Well, isn’t THIS a kick in the teeth. This blog, that is. The one I didn’t think I’d be writing. But unfortunately, I have to. This was the year I was certain that the Phoenix Suns would rise to the top. Claim the NBA title that has avoided them like the plague for so long. And if not for a few untimely and unfortunate circumstances, we aren’t having this conversation. Even though the Suns have been one of the league’s most successful, and well-run, franchises, the ultimate goal has eluded them. Until this year, I thought. Which is why this one hurts more than ever. I haven’t been as pumped up for a game of any sort as I was for game six Friday night.
Sure, we could play the “what if” game all day long. What if Steve Nash hadn’t butted heads with Tony Parker late in the first game. What if Bruce Bowen had been suspended for his knee to Nash’s groin in game three. Does Robert Horry plant a hard foul on Nash if Bowen’s already out? Probably not. What if the league decides to fine Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw, but not suspend them? Or suspend Tim Duncan and Bruce Bowen as well for venturing onto the court during play early in the same game? Or what if Suns head coach Mike D’Antoni had played his bench more during the season so he could rely on them when needed? Therein lies the biggest what if of them all.
Phoenix, Arizona has three all-sports radio stations. With virtually every sport imaginable existing in this town, (okay, there aren’t a lot of skiing or dogsled races going on), all three have no problem filling their airwaves with pertinent talk by the hosts and callers, year round. But make no mistake, the Suns own this town. Other than the occasional “breakout” season by ASU’s Sun Devil football team, and the Diamondbacks World Series run in 2001, the Suns are the king of the Phoenix sports scene. Especially since Frank Kush was unceremoniously dumped as ASU’s coach in 1979. Granted, Arizona State has a ton of things going for it right now-baseball, softball, women’s basketball, both men’s and women’s golf, (golf? Did someone say ‘golf’? I’m in!) Where was I now? Oh yeah. Back to the Suns.
The rhetoric over the suspensions following game four has been tossed about to the Nth degree already, so I won’t revisit that again, other than to say that for every “a rule is a rule” statement I heard from the league, I can produce multiple examples where a rule is not a rule. But #### that later. (Speaking of morons, anyone heard from David Stern lately? Okay, that was a cheap shot. At least I didn’t check him into the scorer’s table. Oops, another cheap shot. Horry. Uh, I mean sorry. Uncalled for. Unless you’re Horry, of course. Who said that Nash flopped. Sure he did. Which makes about as much sense as thinking it was smart to “foul” the best free-throw shooter on the court with 18 seconds left.)
This series slipped away from the Suns late in game four. In the fourth quarter, the Suns trailed the big bad Spurs by 11 points, yet somehow found a way to toughen up on D, hit some big shots, and win in San Antonio’s building. That should have been the turning point of the series. It was not, unfortunately. Instead, what we heard for the next two days was talk of the impending decision from the league. Lost was the fact that the Suns did something no one expected them to do. Think about it. Late in that game, many thought the series was over, with San Antonio about to go up three games to one. But it wasn’t. However, the momentum lost between a great Suns win and the game five tipoff was crucial. Not due to the suspensions, mind you, but due to the simple fact that the Suns played Spurs-type basketball in the Spurs’ building at a crucial time, and it was overlooked. The Suns momentum was lost in the non-stop discussions regarding suspensions. The Suns never recovered.
Which brings us to game five. A game that the Suns should have won. If there’s one thing that D’Antoni should have learned in his three-plus seasons running the Suns, it’s that depth is a great thing. Two years ago, Joe Johnson broke his face against the Mavericks. Last year, with no Stoudemire, Kurt Thomas, and a hobbling Raja Bell, the Suns lost again in the conference finals. If these events don’t point out the value o####ood bench, nothing will. Yes coach, you had the horses to win it all this year. Everybody knows that. But apparently your preparation is a little faulty. I’ll give you kudos for even getting to the conference finals last year when no one thought you had a snowball’s chance in hell. And how you didn’t see at that point in time the value of a solid bench is beyond me. I’ll take your top eight against anyone else’s top eight any day of the week. Problem is, you’re allowed twelve. And so are they. Marcus Banks, signed to back up Nash? Seven minutes in the playoffs. Jalen Rose? Nine. Jumaine Jones? Zero. I’m sensing a pattern here. Hopefully you are, too. These three were all off-season acquisitions. And you drafted nobody last year, other than Nate Robinson, who was only done so with the purpose of trading him.
Personally, I think Marcus Banks could’ve slowed down Parker a little bit in certain situations. Rose could’ve provided some experience as game five (and game one, for that matter, with Nash bleeding) wound down. Pat Burke? Now there were some fouls to use on Tim Duncan, who, as we all know, is not a very good free throw shooter. But that would have meant that you would have had to play all of them during the regular season to get something resembling consistency out of them. Something you failed to do, coach.
To be fair, the last quarter of game four showed me that your team can, in fact, play tough defense when needed. The 20 point rout of the Spurs in game two proved to me that your style can and will succeed in the post-season. Whether it succeeds under you or some subsequent coach remains to be seen. The only knock on you that has not been resolved is your short rotation. If I needed proof when I mentioned it before, I don’t think I do anymore. If you had a bench you could count on, whether it’s the fact that they haven’t played enough or are not capable, either one falls on you. You called the shots. And regardless of which it is, you failed miserably.
Many names will be bandied about in the off-season scuttlebutt while trades are mentioned, especially since the Suns already have the 24th and 29th picks in the first round, not to mention possibly picking up the Hawks first round pick if it’s not a top three—something that will be decided tomorrow, during the lottery drawing. And while the temptation will no doubt be great to move a vital player or two, I think that would be a mistake. Nash and Stoudemire are what I would consider untouchable, as is Shawn Marion. Marion’s name will be brought up like it has been the last two years, but dealing him just doesn’t work on so many fronts. Add in Leandro Barbosa and Raja Bell, and you have a strong core with which to move forward. Barbosa had a poor series against San Antonio, but it would be ludicrous to move him at this point. Like Stoudemire, he is only 24 with a tremendous upside. But the fact of the matter is that, after factoring in even a couple signed draft picks, the Suns will be 10 to 12 million over the salary cap, if no other moves are made. And since the NBA regulations state that for every dollar over the cap, a dollar-for-dollar luxury tax must be paid to the league. (To improve the quality of officiating, I can only speculate. But, hey, a rule's a rule, right?). Suns owner Robert Sarver has stated that he would not be opposed to paying it if the team is title-worthy. Unfortunately, for the third straight year, a case could be made that we still don’t know if they are or not. But the bottom line is that a significant move or two could be made, and such moves should not come as much of a surprise.
Speaking of Stoudemire, I am aware that he has gotten a lot of flak for leaving the bench area and therefore inviting the decision by the league to suspend him. I understand that. He also played in all 82 games this season after recovering from surgeries on both knees, one a microfracture, and being named All-NBA first team. Like most fans, I don’t know a lot about the microfracture procedure, other than it entails drilling holes in the leg bones near the knee and running ligaments through them, while encouraging them to grow and adhere. At any rate, Stoudemire showed a passion for the game this season. He changed his number from 32 to 1, to remind him of his quest to be the best. He got a new contract shortly before last season, and shortly before it was learned that he would need the major surgery. It’s hard to say that microfracture surgery could ever be a good thing, but he made it as good as can be expected. While he was in the early recovery stages, and not yet able to do a lot of running and conditioning, he worked on his mid-range jumper and his free throws. And it showed. I don’t think anyone could accuse him of playing simply to pick up a paycheck. Yes, he needs to show a little more maturity on the court. But I’ll still take him. He’s what is referred to as a keeper. Thirty-eight points in the game six loss. Tell me his absence didn't make a difference in game five.
Looking at the contract situation of various Suns, it appears the following will not be back: Sean Marks. Unrestricted free agent. Played in three games. ‘Nuff said. Jumaine Jones. Unrestricted free agent. Played in 18 games. Which matches the number of games he was inactive to close out the season. Probably could have helped more, had he not had an injury in the pre-season and/or been given more of a chance. Jalen Rose. Though many fans wanted to see more of him, (including yours truly), his lack of athleticism and the fact that he is a defensive liability probably sealed his fate.
On the other hand, it would be easy to say that Kurt Thomas was the Suns’ most consistent player in the Spurs series. Granted, he didn’t exactly shut down Tim Duncan, but he did allow his teammates to play the other Spurs straight up and stay at home. Until they were instructed by D’Antoni to do otherwise, apparently. And seeing Duncan play several games in a row makes one realize just how great he is in the low post, on both ends of the floor. Even through Thomas’ tough defense, Duncan hit on a vast array of shots. (Like I mentioned before kids-using the glass is a wonderful thing). Yet the Suns consistently let the Spurs perimeter shooters beat them.
Rumor has it, Boris Diaw has been given a Bunsen burner by the team as a lovely off-season parting gift, and has been instructed to sit on it. Hopefully it will be enough to light a fire under his ####.
Reportedly, Eric Piatkowski has been told that he will be back next season. Good thing, too. His 2.5 point average in 11 regular season games would be hard to replace. He played a grand total of three minutes in the playoffs. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against 37 year old three point shooters having a place on the team, as long as they can forecheck. But I just don’t see Piatkowski filling the bill. Unless the coach decides to let him off the bench once in awhile.
That would leave three roster spots open, provided the Suns make no other moves, which is certainly not a given. Phoenix already has the 24th and 29th picks in the first round of the draft. Based on how the lottery chips fall, they may also have Atlanta’s first round pick, thanks to the Joe Johnson/Boris Diaw deal. (Dang, should have gotten the Bunsen burner then). Stay tuned tomorrow for the final word on that. (Much more speculation regarding off-season moves to come, but that’s fodder for a later time. In the meantime, can you say “Mike Conley, Jr”?).
Visiting the “what if” question one final time would bring us to the realization that the Suns very well could have, and perhaps should have, won it all this year. Jerry Colangelo, who put this town on the sports map, saw his tenure with the team come to an end with its loss in game six. The fact that he never realized a championship with the team he helped mold from day one, and later purchased and sold, is a crying shame. And what seemed like such an immediately bright future just a couple seasons ago has now given way to the harsh reality that windows of opportunity seldom stay open very long in this business. Unless you have a Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, or Magic Johnson on your team. And the Suns have gone from the next big thing to just another also-ran. A season which I thought would mirror the 2006 Indianapolis Colts turned into, once again, more like the Buffalo Bills of the early ‘90s. Except the Bills at least got there. Nash is now 33 years old. Bell is 30. Yes, Stoudemire is still young, as are Barbosa and Diaw. But even Marion just turned 29 a couple weeks ago. Funny how times flies when you’re having fun.
Sunset? Perhaps. And unlike every other one in Arizona, this one may not be pretty.
Damn Ricko -- you really took this series loss to heart. But since you like playing the "What If" game...
"What if" you just admitted that the Spurs ARE a better team?
- Wouldn't it be an easier pill to ####. The stats over the Nash-era Suns vs. Spurs clearly prove that point.
"What if" the Suns didn't give up Home Court Advantage in Game 1 - just like in '05.
"What if" StoudeCrier had not called out one of game's best clutch performers (Manu) and the game's best perimeter defenders (Bowen)?
Amare's biggest mistake in this series was NOT coming off the bench in Game 4, it was indeed opening his MOUTH after Game 2 -- A victory no less (aren't you supposed to whine after losing?)
FACT: Look at Manu's stats the 1st 2 games -- and post Amare comments... Night & Day. Manu took over in both Games 5 & 6 to close out series. And all Bowen did was severely limit any Sun he was guarding - oh, and hit the GAME 5 WINNER!!
"What if" Nash walks the ball up the court (instead of running full speed) and let's the Spurs, in a must-foul situation, come to him??
- this is a QUESTION that needs to be asked, but I've heard no-one offer an explanation on why Nash looked like he was shot of a rocket on that play...
"What if" the Suns knew how to close out big playoff games b/c they've been there before?
- Sorry -- I know that one's a stretch...
Seriously though, it was a well-played hard fought series. I give Suns and Nash in particular a lot of credit for never giving up. How can you not like a guy that plays as hard as Nash?
Another incredible write Ricko. I get all the way to the bottom of an honest "tell it like it is" read and see your "Stayed in a Holiday Inn" comment. Classic Ricko. I pulled for the suns all the way with and for ya. Vearl and I brought your name up first after game six. You took soem heat all year and overall I'll say those people were dead wrong. You stood behind a team that shoulda, cloulda, woulda. If it could have been without controversy it would have been easier to #### for me. But in the end with the way they carried themselves, the Suns went out on top this year. Let's see what they hold in store next season my friend.
I just finished this read, I feel your passion here for your team, definetly a tough year when you don't win it all, especially with a team that you think has the talent, alot of bad breaks that keep the Suns from winning this, I think the biggest blow was Nash's nose, not being able to stop the bleeding, that was some drama sitting there waiting for the cut man to stop the bleeding, couldn't stop it!!
Secondly, I really think being a fan of basketball, and not the Suns but the kings, we have to look into the rule of leaving the bench, they just reacted to the flagrant foul by Horry, how can you not react if you ever played team sports, there your brothers for 8 months you'll fight for them, just a very sad rule that will be changed after this year I'm sure, Take care!!!!
If anybody cares what I think or how I feel about it, see above. Nice work Ricko (get off my brainwave).
Conley or Law?
If the Suns go big that will move Marion to the 3. He's not a 3 so I'm afraid he's trade bait and that would be sad. I love his game.
You were spot on with D'Antoni and the bench. Doesn't make alot of sense to do a trade for better bench help if he's not going to use them.
All is a mute point till we see how the ping pong balls fall.
lol at these Spurs fans still pounding their chest. Christmas came early for them.
JBnSA-If I have to explain why Nash looked like he was shot out of a rocket, I can only assume you are insinuating he took a dive. And that you didn't hear him hit the scorer's table even on TV, like most everyone I've talked to did. Damn good acting job, I guess. As for Stoudemire calling Bowen dirty, I didn't have a big problem with that. He's not the first one who's said so. At any rate, it was a great series. Too bad it didn't go seven. It could have been epic. (Geez, I sound like Jim Rome).
steelerfan-Thanks for stopping by as always. Sometimes disappointments are easier to take with a little levity thrown in. Guess it just wasn't meant to be. I wouldn't make any significant changes. They probably can't deal Banks, so he needs to improve and give Nash more breathers during the season. One or two decent picks and this team will be right back in it-I hope. Of course you never know. That luxury tax could be an issue, though.
vearl-I prayed to the basketball gods before the season that the Suns wouldn't have any significant injuries like they did the last two years, as I thought that was the only thing that could stop them. Guess I'll have to add 'suspensions' next year. Ironic isn't it, that Amare played all 82 to games then misses one without getting injured. But the fact of the matter is that the Suns still should have won game 5. It was in their grasp. Then, worst case scenario, there is a game 7. Opportuntiy doesn't knock all that often. Fix your bench, coach D.
baf-Thanks. Great to see you stop by. Do you have a pick for the U.S. Open yet?
stousli-No cryin' here. But thanks for stopping by. Every click on my blog is worth two blogger points, which I can redeem at the end of the year for great prizes.
Cha-ching.
pump-I just cannot see the Suns moving Marion. It would take something irresitable.
Rev-Horford would be my first choice if they get a high pick. I'd be okay with Brewer, also. Noah? Eh. Doesn't do much for me, honestly. But then you saw him play a whole lot more than I did. If the Suns get a lower pick or don't get Atlanta's pick at all, I want Conley. Thanks for stopping by.
Tough loss, Ricko. Especially considering all the "extras" involved in this series. Incredible effort by a determined team...
Like you said, I don't think that Phoenix needs to change any of their personnel. Basically, just saddle up...and try it again next year.
One good thing about sunsets...is that there is always another beauty on the way tomorrow. (I have no idea if that makes sense, I just thought it sounded cool)
Well Ricko no one knows your pain better than I ?
The number one Suns fan ! I agree with your post !
Momentum was taken from us over the Suspentions you read my posts. Another Championship series stolin from us. This was harder then the Paxson shot last second shot of a Jordan ran team in 1993, it was worse then lossing game five triple over time in 1976 to Boston.
Four or five Western finals failures lost in six or seven games.
This was our year. Now lets trade for Kevin Garnet or Greg Odem. Leave Nash and Stoudemire out of it.
Marion too if can be avoided. But it may take a grouping of talent to accompish it plus money ?
We need that Center to add to Stoudemire.
I still think the same exact team can do it with one more crack at it. But no injuries will tell the tell. Add one of those big guys and you are there.
Horford, 6'10, 245. A monster on the boards. Played both center and PF for Florida. The biggest and most powerful of the three Gators to be chosen in the first round. Great post presence and again, a MONSTER rebounder. Outside jumper could use some work, but he did develop some nice mid-range consistency. The most likely to immediately contribute to an NBA roster.
Noah, 6'11, also played both PF and center. Incredible energy and very high upside. Played guard in high school, then had a huge growth spurt, so can handle the ball well for a big man. NCAA tournament player of the year in 2006. Emotional, fiery leader of the Gators. Great shotblocker and weak-side defender and, in my opinion, would fit nicely into the uptempo philosophy of the Suns. Might suffer on a primarily half-court team that relies on him to score consistently in the post.
Brewer, 6'9. SF, could play either 2 or 3 in the pros, but too slight to play the 4-spot on either offense on defense. Was tourney player of the year in 2007. Great open court defender. Handles the ball well, smarter than he looks on the court and great instincts. Steady outside jumper and would also fit nicely into the Suns routine.
Personally, I still think Noah would be the best fit. The Suns need size and defense, particularly in the post. I don't know that Brewer could provide that, and I don't know that Horford could handle, at least immediately, the rigors of an untempo game for an 82-game season.
If I'm Phoenix management, I jump on Noah if I get the chance.
ok, I'll look for all three. Tell me about the first three picks on what it would take for Phoenix to move up and about those guys ?
thanks for that info it helps
Tough loss for the Suns. I thought it could've been their year as well. I know how hard these posts can be to write when one of your teams gets that far only to come up short.
In all, the way I look at it is that if the team made an exciting run and I had a good time watching them play, it was worth it. Are champioships better? Sure, but there are still other things you can get out of a season from a fan's standpoint, and the Suns had a very good year.
You provided a solid breakdown of the year that was and the year to be for the Suns.
I don't think Phoenix has any interest in moving up in this draft. There will be plenty of talent available when they pick.
Although it would certainly be silly to say an NBA team doesn't need Oden, in two games against Florida this season, the Gators ran him up and down the floor, and he looked winded.
I think you want an athlete that will fit into D'Antoni's system without upsetting the applecart too much.
I've heard people say you need a back up point guard, and although Conley's solid, he's only a freshman. If Phoenix is going to make a run at a title over the next three years, Nash is still going to have to still log major minutes. You can pick up a PG in the second round or through free agency without having to mortgage your future on a point guard early on.
Phoenix didn't lose to San Antonio because of their guard play, although I did feel Barbosa made poor decisions during the series.
You need interior defense and a rebounding presence. Brandan Wright from UNC might also be a wise choice. But he's not as big or experienced as Noah.
The Suns were definitely a 'tough out' as they say Ricko. Don't count your Suns out yet. They showed a lot of heart in the series against the Spurs. Something the rest of the NBA has been looking for out of them, and didn't think they had. Nash plays a style that will be good for another 3 to 4 years. He plays fast, but its not like he plays Barbosa fast, if you know what I mean.
By the way, lay off my boy Piatkowski. Being 37 and a Husker, I happen to know the guy fairly well. Pretty damn good guy if I do say so myself.
I think the Suns will be fine next year. Just don't lose the faith my friend. But I'm sure by next year, you'll have the fever back anyway.
Excellent post by the way. Very much enjoyed it.
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rick...sorry, you have been a great fan. I was rooting hard for them. As a Celt fan, I am still jealous...at least you have a team that you know has a shot. Then again, the pain of knowing that and still losing hurts. I'll buy the drinks. There's always football....Go Cards! :)
Rev, they will get the 7th pick, and Mr. Corey Brewer would fit in very nicely in Phoenix. He would make Raja Bell expendable, and with 2 more draft picks in the 1st round, things are looking up Ricko.
No, I don't think so, but it could definitely make him interesting trade material for them. I think Mr. Brewer is the 2nd best in the draft, leaps and bounds behind Mr. Durant.
That is what their 20+ picks, two of them in the 1st round are for as far as I'm concerned. Draft big athletic guys that nobody else wants. Heck, the Suns don't need scoring, they need big bodies to play D and rebound. That is what they should get at these spots. Not to mention they could trade 2 to get the 1 they desire. They could also draft Jeff Green at 7, get the other guys later. Probably would be a better choice for them anyway. A strong 4 with Amare is what they really need. By the way I'll take Green over Horford, any day of the week.
Thanks for being one of the few Suns fans who say Game 5 should have been won. We wanted a game 7.
Too many of the points you had could have been applied to Dallas and the F'ing GState over achievers. Oh well, there's always...well ####, nothing else.
Successful franchises are a little short in Phonenix, which the Suns players have to love.
It's like being a ND Hockey player.
Way to get it all out Ricko. I know how disappointed you are.
For the record, the rule is stupid. What happened to Diaw and Stoudamire is not the true "spirit of the law". However, it has happened to others before, which does not unmake it as a stupid. It just is what it is and I'm tired of hearing Stern defend it.
Despite the end result, it was a great season for the team. They are a great bunch to watch play.
Rever. Suns had Atlanta pick if not higher than #4.
It ended up #3. They can still give it to Phoenix or wait til next year. Suns get Atlanta's next year even if its the no#1 pick . I beleave they can still give it to the Suns but will not cause they get a good play at three then move there record up a few wins. But you never know with trades and cash ?
Ricko -- you got me all wrong bro...I don't think for a second that Nash was "acting" on the play... I just questioned the wisdom of him running like that on the play.
If he's walking, or even at a brisk hopping pace -- there's no flying into scorer's table.
What Horry did was WRONG -- I hated to see that in the game. And I disagreed w/ suspensions from Day1. But Players know the Rules.. Horry didn't suspend Stat & Diaw -- the league did -- actually -they brought it on themselves by not keeping their heads in a big moment of a big game.
When suns reflect back on all this, the underlying factor that will always be the Biggest difference between the teams is simple --- Experience won out over Youth.
THANKS TO ALL FOR STOPPING BY AND FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
ea-I'm against Oden or Durant. For the simple reason that the Suns would have to give up too much to get either. Especially since the lottery didn't fall their way tonight (are they jinxed?). Yes, they still have #s 24 & 29, but if I'm moving up, it's to somewhere between 8-12 to grab Conley, or at least Acie Law. I know most would say that they need another big man, but if they keep Thomas, and with Stoudemire only getting better, their main concern is A BACKUP POINT GUARD AND THEIR BENCH. ARE YOU LISTENING, COACH D??
Just my opinion. But if they do move up to #ten or so and Brewer's there, you gotta take him. And make Marcus Banks improve. And play him.
JBnSA-You said that Nash looked like he was "shot out of a rocket." Guess I took that to mean you thought he was acting.
However, you do bring up a GREAT point that I haven't heard mentioned yet-why wasn't he walking the ball up the court with a four point lead and 18 seconds left? I do believe it goes back to coaching. And as far as the experience vs. youth debate, I would offer this: Suns/Spurs series aside, who's going to get more calls-a guy like Tim Duncan or a guy like Amare Stoudemire? Is that based on experience--or reputation? Not trying to play devil's advocate, really. But I think we both know the answer.
1) One of the reasons that D'Antonio fails to use his bench adequately is because of their offensive scheme. 1-8 are great open court players. 8-12 are not. Since they have had a great deal of success in the regular season with their fast break attack and because D'Antoni places a lot of emphasis on "continuity" he doesn't go as deep into his bench as he should.
2) The Spurs controlled the tempo in 5 of the 6 games of that series. The only game that San Antonio failed to dicate tempo was game 2. 4 of those 5 resulted in victories. The one loss came because Nash engineered a miraculous 4th quarter comeback but in my opinion the Spurs were never in jeopardy of losing this series.
3) Great defensive teams such as the Spurs will continue to control the tempo versus Phoenix in the playoffs. Basketball is a simple game. All an opposing team needs to do is take high percentage shots and close out on the three point line. The Spurs aren't going anywhere so Phoenix will need to get past them if they are to win a ring.
4) Phoenix is a better defensive team than I gave them credit for but they need to acquire 1 or 2 more players to win a title. They need another half-court threat. Like I said, they will continue to be forced into the half-court in the playoffs.
5) You're going to call me crazy for saying this but it is something I've been saying since before the season began: it's time to trade Shawn Marion.
When forced into the halfcourt he is a good player but he will never be the difference in the playoffs. San Antonio took he and Barbosa out of the series because neither player was allowed easy buckets in transition.
Since Marion is Phoenix's highest paid player and could very well net at least two VERY good role players I would trade him while his trade value is still high.
His worth is his athleticism. Once he loses that, he will be a very average player.
He cannot create his own shot and I still believe that his defense is HIGHLY OVERRATED. His defensive value is his versatility. The fact that he CAN guard 1-5 doesn't mean he can shut any of those positions down.
Rev-Thanks for breaking down the Gator ####. The great thing about Brewer is that I can see him becoming a Grant Hill (in his prime) type, minus the injuries, hopefully. I know you are big on Noah, but I just don't think he helps them for an extended period of time. The first year or two, maybe. But if he doesn't get better offensively, it will be a short term improvement for the team. In other words, the league is full of guys his size that have a limited offensive game. Yes, I like the size, the defense, and the athleticism. But in the post-season, if your 6' 11" guy isn't an offensive threat late in the game, why have him out there? Isn't that the main goal of getting a guy like that in the first place, especially if you're the Suns?
Almost forgot, Rev. Excellent point about Horford and his stamina, at least the first year or two. I hadn't thought about that, but now that you mention it, I could see that being an issue.
Nice to have different viewpoints from people in various parts of the country who are familiar with a team/player and who know what they're talking about, in my opinion. Thanks for the input.
Spent half my life in North Dakota. The other half, so far, in the Valley of the Sun. As a kid, I was always playing, watching, reading, or writing about sports. I lost most of the "playing" along the way, but the rest remains the same. I pledge to refrain from commenting on a blog unless I've read it in its entirety. If I have time, of course.
Carry on.
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