Got Milk ? Got 'tude ! Real Attitude Say What ?
by: tophatal
Life Ain't So Sweet Not If You're A Spurs' Fan ........!
Apr 14, 2008 | 10:07AM | report this

This   weekend    I saw   the   San Antonio   Spurs    put   up   such    a  putrid   display against the  Los Angeles  Lakers  that I  thought   I'd   been   watching   a  battalion   of   French   soldiers   in   battle.     Never   mind  that  we're   talking   about  the  reigning     NBA  champions.     The  accolade    itself      no   longer   seems   adept   for this  team.  

LOS ANGELES, CA - APRIL 13:  Lamar Odom #7 of the Los Angeles Lakers puts a shot up against Tim Duncan #21 of the San Antonio Spurs at Staples Center on April 13, 2008 in Los Angeles, California. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. (Photo by Lisa Blumenfeld/Getty Images)

Lamar  Odom  of the  Lakers   gets  to the   basket   while  several   Spurs' defenders  look   on.   The Lakers'   106-85   routing  of  the Spurs   was   a highlight   for the   fans  in  attendance.   picture  courtesy of   nbae/getty  images/ Lisa  Blumenfeld ..........

As   an   avowed  fan  of  the  Spurs   I  never   though  that  I'd  see  a  team    lay   down  and  surrender   with  such   ease.     And   Greg   Popovich   as  the   team's  coach    has   got to be  angered   by    the  display.   Wheres    the  Lakers   after  this    victory  have   got to   be  all   the  more  invigorated   by   the  win.    Not only  that    their   confidence   will   have    grown   immensely.   With   everything    to   play for  and   the  #1  seeding   in  the  Western  Conference   still   up   for  grabs.    It   now  becomes  a  two   horse   race  between   the   Los  Angeles   Lakers   and   the  New  Orleans  Hornets.

LOS ANGELES - APRIL 13:  Kobe Bryant #24 of the Los Angeles Lakers goes up for a shot against Tim Duncan #21 of the San Antonio Spurs during their game at Staples Center on April 13, 2008 in Los Angeles, California.  NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and/or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2008 NBAE (Photo by Andrew D. Bernstein/NBAE via Getty Images)

Kobe  Bryant    gets   past    Tim   Duncan    and   applies a   layup   in  the  process  of scoring .    picture    courtesy of  nbae/getty  images/ Andrew  D  Bernstein  ...........

San  Antonio  at  this    point  are   out  of  the   hunt  for  the   #  1  seeding   as it's  mathematically    impossible  for them   to   obtain  it  without   both  teams  ahead   of them   imploding.   And    judging   by   the  way  that  both  are    playing  at  present  that's   unlikely    to happen.     The Spurs   for  their   part   placed  themselves    in  this    mess  with  the  apparent  lack  of  inconsistent    play   down  the   sretch.  Certainly   not   something  that   you'd   expect   of   a  Popovich   coached    team.   Normally    you'd  see  a  team    that's  disciplined   and    executing   well    on  both  ends  of the  floor.  Somehow  as of  late  this   hasn't  been  the  case   with  this   team.   They've  become    lethargic  and    inefficient. 

LOS ANGELES - APRIL 13:  Tony Parker #9 of the San Antonio Spurs looks on from the bench during the fourth quarter of the game against the Los Angeles Lakers at Staples Center on April 13, 2008 in Los Angeles, California.  NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and/or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2008 NBAE (Photo by Noah Graham/NBAE via Getty Images)

A somewhat   bewildered   Tony Parker  looks  on  as  his  team    succumbs  to the  Lakers  in  the  final   moments  of  the  fourth   quarter   in  the  game  played  at  the  Staples  Center.    picture  courtesy of   nbae/getty  images/ Noah  Graham  ..........

The Spurs'   triunmvirate  of    Tim  Duncan   ,  Manu  Ginobli  and   Tony   Parker    so   much   a  part   of   last  season's   win   over  the  Cleveland  Cavaliers  in the  Finals   have   been   less  than   stellar this   season.    Parker    coming    of   a   prolonged    injury     has   yet  returned    to   form.   Duncan    for    his    part    ever   remaining      consistent   hasn't taken  this    team   on  his   shoulders   and   willed   it    to   win.    Ginobli   though    for   his  part    has   shown   us      flashes    of his    genius   and  when   coming  off  the  bench    he's   all   too   often  provided   the  spark     needed  to   ingite  the  team.   But  then   once   having   performed    up  to   expectation  they    then   mire  themselves    back    to the   depths   of   mediocrity.     It  has   been   this     that's  made   many  of  the  fans  incensed and   somewhat    bewildered.   

LOS ANGELES - APRIL 13:  Tim Duncan #21 of the San Antonio Spurs posts up against Pau Gasol #16 of the Los Angeles Lakers during their game at Staples Center on April 13, 2008 in Los Angeles, California.  NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and/or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2008 NBAE (Photo by Noah Graham/NBAE via Getty Images)

Tim  Duncan   goes  up  against   Pau  Gasol  of  the  Los  Angeles   Lakers.     picture  courtesy  of   nbae/getty images/Noah  Graham  .............

 This  season  the  Western  Conference   has  become   so  contentious and   fractured    that  it's   been   akin   to   watching   a   prolonged     battle  between    several   adversaries     that  are   equally  adept  as  one   another.  Much  has   been   made   of  the  trades   that've   gone   on  across   the   team as  several  opf  the  teams   in  question   immediately  became   better   almost  overnight.   The  Spurs    weren't   part   of   the  contretemps  that took   place  as they  basically stayed   pat  in  terms  of   roster    movement.   Their   one    acquiree  was   Damon  Stoudemire    of   whom   it  can  be  said  that    his   best   days  are  indeed   behind   him  and    not   ahead   of  him.  As    a  backup    to Parker    he's   shown   nothing   of  the  adeptness  and  clarity   that   we   know   Parker    is   capable  of.  It  was   like   obtaining    a  mule   to     replace   a   prized     race    horse.   You    know  that   the  mule    may  well  be  hard  working   but    he  wouldn't   be   able  to  meet  all  of  your  expectations   when   called    upon. 

LOS ANGELES - APRIL 13:  Kobe Bryant #24 and Pau Gasol #16 of the Los Angeles Hug each other during their game against the San Antonio Spurs at Staples Center on April 13, 2008 in Los Angeles, California.  NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and/or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2008 NBAE (Photo by Noah Graham/NBAE via Getty Images)

Teammates   Pau   Gasol  and   Kobe   Bryant   hug  each  other   after their    win  against the  San  Antonio   Spurs    infront  of   an   appreciative    home crowd.  Also   pictured  is teammate   Luke  Walton.   picture  courtesy   of  nbae/getty images/Noah Graham  .....

For the  Spurs  (54-25)   now    will   be  the   time    for  them    to  prove  themselves.  With   their   final  three  games  left    in  the  regular  season   it  is encumbent   upon  them   to    find   themselves  back   in   a  groove.   Their  upcoming   game    against  the  Sacramento  Kings'll   prove  whether   not    they've    got   the   intestinal   fortitude  to  acquit  themselves  well.    With  the   postseason    coming   up    they  can   ill   afford   to    be   playing   so    inconsistently.     And   they'd  be    foolhardy   to  underestimate    whoever  they'll  face   in  the   opening    rounds  of  the    playoffs.  Such   is    the   contentious  of the  division  where    the  margin   of  error   can't  be    tolerated   if     you're   intentions  are  to   win  a  championship.   Over  the  years   we've    seen   how  adept   this   franchise    can   be   when   facing   certain  types  of  adversity but   this    year   has   been   a  year    like   no   other.   We've   seen   the    ascension   of  the  Hornets    the   re-emergence   of the  Lakers     ,  the   Suns    and  Mavericks   remaining   dangerous  as  ever.   And    in  the  Denver   Nuggets    we  may  well     be  seeing   a   team  that's    finally   turned   the  corner  and  that's   willing   to  believe   that   anything   is   possible.

LOS ANGELES - APRIL 13:  Tony Parker #9 of the San Antonio Spurs shoots against Kobe Bryant #24 of the Los Angeles Lakers at Staples Center on April 13, 2008 in Los Angeles, California.  NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and/or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2008 NBAE (Photo by Noah Graham/NBAE via Getty Images)

Tony Parker  of    the   Spurs   attempts  to   shoot   over  the    outstretched   arms   of     Kobe   Bryant.    picture   courtesy  of   nbae/getty  images/Noah  Graham  ........

The   fans   in   San  Antonio   however   have    got    to    be  feeling  somewhat  strange   seeing  the  team   struggle  the  way   that   they've   been    doing  as   of   late.   I  know    living   here   in   Central  Florida  and     supporting   the   team   from  afar  I'm   perplexed as  to  the  dilemma  that    the   team   now    finds   itself  in.   We  may   well   be  still    considered  one   of  the  favorites    within   the  conference  to  win  it  all.    But  at this     juncture    I'd     certainly   place  a   caveat  in  there .  As with    each    passing    game   our  tenure   on    the   championship    seems   to   fading   all   too   quickly   for   my  own    liking.     It   feels   great    when   you're   noted   as  being  a  champion    when   you're  dethroned    that   feeling    just   hits   you   in  the  pit   of  your   stomach    when   you're  told  that  you're    not.    And that's     a  feeling  that   none   of   us   really    likes     to hear   when   someone   says   that  about     the  team    you    support.

tophatal  ..............

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lakersfan4life
Apr 14, 2008
11:45 AM
Good read. At Halftime I was thinking, man this going to go down to the wire. I definetly did not expect the Lakers to dominate the 2nd half like they did. I'm 50 yrs old and went to my first Lakers game at the age of 9 in 1967. I saw Elgin Baylor and Jerry West play and was hooked for life. And I definetly understand how you feel about your team being on top one minute then down the next. I've seen the Lakers thru good times and bad.
And I take offense when some people throw out the Bandwagon comments,lol. I'm a diehard Lakers fan but more importantly I love the NBA. Again a good read. Dont count the Spurs out just yet tho. They are a great team.

ReverendRhythm
Apr 14, 2008
11:49 AM
I still have faith that the Spurs are of such championship caliber that they will be able to flip the switch when need be. But they certainly haven't kept up with the Joneses in the West with all the trades.

The Lakers look impressive, but regardless, the Spurs will be a tough out.

lakersfan4life
Apr 14, 2008
11:52 AM
No doubt. Anyone who counts out the Spurs could be in for a rude awakening. One game wont dictate the outcome of the season.

BleedPRPL&GLD
Apr 14, 2008
11:59 AM
top,
Nice post. (great pictures btw...)
Keep in mind your boys were minus Manu, that's a HUGE factor. They hung tough in the first half...nothing to be ashamed of. The thing to be ashamed of is Bowen. I've pretty much left him alone, not necessarily agreeing with people that called him "dirty".
I am an advocate of playing defense...it is THE most under-valued aspect of the game (by fans). Coaches, GM's and those who actually PLAY the game appreciate it much more than the average Joe-six pack sports fan.
My problem was his contesting the blatant hack on Luke yesterday...
How in the world did he not just turn and walk away? Replays were abundantly clear on his guilt. Yet he chose to argue with the ref, claiming his innocence. I'm starting to believe the hype regarding Bruce's less than honerable tactics...where's that much smoke, there must be fire. Does he not realize there are cameras EVERYWHERE? Spike Lee claimed to have no less than 19 focused on Kobe alone. The extent to which today's atheletes are in denial of guilt (in ANY form is disheartening, to say the least) I guess we can thank Slick Willy for the acceptance of lying. But NBA players in particular RARELY profess thier fouls. Ronny and Fish are exceptions to the rule in my opinion. They regularly raise their hands to acknowledge the ref. More players should do this. It's detrimental to the game and fuels the ire of the home crowd fans. I'm not saying the officials are always right...far from it. I'm merely requesting that players...so called PROFESSIONALS...take responsibility for their actions.

Last edited by BleedPRPL&GLD on April 14th at 12:00 PM.

BleedPRPL&GLD
Apr 14, 2008
12:07 PM
The Spurs are proven winners, they'll be there in the end.
I consider them the biggest threat in the West to my Lakers.

Keep the faith man, IMHO...they are the second best franchise in the league. (#1 at drafting)


LAKERS IN JUNE.

tophatal
Apr 14, 2008
12:36 PM
BleedPRPL&GLD
I'd rather see the team put up an attempt at competing than seeing 'em throw in the towel . This isn't France where they wave the white flag at the first sign of trouble. And even without Ginobli that oughtn't to be an excuse.
I've faith that they can right the ship but if not then I'll have to raise the white flag once and for all , surround the retreat and then surrender as that's how bad they looked yesterday. Hell I for one never expected this of a Popovich coached team.


tophatal ............

tophatal
Apr 14, 2008
12:41 PM
lakersfan4life
I watched the game and was perpelexed as to how bad we were playing. Little did I realize that they'd have sunk to new lows at this juncture . It got so bad that they'd begun to stink up the joint . I sincerely doubt the Lakers' fans were believing what they were seeing. It might've been an aberration to 'em at first but then it just continued to get worse.
I'm not quite yet ready to wave a white flag but I think I ought to go out and buy an 8' flagpole just in case the mayhem continues.


tophatal ............

tophatal
Apr 14, 2008
12:49 PM
Reverend Rhythm
My faith is being severely tested by this team at present. And my nerves just can't take it anymore. You can count the number of times you've seen a Popovich coached team on one hand implode like this. But when it happens it's at the most
inopportune
of times. If that should happen in the playoffs in all likelihood it could signal their death knell .


tophatal ........

lakersfan4life
Apr 14, 2008
1:13 PM
lol...Hold off on the flagpole tophatal. They arent done yet. Keep the faith brother. At any rate, its going to be one of the best playoffs in alot of years.

ATTITUDE70
Apr 14, 2008
3:45 PM
Tophatal...good article and nice pics! The Spurs should have made a move in free agency like their counterparts in the west...but they will be ok. Seasoned veterans never go down easily!

Hey, I'd rather have your misery of wondering if my team will return to the finals then have mine. As a Magic fan I'm just happy to see a 50 win season! First one since '95...good luck!

nwhatdheck
Apr 14, 2008
4:33 PM
Nice post top!..

I thought all along that this Spurs team is incapable of inefficiency, I thought that they are bunch of robot who could deliver win in any given night. Alas they are mortals too.

There is no invincibility in this world... sir.

We've seen great men fall, the great Napoleon has his waterloo, Mark Anthony has his cleopatra and Samson had his delilah. We also have seen weaknesses on basketball greats like Chamberlain, Russell, Abdul-Jabbar, Magic, Bird and Jordan.

So you see sir, this team are human beings... possesses infirmities like any one of us. The team still not in a tight situation and i know in due time they will rise to the occasion and prove to one and all... they are still a force to reckon with in the NBA.

BillyHoyle
Apr 14, 2008
7:11 PM
my insider sources are telling me that david stern is going to reinstate tim donaghy for the playoff stretch, so you needn't worry.

craigy_f
Apr 14, 2008
8:25 PM
TH
At least one team in LA isn't completely fu_cking shiite!
Getting beat by a steaming pile of Toronto FC.
Great start to the season by LA Beckovan RG!

tophatal
Apr 14, 2008
10:04 PM
nwhatdheck
I think that the Spurs are more than capable of acquitting themselves well. But with the Western Conference being so contentious there's no real room for any great margin of error. I want to see 'em playing a consistent brand of basketball going into the playoffs. Rather than limping into it. They can ill afford to replicate that form in the playoffs or else they'll be one and done !
But it'll now be dependent upon 'Pop' instilling some discipline within their ranks. As no one expects a Popovich coached team to be playing so erratically.


tophatal ........

tophatal
Apr 14, 2008
10:46 PM
craigy_f
I think you know my feelings when it comes to Beckham.... overhyped , overpaid and not particularly intelligent . And even with Posh on the end of his arm it won't equate to anything much. As long as he's here stealing money blind from the Galaxy I for won't really give a damn !
The next thing you'll be hearing is that his pal Tom Cruise'll want to play him in a movie.

tophatal .............


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tophatal
Apr 14, 2008
11:09 PM
victoria_beckham


craigy_f
And this is what the fuss is all about ?


tophatal ...........


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nba is the worst
Apr 15, 2008
5:44 AM
Hi tophatal,

Spurs played a little better last night, but were more fortunate than the Hornets in that Ron Artest didn't play.

Duncan shooting 6-7 was much improved over the 6-19 he put up against the Lakers! Frenchman Tony played great, 32 pts 11 assists. They still needed a last-second 3-pointer by the Kings to come off rhe rim at the end.

With regard to your comments on consistency, the Spurs last game is against the west's most consistent at the end of the season, the Utah Jazz.

With this win, I think you avoided the Jazz in the playoffs(?)

Suns won handily in SA last time, though. Unlike the rest of the Spurs proppers above, I'm saying they are clearly in decline as you have documented, and will be out in the 1st or 2nd round (should be 1st round, but the Suns coach is mentally challenged).

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CurlyMo
Apr 15, 2008
6:37 AM
The Lakers certainly look like the team to beat. But you cannot count out the Spurs. Remember they started out as the #3 seed last season and won it all.

tophatal
Apr 15, 2008
10:38 AM
Curly Mo
What's been niggling me though is their inconsistency. And what people tend to have
forgotten is that this year has been even more contentious than last year. In terms of the team's play of much of the regular season. Last year we knew who the really good teams where . And this years because of the trades that've taken place the landscape has immediately become more varied and rampant in terms of quality teams.
The Spurs are good enough to win it all. But so too are five or six other teams within the Conference.


tophatal ............

tophatal
Apr 15, 2008
10:42 AM
nbaistheworst
The legs on Duncan are no longer what they once were. But his basketball mind is unequalled within the game. And that's where he's got an advantage over others of his era. It'll now be down to the likes of Manu and Parker to guide this team over the next few months as the playoffs begin. Timmy's still go a great role to play in all of this. As he's the team's spiritual leader as well as its lynchpin.


tophatal ...........


Last edited by tophatal on April 15th at 10:43 AM.

nba is the worst
Apr 15, 2008
3:11 PM
tophatal,

I think you said what the key factor is, this year the level of competition is notably higher, and if anything the Spurs aren't as good as last year.

Unlucky for them to get the revenge-minded Suns in the 1st round.

ReverendRhythm says the Spurs will be able to "flip the switch and suddenly play better. I say they can't find the switch anymore!

Bye bye, Spurs!

tophatal
Apr 15, 2008
9:02 PM
nbaistheworst
The switch is there but it's their overall frame of mind that's all askew . This team is playing like it's sleepwalking instead of having the mindset that they need to be on top of their game. If they carry on this way then you're right they'll be one and done . This isn't what I'd have expected from a Popovich coached team at this time of the year. Even if the conference has become more contentious that's still no excuse not to have the players prepared to play.


tophatal ...........

JCScheffres
Apr 24, 2008
8:21 PM
Uhhhg, I just hate the Spurs. I can't say they don't deserve to be where they are, they are such a great team with some awesome players. I fall into that category of people--and I can't quite explain why--who is just bored watching them play. I'd like to see Denver come out of the West (a huge upset) but I'd be ok if it was the Lakers too. Do you think that Ginobli should be a starter?

rampantfanatic
Apr 24, 2008
11:33 PM
JCScheffres
Things now seem to be on the up and up for the Spurs. So I won't be dumping 'em anytime soon. They've now got the better of the Suns. And though the series now moves on to Phoenix. Does anyone really now think that Suns can actually win the series outright by erasing an 0-2 deficit ?

rampant'

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Born in the UK of Caribbean parentage and having lived in the US for the last 15 years. A keen martial artist (Black Belt 2nd degree in karate. I also practice savate , tae - kwondo ) College Grad BA's in Econ and Int' Fin. Served five years in the British military. I've gotten use to the American way of life and the language. The women on the other hand, that's something else ! Sports is my great passion along with music and the movies. However I feel that having resided here for all this time , I still somewhat miss the land of my birth. That being said I 'love this great country and all that it has afforded me' An avid Pats and Spurs' fan. Soccer Chelsea , tophatal.....
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