But It's A DRY Heat . . .
by: ricko
Nash Tries To Bite Horry’s Elbow As Popovich And D’Antoni Go Head-To-Head In Suns Win
May 14, 2007 | 11:39PM | report this

Hey David Stern, it’s not my fault that you still haven’t figured out how to schedule your playoff games. It’s now 6:45 and the “6:30" Suns/Spurs game still isn’t on. If this Nets/Cavs game goes to overtime, I’ll be forced to go change my oil, which I’ve been successful putting off up to this point. Then I’ll REALLY be pissed!

 

Okay, 6:55 now and still no Suns/Spurs. Where’s my funnel and that oil filter I bought last month?

 

7:00 now, the Cavs/Nets game just ended and, after a couple commercials, I see that I missed three and a half minutes of the Suns/Spurs game. Sorry, your “fashionably late” b.s. isn’t working for me. You should take a page from the NFL, the most successful sports league around. They start their games on time. Yes, even the playoff games. (Well, except for the concert and concurrent 45 minute halftime show during the Super Bowl. Okay, forget what I said).

 

 

Coming into this game, some observations I’ve noticed:

-Kurt Thomas has indeed played Tim Duncan pretty tough. Duncan has hit a lot of very tough shots, which is what makes him Tim Duncan. (Memo to young players-the backboard can be your friend. Learn to use it). I’d like to see the Suns continue to play Duncan straight up with Thomas instead of doubling him.

 

-Contrary to popular belief, the Suns defense has played pretty well. The Spurs have shot just 43% through three games.

-The Suns free throw percentage has been a little off. One of the best FT shooting teams in the regular season(80.8), and in last year’s playoffs as well (83.1), they are shooting just 76.8% in this series. That’s enough to make a difference.

-As for all the back-and-forth bickering about the officiating, I look at it this way: I think the officials call a lot of stuff based on a team or player's reputation, whether they intend to or not. The Spurs have the reputation of a tough defensive team, and therefore are going to get more calls in a physical game. The Suns have never had that reputation, and therefore are not going to get a lot of calls when they are physical, simply because it seems out of the ordinary for them. Much like a big man carrying the ball vs. a point guard doing it. Almost all point guards do it at one time or another, and it's almost never called. When a center does it, it looks so out of the ordinary that a red flag goes up and the officials will call it almost every time.
The fact of the matter, though, is that the team that feels like it's not getting the calls has a much better chance of getting some in the future if they play through it. We could go back and forth about which team whines more, but the fact of the matter is that both teams are doing it too much.

-I still haven’t figured out why D’Antoni hasn’t used his bench more, something I’ve been saying all season. Jalen Rose, for example, has the veteran post-season experience that would no doubt help the Suns. With James Jones having been replaced in the starting line-up by Thomas after game one, Rose would seem to me a natural for grabbing Jones’ minutes. I’m not giving up on Jones yet, but this is about the here and now, and Rose should be playing. Don’t laugh, but the Suns also have a sharp shooter, Eric Piatkowski, sitting on their bench. Like Brent Barry and Robert Horry for the Spurs, Piatkowski offers little more than a long-range presence, which may be effective at times. Unfortunately, he hasn’t been used much at all this season, so who knows how accurate his shot would be. But I would have tried him against Barry or Horry early in the series to get a feel. Okay, enough about that. Let’s get on with it.

 

At 3:08 of the first, (which is one of the first plays I saw in the game-thanks, Mr. Stern, you turd), Ginobili hits an open three. Stay on your man, Suns. Shortly after, Marion goes into the crowd trying to retrieve a loose ball, and has to jump over the cameramen. He landed at the feet of Suns’ owner Robert Sarver. The incident reminded me of the Dennis Rodman incident many years ago, when he fell into the cameramen and kicked one of them on the way back to the court. And Rodman was either fined or suspended for it-maybe both, I don't remember. Far be it for me to ever defend Rodman's actions, but I remember getting into it with a lot of my friends at the time, because I felt that cameramen had no business being that close to the field of play. What would happen if a player falls or trips over one of them and tears up a knee or breaks a leg?

Anyway, Michael Finley, who was drafted by the Suns, hits a long jumper. Hey Suns, stay on your man! With 7:27 to go in the second, Duncan is called for a foul on Nash, which was not a good call. Perhaps it was a makeup call for Duncan shuffling both his pivot feet immediately prior to scoring on the other end. Just a thought.

With Duncan out at 2:17, Barry hits a three. Again, why are you leaving three point shooters open? Who are you doubling, Oberto? Wake the hell up.

 

Spurs lead 45-40 at halftime. One thing I’ve noticed-Nash is playing well for the most part, but he is committing too many turnovers. It’s costing the Suns to this point. Great intensity through the first half, though. I wish all NBA games were like this. Though after listening to the last few minutes of the first half on radio, I wonder why the TV broadcast doesn’t produce the same crowd volume. Also, it would be easy to say that the score indicates a Spurs scoring pace, but the first three games disproved that theory, so it means little at this point. And as I suspected, the officiating hasn’t been an issue so far in the game. As much as we all complain about it, it seldom seems to last more than one game at a time. (Which is no excuse, Stern. It still needs to be fixed. Kind of like your scheduling).

Stoudemire converts a three point play late in the third. That’s crucial. Suns need to get some momentum. And with five seconds left in the quarter, Barbosa dribbles right into traffic and doesn’t get a shot off. Come on, Leandro. Use your head. Third quarter ends with an 80-72 Spurs lead, which I believe was the same score after three quarters in game three.

With 8:57 left in the fourth, there’s a TV timeout, which occurs at the first whistle under nine, six, and three minutes of each quarter. Don’t ask me why. Just think advertising. And the Suns have the “deer in the headlights” look. Not looking good for the Suns, as they trail by nine. But coming out of the TV timeout, Marion hits a three. This is a key point, no, a HUGE point in the game-perhaps even a watershed moment, as Steve Kerr suggested-for the Suns.

 

At 6:54 of the fourth, Ginobili goes down like he’s been shot. But then he did run into Stoudemire, who had position. I can honestly say I’ve just seen the first really bad call of the game. Not to worry, though. Our eyes are on the prize.

 

At 5:10, Finley hits an open jumper. STAY ON YOUR F*****G MAN!! And Nash is still turning it over too much. It’s costly. As I hear the stats on three pointers made, I can’t help but think that the Suns haven’t had as many open looks as the Spurs. Probably because they are not staying at home defensively.

 

Shawn Marion is having a huge fourth quarter, both defensively and on the boards. (Okay, we all know the Suns don’t play any defense. You got me there). And as Sebastian said in “The Little Mermaid”, my nerves are shot! But the Suns are not quite dead yet . . .

 

Marion gets another huge rebound, and the Suns are doubling Duncan just enough on the other end. It’s working out nicely. Could it be?

Holy cow. With 32 seconds left, the Suns have a three point lead. NOW HEAR THIS: STAY AT HOME ON DEFENSE!! Which they did. And even with Nash missing two of four free throws in the last minute, the Suns win. (I’d trade Nash for a high-quality folding chair, since he can’t hit his free throws). Suns win in a way that no one saw coming. Well, almost no one. 

 

Oh, did I mention that Steve Nash went a little overboard with Robert Horry late in the game? Yup, trust me. I saw it. Horry was just minding his own business, running over to defend Nash, and BAM! Nash suddenly tried to bite him in the elbow. Totally uncalled for. Oh sure, Nash flopped into the scorer’s table like a Ginobili out of water, but he didn’t fool me. No sir. I wasn’t born yesterday.

 

As for the possible repercussions mentioned for Stoudemire and Diaw for coming off the bench, I would offer this: Earlier this season, after a game vs. Toronto, Raja Bell was suspended for one game because, in the league's opinion, he "intended" to knee an opposing player, though no contact was actually made. However, in game three, Bowen actually DID make contact with Nash's groin area, and was not suspended. I guess the league decided that Bowen did not actually "intend" for his knee to come in contact with Nash. Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this picture? And when did raising one's knee in the direction of your opponents groin become a "natural basketball move"?

 

Okay, I’ll move on. If Horry’s move tonight results in a suspension for any Suns player, does that mean the age of the enforcer is back? You know, like back in the ‘70s when a player would get a little overly physical with an opponents star in hopes of getting the star, or other teammates, out of the game, or a subsequent game? I guess we’ll see.

Before I go, let me leave you with this. Lyrikell, SoAmazin, and Mr. Popovich, with your “hard-nosed defense,” you’re all done. Bbing, jaysisko and all you other Suns nay-sayers; done too. You all have exactly four days to get your shots in. Because after Friday’s game six, you’ll have to wait ‘til next year. Like I’ve been saying all along, the teams would split the first two in Phoenix and the second two in San Antonio, and the Suns would win in six. Ciao. You see, it's all about mental toughness.

And thanks for taking the time to read.

 

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NashtyBall
May 15, 2007
12:07 AM
Beautiful post. Your words are like cool, sweet nectar on a warm summer's day.....

ricko
May 15, 2007
12:46 AM
Aw, shucks . . .

AK47spiderman
May 15, 2007
5:12 AM
i believe horry took the flagrant 2 infront of the sun's bench on purpose to try to get some peopel suspended in game 5.

typical spurs, just a dirty organization

gimme3steps
May 15, 2007
5:33 AM
Where,s Tyson when you need him

FlyingPig
May 15, 2007
5:47 AM
I don't know about suspending any Suns after the Spurs threw down a gauntlet and SHOWED that they were going to be the "Bad Boys of 2007". The fact that nothing was done up to this point would indicate that any suspensions should be served during next regular season.

Hmmmm...I wonder if the Spurs think they can get away with that stuff against the Pistons?

lyrikell
May 15, 2007
6:07 AM
WOW Ricko,you actually don't come off like a die-hard Suns fan on this one.lol.

Look,the way I see it is the officiating in these games(just like last year)has been consistently inconsistent across the board.I've had a problem with the officiating in every series from the start of the playoffs;including this one.

It seems they favor 1 team 1 game and then they switch to the opposing team the next.Whoever complains about the officiating one game;is bound to get the calls in the next.

That's why a player that torched a team 1 game is always conveniently in foul trouble the next game.That's the NBA.

You are also correct in some players getting calls based on their reputation.That's just like Shaq can get away with elbowing any defender but Ben Wallace;because Wallace has been notated as defending Shaq better than anyone(well outside of Duncan and Yao).

Horry's cheap shot in my opinion was frustration from just being fouled(with no call)by Nash on the possession in question.Not excusing him,but I'm seeing alot of players melting down when they feel they are being robbed in their own building(The exact same thing happen in the GS-Utah series the night before).

The Sad thing about it;all this bad blood that is being form between teams(not just this series)can be directly attributted to the inconsistency of the calls.If you feel like you have been getting hammered all game with no call,while being called for every touch foul in the book;you're possibly are going to snap.

Unfornately they can't take their frustration out on stupid refs.and smack them across the

Last edited by lyrikell on May 15th at 6:48 AM.

Miracle
May 15, 2007
6:09 AM
My short attention span disorder won't allow me to read the entire post, but what I did read was damn good.

Hi

lyrikell
May 15, 2007
6:18 AM
Cont-Across the face,so you take your frustration out on a player from the opposing team.

Also,even though Horry started the altercation;rules are rules and not suspending Stoudemire and Diaw will open a dangerous can of worms.

Another thing,even though I hate going here with this;most of these altercations between the Utah series and this one,have been between a black and white player(even in the Nets-Cavs series).Why do you think that is?

I for one think that;some of these players are starting to look at this study(the racial bias study) with some validity.Half of them already believe that Nash and Dirk have been given the last 3 MVPs because they are white(even though,technically there not).That's just my theory,I'm not sure though.I just can't help but notice alot of these scuffles have been between black and white players;almost all of them.

BTW-I'm not sure how to take the Nash incident with Horry's elbow,due to the fact I'm not sure if you are joking or not.I will say I didn't catch it on first glance.

I did however,see Horry get fouled on his drive to the basket right before he sent Nash into the scorers table.

Anyways,Good Post.

Last edited by lyrikell on May 15th at 6:28 AM.

The_Dan
May 15, 2007
6:34 AM
You got to watch the best guard in the business clutch up in the end, and I am not taking about the East game. Horry may be suspended but if it was Parker or Duncan doing the same thing they would just get a fine. Passionate post.

DatSTAR
May 15, 2007
6:36 AM
man I don't think that Fisher is white but hey he did play in L.A. for a minute so it just might be a tan. Anyway, the Spurs are like that and everyone who was bashing Amare for saying what he said, needs to start calling him a soothsayer. And Horry knows damn well he was not going to get that call late in the game.

lyrikell
May 15, 2007
6:41 AM
BTW-I don't have a problem with the cheap shot either,just realize if Stoudemire and Diaw get suspended(which they should);you're done.

Also,that knee from Bowen;I'm sure was intentional but at the same time is a natural motion when a player is crowding you.Just like Nash waving off every defender with his off hand is.

Nash got away with clearing out 2 spurs players on a drive and kick late in the game and Steve Kerr had the nerve to draw a diagram of the play like it was a good legal move and not 2 potential offensive fouls in 1 play.

It is funny that basketball common sense goes out the window when people want to CRY for their team.

Datstar,why wouldn't he get the call;he's at home.Please I saw Wade get them exact calls all through the finals last year.

Also I said altercations not just fouls.Most of the hard fouls and altercations have been between black and white players.

Moore-Paplovich,Howard-Okur(Houston
series),Richardson-Okur,Horry-Nash,
Bowen-Nash.Do I need to continue?

BTW-AGAIN,the beginning of the Suns-Spurs game came on TBS and they notified anyone watching the Nets game on TNT.I'm not sure how you missed it.Let me guess possibly so distraught that you may potentially be missing the beginning of your beloved SUNS game and you went death and blind.

Actually,I was wrong the foul in question was on Ginobili drive to the basket and rebound attempt,then came Horry's shove.

Last edited by lyrikell on May 15th at 7:08 AM.

pumpdude
May 15, 2007
8:17 AM
Hey Ricko, nice post. I glad you have the temperment to be coy with this post. So many things I could say but I'll follow your lead. Sad you missed the pick-up on TBS. lol Did you remember to add oil back in after you drained it? Go Suns

lyrikell
May 15, 2007
8:19 AM
Damn,Ricko;I'm not sure if you saw but this should make you happy.

Jalen Rose was on First take not too long ago and mentioned that in the 2nd qrtr;after a foul and slight scuffle involving Elson,Duncan stepped off the bench.So the league will have to look into this as well.

Looks as if Stoudemire,Horry,Diaw and Duncan is subject to suspension.

ricko
May 15, 2007
8:53 AM
lyrikell: "Moore-Paplovich,Howard-Okur(Housto
n
series),Richardson-Okur,Horry-Nash,

Bowen-Nash.Do I need to continue?"

That depends. Do you think anyone is listening?

How 'bout Kobe and Bell? Oh wait, never mind.

Face it lyrikell. Your seasoned, playoff tested team had a ten point lead at home midway through the fourth quarter, and lost it to a team that is supposedly "soft" and "doesn't play any defense." On top of that, dare I say that D'Antoni out-coached the great Greg Popovich down the stretch?

I guess you are right. Defense wins championships. And I saw a case in point in the fourth quarter last night. And yes, I was joking about Nash trying to bite Horry's elbow. Glad I could help out and clarify that for you.

NachoOOOoO!
May 15, 2007
9:07 AM
lyrikell, how could you possibly believe that Bowen's knee was a natural basketball move? lol Better sit on your "deadly can of man eating worms" for a bit until the league decides what to do. Yes, we know you're just praying Amare will be suspended. This is the Spurs only chance to win game 5. LMAO

NachoOOOoO!
May 15, 2007
9:11 AM
By the way ricko, your post sounded just like my tv room last night. Screaming and yelling at the Suns players for leaving their men for open shots.

ricko
May 15, 2007
9:32 AM
It would be a shame if any suspension becomes the main story of the series, though. It has been an outstanding series so far.

ShooterB
May 15, 2007
9:48 AM
I hope they suspend Nash for attempting to bite Horry's elbow. Absolutely inexcusable. I've seen many fights start because of unnecessary elbow biting. Wait, maybe that was ankle biting.

Anyway...

As for the defense, I agree about Thomas. He has played Duncan pretty tough, but it doesn't seem to matter. And that's why Duncan is a consistent MVP candidate each and every year, he's just so difficult to stop...even if you do everything right on defense.

NachoOOOoO!
May 15, 2007
9:51 AM
Ha, Duncan left the bench too. If this is true, Suns would gladly take this trade. Lets see what the league says.

rampantfanatic
May 15, 2007
10:00 AM
ricko ......... I think that what this has generally amounted to has been the genrally pi$$ poor officiating thoughout not only this series. But the whole postseason as the officials have become all too inconsistent with regard to the standards of officiating throughout. It's carried over from the regular season right into the postseason itself. And Stern and Stu Jackson are most certainly to blame for the majority of this. However I do believe that they'd made a mistake in not suspending Bowen for his own flagrant foul on Nash in game 3.
And again as I said it all comes down to #### poor officiating.
I'd posted up my own observations in this regard titled Look I'm Not A Dirty Player It Only Appears That Way On Tv !
Check it out and let me know what you think ? It's posted under rampantfanatic guise.

rampant/tophatal ..............

ReverendRhythm
May 15, 2007
10:00 AM
I'm starting to like Nash's dry sense of humor.

In the post-game interview, when he told Sager he was "working on his guns?" That's good stuff, man.

Stern needs to have a forgiving heart and let Amare play in Game 5.

Otherwise, we'll have to talk Ricko off the ledge.

ShooterB
May 15, 2007
10:08 AM
Nash actually said he was working on his guns? That IS good stuff.

I guess I was wrong, Canadians can be funny.

ricko
May 15, 2007
10:24 AM
Yeah, they also asked him if he saw the altercation after he got hit. He said he was seeing stars.

Nooch
May 15, 2007
10:55 AM
Ricko,

Huge win for the Suns.

If they lose that game and go down 3-1, it's over. Big-time gut check, and they got it done when they needed to.

Those behind the back passes to Stoudamire late in the game were cool to watch.

Horry delivered a cheap shot, no doubt. I think Nash handled it pretty well after the game and basically joked about it.

Good luck to the Suns the rest of the way.

1steelerfan1
May 15, 2007
11:39 AM
Great wrap of the game Ricko. Just suspend Horry and I'll be happy. That next game is going to be even craaaaaaaaazier! Whew! Love this game! Nice job my friend.

bbing168
May 15, 2007
11:44 AM
Ricko, thanks for mentioning my name.

But the rules are the rules. Don't hate the rule, hate the persons who are stupid enough to break them.

I hate to see Amare and Diaw getting suspended, but the NBA must do that! Or else it's so not fair to all those other players who lost their chances at a ring because of similar situation.

And I know if Amare and Diaw get 1 game each, Horry will get 2 games. But it's so sad that the NBA is becoming so SOFT.

What Horry did was an absolutely ugly cheap shot. But so what? Nash wasn't hurt. He got up like a man and made his free throws.

But Suns fans and the NBA want extra protection for their GWH poster boy, Nash. It's sad that there is a double standard in the NBA now!

ricko
May 15, 2007
12:25 PM
bbing: "What Horry did was an absolutely ugly cheap shot. But so what? Nash wasn't hurt. He got up like a man and made his free throws.

But Suns fans and the NBA want extra protection for their GWH poster boy, Nash. It's sad that there is a double standard in the NBA now!"

Double standard? How?

I barely mentioned the incident in my blog. I simply said that was the Spurs chance to put the series away, and they blew it. I guess I'd be frustrated too, with losing to such a "soft" team at home, and all.

But now that you bring it up, at least Nash did act like a man, unlike Horry. And you criticized Amare and Diaw for wanting to protect their guy? If you wouldn't have done the same thing, I wouldn't want you on my team.

Last edited by ricko on May 15th at 12:27 PM.

Nostradomus
May 15, 2007
6:00 PM
Game 1: Nash uses his Nose to take on Parkers Forehead. Result? Nash has an unstoppable bleeding cut on his nose. Parker? Lays on the ground whining with nothing more than a bump on his head. WINNER: Nash.

Game 4. Nash gets tossed into the announcers table by a disgruntled Robert Horry. Result. Nash gets up, makes his free throws and the Suns now hold home court advantage. WINNER: Nash.

Steve Nash is now my hero. I've gained more respect for him in this series than his past 2 MVP awards. This guy has showed more heart and determination than I ever thought he had. Kudos Mr. Nash. And Kudos Suns. Now its time to finish the business.

But wait a minute! You have to do this without Amare and Diaw? Two of your biggest post men on an already 'soft' team? I'll take Steve Nash vs. the Spurs in game 5. Heck, I'll even give ya 5 points Spurs.

Game 5: WINNER: Steve Nash!

ricko
May 15, 2007
7:54 PM
Aw, shucks, Nostradomus. I knew you'd come around eventually . . .

Suns in six. Like I've said all along.

Oops. Had to edit "aroung" to make it "around." Hard to see with these purple-c o l o r e d glasses on.

Last edited by ricko on May 15th at 9:59 PM.

vearlthepearl
May 15, 2007
10:52 PM
Ricko...Mo is on the side of the Suns right now, yeah they got robbed by the league, but they will prevail and if they don't, the league will need a makeover because they will lose alot of fans!

evilquacks101
May 16, 2007
12:01 AM
Well here it is the best two out of three........It's really kind of pathetic that we have to have all of this added drama.

What will we have next? A Cage Match with Nash vs Manu Ginobili at center court! After third overtime in game seven.

These are two of my favorite teams........So I'll just sit up here on the fence where I have a better view.

rampantfanatic
May 16, 2007
1:27 PM
Rules are rules but put you can rest the blame squarely on the shoulders of the officials. As they've been #### poor when it comes to the officiating of these games in the postseason. They've become marginally worse than they are in the regular season. And while this has been going on all we can hear from Stern is that the officIals are doing a fine job. He reminds me of Bush after he commended the chief of FEMA as to the great job that he'd been doing prior to and after Katrina struck New Orleans. And we all know how well that went don't we ?

rampant/tophataL .........

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