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Would Geno Auriemma Be Fired For Pokey's Crimes?
Mar 09, 2007 | 9:47AM | report this

Pokey Chapman, LSU’s women’s basketball coach, has suddenly resigned.  Originally she was going to finish out the season, but now she is done for good.  The rumor mill is in full swing and the word on the street is that Pokey was intimate with some of her players.  Putting “####” bashing aside for a minute, I have two problems with this whole scenario.

One, coaches and players should not be sexually intimate be it heterosexually or homosexually.  If this were a professor at the college what would happen to him? Would there be outrage among his peers or from the university? 

Second, if this had been U Conn’s coach, Geno Auriemma, sleeping with his players I think he would be fired and their would be outrage from a vast array of organizations including NOW.  But because this involves a relationship between two women, I believe the GLAD group will take up for her. I also think that you will hear very little about this from the university. 

In my opinion, instead of sweeping this under the rug, LSU should treat this situation the same way they would if it was a male coach sleeping or harassing his secretary.  And make no mistake, this could fall into a sexual harassment situation.  A coach has power of his or her players.  The new definitions of sexual harassment have opened up a whole new arena for lawsuits. 

Remember a few years back when Bob Knight was accused of some sexual harassment and let’s not forget Clem Haskins at University of Minnesota.  Haskins was fired.  LSU does not need a parent of one of these players suing them for misconduct.  They need to fire Pokey Chapman and do so immediately.  Don’t think for one minute that AD Skip Bertman does not already know what has happened.

There is a double standard when men do something wrong with the opposite sex and I for one think it is unfair.  My mom always taught me, “If it’s good for the goose, it’s good for the gander.”  Treat this situation the same.   

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cuziffer
Mar 9, 2007
10:06 AM
i wonder if LSU gave her the option to resign rather than face public humiliation and all the questions surrounding her being fired.

you're absolutely right. if it was a male coach having intimate contact with female players, there would be an uproar over it, and he'd be fired and perhaps never work again, whether it was consensual or not.

it's similar to when a male teacher is caught sleeping with, or having inappropriate contact with a female in high school. he faces criminal charges, get fired, etc. but when a female teacher does the same with a male student, it usually goes away without any charges, although she likely would lose her job (which isnt that big of a deal, considering she'd get on the talk show circuit and become a celebrity).

1steelerfan1
Mar 9, 2007
10:13 AM
They'll probably make a hero out of her. There of course will be a best-selling book followed by a heart-felt movie about the complexities of modern love. Crazy world isn't it

kjk77
Mar 9, 2007
10:28 AM
Look at all of the female teachers who have gotten off of the hook and their male counterparts who have been put in prison. It is not right that she get special treatment, but thay have given it to her. There should be no interaction period. Regardless of gender. There are boundries between coach/player or techer/student and they need to be strictly adheared to.

kjk77
Mar 9, 2007
10:33 AM
However, wasn't this a past player and not a current one. You can't fire some now for that and that's why I think they asked her to resign.

ReverendRhythm
Mar 9, 2007
10:36 AM
But was it sexual harassment or were they having an affair? And is there a difference between the two?

cuziffer
Mar 9, 2007
10:43 AM
kjk- i think when this incident happened, the player was part of the team. past or present, i dont think that should matter.

that's like saying a professor shouldnt be held accountable for a relationship he had with a student 10 years ago. most (if not all) universities have strict policies against relationships by faculty or other employees and students. it was wrong when it happened, and not holding them accountable only makes them think it's ok to do it again.

crookdnose
Mar 9, 2007
10:47 AM
If Geno could find a UConn player worth losing his job over, he has my blessings to lay down the Auriemma.

rampantfanatic
Mar 9, 2007
12:26 PM
Socal ...... When I first heard of the story I was unsure what to think. But I do believe that Chapman should've known what this would've led to ! This isn't something that you can carry on clandestinely without someone finding out. More's to the fact that even if GLAAD does take up on her behalf what can they do really do about it ? More likely than not there's something in her contract that covers her behavior in terms of a morality clause.

rampant/tophatal...... !

Last edited by rampantfanatic on March 9th at 12:27 PM.

LSUfan
Mar 9, 2007
1:01 PM
Couldn't agree with ya more Socal. Sexual harassment works both ways, or at least it should. Pokey is gone, no longer at LSU. I will listen to the local sports radio to see if anything new comes of this story and report back to you or on my blog if anything new comes up.

MeanDovine
Mar 9, 2007
1:27 PM
If the rumors are true, then she should go. Right is right and wrong is wrong, regardless of one's sexual preference.

With all the liberal #### on the market today, couldn't she simply go sit at a bar?

The_Return_of_Manrub
Mar 9, 2007
2:29 PM
Having sex with your coach is like having sex with your mother or father, and vice versa. Pokey's actions were di####able, and she deserved to get fired. The way things went down makes me feel that, had she not resigned, she would've been fired anyway. If GLAAD wants to take up her cause, then let them do it, but it doesn't change the fact that sexual contact between a player and a coach is never appropriate behavior.

socalsportsfan
Mar 9, 2007
3:19 PM
Thanks for all the comments guys. As for Pokey, my understanding is she has not been fired yet, but she resigned. There is a vast difference in how one is perceived in the market place although the end result is she is gone.

As for sexual harassment vs concensual sex, in the work place and in a school setting the coach/doctor/supervisor has an added responsibility because the subordinate can feel pressure to perform. This can be called sexual harassment should the player ever come out and say I felt I had to have sex in order to start on the team or to keep my scholarship.

edclinch
Mar 10, 2007
8:16 AM
With a name like Pokey that is all I need to know...

I've been reading Frank McCourt lately...

Donna
Mar 19, 2007
9:43 PM
No one knows what really happened. Until we do, it's all just speculation.

socalsportsfan
Mar 20, 2007
9:39 PM
True Donna, but we know the Admin at LSU isn't begging for her to stay.

Ed, an apt name for sure.

slshusker
Mar 27, 2007
8:42 PM
Look for Pokey to be on Oprah soon. No, not ON Oprah, but on the show.

Next on the Oxygen Network is a love story of basketball proportions.

Sure Pokey(love the name) was given the option to resign. The embarrassment is high and this story worn't be forgotten, by men anyway.

rampantfanatic
Mar 27, 2007
9:22 PM
Chapman's own stupidity brought about her demise. It's not as if she didn't know what she was doing. Besides is she that naive to think that word wouldn't have 'gotten around. Let's put it this way there's a way one ought to conduct one's self when teaching , coacing or out in public. And then there's a way you conduct yourself in the privacy of your own home. Most people know which is appropriate for them. Unfortunately for Chapman she thought differently. For Auriemma it wouldn't and shouldn't be any different. Although some of us males would probably be admiring him if were nailin' one of his female basketball students. But consider this if it were your sister or niece would you still be smiling knowing what went on ?

rampant/tophatal .......

slshusker
Mar 27, 2007
10:03 PM
Just thinking about this gives me the "Gee Willie Nelsons."

If this had been a male coach with male players, it'd get more airplay than this Anna Nicole stuff.
Yuck!

hpangloss
Apr 2, 2007
1:54 PM
Well, I am assuming you are a man. Men having sexual relations with their female students or team players goes on every day - so much, in fact, that we don't hear about even a quarter of the cases.

It happened at my middle and high schools, both with classroom teachers and coaches, and also at my university. Believe me, people knew, but because it was these cases involved men as the perpetrators, it was accepted and considered even natural. Of course, people would say, "It is the woman's choice; she knows what she is doing."

I agree that this kind of behavior is unacceptable no matter who is involved, be it a #### or heterosexual relationship. It is just unhealthy and inappropriate.

As a woman, I know that men are all too blind to how often this goes on. Believe me, the majority of the time it is the man who is in the position of power.

Of course we are going to hear about this case with Pokey; lesbians are exciting and seldom talked about in the news. As far as the men sleeping with their female students go, well, this happens every day. It's old hat. We can't keep up with the incidents.

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