Qualifying is already a great event in F1 - should be even more interesting; just to see who will be positioned near Hamilton (and who might be JJD's knight in shining armor - the guy who punts Lewis on Sunday morning). If Hamilton is in the lead after turn three, ... well - it's likely over. But we'll see how he qualifies.

williamwilman
Jun 30, 2007
6:17 AM
of course dave, if hamilton's engine goes south like alonso's just did jj with be smiling like a dog eating #### in tall grass.

14Falcons
Jun 30, 2007
11:02 AM
I heard on TV during qualifying that Chaffin missed the race. Then I saw him listed 43rd on NASCAR.com last night. I was thinking the TV coverage must have made a mistake and that the 49 got in on owners points. But the 83 was low and failed inspection huh? That darn Hendrick....uh...nevermind.

williamwilman
Jun 30, 2007
11:23 AM
falco don't get me started on here too. i put it in a separate peice as to not bore/scare you folks with my spite.

Last edited by williamwilman on June 30th at 11:24 AM.

14Falcons
Jun 30, 2007
11:26 AM
K.

Look forward to reading your post.

photogr
Jun 30, 2007
7:33 PM
Hey TEZ: Looks like you got the first leg of the tri feta. DONO went out early for some reason.. I was snoozing then when I woke up she was out..

williamwilman
Jun 30, 2007
8:19 PM
wow that race was over quick. i thought i'd sit down and catch the last of it after i put my son to sleep and it was on to the victory lane celebration already.

unofficial standings are:
Tezgm99-------19
14Falcons-----18
photogr-------17
williamwilman-16
Dave_in_Indy--13
HotfootLori---6
JayJayDean----4(TK breaks the streak)

and how about dario stinking it up in the race and the standings. nicely done.

photogr
Jun 30, 2007
8:35 PM
Very interesting.. Crikey .. Falcons is ahead of me..Was it me or was this race won in the first few laps...Dario led 214 laps?? Hornish had a bad day..

JayJayDean
Jun 30, 2007
9:43 PM
Buddy Rice deserves a MAJOR shout-out for finishing fifth in that #### Dreyer & Reinbold-car. Danica also ran really well (for her, at Richmond) and finished sixth.

14Falcons
Jun 30, 2007
10:04 PM
Guys, I am amazed tht four of us picked the worst four. We ain't too bad as a group. We got five of the worst seven too. Good job all.

Last edited by 14Falcons on June 30th at 10:05 PM.

14Falcons
Jun 30, 2007
10:08 PM
Jay Jay,

Buddy was running good at Iowa too. He may be pretty good at setting up a car for a short track.

DARIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FRANCHITTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!

Tezgm99
Jul 1, 2007
2:34 AM
man we rock at picking the guys at the back of the field, lol

oh, and Happy Canada Day, Will....hope your weather is quite a bit warmer than it is here, lol

williamwilman
Jul 1, 2007
9:37 AM
standing update

Tezgm99---------36
photogr---------35
Dave_in_Indy----35
14Falcons-------34
williamwilman---29
HotfottLori-----17
JayJayDean-------7
thanks tez and happy canada day to all

EDIT: jayjay is working on the lowest score ever. that would be ironic now wouldn't it

Last edited by williamwilman on July 1st at 10:56 AM.

14Falcons
Jul 1, 2007
12:25 PM
Look how tight that is. Amazing.

Plese do not comment on the F1 race today. I missed it and want to watch a replay tonight.

Is anyone watching this Champ Car Race in the wet? Amazing! Talk about drama.

Last edited by 14Falcons on July 1st at 12:26 PM.

photogr
Jul 1, 2007
5:21 PM
Falcons:

That is tighter than size 4 mini skirt on a size 8 hottie.

HotfootLori
Jul 1, 2007
5:59 PM
photogr - all I can say to your last comment is - O M G!! Y'all do know that I picked the worst finisher for the Cup race right? Awesome.

photogr
Jul 1, 2007
6:05 PM
Yep Hot foot. That was a lucky pick.. I was aghast when Ward dropped out so quickly. Congrats . This will move you up in the standings..

williamwilman
Jul 1, 2007
6:24 PM
i knew i would regret not tossing in a tie breaker for this one.

unofficial results
Tezgm99----------70
photogr----------70
14Falcons--------70
HotfootLori------60
williamwilman----46
Dave_in_Indy-----41(green with the remarkable 6th place finish)
JayJayDean-------20(carl edwards rallies from that brutal pit stop to finish 13th)

it was rather anticlimatic compared to the racing. i thought i would ####e it up a little but i think we'll go back to picking winners. thanks everyone

Last edited by williamwilman on July 1st at 6:26 PM.

14Falcons
Jul 1, 2007
8:18 PM
OMG! That is awesome.

Feel free to discuss the F1. There is no replay I can watch. Or I missed it earlier one.

Oh well, son and I caught eight bullhead cat and one bluegill and moved them to our favorite pond that we are stocking but do not fish. It aught to make one heck of a neighborhood fishing hole for someone elses kids one day.

Dave_in_Indy
Jul 1, 2007
8:52 PM
I showed great "stopper" versatility today. Green finished 6th? Holy @#%! And I was doing so well up to then ... I'm still holding out hope that NASCAR will find that Green's crew had illegal deer whistles on his car (9mm wider than the template for Cup cars allows) & DQ him.

Ah well, fun approach to this weekend's trifecta. Should act like a NASCAR debris caution in terms of reigning in JJD who was threatening to lap the field (except for Photog ... maybe next week, eh?).

JJD deserves bonus negative points for being such a good sport this weekend.

Last edited by Dave_in_Indy on July 1st at 8:55 PM.

photogr
Jul 1, 2007
8:59 PM
Falcons:

Check out formula1.com. they have a good article on the race with pics..

Tezgm99
Jul 2, 2007
12:13 AM
Dave; this was actually the 'JJD caution'. It's very similar to the 'Dale Jr caution' :P

so a 3-way tie....I don't know whether to be happy to be a co-winner, or bad that we're good at picking this, lol

JayJayDean
Jul 2, 2007
8:31 AM
In retrospect, I should've just gambled on the NASCAR race. The F1 and IRL races were way easy to pick the back part of the field, and I couldn't have won even if I'd picked Bowyer/Trulli/Hornish. Ah well.

14Falcons
Jul 2, 2007
1:11 PM
Dave,

Green finished 6th? OMG!

14Falcons
Jul 2, 2007
1:14 PM
photo,

Thanks. I may do that.

Did Rubens get a top ten? Or is the factory Honda still sputtering?

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