The Thinking Man's Rant
by: rjm2179
Does anyone even watch ESPN's College Gameday?
Dec 26, 2007 | 6:43PM | report this

With a title like College Gameday, you would think this program was all about college football.  Sorry to disappoint you, but it’s not!  After all, how, in a span of two hours can you talk about every single college game being played on a given Saturday afternoon?  

Well, you can’t, you just can’t.  So, wouldn’t the next best thing be to talk about the Top 25 teams in Division 1A?  Probably, but while that seems a more likely scenario, that sad truth is that College Gameday doesn’t even come close to mentioning all teams in the Top 25 on a given Saturday!  It’s more like America’s most irrelevant reality show.

In reality, College Gameday is a device ESPN employs to entice the viewer into watching the programming on its various channels (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPN Classic, and ABC).

The show usually begins with a discussion of pertinent storylines of the week, and heads into some critique on the number 1 or number 2 teams, or a story on a top five match-up.  Beyond that, the show devolves into a conference by conference breakdown of alleged top 25 action.

The first conference up for discussion is typically the SEC, mainly for the effect of influencing the viewer that the SEC is indeed the number 1 conference in college football and that pound-for-pound, the SEC is beyond par of the other BCS conferences.  Watch closely as Kirk Herbstreit mugs the camera, ever the pretty-boy trying to kiss up to all the SEC fans watching this self-fulfilling prophecy.  Herbie knows if you say something you believe to be true enough times, it really becomes the truth.  What’s real subliminal here is that all SEC schools get a mention during this time, not just the ones in the top 25, again furthering the belief that the SEC is indeed the best.

The diatribes over the games are usually superficial and the crew always gets in a mention of the old ball coach or some SEC candidate for the Heisman or Outland trophies.

Next up is the ACC, where the discussion centers on Miami, Florida State, and Virginia Tech.  The boys at ESPN have to discuss these teams, as ESPN these three programs on the college football map.  Think about it, before ESPN, who ever heard of the Hurricanes, Seminoles, or Hokies?  What the heck is a Hokie anyway?  Some mention may or may not be made about the remaining teams in the conference, especially when it’s near season’s end and they start talking about the ACC-Coastal division or the ACC-whatever division.

About now, its time for some kind of feel good story about a player or team (USF football players getting Mohawk haircuts), or talk about some 1AA action like Yale-Harvard or something.  Just to lighten things up after all this serious discussion about the SEC and ACC.

From there, the guys talk up the Big East and Big 10, where it’s all about Ohio State and Michigan.  In the Big East, USF, Cincinnati, UCONN, and Rutgers seemed to be the big stories this year, with Louisville dropping off the map faster than you can say Brian Brohm!  About this time, Herbstreit starts looking constipated as he tries to remain impartial when talking about the Buckeyes and Wolverines.  Wisconsin and Penn State may also get a mention, but the talk usually attempts to further their perpetual myth that the Big 10 is down this year.

After a commercial, the boys head off to the Big XII to talk up Oklahoma, Texas, and Nebraska.  K-State may get a mention (now that they’re not so good, they hardly ever do), but this year Kansas and Missouri got some air time, if only to talk about the Jayhawk’s weak schedule, Mizzou’s inability to beat OU, as well as Gary Pinkel’s supposed position on the hot-seat, Mangino’s weight problem, or the lack of stature of Chase Daniel and the KU quarterback.

Another feel good story follows something like the story of Indiana’s late coach Terry Hoeppner’s wife’s efforts to encourage the Hoosiers team this year, or Oregon State’s Mike Cavanaugh’s wife who received a kidney from a fellow assistant coach.  The PAC 10 is up next, where the story is all about USC, maybe UCLA, and if they’re playing good, Oregon, California, and Arizona State.  None of the other schools get mentioned, not even when the talk centers on becoming bowl eligible.  The PAC 10 segment is typically the shortest of all, and always seems as if they’ve been shortchanged, again proving that East Coast media bias is alive and well.

By now, time is running short, so non-BCS schools in the Top 25 such as Boise State, BYU, or Hawai’i get nary a mention.  There’s maybe a short blurb on CUSA, the MAC, MWC, and possibly the WAC, but you might miss it if you blink your eyes.  Instead it’s on to Desmond Howard’s comedic piece, where he comes across as if doing things that guys do on the Man Show or MTV’s Jackas.s.   It makes you feel really bad for Desmond, as he’s a Heisman trophy winner who could be used more effectively rather than just for comic relief.

Next, Fowler runs down several big games where Corso and Herbstreit review their picks.  Corso is not afraid to pick against his alma mater, but Herbie is more calculated in that respect.  This year, he munches out of some picks because he is calling the game with Brent Musberger.  The show ends with Corso pulling a mascot’s head out of trunk.

By looking at the personalities involved in this production, one gains an understanding of how truly irrelevant this program really is. 

The host, Chris Fowler, is a graduate of the University of Colorado, a Big XII school.  Fowler prides himself in his ability to appear as if he is impartial, but tosses such soft pitches, that he’s never succeed at slow-pitch!  You would think, being from Colorado, he would do better in talking up western schools by squashing the east coast bias.  Highly unlikely!

Lee Corso (Florida State University -ACC), is the #### Vitale of College Gameday.  You either love him or you hate him.  He’s there solely for the entertainment value.  He’s all about craziness and excitability.  Wouldn’t you be if you had to put on a stupid mascot’s head?  As a former coach, he also brings a coach’s perspective to the show, but Corso had no coaching stints west of the Mississippi.  Another east coast representative.  One plus is that he is not afraid to pick against FSU.  His catchphrase, “Not so fast my friend”, usually uttered to Kirk, though ubiquitous, is a whole lot cooler than Stuart Scott’s silly playground drivel “boo yah!” on SportsCenter.

Kirk Herbstreit, a graduate of The Ohio State University (Big 10) is the all-American pretty-boy talking head whose sole purpose is to bring female viewers to the table.  An SEC brown-noser who is afraid to talk about his alma mater, he typically points out all the flaws with the Michigan program.  Kirk has a true disdain for the PAC 10, WAC, MWC, and Colt Brennan.

The Gameday supporting cast typically delivers half-time and post-game reports and consists of:

Reece Davis, a University of Alabama (SEC), alum who once picked a fight with Hawai’i coach June Jones during the BCS selection special.  Davis was trying to denigrate Colt Brennan by calling him a “system” quarterback, but Coach Jones turned the tables on him and Reece misunderstood everything that Jones said.  Reece came out with egg on his face while also inflaming Mark May and Herbie.  Graduating from the same school that Forrest Gump attended explains it all!

Mark May, who attended Pittsburgh of the Big East, gives an Oscar worthy performance as the angry black man. A former offensive lineman who played in the NFL, he has strong opinions on things and isn’t afraid to mix it up with the rest of the cast, especially with Lou Holtz.  May is another one who doesn’t like non-BCS programs.  His best comments, however, are reserved for those programs such as Southern Mississippi that either fire or force out successful head coaches because they believe they are better than they really are.

Lou Holtz is a former Notre Dame coach and graduate of Kent State University (MAC).  Holtz has a lisp and comes across sounding like Sylvester the Cat. Most people can’t bear to listen to him, but his role is to also give a coach’s perspective and provide someone to be picked on because of Notre Dame.  The farthest west team he’s coached was Arkansas, which is more southern than western.  Holtz provides honest analysis, a silly pep talk, and a fascinating magic trick.  

Desmond Howard, from Michigan of the Big 10, is the other African-American on the show.  A former Heisman trophy winner, Howard isn’t as polished in delivery as Mark May, but come across as eager and honest.  However, the role he’s been given makes him look like a court jester, kind of like Martin Lawrence in Black Knight.    

Lastly, while we’re at it, why not mention a few other Gameday contributors:

Jesse Palmer, former University of Florida (SEC) quarterback who failed miserably in pro ball is the other resident pretty boy charged with luring in the female fans.  Guys will like him because he’s a former player, but he’s really the equivalent of Lisa Guerrero.  He adds no value whatsoever.  Who gave this guy his credibility?  He’s another non-BCS school hater.

Craig James from Southern Methodist University (SWC – now CUSA).  He's famous for calling Jo Pa out on national TV.  He’s now on the Penn State most wanted list.  His brother Chris played baseball for the Cleveland Indians and is the more likeable one.  The “Pony’s” delivery leads one to believe he’s a southern country bumpkin.  He’s another guy with a lack of respect for western schools.

Doug Flutie, another former Heisman trophy winner, attended Boston College (ACC).  Flutie parlayed his 15 minutes of fame into a long career in the CFL and NFL.  His role is to represent the little man (literally), the underdog, and the average Joe.  He usually delivers good analysis, especially about offenses, but always ends up talking about the play with Phelan against Miami.

No wonder after watching Gameday one feels like they’ve watched an SEC recruiting film, let alone know that there’s college football or a BCS conference or two west of the Mississippi!  All of these talking heads (except for the Pony) have spent their time talking east coast football.  No surprise here that the PAC 10 gets no respect!

Recently, Ed Cunningham, who attended the University of Washington and Robert Smith, who played at "The" Ohio State have been in the studio during the pre, halftime, and post-game shows.  Regular contributors to ESPN's College Football Live, Ed and Robert bring credible, balanced, thoughtful and unbiased perspective to the table.  No editorializing here.  In fact, College Football Live appears to be a better program than College Gameday!  Let’s hope these two guys end up permanently replacing Herbie & Palmer.

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dashman68
Dec 27, 2007
3:14 AM
Think about it, before ESPN, who ever heard of the Hurricanes, Seminoles, or Hokies?

Are you serious?

Miami has won 4 Nat. Championships since '83 and Florida State has won 2 since '93. Of course we've heard of them.

I am definitely NOT a fan of Gameday. It is a vehicle to promote ESPN's brand to bring in more $$$. You've read my blogs - you know I HATE the BCS and you know my loathing of Herbstreit, but c'mon...

Why Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas?
In the last 22 years they have accounted for 27% of the Nat. Championships themselves. And Nebraska is mentioned now only to point out their recent demise.

Why OSU and Michigan? Other than Penn St, they are the teams that have dominated the Big Ten in the last decade.

The SEC? The SEC has won 4 of the last 11 NC's (not even including a 13-0 Auburn team ).

Also, in head-to-head matchups over the last decade, the SEC has a winning record against every other conference. It's not just a perception - like it or not - that's just the numbers. They ARE the strongest conference right now; the Big 12 was in the 90's.

Gameday DOES talk a lot about USC on College Gameday, as they should after 2 recent NC and heisman winners. Other than them though, who in the PAC-10 has done anything to speak of?

If you take the teams that you say that you are tired of hearing about - they have won 23 of the last 30 NC's. We are ALL tired of hearing about them.

But unless someone else starts winning - they are all we will hear about for the foreseeable future.

Last edited by dashman68 on December 27th at 3:24 AM.

BUCKEYEZZ
Dec 27, 2007
5:39 AM
College GameDay is nothing but entertainment. Everyone is biased and everyone has an opinion. Gameday makes each guy pick one side or another to argue to pit these guys against each other and get the crowd of wherever they are that week to get fired up. Reading your blog is like sitting next to a buddy of mine while the WWE is on TV and having to listen to him say "thats not real" 47 times. People know that it isnt real but it still has entertainment value to them. It appears that College Gameday isnt as funny or entertaining to you as it is to some people. My advice to you would be to not watch it. Here you are as a man crying about Kirk Herbstreit and Jessie Palmer being put on ESPN as Pretty Boys for women viewers. I guess those 8 billion half naked chicks that have been gracing our tv ads for years really must have gotten you upset also.lol At least Kirk and Jessie were starting QB's at Div 1 Universities, those chicks dont know a d-mn thing about Miller or Bud Lite! C'mon, I mean first it is SEC/East Coast/BCS conference bias and now you are complaining about the looks of the actual men on the show. It is starting to sound a lot like jealousy. Let it go man! You had a decent gripe right up until you went after the looks of the guys on the show.

rjm2179
Dec 27, 2007
6:06 AM
Dashman - This post was written with tongue firmly planted in cheek. It does, however, lay the groundwork for a future post.

You did prove my point about Miami and Florida State, as these two teams were never mentioned in the same breath as Ohio State, Michigan, Oklahoma, Texas, Penn State, Alabama, Nebraska, Notre Dame, or USC prior to 1983. It's like neither team existed on the national scene before that time.

rjm2179
Dec 27, 2007
6:10 AM
Buckeyezz - I only watch Gameday when I want to have a laugh. As you adroitly pointed out, it is just mindless entertainment with no value added.

My point about Herbie and Palmer concerns their credibility. They're not journalists, but simply talking heads full of mindless drivel.

slapNtickle
Dec 27, 2007
7:02 AM
The question I always ask when someone complains (like a baby I might add), about the "talent" on sports talk shows is: You can do better, right?
Cause, you know, you write a blog on Fox, so you are definitely qualified to pontificate about College ball on a national level.....
Also, as pointed out earlier...Its entertainment. Not journalism.

tigerfan1966
Dec 27, 2007
9:10 AM
a bunch of useless drivel. sounds like nothing but jealousy.

clintandjan
Dec 27, 2007
9:19 AM
Not only college pre-game shows but all sports in gereral. They talk to much they go over everything about one hundred times to many. Their all trying to put on a show. Lee Corso makes me want to shoot my television set. I would but it's worth than Lee Corso. They should come on the before the game about 15 minutes before kick off tell us about that paticular game and get on with it. What I've started doing before the games now is watch a movie that brings me up to game time. When they kick off is at 1:00 pm they really mean 1:20. Their is so much talking now that I'm just about at the point of not watching. The people who watch all this pregame stuff are the same guys that stand around th e water cooler talking like they just a a phone conversation with one of the coaches. Like they know them personaly.

GoPurple6933
Dec 27, 2007
9:24 AM
"You did prove my point about Miami and Florida State, as these two teams were never mentioned in the same breath as Ohio State, Michigan, Oklahoma, Texas, Penn State, Alabama, Nebraska, Notre Dame, or USC prior to 1983. It's like neither team existed on the national scene before that time."

SO????? All three of the big Florida schools were relative nobodys in college football at one time, but so what? Since 1980 UF, FSU and Miami have about 9 national titles between them; people who know college football will tend to talk about them. I'm sure in the early 80s there were many fans tired of hearing about how great Alabama or Penn State were; you might say they got their wish. Teams get talked about a lot because they've WON a lot. OU, Texas, Nebraska? They have appeared in five BCS title games since 2000. You'll continue to hear about them, on any network that knows anything about college football. USC? They get all kinds of respect on those shows, to the point that some of the commentators get accused of being USC homers. The MWC or the MAC? They are kind of like the Colorado Rockies in October; even if they are a great story, not many people care enough to watch. The show is what it is; good for some casual entertainment, not to be taken too seriously.

randy882
Dec 27, 2007
9:45 AM
I enjoy college football. I believe ESPN has become a little full of themselves fro their humble beginnings. There is way too much gum flapping. I tire of Lee Corso and Lou Holtz. These guys just need to retire and go enjoy their grandkids. I also believe that there is good football played out west. The SEC is probably the best overall football conference right now, but there is some very good football teams outside of the south. How many football rosters does the state of California support? There is definitely an east coast bias when it comes to college football. Aside from that I have found it absolutely hilarious this year that talk shows did not know what to do without having Notre Dame to talk about this year. ESPN has already began promoting them for next year. Golic thinks his kid is going to save their program. LOL! There my friends is a football program that has been over-rated since the Raghib Ismail left.

wolfwolfwolf
Dec 27, 2007
2:13 PM
herbie has gotten to where he will not say one good thing about osu...mark may must sleep with usc jammies on...for two years its usc usc usc...whats really funny is the CONVICTION in witch these guys said week in and week out who the # 1 team was...thanks for pointing out how these guys hold the sec so high despite sec losing record vs big ten.....its like al gore and global warming..the debate is OVER..no sir let the debate begin

Marty Walker
Dec 27, 2007
2:30 PM
Guy's, it's just TV. Pure, simple, calculated. It does what it is intended to do, lure you into thinking that they are the real attraction. Why else would 30,000 be at Autzen Stadium at 5 in the morning , waiting on the show to start, in the dark and fog. No matter how you spin it, it's the most watched College Football program in America. Is there any othershow?

I'll continue to watch it, and make sure I don't become a full fledged SEC lover. In fact, I love all of College Football and to me there's nothing like it.

You are probably right about everything you've said.

HoosierHusker1
Dec 27, 2007
4:43 PM
ESPN is almost like the Today show on sports. It's all fluff. It's all east coast bias though. It will never change. When every east coast sports fan with a job is in bed by 7 pm Pacific time. So ESPN will never care about anything west of the Missippi. As a born and raised Nebraskan who left home because of the miltary and now have retired in Indiana, it drives me crazy never knowing what's happening in things west of Chicago without going to local websites. No National news is really national, and so it is with sports. So I do what MOST true fans do. Tune in at Kickoff.

ohiobuci
Dec 27, 2007
6:32 PM
ESPN always has been and always will be a BIG JOKE. There so called EXPERTS are far from that. They are BIASED, show FAVORTISM, and try to tell the college football world who should be number one. The best thing for college football is for them to simply GO AWAY!!!!!

BuckAg
Dec 28, 2007
11:33 AM
What do you expect from the Eastern Sports Promotional Network?
This goes beyond CFB, look at Baseball, it's Red Sox, Yankees, over and over and over, occasionally the Mets. In the NBA its the Celtics Celtics Celtics.
In college football it's the Big East, SEC and the ACC.

If you hate ESPN you should love the Big Ten!

The money makes doing business with the Big Ten a necessity, but they don't like it.
On screen, online and in ESPN Magazine the Big Ten has been belittled and ridiculed. Even when logic doesn't exist. This ridicule serves to sooth their anger and it then allows an elevation of the B-East, Sec and ACC.
ESPN hates the Big Ten, because the B10 will not be pushed around by ESPN. They won't schedule home games on Thursday to fill ESPN's needs. By contrast the Big East would schedule a double header on the Ides of March if ESPN asked them to do so! Ohio state actually declined allowing Game Plan on Campus for one game in 2006 (maybe 2005?). And now the B-10 has a competetive Network in partnership with FOX. Out of market ESPN/ABC games cannot be broadcast on ESPN Game Plan or 360.
These things make ESPN extremely upset, "doesn't the Big Ten know who is running CFB"!
So they call out their attack dogs. They went after OSU on the Clarett issues. Being from Youngstown, no one is surprized by what Clarett has done, he did it in high school! And he's in jail now! But Mark May called for Tressel's and the then ADs firing. May gave the criminal from Youngstown all the credibility.
What is ESPN's or Mark May's position on Florida State, who do they want fire

slshusker
Dec 28, 2007
5:01 PM
GameDay runs every hour, on the hour on at least one of the ESPN family of channels.

Unfortunately, they ran it during the AzState/Texas game last night.
It was hilarious to watch Mark May, the jag-o-ff, talk about how ASU would beat Texas.
I loved it.

Lisa H
Dec 28, 2007
5:57 PM
Hey this was pretty much on target. I love college game day, but not for any in-depth analysis...it's just that it's on at 7am, thus beginning college football Saturday. Plus I love to watch Corso pander to the fans when he's ready to don his mascot head. It used to be pretty informative, now it's all fluff, but I still love it. It's unique and creative, and no one else does it but them.

Nice post!

Last edited by Lisa H on December 28th at 6:01 PM.

Lisa H
Dec 28, 2007
5:59 PM
ps..jesse palmer is cute, but he's pretty bad...he called a punt return a kick return etc.....he has zero credibility with me.

april1
Dec 28, 2007
6:31 PM
You seem to be bitter because you cannot face the fact that the guys on ESPN are CORRECT. The SEC rules, and always will.

Go Gators
2006 National BB Champs
2006 National FB Champs
2007 National BB Champs

SKCUBOG
Dec 28, 2007
6:36 PM
april1, Florida ruled. Not the SEC and not this year. Florida has a great program but that doesn't make Kentucky or Arkansas or Auburn or ... any better than mediocre. The rest of the conference needs to quit riding on their coattails.

countryjag
Dec 28, 2007
10:19 PM
At least Gameday is semi-watchable. The worst thing on ESPN is what they have done to Monday Night Football. MNF used to be must see TV. Now it's just a big infomercial for ABC/Disney.

Question for the ages.... How can you axe Joe Theisman and not improve your show?

RoyBigJohnson
Dec 29, 2007
4:28 PM
Lets see if they have the guts to talk about Darren McFadden's other Cadillac. The one (his unemployed stepbrother was driving him around Little Rock in) that was stolen during the fight outside the nightclub last year.

Stop being silly!
Dec 29, 2007
5:06 PM
counrtyjag,
I could not agree more. MNF used to be a staple at our house. Now it's whatever or if nothing else is on. How can you fire Joe T and not improve? I don't have the answer but ESPN has managed it. I am disappointed with what ESPN has become. I remember watching their humble beginnings, now they honestly believe whatever they say is the gospel truth. Their College GameDay has no competition though. I wish Craig James and Lou Holtz would go away.

Rockyman
Dec 29, 2007
7:01 PM
I like College Game Day, but Lee Corso (who I respect) looks like a made up corpse in HD.

CollegeFan
Dec 30, 2007
4:12 PM
College Gameday is the best way to start off a college football saturday. Lee Corso goes over the top sometimes and I wouldn't mind seeing him replaced by Lou Holtz, but Gameday really handles rivalry games well, as well as other big matchups. I don't really care for many of the stories they do. I'd rather that they just talk about games going on that day.

LSURULESOSUBLEAUXS
Dec 31, 2007
3:29 AM
college gameday RULES! HOSER! YOUR JUST A SORRY SACK OF SHHHHITTT! YOUR A RACIST TO! USING "AFRICAN AMERICAN" AS A DESCRIPTION! OF THESE COLORFUL BROADCASTERS! ESPN KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND FOX IS JUST TRYING TO STAY RESPECTABLE! LOOK AT THE ANNOUNCERS FOR THE TITLE GAME! WHO ARE THEY? BRENT MUSBERGER! NOT!

VOL_FAN
Dec 31, 2007
7:13 AM
I USED to like gameday. Now, I agree with your blog...pure fluff. It's probably similar to what happened to MTV. You wont see a music video ever on that channel...just reality fluff, and now we will never get back our old gameday.

MoonDogLeft
Dec 31, 2007
12:42 PM
I didn't know you had a post mentioning Jesse Palmer. Guess we double teamed the guy, huh? He deserves it.

Nice post.

edclinch
Dec 31, 2007
1:05 PM
ESPN started in 1979. Good point.

Nice article.

BYU and others deserve more attention.

rjm2179
Dec 31, 2007
5:10 PM
LSURULESOSUBLEAUXS

At least I have the satisfaction of being able to elocute effectively in English without having to resort to childish & profane threats!

You definitely make all LSU & SEC fans proud!

DezzNutz
Jan 2, 2008
5:42 PM
I feel your pain my man. But it is purely for entertainment value. So do what I do and not even watch it. These guys know, that in a way, ESPN has a monopoly on sports news and they are the only show about CFB...a sport whose "national champion" is just peoples opinion. They feel the power to sway opinion and a few of them get off on it big time. (Mark May)

You are pretty much dead on with each person's bio, and you even added in where they played/coached to reveal their biases. (I dislike Mark May intensely)

Your anger is because CFB fans are so passionate about their teams and hate it when biased idiots, clueless or informed, diss on them...I completely understand.

Personally myself, I hate ESPN on the whole, they all line up like ducks in a row when it comes to most issues, allowing for little debate, which is truly unforgiveable and Al Gore like.

ESPN even ruined MNF, mostly because parent company ABC thought "Desperate Housewives" re-runs were more important than 30 years of tradition. Thusly the team match-ups suffer as does the color commentary, which in reality isnt all that colorful. Jaworski actaully gets along with Corny-hieser, which Thiesmann and myself cant do.
I especially hate it when clueless celebs show-up to talk...thank goodness for TIVO!!!

Have I mentioned how much I dont like Mark May yet? LOL

DezzNutz
Jan 2, 2008
6:07 PM
buckag's quote: "These things make ESPN extremely upset, "doesn't the Big Ten know who is running CFB"!"

Thats priceless, I applaud anything that takes away from ESPN only because its an economic law. Competition is better for everyone, especially for us as fans. I appluad the Big10 network for doing something different. ESPN epitomizes the socialist standard that "Whats good for the goose is good for the gander"

Sorry, but I am sick of the east coast bias that cares little about the world on the west coast, the #### in the south or the "Bible thumping must be mentally retarded to believe in God" people in the middle-west...(EastCoast views here...not mine)

If you notice, your six o'clock news gets their non-local news from their parent network nestled snuggly in the heart of the East Coast bias.

Thats why Fox is so different from other networks, (and so successful)they dont force local affiliates into running news from NY that someone in Topeka could care less about.

rjm2179
Jan 2, 2008
6:48 PM
DezzNutz

Thanks for your comments. I have to agree with you on Fox. Although their pre-game show coverage of the Sugar Bowl left a lot to be desired, I thought Thom Brenneman & Charles Davis did a smash-up job calling the action!

If it had been ESPN covering that game, I'm sure they would have ripped Hawai'i pretty bad for failing to live up to the hype.

Last edited by rjm2179 on January 2nd at 6:49 PM.

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