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Kobe's Retort
Jun 24, 2008 | 11:27AM | report this

So the Big Fella got me, I’m still a ring short

But I’m the one that’s still gettin it done on the court

See I still got time, cuz I’m 29

But for the Big Has-Been it’s the end of the line

He big, he’s slow, he’s dumb and 36

And his last two rings came with the help of a fix

And we also all know what Shaq can’t do

See, Shaq can’t win without a Hall of Fame 2

That’s right, Shaq can’t win without a Hall of Fame 2

 

 

 

Last time I checked, I was the league MVP

While Shaq was watching me on his flat-screen TV

See, I led my team to a #1 seed

While Shaq led his to the worst mark in the league

But he couldn’t be a man and share the blame

So he trashed his own team and put ‘em all to shame

And once again he proved what he can’t do

That’s right, Shaq can’t win without a Hall-of-Fame 2

Shaq can’t win without a Hall-of-Fame 2

 

 

 

And so Shaq bailed and let the bad aura linger,

While pledging to the Suns to put a ring on their finger

But instead he went out meekly in round number one

And just like that, his promise was done

So join me now in raising a glass

And raise right up the fat ####’s ####

Because we all know what Shaq can’t do

Shaq can’t win without a Hall-of-Fame 2

That’s right Shaq can’t win without a Hall-of-Fame 2

14 Comments | Add a comment   categories: Shaquille O’Neal, Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers, Phoenix Suns, Miami Heat, Dwyane Wade, NBA, NBA Playoffs
 
Um... Shaq is going to WHICH team??
Feb 06, 2008 | 1:09AM | report this
I knew the Pau Gasol trade caused ripples throughout the NBA, but I did not foresee it scaring the bejeezus out of teams as it apparently has done to the Suns. As rumor has it, Shaq is going to Phoenix for Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks. I'm still trying to wrap my brain around this.

As far as the Suns front office goes, I can understand why they think they'd need to do this on the surface. But for every seemingly valid reason, I can't help but doubt it in the end.

1) Nash is 34 (as of tomorrow) and his window is closing.
     Yes, Nash is getting older and his back is some reason for concern. However, his output would seem to indicate otherwise. His PER almost identical to the last three years, two of which he won the MVP. If you look at the overall picture, he's actually IMPROVED with age. His window seems to still be wide open.
2) Amare isn't a center and getting a true center will save him the fouls he gets at the C position.
    Maybe. But I'm not sure. I think the logic is good, but the player is wrong. Shaq is a foul machine himself (1 foul every 7 minutes). If anything, I wonder if Amare will have to not only make up for Shaq's defensive limitations to come over to block shots, but also recover for whoever Shawn Marion would have been guarding. Marion is an overrated defender, but he's still better than Grant Hill and Boris Diaw. Shaq has always been susceptible to the pick and roll, and teams know this. Getting Shaq out top fully defeats the purpose of acquiring him to plug up the lane. If they got him to counter Bynum, good luck. Bynum's most effective rolling hard and quick to the cup - exactly what Shaq is not. If they got him to counter Duncan, frankly, Timmy has owned Amare AND Shaq in the post. Shaq's just not the defensive presence he used to be and I don't see him helping Amare that much. Instead, now they're below average defensively at 4 of the 5 positions (only Raja is above average and he's replaced by Barbosa, who, as a 1 on 1 defender is average at best). This will have to be a gambling team, hoping to create turnovers off of steals. Those kinds of teams don't generally make it far in the playoffs.
3) The playoffs are a halfcourt style game, where the game slows down and big men are a premium. Thus as currently constructed, a title is out of reach so the risk is worth it.
   
So, the system that has made you so successful is going to be abandoned? This team won 60+ games the last two years, is on pace for another 60(ish), and made the Western Conference finals two of the last 3 years, and probably should have been in the finals last year (ahem, Robert Horry). I've heard it argued that Shaq will be the inbounder and you don't need 5 guys to run a break. Ok, well, first I find it amusing that it's automatically assumed they'll be INBOUNDING the ball and not REBOUNDING the ball. Anyway, Marion was the best guy on the team besides Amare for finishing those breaks. He fit the system perfectly and the system was working. Traditionally, teams keep their core intact and build towards a championship after several years of failure. If this crew couldn't do it this year, I could understand the move, but right now, it just doesn't seem to be worth the risk.
4) Shaq will be rejuvenated by his return to contender status.
    This is probably true. For a short while. But all reports show he's still not recovered from his injury. The safe bet is, he'll be injured again. Even in his prime, injuries were constant concern. All the rejuvenation in the world doesn't heal old and creaky, and Shaq is only getting older and creakier.
5) Financially, this is better because Marion doesn't have to be extended.
    Well, Marion didn't have to be extended anyway and his contract ends in 2009. Shaq's goes to 2010, by which time you're almost guaranteed he'll be a huge albatross around the team's neck, whereas Marion would at least still be young and spry.
6) Shaq helps match up with the big Western Conference teams.
    True. But they also now match up better with you. Your biggest advantage - quickness, speed and athleticism - is diminished. I think Marion is a better fit.
7) Marion is a malcontent and a cancer who needs to be traded.
    Malcontent, yes. But he's always been that way. He's never felt like he got his due. But it never affected his play on the court. An pouting Marion is still better than a happy yet creaky Shaq (who will, inevitably, become a pouting and creakier Shaq).

In the end, I could be very wrong about all of this. Maybe the frontline of Shaq, Amare and Hill is big enough to match up with Odom, Gasol and Bynum. Maybe Shaq, now motivated, has his ailments suddenly disappear and he works himself frantically to get in better shape. Maybe Nash can get Shaq the ball in positions where he can be effective again. Yes, maybe. I just have my doubts.
33 Comments | Add a comment   categories: Phoenix Suns, Miami Heat, Shaquille O’Neal, Pau Gasol, NBA, Shawn Marion, Marcus Banks, Los Angeles Lakers
 
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Born and raised in Moorpark, CA - a suburb of Los Angeles - I have been a sports fan since 1994, when, as a 10-year-old boy, I discovered my own aptitude for basketball and soccer, and admired the intensity and skill of Alonzo Mourning. I became a Charlotte Hornets fan, but renounced my allegiance to the franchise when it traded my beloved 'Zo in 1995. I switched my allegiances to my hometown Los Angeles Lakers that same year, and still to this day, take perverse pleasure that the Hornets provided us with two integral pieces to the 2000 Championship squad (Kobe Bryant and Glen Rice). Recently cultivated has been my love for the Los Angeles Dodgers. I have a passing interest in the Los Angeles Kings, UCLA Bruins and Green Bay Packers.
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