Got Milk Part deux......
by: rampantfanatic
All That Glitters Is Not Gold .............The Boston Celtics !
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It says   much as  to  the  praise   being  heaped   upon  the  Boston  Celtics   during   the  regualar  season.    They  were   by  far the   best   team   in  the  NBA   during   the    82  game  season   .   But   their    postseason    play    does   nothing  to   suggest    that   what   was   evident   has   manifested   itself    in   the  postseason.     if  anyting  the've    been  a   caricature   of   that   highly   entertaining   team   that   many    were   in  awe      during   the   regular  season.  

CLEVELAND - MAY 10:  Kevin Garnett #5 (C) and Ray Allen #20 (R) of the Boston Celtics look on from the bench late in the fourth quarter against the Cleveland Cavaliers in Game Three of the 2008 NBA Eastern Conference Semifinals on May 10, 2008 at the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this photograph, User is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright: 2208 NBAE  (Photo by Jesse D. Garrabrant/NBAE/Getty Images)

Kevin  Garnett  and   Ray  Allen   of   the  Boston  Celtics    look   on  as   minutes   wind   down  during  the   closing   moments  of   the   fourth   quarter of  the   team's    loss  to  the  Cleveland  Cavaliers.      The  108-84   loss  was   the   team's   most   lopsided  in   postseason   play  thus  far.      picture  courtesy  of   nbae/getty  images/ Jesse D  Garrabant..

Suffering  a  humiliating    lopsided   loss    to   the   Cleveland  Cavaliers  would   suggest   the  hype    over  the   Celtics    was   exaggerated.   They've  yet  to   win    away   from    home  during  the   postseason.  And   that   in    of   itself    ought   to   suggest    that  this    team   is   far  from    where   their   coach   Glen  'Doc'  Rivers    thinks   that  they    ought  to  be  at  this     juncture.    The   great   teams    that've   won   championships    have    known   how    to  win   big    at  home   as well  as   away   from   home.   That's   something  that    has   been   evading    this    Boston  Celtics'   team   this    postseason.    Problems   started    with  their   first  round  series   with  the   Atlanta   Hawks  and    though  they   ended up  winning   the   series    4-3.     It was   felt   that   they  took  their   first   round   opponents  far  too    lightly.      In   the   Eastern  Conference    semi   finals    series   it'd     would     appear   that  they've   still    not   learnt   from  their   mistakes.

CLEVELAND - MAY 10:  LeBron James #23 of the Cleveland Cavaliers looks to pass against the Boston Celtics in Game Three of the 2008 NBA Eastern Conference Semifinals on May 10, 2008 at the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this photograph, User is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright: 2208 NBAE  (Photo by Jesse D. Garrabrant/NBAE/Getty Images)

LeBron   James    looks    to   make    a  pass    whilst    evading  the   defensive  play of   two   Celtics' players.     picture   courtesy  of   nbae/getty  images/ Jesse D  Garrabant  .......

Though   the  Celtics    now  lead   the   seven  game   series    2-1     they've     yet   to   post   an   away  from   home   victory    this    postseason.  That    most   certainly    isn't  what  is  expected    from  an   allegedly   great   team.  But  then   in  this    day  and    age    how   does   one   equate   greatness  ,     winning   ?      At    home    the    team   would    appear   to  be   invincible     but    away    from  the   TD  Bankone  Center   in  Boston    they're   as     susceptible   to  being   defeated  as  they  come.       It   were  as  if    two    differing    teams     were    stepping    out    unto   the   court      at    home   and   then  away   from    home.    That   now   has   to  be    a  perplexing   situation    for   the  Boston   Celtics'    fan   who  are   now  seeing   their   team    play    somewhat     inconsistently    during  the   postseason.      Their   triumvirate  of  stars    notwithstanding    this   team  can't  seem   to   find   an   identity  that  feel   comfortable   with    this    postseason. 

Boston Celtics' Rajon Rondo (9) gets inside Cleveland Cavaliers' Ben Wallace (4) for a shot in the third quarter of Game 3 of the NBA basketball Eastern Conference semifinals Saturday, May 10, 2008, in Cleveland. Cleveland won 108-84.   

Cletics' point   guard   Rajon   Rondo    gets   the   better   of   Cavaliers' defender  Ben   Wallace.     picture   courtesy  of  ap/photos/ Mark  Duncan  ............

Garnett  ,  Allen  and    Pierce    have   led   the   team   with  authority    in  the   regular   season   but   it'd  appear  that  the   postseason   seems   to  have  left   them   somewhat   lacking   in   part.   Defensively   last   night     they   were     unable   to   keep     James   or  his   teammate   Delonte   West    in    check   as they   had    their   way  with   this  team.   And    James     himself   would     show    some   of    his    defensive    prowess on  several   occasions.    It  was    a   complete   nightmare  for   the    Doc  Rivers'   coached   team    that   seemed    very    ill    disciplined    and   completely      out  of    touch    in  the  atmospshere   of     Cleveland's     home  arena    and  fans.    It   were   as  if  they   were   somehow    intimidated   by   this   all  ?      The   great    teams    know   how    to   win    be  it  at   home   or    on   the   road.     But   at   this    juncture    it  seems  to  be    that   the   Celtics   prefer   to  learn   this  particular    the   hard   way     during   the    postseason.  

CLEVELAND - MAY 10: Fans of the Cleveland Cavaliers cheer enthusiastically as their team beats the Boston Celtics in Game Three of the Eastern Conference Semifinals during the 2008 NBA Playoffs at The Quicken Loans Arena on May 10, 2008 in Cleveland, Ohio. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and/or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2008 NBAE (Photo by David Liam Kyle/NBAE via Getty Images)

Cavaliers'   fans   show  their    raucous  approval   having   just  defeated    the  Boston  Celtics   in    game   3 of  their   Eastern  Conference   semi   finals  series.   The Celtics   though  still   lead  the  series   2-1  in  the   best   of    seven   series.    picture    courtesy  of     nbae/getty  images/ David Liam Kyle ...........

The   Cavaliers    for   theit   part    are    out  to   prove  as Eastern   Conference   champions  that last   season's   appearance   in   the  NBA  finals   wasn't   a  fluke.     And   although  they   succumbed    to    the    stellar    play   of   the  San  Antonio    Spurs  in  a    four  game   sweep    in  the  Finals   itself.    It   can   be  said   that   this   time  around    the   team   want to    prove   to  the  league   that   they'r e  back  and   as  a    legitimate   contender    for  the   title   itself.    James   and    teammate   Delonte   West   more    than   held     their   own   against    the    Celtics.     West  if  anything  was     imposing    and    his   play   was beyond   what   many    may   have    thought  West   capable  of.     But  then   again    those   who've    witnessed    his   maturation     would    certainly    know   what   he's   capable   when    given  the  chance    to   show      his     undoubted    skills.  

CLEVELAND - MAY 10:  Delonte West #13 of the Cleveland Cavaliers drives for a shot attempt against Kevin Garnett #5 of the Boston Celtics in Game Three of the 2008 NBA Eastern Conference Semifinals on May 10, 2008 at the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this photograph, User is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement.  (Photo by Gregory Shamus/Getty Images)

Delonte  West   of  the  Cleveland   Cavaliers  attempts  to  shoot    over the   outsretched  arms   of   defender   Kevin   Garnett  of     the   Boston  Celtics.    West   led    all    scorers   with  21 points    7 rebounds,  5  assissts.  And   he    complemented   James    and his   teammates  his   consummate  allround   play.        picture   courtesy  of   getty  images/ Greg  Shamus  .............. 

It   was   an   allround   effort    from   the  team   and    though   they   still   behind   2-1  in  the  series.   It   can  be    said  that    it   gives    the   Cavaliers     renewed     confidence   against   the   Boston   Celtics.      And   for    the   Celtics   for    the  second    time    during    the    postseason   their    presence     and   authority    once   again   comes    into   question.   They     underestimated    a  previous     foe  and   were    found   wanting    only  to   show     that   they   could   acquit    themselves  .     But    they     were     pushed     closer   to   the     limits  than   they'd     like   to  have   been  .    This   time    around       with   the  Cavaliers     it's   a  chance    that   they   can     ill   afford   to have     repeated  .      Second   chances    when     given     ought  to  be    readily    accepted   and   taken.      Not    doing   so   tends   to  have    its     consequences     for     a  team .      

CLEVELAND - MAY 10:  Delonte West #13 and Wally Szczerbiak #10 of the Cleveland Cavaliers celebrate a play against the Boston Celtics in Game Three of the 2008 NBA Eastern Conference Semifinals on May 10, 2008 at the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and or using this photograph, User is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement.  (Photo by Gregory Shamus/Getty Images)

 West and   teammate   Wally  Szcerbiak    celebrate  the  culmination  of   a   play   against  the Celtics    in  the   third  quarter    of    game  three   played   at  the   Quicken  Loans Arena    in   Cleveland,  Oh.    picture    courtesy  of    getty  images/  Gregory  Shamus  ..............

The  anticipation   for    the   Cavaliers'   fans   must   be    high    at   this    juncture.    But   it  can  be  said   if    Cleveland     is     pull    equal    in  the  series    and   even   win  the   series     outright.   Then   they'll   have   to    prove   themselves    the   equal   of   their   more  experienced    opponents    in  terms    of  roster    play  and   prowess.    We've   seen   the    glimpses  of     potential     as   to   both   team's     play.     But   they've     both    yet   been   able   to    maintain   that    consistency   over   a  prolonged     period .     If   either   are   able   to   do  that   then   we   may   well  see   the   makings    of    classic    series      unfold.    And    that   at   the   end   of   day   is all   the   fan  can   ask    for.         At   least  amongst   the    purists  of    the  game   .

rampant'  aka    tophatal  ..................

 

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TheSizzle
May 11, 2008
10:03 AM
you got a typo:

"They've yet to win away from during the postseason."

it's not that the celtics are bad, it's just that the cavs are that good.

but you'll never be able to bring yourself to give the cavs any credit as much as you hate them huh?

baaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........
..

rampantfanatic
May 11, 2008
11:21 AM
The Sizzle
Doesn't anyone read anythiing anymore where have I said that I hated the Cavaliers ? I'm making observations and giving an opinion. I've not stated that the Celtics aren't good. Perhaps you ought not to make rash opinions. That's something the unintelligent tend to do rather than reading an op-ed piece before coming to a conclusion.


rampant aka tophatal ...........

TheSizzle
May 11, 2008
11:23 AM
and please don't you be trying to say that lebron is playing any defense.

noone is going to buy that.

TheSizzle
May 11, 2008
11:28 AM
if i were a little smarter i might think that you were calling me unintelligent.

you are entitled to your opinion just as i am entitled to my tophat. and even though you don't spell it out in your piece (your "dislike" toward cleveland) it is obvious in your work that there is a very strong bias against the organization.

have a nice day.

rampantfanatic
May 11, 2008
12:19 PM
The Sizzle
You couldn't fathom an opinion if it were staring you in the faace. I've no bias against the Celtics or Cavs either way. It's not stated in the piece anywhere. If you'd taken time to read the piece in its entirety instead of jumping to conclusions then you might've gleaned something. Like a politician you tend to only want assign reason or seek a disagreement if an opinion difffers from your's.

Tell me where in this piece it states a bias towards either franchise ? It appears that you can't . I value an opinion when it can be substantiated and thus far you've not done so .

rampant' aka tophatal ......

rampantfanatic
May 11, 2008
12:33 PM
The Sizzle
I doubt that you'd feel that way if James were playing on your team ? But then as James not playing any defense . One might summize that last night's display was just an aberration ?
But then again it's how one view the game and the strategies played out for all to see.



rampant' aka tophatal ............

slshusker
May 11, 2008
2:45 PM
At this point it looks like Boston is going to use home court to win each series in 7!

It wasn't that Boston was bad last night.
The Cavs were great, except for LeBron's offense, which failed to appear again.

ATTITUDE70
May 11, 2008
3:20 PM
I don't think I've ever seen a team that was SO dominant at home and SO mediocre on the road...especially being a number one seed. Makes for an interesting conclusion to the eastern conference finals. Detroit must be licking their chops....

Spurcse
May 11, 2008
3:38 PM
Rampart, don't want to criticize, but please that font is so small I can barely read it. Could you use an easier font to read. Please































































































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TheSizzle
May 11, 2008
4:21 PM
tophat,

i couldn't understand about 33% of the words in your last 2 comments so i guess you are right after all.

i actually left the original comment before you had posted the bottom two thirds of this post.

the only thing i COULD do was jump to conclusions and formulate an opinion which i couldn't fathom if he were staring me dead in the eyes with the thousand yard stare.

i could certainly go back through the archives and shove many many comments tapped out by you that shone the cleveland cavaliers basketball organization in a derogatory ramifications.

but i don't have time or energy for that right now.

i guess i was speaking more to you than i were to the piece.

peace, and chicken grease........

ReverendRhythm
May 11, 2008
4:42 PM
While pundits may say, all the Celtics need to keep doing is winning every home game, I feel you on this one.

I think we all expected more.

BleedPRPL&GLD
May 11, 2008
7:39 PM
Buck Foston.




LAKERS IN JUNE.

rampantfanatic
May 11, 2008
9:03 PM
BleedPRPL&GLD
The way that the Celtics are playing I think they'll be in for a rude awakening if they don't get their act in order. They're being foolhardy at present and it could very well come back to bite 'em in the #### . If they can't close out on the road then how the hell do they think that they'll be able to deal with the likes of Detroit let alone any of the teams that they could end up meeting should they get to the Finals ?
The great teams know how to win at home and on the road !


rampant' aka tophtal ......

rampantfanatic
May 11, 2008
9:11 PM
slshusker
West really impressed me with his game and the authority that he showed. Certainly not something that I'd have been prepared to say about prior to the game.
Now let's see if James can lead this team with authority at the same I'm hoping that Wallace can show something else within his repertoire rather than just standing there a lot of the time and contributing very little to the team as a whole. He's regressed as a player since those lofty heights of being in Detroit !






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rampantfanatic
May 11, 2008
9:17 PM
The Sizzle
I think you're mistaken in the criticims of the organization. I've never been derogatory in that regard. I've questioned their judgement and that of the ownership at great length. But never have I used any derogatory terms to describe them. That's not how I for one go about doing things.




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rampantfanatic
May 11, 2008
10:10 PM
Reverend Rhythm
The good teams know how to win in the postseason. But the great teams know how to win big at home and on the road. To date all the Celtics have shown me is that they can win at home but on the road they're just plain mediocre. And if they should make to the NBA finals. Their western counterparts aren't going to be so obliging at all !


rampant' aka tophatal ..........

StevoinHTown
May 12, 2008
7:31 AM
Goin' into da play-offs, I thought the Celtics would win it all...I don't think so now...By virtue of their conferences..The West has continuously had to play at a higher intensity than the East just to get in the play-offs and atda enda da day, that fact is gonna surface come Finals time..regardless of the Celts opponent...assumin' they git there..Champs'll come from the West.

kellyscott
May 12, 2008
7:46 AM
very simple!!!! if you score more points at the end of the game you win!!!! stupid thing to say yes!!!! but no matter who you are or your team is... why i love sports now more than ever!!!! you might hate like sin a team... but take the time to just sit back and watch the talent they have and enjoy the game (FOR ONCE)!!!! i think we as fans dont really enjoy the game as we should(no matter what sport it is) we get so caught up in the winning or losing we miss out!!!!

rampantfanatic
May 12, 2008
10:20 AM
kelly scott
We'll laud teams such as the Celtics in the regular season and prounounce them as unstoppable. But when they disappoint as they have done thus far what ought we to make of it all ?
They've struggled on the road and though the Cavaliers have played well. The Celtics themselves have fallen into the belief that they're entitled to go unchallenged within the Eastern Conference. At least that's the belief by the majority of their fans. They're in for a rude awakening if they can't get their act together.



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rampantfanatic
May 12, 2008
10:24 AM
Spurcse
I'll bear that in mind next time around but I can't make you andy definite promises.
Suffice to say that the Celtics are not what many of us believed them to be at this juncture.

I've alluded to this before the great teams know how to win at home and on the road. This Celtics' team in its present incarnation doesn't do it predecessors any justice at all. They're a shell of a team as it now stands even with the likes of Garnett, Pierce and Allen on it.

rampant' aka tophatal .........

rampantfanatic
May 12, 2008
10:33 AM
The Sizzle
SteveoinHTown
Reverend Rhythm
slshuker
BLEEDPRPL&GLD
kelly scott
Spurcse






bird-parish


The Celtics' triumvirate of Bird, Parish and McHale would do whatever it took to win. The Ceitics' present incarnation of that trio has yet to measure up . And until they do they'll only be ever thought of as being something akin to good regular season team.





allen_pierce

Waiting to create something but they just don't know how to accomplish it. But winning it all would most certainly help at this juncture !


rampant' aka tophatal ..........


Last edited by rampantfanatic on May 12th at 10:35 AM.

rampantfanatic
May 12, 2008
10:39 AM
SteveoinHTown
They're still capable of winning it all but they've got to learn how to win on the road in the postseason. They ought to consider themselves lucky that they're not playing in the Western Conference. Or they might well have been at home watching the remainder of the playoffs at this juncture.



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rampantfanatic
May 12, 2008
11:01 AM
ATTITUDE 70
Somewhere along the way the Celtics left their will to win on the road. But it's a testament to the Cavaliers however who've fought themselves back into the series and are prepared it'd appear to make a contest of it. As to how the rest of the series'll unfold is open to question. But at this juncture to an extent it rests in the hands of the Celtics themselves and how they're prepared to go about proving many of us that we're wrong in our assumptions of them. In the case of James if he can lead the Cavs back from the brink of defeat and into the conference finals. Then I for one will see him in a new light. He's a great player and has years ahead of him to show us just how greater he can become. The winning of an NBA championship would certainly go a long way in justifying the belief that many already have in him.


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NiqueDodson
May 12, 2008
2:51 PM
I think the one thing that is overlooked with the Celtics big 3 is while all have extensive playoff experience none have extensive playoff experience winning. No finals among the three.

Great blog.

CurlyMo
May 12, 2008
5:20 PM
I've said from the beginning that it was asking too much for a group of guys who have never played a single season together to suddenly win the NBA title. The Celtics are going to fall to the Cavs like I said all along. They're lucky LeBron couldn't find the bucket in games 1 and 2 or this would be over before the weekend.

rampantfanatic
May 12, 2008
5:48 PM
Nique
With experience comes wisdom and the Celtics' triumvirate have a great deal of that. But unfortunately what they also lack is real postseason leadership and that's what they're now lacking.
Suffice to say of they can't cut it now then they'll not fare too well.

The Cavs did what was needed to make the remainder of the series a rather intriguing one for the fans as well as the general public.




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rampantfanatic
May 12, 2008
5:58 PM
Curly Mo
That's indeed true of LeBron and how good he's been. But it also tells me that his teammates haven't stepped up to the plate often enough. We only saw fruition of this come to the fore until Delonte West showed his prowess.

But what about the likes of Ilgauskas and others that were meant to be players that are meant to be stepping up to the plate ?





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