Got Milk Part deux......
by: rampantfanatic
Usain Bolt ............Was He Really That Fast Or Was The Field That Bad ?
Jun 02, 2008 | 9:57AM | report this

The  Beijing  Olympics are a   little  more  than   two   months  away.  And   despite  the    conflicts  and    political   unrest  we  can  only   hope  that    this    piece   of   commercial   extravaganza  lives    up  to    all   the  hype   that  has  been   promised.

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Jamaica's Usain Bolt(C) crosses the finish line ahead of the USA's Tyson Gay(L) and Darvis Patton in the Men's 100m at the Reebok Grand Prix on May 31, 2008 in New York City. Bolt set a new world record, covering the distance in 9.72 seconds. AFP PHOTO/Hayden Roger CELESTIN (Photo credit should read Hayden Roger CELESTIN/AFP/Getty Images)

Usain  Bolt    of  Jamaica    wins   the   100m  in  a   world   record  time  of 9.72  shaving   4/100ths  of   the   previous  record   held   by  his    countryman   Asafa  Powell. Finishing   second  was  the  current    world  champion  at  100  and  200m  Tyson  G*ay    of   America  with   fellow  countryman  David  Patton   finishing   third.    picture   courtesy of  afp/getty  images/ Hayden  Roger  Celestin .............

On  Saturday   night  for those  of  you    who   weren't   aware.   The    100m    world   record     for   men  was  broken   by  a     21 year  old   Jamaican   by the  name  of   Usain  Bolt.    His  last    name    conjuring    up   no   doubt   exactly     what may  well  have   taken    place    on  the  track.  This  was   the   first      sprint   track    world   record    on   American  soil    since  the  Los  Angeles   Olympics.  Bolt    with    his    devastating    burst    of  speed    demolished   a    world   class    field    of   the    event's   top    stars.      And    though     it  can   be  said  that    his   inexperience   wasn't lacking.        It  doesn't  exactly      pose  a  sombering   thought   for    his opponents    with   the  Olympics     just   a    short    few   weeks   away.   

Photo 1 - Blanka Vlasic of Croatia competes in the women's high jump event... AFP/Getty Images

Blanka   Vlasic  of   Croatia   competes  in  the  women's   high    jump  at  the  ISTAF   Golden   League   at  the   Olympic  Stadium    in  Berlin ,  Germany.   picture  courtesy     afp/getty   images/   Michel   Pierollellot  .............

And  inasmuch   as     one   would  like  to  believe  that   the  US has   that   superiority  in   the   world    when   it  comes    to   track  and    field  when   it  comes  to  the  sprint  events.    It  appears  to be     no     longer  the  case. 

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Jamaica's Usain Bolt poses next to the clock after winning the Men's 100m at the Reebok Grand Prix on May 31, 2008 in New York City. Bolt set a new world record, covering the distance in 9.72 seconds. AFP PHOTO/Hayden Roger CELESTIN (Photo credit should read Hayden Roger CELESTIN/AFP/Getty Images)

The new  mark of   9.72  set    by Usain  Bolt   at  the Reebok  Grand  Prix  in  New  York  City  on  Saturday   night.     picture  courtesy  of  afp/getty  images/Hayden  Roger  Celestin........

The   world    class  facilities   are    here    without  a  doubt    but   the   athletes   are      no    longer  what   one   would   hope that   they'd  be.    If  anything  other  than   the  Olympics  itself     and    to a    lesser   extent  the   World   Championships.   Track  and    field   no    longer     holds   that   lore   or   grabs     the  attention   of  the  public  here    in    North  America.      But  there'll   be   an   unabashed      coverage   of  the   events    in   Beijing    , China   with   almost  every   story   being  an   emotive    one   when  it    comes    to the  athletes   there   from   the   United  States. 

LaShawn Merritt (R) of the US and his compatriot Jeremy Wariner compete in the men's 400m event of the ISTAF Golden League athletics meeting on June 1, 2008 at the Olympic Stadium in Berlin. Merritt won ahead of Wariner and Chris Brown (not in picture) of the Bahamas.    AFP PHOTO    DDP/AXEL SCHMIDT    GERMANY OUT (Photo credit should read AXEL SCHMIDT/AFP/Getty Images)

Lashawn   Merritt  of  the   United  States    finishes   ahead   of    his   fellow   countryman   Jeremy Warriner   the  current   World   and   Olympic   champion   in  the   400m.    The  even   was   the   ISTAF   Golden  League   meet   in  Berlin  , Germany.  picture  courtesy  of  afp/getty images/ Axel Schmidt  ......

And  whilst    I  wouldn't  be  the  first    to  decry   what's   wrong   with  the  state  of track  and    field  athletics.  I    must   admit  that  I'm   not totally  surprised   that  it's   not  given  the  sport  of   exposure  here  that  it   get   elsewhere   around the  world.    Cheating  and the    drug  and   steroid   issues    not   withstanding.  I    doubt    that      the    public   would  indeed    know   who    many  of  today's   top   stars   are    in   the  world  of  track  and    field  even    if  their     pictures   were    plastered     across     billboards    up  and    down   the    country.  The  sport      just   doesn't   garner     the   attention    it  once    did.   But  yet   thousands    of   scholarships     are   handed     out  each   year  to   promising    young   athletes   both   male and    female    whose     wish   someday    other  than    pursuing     an  education   is   to    compete   at the   highest    levels    of  the  sport.

BERLIN - JUNE 01:  Mike Hazle of the USA competes during the men's javelin at the IAAF Golden League ISTAF meet at the Olympic Stadium on June 1, 2008 in Berlin, Germany.  (Photo by Friedemann Vogel/Bongarts/Getty Images)

Mike  Hazel  of  the  United   States   competes  in  the  javelin  at  the  ISTAF Golden  League meet  in    Berlin   Germany.  picture  courtesy  of  bongarts/getty images/  Friederman   Vogel.......

There's  a  great   deal  of   money   that   can   be  made    but   it     pales    into   insignificance     when   measured   against   what   can  be  earned     in    the    other    major   sporting   endeavors      such    basketball,  football,  hockey  and    baseball.   But    there   are     some   athletes    that've been  able  to  make       a   living     competing   on   the   circuits   around  the  world.    The  strength   in  numbers  won't  be     lost   on  the  US  when   it sends   its  best   and   brightest  to   compete   in  the  summer  spectacle.   And  the   patriotism   shown    by  the  fans'll    no   doubt    be  there.  

(L-R) David Oliver of the US, Sergiy Demidyuk of the Ukraine and Dayron Robles of Cuba compete in the men's 110m hurdles event of the ISTAF Golden League athletics meeting on June 1, 2008 at the Olympic Stadium in Berlin. Oliver won the race, Robles placed second, Ryan Wilson of the US placed third.      AFP PHOTO    DDP/AXEL SCHMIDT    GERMANY OUT (Photo credit should read AXEL SCHMIDT/AFP/Getty Images)

David  Oliver   of  the   United   States  ekes   out  a  narrow  win   over  the  Cuban   Dayron  Robles  and   Sergeiy  Demediyuk  of  the Ukraine   in   the  110m  hurdles   event   held  at  ISTAF  Golden League  meet   in   Berlin   Germany.  picture  courtesy of     getty  images/ Axel  Schmidt  ..............

But as it  should   portend  to  the   sport   when   it's  not a  staple   for    the  fans   here   in  the   United  States.    It  can  be   said  that  it  doesn't  warrant     our  interest   one    iota.      But   the  coverage     that'll  be  dedicated     by  NBC  over   the    course  of the    Olympics   will  be  done   in such   a  way   that  it'll    play  on    our   emotions    and  to  all    our  most    sincere    of  needs.

Hussein Taher Al-Sabee of Saudi Arabia competes in the men's long jump event of the ISTAF Golden League athletics meeting on June 1, 2008 at the Olympic Stadium in Berlin. He won the competition ahead of Godfrey Mokoena of South Africa and Mohamed Al-Kuwailidi of Saudi Arabia.      AFP PHOTO    DDP/MICHAEL KAPPELER   GERMANY OUT (Photo credit should read MICHAEL KAPPELER/AFP/Getty Images)

Hussein Taher Al  Sabee  of  Saudi Arabia   wins   the  men's    long jump   at the  ISTAF Golden  League   meet   in   Berlin.    Al   Sabee  of    Saudi  Arabia    is  one  his    country's     only   true   world    class   athlete   in   track   and   field  and   is  considered one   the  favorites    in  the    event   at   the  upcoming   Olympics.  picture   courtesy  afp/getty  images/ Mickael  Kappeler  ..........

The  likes   of   Usain  Bolt   and   other   who   are    no  doubt   world   class  athletes  are   nothing   but   a   long   list   of   athletes    who'll   garner     our   attention   but   for  a   brief   moment   over  the     course  of  the    ensuing months.   The      Olympics    themselves    notwithstanding   ,  I doubt  that   once  the   events   have    come  and   gone    we'll    have  really     been   concerned    with  what  took   place .   Unless   there's    some     political    unrest  or     protests   along  the  way     that  it   warrants    our   attention.

Photo 1 - Sweden's Susanna Kallur (R) and Brigitte Foster-Hylton of Jamaic... AFP/Getty Images

Sweden's  Susanna  Kallur   earns  an   easy  victory   in  the    women's  100m  hurdles  over    Brigitte  Foster- Hylton  of  Jamaica  at  the  ISTAF    Golden  League   meet   in  Berlin.   picture  courtesy of  afp/getty images/bongarts.....

The  ideals     and  very   essence    of  what     the   games'    modern  day    founder   Pierre  de  Coubertin    had  wished  for .     Has    now been    lost  as it      has   become    nothing   more than    another     sporting    spectacle    bereft   of   any  integrity   and    high   moral    standards.   It   has if  anything   else    just    become    another   sporting   anathema     filled    with   nothing     more   than   commercialistic    values    and   very   little   else      !

rampant'     aka  tophatal  ......................

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MeanDovine
Jun 2, 2008
11:21 AM
Ramp, I'm hearing he was that fast! Plus, Tyson was in the field ...

Last edited by MeanDovine on June 2nd at 11:22 AM.

rampantfanatic
Jun 2, 2008
11:48 AM
Mean Dovine
What's astounding about this is that the 100m isn't even his best event. He considers himself to be an even better 200m and 400m runner. It'd be something else if he were able to pull of the double at the Olympics and at the same time make a stab at the 400m. But I think that he'll just go for the sprint double myself ! As that's where the glory is said to lie.



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Nostradomus
Jun 2, 2008
6:24 PM
Kid is an absolute freak. 21 years old, 6' 5", got out of the blocks ahead of Tyson, and then..........pulled away? Are you kidding me? Dominating victory. The sky is the limit for this kid. Read an article in the USA Today, and they are saying this kid has serious potential towards an unheard of 9.6. Plus his 'best' event is the 200, and he is now training for the 400. Still can't believe he is 6'5" and can run that fast of a 100. One of the most amazing things I have ever seen, and this kid is just scratching the surface of what he might be able to do.

Nostradomus
Jun 2, 2008
6:24 PM
Kid is an absolute freak. 21 years old, 6' 5", got out of the blocks ahead of Tyson, and then..........pulled away? Are you kidding me? Dominating victory. The sky is the limit for this kid. Read an article in the USA Today, and they are saying this kid has serious potential towards an unheard of 9.6. Plus his 'best' event is the 200, and he is now training for the 400. Still can't believe he is 6'5" and can run that fast of a 100. One of the most amazing things I have ever seen, and this kid is just scratching the surface of what he might be able to do.

rampantfanatic
Jun 2, 2008
10:02 PM
Nostradomus
Freaks of nature come along like this but once every decade or so. The last person who sent these sort of seismic waves across the sport was Michael Johnson.
And since then there's been absolutely no one that has come close until now !

The unfortunate thing for the public is that once the games are over we won't take much interest in him or the sport as a whole. It's not given the exposure it deserves and at the same time the USATF has been slow in dealing with the drug problems that've plagued the sport here in the US in particular.

It's been the lunatics running the asylum in the case of the athletes. Hence the reason why the public here in the US no longer really takes any real interest in the sport domestically or internationally.



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aero13
Jun 3, 2008
9:48 AM
I would just like to say nice job Al. I'm looking forward to the track & field events now.

rampantfanatic
Jun 3, 2008
10:25 AM
aero13
I'm also looking forward to the Olympics. But I've got to say that these aren't the same type of games that I use to enthuse over years ago.

It's now become too commercialized and a great deal of the integrity has gone out of the games. But still there'll be something there for all of us to enjoy no doubt !




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texasbagger
Jun 3, 2008
11:05 AM
Usain Bolt
Says he is better at the 200 and the 400 but his performance doesn't reflect it. He has only competed in the 100m 6 times or so and has already set the WR. Revelation perhaps to switch from the 200/400m to the 100/200m.

As for Wariner/ Merrit consistency is key. I think only Michael Johnson has run 400m in sub 44sec. more times than Wariner. He also has been dealing with hamstring problems. If Merrit beat him running sub 44 then I am impressed if not then it doesn't really mean much on the grander scale. To beat Wariner at the Trials and at the Olympics will take a sub 44 which means the guy to run it will have to be at peak performance to do what Wariner does almost every time out and that's run sub 44.

texasbagger
Jun 3, 2008
11:11 AM
Also I still beleive the US has the best sprinters in the world from 100 to 400m. The only other competition are 2 guys from Jamaica Asafa and Bolt who are essentially just filler in the 200m finals and in the case of Bolt in the 400m.

The only race where they are really a threat to win is the 100 and that race is so short that any number of factors can effect who wins from one day to the next.

rampantfanatic
Jun 3, 2008
11:27 AM
texasbagger
What's being lost in all of this is the age of this kid. He's only 21 years of age . How many kids do you know that've been prolific as this age and have yet to meet their full potential ?

That's what's being lost here and you yourself don't seem to have taken that into account. Personally I believe that he should just stick to the sprint double. And he'll no doubt be asked to run the relay leg quite possibly in the 4x400m for Jamaica. As well as compete in the 4x100m as well.




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rampantfanatic
Jun 3, 2008
11:31 AM
texasbagger
That may well be the case with regard to the sprints . But as so often can happen is how one is affixed on the day of the competition that'll really count.

So don't count your chickend before all of their eggs have been hatched. Once a fox gets into the henhouse then anything is possible. And at this juncture it's not just Powell and Bolt that the US'll have to worry about.




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SRMgenius
Jun 3, 2008
11:34 AM
Did you hear about the relay team including Michael Johnson returning their medals because one of the runners admitted to doping...With all the the American's who have been nailed for doping, especially Olympic runners, I wonder if the US was ever really dominant. Have we been dominant in anything other than basketball which is no longer the case? Baseball is somewhat considered America's sport, and the Mitchell report destroyed all of those "heroes". My question to you and anyone else who wants to answer, who are, will be, and have been our true American sports heroes? Are there any left?

JOKERSWILD
Jun 3, 2008
11:48 AM
Top- great scribble and that dude would make mercury gasp for air hes that quick.!!!!!!

texasbagger
Jun 3, 2008
11:57 AM
I see the 200m as a 1-2-3 finish for the US in the Olympics regardless of who makes the team. The difference between the 100 and the 200 is the time to recover if a mistake is made.

As for his age yeah, it's impressive but it's not like his speed and strength in the race will continue to improve with age just because. There are so many mitigating circumstances that can occur: fatigue, overtrain, injury, virus.

The key in track and field is consistency. This is really the first time he has stepped up and won a big race it just happened to be a WR and he has been competing in the pros for a while now. Tyson #### and Asafa Powell are consistently 1-2 where as Bolt has been all over the place.

We'll see what happens the next time he races.

rampantfanatic
Jun 3, 2008
12:19 PM
texasbagger
Bolt has only been racing top flight for the past two years if that. The experience is on the sides of Powell and G*ay. But it's how one peaks in the run up to the Olympics that'll predicate what may well happen. What's best for him to do now is to get his technique down pat and not race too often between now and the beginning of the games. The trials for the Jamaican team is coming up and no doubt he's already a shoo in for a berth on the team.

And as to a US 1-2-3 in the 200m once again you're counting your chickens before they're hatched.
It's never as predictable as you think.

rampant' aka tophatal ...........

rampantfanatic
Jun 3, 2008
12:29 PM
SRMgenius
The athlete in question was Antonio Pettigrew who was a known associate of Trevor Graham whose since been indicted by the Feds for perjury as well as trafficking in narcotic and the distribution of steroids. That ought to tell you all you need to know.


antonio.pettigrew

Disgraced Olympic athlete Antonio Pettigrew who admitted knowingly taken steroids as well as HGH when he competed .

However his sentence is not as harsh as first thought. As it'd appear that he's also cooperating with the Feds to name names.



Johnson is a class act and has always decried the use of illecit substances within the sport. And is an outspoken advocate against its use.




rampant' aka tophatal ............

rampantfanatic
Jun 3, 2008
12:35 PM
JOKERSWILD
What seems to be lost on a great many people is that the kid is only 21 years of age and has yet to reach his full potential. That's what's so staggering in all of this.

We've not seen anyone with this sort of allround ability in men's athletics since Michael Johnson was at his peak.


rampant' aka tophatal ...........

NiqueD
Jun 3, 2008
12:38 PM
Tophatal,

During our power outage my dad drug out a battery operated radio from the garage and news and sports radio is mostly what we listened to for two days.

This 100M guy one show said took 42 steps compared to the second place's 45 steps. Now if you're tall AND fast it seems like 42 steps is going to get you there faster than 45 steps. LOL\

You're right. I'm looking forward to the Olympics but I never heard of any of the people you put up pictures of. You almost make me feel guilty but it's not like we're exposed to any of these people if you're not a diehard fan right?

Last edited by NiqueD on June 3rd at 12:39 PM.

texasbagger
Jun 3, 2008
3:27 PM
The twins Calvin and Alvin Harrison (if I remember correctly) were the other 2 members of the 4 x 400 that ran in the finals. They 2 also got caught doping later on which brings to question if they were clean at that time. I think there was also an alternate who ran some of the qualifying heats for them that also tested positive named JErome Young.

So 4 out of the 5 guys probably cheated. 2 for sure and in all liklihood the twins just didn't get caught.

texasbagger
Jun 3, 2008
3:30 PM
BTW WR 4 x 400 2:54.2
Jerome Young
Antonio Pettigrew
Tyree Washington
Michael Johnson

hmm?????

slshusker
Jun 4, 2008
8:38 AM
Bolt beat the clock, not the field. Unfortunately, with all the drugs and accusations, we're suspecting of any records broken.
WADA will be testing Olympic athletes using tests not known until the Olumpics. This will be interesting. I hope we don't see cheating like Chia pulled entire sports teams out so they wouldn't be caught cheating.

As for sprinters, it's been open to anyone for a decade. The Jamaicans have consistently put a strong group together. There are plenty of great sprinters on the Islands, Mon!
---retired sprinter

rampantfanatic
Jun 4, 2008
9:02 AM
slshusker
Jamaica has been producing great sprinters over varying distances for the last forty years plus. But it's now gotten to the stage where they're a serious threat as to the so called dominance of the United States at verious levels from the 100m, 200m and 400m .

What has been staggering however is the very fact of the age of this kid. At 21 he's got a long career ahead of him if that is he doesn't step over to the Dark Side and the use of illecit substances.

As to the Olympics themselves I'm somewhat now distrustful of the ideals that it once had. It's now become nothing more than a commercialized venture and another pulpit for propoganda for many of the countries that participate andmost certainly for the country that hosts it.

And that was the primary reason that IOC Chairman Jacques Rogge made sure that China was availed the responsibility of hosting the event. It was politically expedient they felt for them to do so. Had the Olympics been awared to an Arab country then there would've been an even bigger outcry !




rampant' aka tophatal ............


Last edited by rampantfanatic on June 4th at 9:03 AM.

vmfan
Jun 4, 2008
9:20 AM
Here is something I am really curious about... I found this story about world record progression...

http://www.sports-moments.com/other
/

And I wondered... WHERE is the LIMIT? I mean, how fast can men run, what is the time that it would be unbreakable?!?

rampantfanatic
Jun 4, 2008
9:39 AM
vmfan
Man has always likened himself to wanting to achieve the impossible. Whether it means being stronger or faster. What matters is how one goes about achieving that success. In this day and age where cheating has become acceptable in the eyes of many and contemptable to others.

Who can say when we'll determine when enough is enough ?

The one thing I'll commend is if the records are being achieved legitimately then I for one have no problem with it.


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rampantfanatic
Jun 4, 2008
10:53 AM
Nique
This may well be before your time but there are two athletes that Bolt reminds me of. And they are Michael Johnson and former world record holder for the 400m hurdles Edwin Moses. Both were terrific athletes and as physical specimens they were unsurpassed in their chosen field.

johnson.michael

Multiple Olympic champion and world record holder Michael Johnson.



edwin.moses Double Olympic champion and the greatest high hurdler ever ! Ed Moses .......



These two epitomized what track and field was about and are perhaps this country's greatest ambassadors for the sport that are still living.


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Last edited by rampantfanatic on June 4th at 10:54 AM.

rampantfanatic
Jun 4, 2008
11:43 AM
texasbagger
I wasn't surprised by any of this. As once it came down to the fact that their trainer Trevor Graham had been indicted for perjury. All of this cr*ap was sure to come out one way or another. Now it makes much of what the US has achieved over the years somewhat suspect.

And at the same time the USATF have been somewhat reluctant to step up to the plate and deal harshly with the athletes that are known to have cheated. It smacks of stupidity on their part when they're decrying other countries of not doing enough to stamp out the use of illecit substances within the sport.


Can we not say how asinine this has all become. Is it any wonder there's no real interest in the sport in N America until the Olympics come about ? Hell women's gymnastics if anything is more popular now than track and field.




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rampantfanatic
Jun 4, 2008
11:47 AM
texasbagger
That's right probably four out of the give on the 4x400m relay did cheat. But what about the other international events held prior to those Olympics ? This is the dirty little secrer that just keeps on ticking and won't go away at all.



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evilquacks101
Jun 4, 2008
11:08 PM
Al- "That was really fast" and the clock doesn't lie.

Now you went and got me thinking about the Olympics already...............Well I guess it is about as commercial as it gets. But I still can feel the patriotic spirit from when I was a kid.

I'll be watching for Usain Bolt and company you can count on that.

justanotherfan
Jun 5, 2008
9:22 AM
evilquacks101
The Olympics itself will either lead to being one great spectacle of fun and excitement . Ot it'll just end up being one great center for drama and political intrigue and propoganda.

At this juncture it's bound to be a toss up between all of the scenarios mentioned.
Never mind the fact that the athletes themselves will definitely have to be on their very best behavior.
No political outspokenness will be tolerated whatsoever by the Chinese under any format or circumstance.


justan' aka tophatal ...........

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