There have been more twists in this series than some teams see in a year. Steve Nash gets his nose split wide open late in game one, and I’m sure everyone immediately thought that he may miss significant time in the next game, which of course he did not. Then came the Bruce Bowen leg flail in game two, after which Amare Stoudemire referred to the Spurs as a “dirty team.” Stoudemire later said he was specifically referring to Bowen and Manu Ginobili. (Earlier this season, Ginobili gave Bell a forearm shiver that cost Bell a game due to injury, a play I’m sure all the Suns remember.) If you haven’t heard, Robert Horry committed a flagrant foul on Steve Nash late in game 4. Perhaps out of frustration, perhaps with intent. Following the subsequent suspensions of Horry, Stoudemire, and Diaw, Commissioner David Stern and NBA Punishment-Hander-Outer Stu Jackson were fried by every media outlet in the country. (Isn’t it just a little ironic that the player who called the Spurs dirty sits out a game as a result of a dirty play by Horry?) The phrases “a rule is a rule,” “immediate vicinity,” and “gray area” were thrown around more often than Bowen shows up on youtube. A couple of my favorites were, “It’s not a matter of fairness, it’s a matter of correctness.” Huh? Actually Stu, it turned out to be neither. In fact, it wasn’t in the “immediate vicinity” of either. Better luck next time. And “The rule is the rule . . . We intend to apply it consistently.” Strike two. (Look for a breaking ball low and away, Stu Mendoza.)
A dangerous precedent was set with the Jackson/Stern decision. What is there to stop a team from sending out it’s 12th man to bodycheck with the intent of inciting a reaction from the other team, which would result in a suspension of one or more players? For this, I bring in Alex Trebec. “The answer is: nothing.” I’m sure the league will change the rule after the season. But for now, I’ll take “Gray Areas for $500, Alex.”
And what does “immediate vicinity” mean, anyway? Stu Jackson-Mendoza, still trying to raise his average above .150, said in a local radio interview that Stoudemire and Diaw were 20 to 25 feet away from their seats. So, had their seats been nearer to the “altercation,” would they have been, say, only 10 to 15 feet away? Would that still be in the “immediate vicinity?” Ah, the metric system is a beautiful thing, isn’t it Mr. Mendoza? Perhaps we should apply it to your batting average. It may help. Or to your gray area, if you had one. Which we know you don’t. You told us over and over. But repeating an ambiguous rule makes neither your decision nor the rule right.
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Phoenix. Pronunciation: \'fe-niks\ Function: noun
: a legendary bird which according to one account lived 500 years, burned itself to ashes on a pyre, and rose alive from the ashes to live another period; also: a person or thing likened to the phoenix
Through five games of one of the better series in recent memory, the San Antonio Spurs lead the Phoenix Suns 3-2. And the better team almost always wins in a seven game series. Which is why I like the Suns chances of winning two straight. Through the five games, the Suns have outscored the Spurs 497-486. One could be so bold as to say that, save for a Nash-Gash and an unfortunate suspension, this series may be over. But I'm getting a little ahead of myself.
In the ’05 playoffs, Joe Johnson took a vicious fall against the Mavericks. He basically broke his face, yet the Suns still prevailed without him, only to fall the Spurs in five games. (Happy in Atlanta, Joe? At least you’re the main guy now, aren’t you?) Heading into the following season, Amare Stoudemire was thought to be lost for the season after micro-fracture surgery on one knee and a more common surgery to his other knee. Most NBA scribes labeled the Suns a .500 team at best. Mike D’Antoni though, said that his team would still win 50 games and be a force in the playoffs. After winning 54 and losing 28, and Kurt Thomas and Raja Bell to injury, the Suns made it to the western conference finals. (Granted, the seeding was a bit out of whack, which has since been fixed. But you can only play who they tell you to play.) Stoudemire wound up playing in three mid-season games before it was decided that he would be put on the shelf, as his knees were not recovered enough for the rigors of the NBA. And with his removal from the lineup came more predictions of a lost season. Yet the Suns rose again. And I believe they will in this series.
There is one glaring reason why the Suns lost game five to the Spurs last night. Mike D’Antoni has answered the usual questions about his coaching ability.
His style can’t win a title. Yes, it can. And even the biggest nay-sayers know it, I believe. They may not admit, but they can see it happening.
His team doesn’t play any defense. Yes, it does. No, they’re not the Detroit Pistons, and never will be. But I doubt even the Pistons could have played the defense the Suns did in the fourth quarter of game four. Or in game five, save for the last two minutes when the Suns ran out of gas.
Which brings me to the one criticism that D’Antoni has failed to quell:
His bench is too shallow. Yup, it is. No argument there. It would be easy to say that he should have played Pat Burke, Marcus Banks, or, especially, Jalen Rose in game five. And he should’ve played all three to give his starters more rest, with Stoudemire and Diaw sidelined. But it’s hard to play your bench when you don’t have confidence in them. And this is where I fault D’Antoni. Yes, he should have played his bench more last night. But I don’t know how much it would have helped. The real problem is that he didn’t play them on a consistent basis during the season. And therefore didn’t feel comfortable doing it last night. And that falls squarely on the D’Antoni’s shoulders, since he made the personnel decisions in the off-season, as far as anyone can tell, and the playing time decisions during the season.
The worst thing about the game four incident is that the enormity of Suns effort in seizing the game from the Spurs was lost, due to all the Horry/Nash rhetoric and ramifications. The Suns shut down the Spurs defensively in the closing minutes and won a game no one thought they would win. Including Robert Horry, apparently. To think that the Suns can’t do it again in San Antonio in game six is a more than a little presumptuous. And when it goes to a game seven, I'll take the Suns. And since my nerves will be shot, I can guarantee you I'll be leaving the "immediate vicinity" of my couch. Who knows, I'll probably get so excited that I may wind up 20 feet away. Hopefully I won't have to miss game one of the western conference finals because of it. That would give Shooter an advantage.
The series is far from over...and even though I don't have a match-up preference for Utah, I'll be pulling for the Suns to take care of business.
But if that happens...better stay glued to that TV. Don't want to give me an edge...
Hopefully, the backlash from the suspensions in this series will be enough for Stern to change the rules to something that makes sense. This isn't the first time that something like this has altered a playoff series, but it is definitely the biggest impact ever.
Damn Ricko! Is this a test for a jounalism career for a sports mag or what? Great stuff. I'll be with you all the way hoping and waiting for the Suns to take the Spurs down. I'd like to see a 22 point dominant crushing of San Antonio in game seven. That would make everything great for me. Super write my man.
Nice Post Ricko. I must say the Spurs have more experience in closing out teams than the Suns, but experience is only handy in the last 3-4 mins of the game, and even this can be offset with great talent and good shooting.
Amare Stoudemire said he's over the suspension.His focus now turns turned toward redemption with the Suns facing elimination going into Friday's Game 6 in San Antonio. The Spurs lead the best-of-seven series 3-2. "I'm so ready," Stoudemire said Thursday. "I was ready last night. The guys did a great job of hanging in there and playing hard, it's just unfortunate I wasn't able to play."
A rejuvenated Stoudemire usually means an aggressive Stoudemire. Sometimes that translates well.After watching Kwame Brown grab national attention by scoring 19 points during the Suns' first-round series against the Lakers, Stoudemire promised revenge for the next game. He finished with 27 points and 21 rebounds.Other times, however, Stoudemire's emotion and aggression work against him, as it did in Game 3 against the Spurs.After calling defensive specialist Bruce Bowen and sixth man Manu Ginobili dirty players, Stoudemire became Public Enemy No. 1 in San Antonio.The Suns center craved the venom, loved the boos. But his emotions got the best of him, and foul trouble limited him to 21 minutes."He's his own man," Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said of Stoudemire, the team's leading postseason scorer at 23.9 points. "If you haven't noticed, he's a confident guy. Yeah, he'll be excited to start, and he'll have all that energy. If the past is any proof, he knows how to handle this. . . . Amaré's always risen to the challenge."
Excellent work Ricko...I too thought D'Antoni didn't take advantage of his bench enough in game 5. I see no reason why Banks couldn't guard Parker for the last couple of minutes at the end of a couple of quarters or give Rose a chance to imput his experience on the game. I was dissapointed he didn't use Eddie House last year. I thought he had earned it with his regular season play.
Tonight will be tuff on the nerves. I am confident in the team and their ability. Get this one and come home for what will truley be an epic game 7.
Again great read, looking foward to your post over the weekend. peace
yrooster-I love riddles! Okay, I'll bite. What's it like?
steelerfan-Thanks a lot, buddy. Still got the faith here. I truly think the Suns are the better team. Man, it's gonna be sweet if it happens.
STAT-Thanks for the props. I'm curious to see how Horry will be treated back here in game seven. It could be the loudest "BOOOOOOOOOOO!" you've ever heard.
Hey gcoach! Thanks for stopping by. Coming from you, that's quite the compliment.
Hoffman-You're correct about Stoudemire. Good analysis. The thing is, even when he just play the 21 minutes, he still had 20 point and (I think?) 10 rebounds. Even another game like that could be the difference. Thanks for stopping by. Always appreciated.
pumpdude-Thanks a lot. Yeah, I'm quite sure Banks could have at least stayed on a three point shooter, even if he did little else late in the game when the Suns were leading. At least he had fresh legs. The last two games were tough enough on my nerves. Boy, what I wouldn't give for a 25 point Suns win so I can at least relax a little. Doubt that'll happen, though. I need to score some valium somehow . . .
I think you have done a good job analyzing the situation.
However, I don't agree (not surprisingly) with you on 2 pts
1. Your worry that the suspension on Stoudamire and Diaw would set a bad precedent for the NBA is a bit too much.
The only thing that Amare and Diaw needed to do to prevent themselves from being suspended was NOT to leave the bench. It could not be any easier than that!
I know you would say that they had too much passion for Nash and they showed loyalty by leaving the bench. But that's not true. What about the other 5 Suns on the bench, who didn't leave? You think they didn't have passion and loyalty for Nash. I am sure they did, but they also had brains and self-control.
Think about it. If Horry fouled Nash really hard, Nash got up and made his free throws (which he did), Raja Bell didn't try to start a fight, and Amare didn't leave his bench, then no Suns would have been suspended. And only Horry would be suspended (probably not for 2 games). Then the Suns would be full-strength for game 5 and would have won.
The Spurs were trying to start something after losing game 4 (Horry has 6 rings, he knows what he was doing, it was totally calculated). But if the Suns were smart enough not to take the bait, then there wouldn't be any problem for them.
In the end, the Suns can only blame themselves for being inexperienced enough to take the bait. I am sure next time something like this happens, Amare wouldn't be that stupid.
2. The other thing I disagree with you is the role of Stu Jackson. It's funny that when he suspended Kobe for his "unnatural arm motion), you were his biggest supporter. Now the table is turned, and you think he is an #### now.
But what do you expect him to do? He didn't invent the rule. He wasn't the first one to apply the rule to similar situations. Numerous players had been suspended because of the rules before Stu Jackson was even put in his position.
And once gain, let me tell you something. Stu Jackson is just a mouth piece or pawn for David Stern. You know why he is the person in charge of handing out suspension? Because he is black. Stern simply wants a black man be the one who hands out suspensions to the mostly black players.
So don't go so hard on Stu Jackson. A rule was broken, and he had to do what he had or told to do.
rooster-I had a feeling you and the 'y' version were not one in the same. I'm still waiting for his answer to the riddle. A tangle I could handle. An altercation? Hmm. Not sure. I'll have to look the words up to see what exactly the difference is--if there is indeed any. Thanks for the kudos.
bbing-As for the precedent I discussed, I saw it happen several times back in the day. Do I really think it could happen now? No, because I'm nearly positive the rule will be changed. I must say thanks for the props, though. (I think . . ) Way to bring race into it. Come on, bbing.
Hoffman-Thanks for setting the record straight. I THOUGHT it was a little to smooth to come from you. ; ) Just kidding.
Thanks, lisa. Chin's up here. Got my game face on--again. (This is wearing me out).
fans pay to see the best players play. if ur gonna kick anybody out kick horry out because hes not a big part of the spurs lineup anymore. why in the hell would people in phoenix go to a game when stoudemire and diaw aren't playing. i think that the nba just wants to see the suns fail and the spurs to suceed all that dirty play stuff should seriously be looked at by the league should suspend bowen and ginobi for the dirty play ginobli is just like kobe every time he gets stripped he flails around just like kobe trying to draw a foul. but all he does is hit ppl in the face and other parts. bowen kneed steve nash in his balls and tried to take out stoudemire's achilles
oh hell ya this series should already be over, and the spurs should be back at home cryin like the little cheating ####es that they are. i think the game today is gonna be a blowout and the suns are going to take the series and go on to the Finals and then chamions of the 06-07 season. go suns
Of the three (you, GRUN, and pump), I feel like you are the only one I can talk to, because you actually can engage in intelligent conversation.
I didn't bring race into the equation, I simply weren't afraid of discussing race as an issue in the NBA or any sector of our society.
I know the common thing for us white people to do is ignore the problem of racial double standard and pretend no such problem exists. But fortunately for me, I don't lie to myself.
Anyway, consider this: How can a man like Stu Jackson (who ran the Grizzlies to the ground in Vancuver) get a job as the executive vice president? What credentials does he have?
My guess is that he is a good friend of Stern, and Stern needs a black man to hand out suspensions to the black players, so that the players and the fans won't cry racism.
GRUN points out his job is executive vice president. But does he do anything else other than handing out suspension?
Nope, he is basically there to do one thing: suspend the players that Stern wants to suspend.
Great job Ricko, I hope your right ! I picked this series in seven remember ? I am still very up set
that Stoudemire and Diaw were suspended. But, the short Suns gave them hell ! I was very pround of this team. Take away the breaks the Spurs have already received we would be advancing already.
But now all that talk about going to the finals is here. Its a tuff here. This game is the proving game of all games !
Game seven will be an all out blitz by the Suns !
This game is the ball breakers or the hero's celebration. I have no more nails to bit off.
This is not only the Suns players dreams to move on but us long time Suns fans hopes. I've been
around following these guys before these players even heard of the suns.
Now if we are a great team prove it so. Win the last two for all of us !
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ok. i have been one of the suns fans not calling the spurs or even bruce bowen dirty. however bruce i think proved me wrong. did anyone else see his right foot when he landed from the 3 he hit in the 4th quarter to give san antonio the lead. as nash was flying by. it appeared to me bowen stuck his foot way out to the right as to maybe trying to trip nash as he went by.
On Hoffs comments,,,,, I'm the most worried about the players who played so hard in game 5,,, kind of expect them to be a little flat at the start, but the two that sat should be more than ready to go and the rest will catch up by the 2nd quarter... I like the Jazz so the Spurs seem like our best chance, but I can't root for them now and never did anyway...
What a lot of younger fans don't realize is that the bench rule was brought about for the safety of the players and fans at the game. In the early 80's there were many bench clearing brawls because of much harder fouls than the Horry arm shiver to Nash. Just go back to the Celtic/Pistons playoffs or the Celtic/Lakers playoffs. So to now say it is unfair seems kind of shortsighted because if the rule wasn't there you would see real mayhem on the court. Let's let the Suns and Spurs settle this on the court over the next two games if necessary.
yes win. that will make it all better. a game seven is the best thing for this series. that way regardless what transpired before is old news. these to great teams can then just leave it all out on the floor and they can decide who moves on. again as i have said before, if the spurs win in seven so be it and i will tip my hat and say good luck.
also even though i think nash would have made contact with ginobili anyway. did it appear to you that ginobili may have moved to his right as he landed to sell the contact a little bit more than needed
Slick Rick-
I say Commissioner Gordon, er Stern made the right call. It's unfortunate that Fee-Niks didn't finish off the Spurs in Game 5. They let it slip away it happens often.
I did pick the Spurs to win it all over Dee-trout.
ricko - great post -well thought out and I can appreciate your zeal for wanting to see the Suns go all the way -- I think sometimes we take it for granted down here in San Antonio -- having earned a few rings already -- but I can remember a lot of "almost" years before they broke through in '99.
I just hope the players (refs take a back seat) get to decide the remaining game(s)... it's been a great series of high-caliber basketball played by 2 very good, well-coached teams.
I've been amazed at how the media/blogs have run w/ all the "dirty" team talk -- deep down any objective basketball fan knows it's b.s. and the Spurs just play great Defense & have exemplified CLASS in winning their rings. I'm sure StoudeCrier will grow up one day and see that his actions & comments cost his team dearly. Take responsibility young man, and let your playing do the talking.
ricko .......... It's now become apparent taht the Spurs took out the Suns in six games. But it maight jst as well been a turf war between the 'Cripps' and 'Bloods' because of the animosity between the two teams. It's left a bitter taste in the mouths of many and has tarnished the reputation of this Spurs' team. As for the heirarchy within the NBA they'd better take a closer look at their officials and their overall qualifications. Because I'm not so sure that many of 'em are even qualified to adjudicate a game. The countless mistakes that were made in many of the series lent itself to the fact that there was so much confrontation between many of the teams in the postseason.
Stern and his underling Stu Jackson were all too quick to suspend players but'll now have to take a close look at the officials and their officiating as it left a lot to be desired. Suffice to say that if we get more of the same in the remaining games then they might as well shut it down. And just have the players fight amongst each other with knives and bottles or any other assorted weapons. Guns aren't included in this melee' !
I think Ricko is playing about 144 stright holes of golf, but if he plays like me that will only make him madder...Ricko..next year the Sun will shine....if I can retire for good and get back down there... if not (I'm from Washington) and could get season tickets to the Vegas Sonics,,,I'm not going to Oklahoma City though..no offence to Oklahoma.....
HaHaHaHa.. i thought the better team always wins a 7 game series... HaHaHa... so.. what kind of whines/complaints do you have about game 6.. hahahahaha... the spurs won 3 games besides game 5 please admit that the Spurs were the better team hahahah the Suns will never win a championship playing that style.. they will have many more 50+ win seasons in the future but no rings good day sir
Spent half my life in North Dakota. The other half, so far, in the Valley of the Sun. As a kid, I was always playing, watching, reading, or writing about sports. I lost most of the "playing" along the way, but the rest remains the same. I pledge to refrain from commenting on a blog unless I've read it in its entirety. If I have time, of course.
Carry on.
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