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A review of the 2007-2008 NBA trades
Feb 21, 2008 | 6:32PM | report this

Whew. It’s been a whirlwind trade year and it’s been exciting for the fans. Some of the trades looked good, some looked ok and some were just head-scratchers. Here’s my view on all of this year’s major trades…

  

Trevor Ariza to the Lakers

Maurice Evans, Brian Cook to the Magic

A pretty good trade for both sides. Lakers got rid of Brian Cook who was wearing out his welcome with his passive defense and one-dimensional offense. Hey, they already have Vladamir Radmonovic to do that. They had to give up Maurice Evans who was well liked and a decent contributor, but they got back a young, athletic, defensive minded swingman to fill the 3 spot, which they desperately needed. His age (21) was a huge factor as he fit in the plan to have Bynum (20), Farmar (20), Vujacic (23), and Turiaf (24) all develop together. Meanwhile, the Magic needed veteran presences, and Mo Evans is a great teammate as well as a good, athletic, rebounding guard. Cook spreads the floor for Howard to operate. Ariza couldn’t get time behind Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis, so it was better to trade him.

Lakers: A

Magic: A-

 

Nazr Mohammed to the Bobcats

Primoz Brezec, Walter Herrmann to the Pistons

I didn’t really get this trade from the Pistons’ perspective. Brezec and Herrmann aren’t the kind of guys they generally like to play. I like Herrmann and think he can do well, but my doubts as to whether he would actually see time on the court has been confirmed. I liked this trade a lot more for the Bobcats. I’ve always felt Mohammed was a little underrated. Yeah, he can be spacey and yeah his defense needs work. But he’s an above-average big man, and those are difficult to find. Consider yourselves lucky Bobcats.

Bobcats: B+

Detroit: C-

 

Kyle Korver to the Jazz

Gordon Giricek to the 76ers

This is one of the few trades that totally made sense for BOTH sides. 76ers get the cap space they want and rid themselves of Korver’s large contract. I think the 76ers are actually doing things right this time around. Meanwhile, the Jazz get the outside shooter they desperately needed and then proceed to rip off 17 wins in 20 games. They would have sealed the deal for me if they could have somehow stolen an athletic shot-blocking big man, but those are hard to come by, so you can’t blame them. Regardless, I think the Jazz are WAY overlooked right now.

Jazz: A+

76ers: A

 

Pau Gasol and a second rounder to the Lakers

Javaris Crittenton, Kwame Brown and 2 Future First-Rounders to the Grizzlies

The most laughable of all the trades. L.A. was flooded for a day because all Lakers fans collectively pissed themselves when they heard about this trade. Don’t get me wrong – Javaris is supposed to be a very good prospect, one of whom the coaching staff (especially Tex Winters) thought highly and hated to see go. And Kwame’s $9 mil coming off the books is huge. But they already have 2 young point guards and those draft picks are going to be in the 26-30 range. Meanwhile, the Lakers 2nd rounder is probably going to be in the 31-35 range overall. There’s barely a difference except the Lakers don’t need to guarantee the second rounder’s contract. In the meantime, Pau and his new buddies rip of 7 wins in 8 games (7 on the road), including one over the Suns. Just laughable. Unless you're the rest of the league.

Lakers: A+

Grizzlies: D- 

 

Stromile Swift to the Nets

Jason Collins to the Grizzlies

Eh, who cares? It doesn’t make either team significantly better or worse.

Nets: C

Grizzlies: C

 

Shaquille O’Neal to the Suns

Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks to the Heat

I absolutely HATED this trade for the Suns at first, but it’s growing on me. I think they did need to make this gamble. Don’t get me wrong; it’s a gamble all right. But if Shaq can give them the kind of game he showed last night against the Lakers every night, they’re going to be better than they were. Of course, that’s assuming his energy level is always going to be that high and that his 36 year-old body won’t #### out at any minute, but still, it’s not as galactically stupid as I thought it was at the outset. Still, his individual defense is seriously suspect and the Suns are about to see a stream of pick and rolls until the cows come home. Plus, Marion was kind of their glue guy. As for the Heat, this trade was an absolute coup. I never thought they could get someone to take Shaq off their hands. They got rid o####uy who was not motivated to do anything but sit and collect his checks and rid themselves of his hefty salary. They also get the ever-underrated Shawn Marion and also underrated Marcus Banks. I think Marcus Banks might be able to shine a little more in Miami. Of course, they might lose Marion after this season or the next, but Shaq was never going to do for the Heat what he might be willing to do for the Suns, so they needed him to go.

Suns: INC. (Their final exam counts for 90% of their grade meaning it could be an A or an F by season’s end.)

Heat: A

Mike Bibby to the Hawks

Tyronne Lue, Anthony Johnson, Shelden Williams, Lorenzen Wright to the Kings

I honestly didn’t really like this trade for either side. I think Atlanta did better because the Kings should have gotten more than the package they got: 2 below-average point guards, a below-average undersized center and a bust. But at the same time, Bibby just isn’t the same guy he was 3 or 4 seasons ago. The Kings just traded him too late. I still think Bibby does address some needs that the Hawks have, notably, outside shooting and a steady hand at the PG position. But I’m not convinced he’s the right piece to put them over the hump. Yeah, he’s a veteran, but he’s hardly a leader.

Hawks: C

Kings: D

 

Jason Kidd, Malik Allen, Antoine Wright to the Mavs

Devin Harris, DeSanga Diop, Maurice Ager, Keith van Horn and Trenton Hassell to the Nets

Thank God this trade finally went through, because if it didn’t, it was going to be awkward for both teams the rest of the season. I still think it was a stupid deal on the Mavs part. Kidd is overrated right now. The fact that he gets triple-doubles (12-10-11 triple doubles at that, not 30-14-12 triple doubles like LeBron) overshadows the fact that he’s become a turnover machine and is shooting 36% from the field. Furthermore, Devin Harris is a blossoming star. His +/- rating was the best on the team and the Mavs were clearly better with him on the court. When he got injured, the Mavs played poorly. Ironically, they traded away the guy they needed most. Furthermore, in the beefed up Western Conference one needs MORE size, not less. Trading Sanga leaves them with Dampier as their only option at C. Good luck with that, guys. The good news is that Malik Allen and Antoine Wright are good role players, and that Kidd, for what he has lost over the years on the court, he has gained over the years in the locker room. The Mavs definitely needed a guy with balls. At least they have that now. The Nets, on the other hand, weren’t going anywhere as they were constructed. In the end, they get rid of Kidd’s monstrous contract and in return get a young star, expiring contracts, and a good backup center. You can’t ask for much more (are you taking notes Sonics?)

Nets: A

Mavs: C-

 

Kurt Thomas to the Spurs

Brent Barry, Francisco Elson, cash, 1st round pick to the Sonics

I simply cannot for the life of me understand this trade for the Sonics. All these wink-wink, behind-the-scenes, ball-washing deals are getting ridiculous. Presti and Carlisimo, old buddies of Buford and Popovich, should be ashamed of themselves. As a Lakers fan, this was the one trade that made me say, “@$*%!” because this is a ridiculous steal for the Spurs. Just when you think you’ve gotten a leg up on the champs, they get a guy like Kurt Thomas who is PERFECT for their team. The Sonics basically received a low first round pick. That’s it. Yeah, Barry and Elson are expiring contracts. BUT SO IS KURT THOMAS!! And he can actually play! Geez, this one just made me want to slap someone.

Spurs: A+

Sonics: F-

 

Gerald Green to the Rockets

Kirk Snyder, 2nd Round pick to the T-Wolves

Has Gerald Green’s stock really fallen this far? Yikes. I think this was a good pickup for the Rockets. He may never pan out, but if all you’re sacrificing is Kirk Snyder and a 2nd rounder, it’s totally worth it. Meanwhile, the T-Wolves dive further into cost-cutting mode.

Rockets: B+

T-Wolves: C 

 

Bobby Jackson, Adam Haluska to the Rockets

Mike James, Bonzi Wells to the Hornets

Yeah, I know this was a three team trade, but essentially it was these two teams. I think it was an decent trade from both sides. Bonzi Wells I think has the best chance to make the biggest impact. He also has the best chance to do something totally stupid. But he ate the Spurs for breakfast, lunch and dinner in the playoffs only 2 years ago (figuratively speaking). But looking at his frame, he may have wanted to do it literally as well. But he and Mike James aren’t just talented; they’re head cases as well. I mean, if Adelman couldn’t Bonzi’s best, who can? Anyway, the Hornets at least shored up their pathetic bench and gave Chris Paul more guys to hit for open shots. As for the Rockets, Bobby Jackson might actually be able to provide the occasional spark. Not bad all around.

Hornets: B

Rockets: B- 

 

Ben Wallace, Joe Smith, Wally Szczerbiak, Delonte West to the Cavs

Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Shannon Brown, Cedric Simmons to the Bulls

Ira Newble, Donyell Marshall, Adrian Griffin to the Sonics

Wow, lots to discuss here. I like this trade best for the Bulls. The contracts of Ben Wallace and Larry Hughes effectively cancel each other out, but I think the Bulls are getting the better player. Hughes has really shown signs of life lately, even erupting for 41 points recently. I also think getting Drew Gooden is a good pickup. He doesn’t play defense, but he rebounds and is a decent low-post scorer, which they’ve been dying for now for years. Plus, Joakim Noah is doing what Wallace does, only better and for a fraction of the price. They’ve been better with Noah on the floor. Shannon Brown and Cedric Simmons are insignificant fillers. What the Cavs got from the Bulls I’m not too wild about. Wallace is totally washed up. He’s hardly recognizable on the defensive end, although you could recognize him on the offensive end because he’s just as bad as he’s always been. These have been career low numbers for him, and unfortunately, that’s not a fluke. His numbers have been declining for years now. Luckily, the rest of the trade looks promising for the Cavs. Joe Smith, I’ve felt, has always been underrated, only because people have looked at him as a bad #1 pick, not as a good player. He’s had a good season, although he’s tapered off a bit as of late. What the Cavs really should be happy about is what they got from the Sonics. Szczerbiak could hit jumpers falling out of bed. He won’t give you great defense, but he’ll give you good effort and good efficiency and that’ll be huge for LeBron. Delonte West is highly underrated. He’s not your classic point guard. In fact, he’s kind of a miniature combo guard. But he’s a good one. I think these two guys will complement LeBron nicely. As for the Sonics, well, what can you say? I guess if your only goal is cutting cost, then they’ve achieved it. But they didn’t receive one draft pick in all of that? How did that happen?

Bulls: A-

Cavs: B+

Sonics: C-

 

Juan Dixon to the Pistons

Primoz Brezec to the Raptors

Poor Brezec. Traded twice in two months. Tough luck dude. The Raptors needed more size and they got it. Brezec was a pretty good player as recently as 3 seasons ago. Too bad his injury has set him back so badly. The Raptors are gambling that he’ll can recover his form, but it’s a good gamble. Juan Dixon is a shoot first, shoot second and shoot third kind of guy. But when he’s hot, he’s hot. He can be a useful guy off the pine when the Pistons are struggling to put the ball in the hoop. Good trade all around.

Pistons: A-

Raptors: B+

 

Whew. Are there more to come? Trade announcements always trickle in past the deadline so there might be more surprises to come. As if we haven’t been spoiled enough already…

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RelicFace
Feb 21, 2008
9:04 PM
Wow, that was informative and a good read.

fadeawadejumper
Feb 22, 2008
6:02 AM
I like all the grades except the Kings, Bibby wanted out, and two of those contracts are expiring contracts. So with Artest opting out, adding more cap relief in place of Bibby's salary is a good move, I would give them at least B-. Overall a good read, the Gerald Green trade must have slipped through the cracks, I didn't even notice it, lol. Guess his stock HAS fallen that much, especially after Howard completely outshined him in his sole opportunity to raise his worth a little.

fadeawadejumper
Feb 22, 2008
6:05 AM
also, I like the trade that the Nuggets pulled getting Taurean Green for Von Wafer. Green has potential, and was buried under Portland's 5,000,000 PG's. He is an excellent distributor, and did a great job with 3 future lottery picks here at Florida, I can't wait to see him get some minutes with AI and co.

fadeawadejumper
Feb 22, 2008
6:11 AM
Oh wait let's not ignore the trade that contributed to the fast decline of the Heat, Antoine Walker, Mike Doleac to Minn for Ricky Davis, Mark Blount. I give the Heat an FFFFFFF, for bringing in Blount's F-ing anvil of a contract to Miami, and letting a decent center (Doleac) go and bringing in a malignant cancer (davis) in exchange for a benign cancer (Walker). Sure Walker took bad shots, but he knew how to play with Wade. Davis thinks he is Kobe, and he doesn't play defense. I give the T'wolves a B for tricking us into taking Mark 'smoke a' Blount.

DynamoJaxon
Feb 22, 2008
8:39 AM
How can you rate the sonics Spurs trade so low? Do you not see how the Sonics are tanking? With Thomas's age and the Sonics most certainly eyeing the future this trade makes the most sense. Thomas wasn't part of the solution for the long haul. Do you honestly think he was going to stick around through 5+ years or rebuilding? No, so they got rid of him for draft picks, giving them 13 in 3 years. Hello! How do you get better for the future? Get a #### load of draft picks and at least a handful of them will pan out into at least decent players. This deal made sooooo much sense. I wouldn't be surprised to see them move Wilcox in the offseason and a couple of their flopped big men.

Hoffman
Feb 22, 2008
9:23 AM
Good blog pdloos.

Cygnus
Feb 22, 2008
11:17 AM
I like your analysis. perhaps they should put you on the FOX Sports front-page instead of Mike"Shaka" Khan. Oh wait, they did...good move FOX...for once.

LakerFanSince1980!
Feb 22, 2008
11:28 AM
pdloos, you're right about the Kings keeping Bibby too long to trade, because Maloof bros made a mistake by giving Bibby that huge contract after he had that ONE good playoff series against the Lakers in '02 and he hasn't done nothing since. As far as I'm concerned, Bibby is a poseur point guard.
Out of all the trades the Lakers got the best deal by getting Gasol and that's the reason a lot of teams are making trades because they know the Lakers are gonna be a team to reckon with come playoff time!
One more thing, I thought that first season game was a fluke when the Lakers clobbered the Suns but now I realize it wasn't because the Suns can't contend with the Lakers and if they meet again in the playoffs, the Lakers will knock them out this time and it won't matter if Shaq manages to dominate, because you know Phil is gonna keeping send him to the free throw line.

Last edited by LakerFanSince1980! on February 22nd at 11:33 AM.

NJVikings5
Feb 22, 2008
11:38 AM
i was about to do something like this but you beat me to it. You forgot the early trades though ie the Celts and Woves/Sonics. The Heat and the Wolves

Good post though

underage
Feb 22, 2008
1:42 PM
Enjoy reading it..
Very nice.

pdloos
Feb 22, 2008
3:36 PM
fade - Yeah, I may have been a bit harsh on the Kings trade. But honestly, I think they could have gotten more elsewhere. I think the Kings though are waffling. They're the only team in the entire Western Conference isn't a) terrible or b) really good. Yet they can't decide which way they're going to go. Yeah, they got expiring contracts in this deal. That counts for something if you're for sure rebuilding. But keeping Artest doesn't make any sense if you're rebuilding. He wasn't making that much, he was a hot commodity and he'll probably walk after this season. They could have gone into full rebuild mode but chose the middling path. I don't think that's smart so I don't see how this trade really fits into their plans.

fadeawadejumper
Feb 22, 2008
4:44 PM
Hey, great rebuttal, can't argue with that, so lets call it a C lol, but I get what you are saying, but maybe they are seeing Artest as an expiring contract, and did not want to trade him away for anything they would have gotten in return. It may have been strategic in a sense, because assuming Artest opts out, the Kings will be a major player in free agency. Had they hastily trade Artest, they may have brought in some bad salaries, and slowed the rebuilding process even more.

askai4747
Feb 22, 2008
5:19 PM
I don't think you know much about how trading in the NBA works. You're just comparing players to players, when a lot of these trades were made to dump salary and long term contracts in order for teams to improve themselves in the offseason or down the road.

wes72
Feb 22, 2008
6:20 PM
This person obviously does not see the whole picture. Rating the Pistons a "C-" for trading Nazr Mohammed has to be the most limited view that I have heard. Mohammed had three years on his contract (after this year) at $6 million a year. Dumars had found a team willing to assume a big contract and he got two players who will be free agents and off the Pistons roster by season-end, for a player (Mohammed) who was slow and played horrible defense. Dumars, unlike Pdloos, understands that working the salary cap (and freeing space in this case) is everything in basketball. Pdloos get a "C-" for his basketball knowledge. I will give Mohammed, meanwhile, a B+ for his attitude.

SCREWFACE
Feb 23, 2008
6:29 AM
Nice piece! I think though that you are selling the Sonics short. You gotta remember that this team was centered around Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis for the past 5 years. At this point Durant isn't really ready and what else do they have around the kid. They could have made the deal with another club I'll agree, but at the end of the day I don't think this is gonna have large big of an impact on the Spurs. I just don't think they are gonna have enough gas when it comes down the western conference finals. That being said, I'll maintain my previously stated disdain for the cleveland end of the big ben deal. This deal looks worse each time I look at it. I don't have anywhere the confidence you have in Wallyworld. Yeah the guy can shoot it, but he can't create a shot no handle and no defense. This is a trade to get them a championship? I just don't see it. There is a reason Wally languished in Indiana, he just isn't that good of a ballplayer. He is really a one dimensional guy, and he looked good on an awful Sonics team. Where was he before he went to Seattle? Delonte West is a nice player he's a younger Eric Snow with a better jump shot. Good but as Lebron said last night, it's not what he was looking for, I'll go further to say it was not what the team needed. And while Lebron loves Bibby, I'd conclude that the only player who would have improved this team was Jason Kidd. As for Joe Smith, he does suffer from the malaise of being a busted number 1 overall. Thing is that he's never amounted to more than a good off the bench guy. He's a good ballplayer true, but he isn't going t

rudedawgrudy
Feb 23, 2008
12:13 PM
LOOK OUT NOT ONLY THE WEST BUT... THE "REST"...SPURS JUST STOLE K.T ( YEAH RIGHT THIS WHAT WE DOWN HERE IN TEXAS CALL THE PARTNA' DEAL STEAL ) FROM SEATTLE AND NOW ALL WE GOTS TA DO IS WAIT 30 DAYS AND WE CAN WELCOME BACK OUR "BONES" ( BRENT BARRY ) AND START MAKING OUT OUR RESERVATIONS 4 DA "SHIP"

meader99
Feb 23, 2008
12:32 PM
I agree with your assessment of the Bulls trade. Getting out of the rest of Wallace's contract was huge. Joe Smith is very underrated, he and Noccioni were the most consistent players on the Bulls night in and night out. Brown has athleticism and under the right system may prove to be a good bench/role player.

favor24
Feb 23, 2008
3:00 PM
i really don't knw what waz going on with marc cuban. i mean devin harris is going to be a star in the future jason kidd has milage already he's not going to be fast as the young kid.

mattm5150
Feb 23, 2008
10:24 PM
nice work loos. And to add, The Lakers were the 1 seed in the West with the 3rd best record in the whole league when Bynum went down. Everybody said that they'll drop in the standings, and all that. Me included, though I never thought they'd drop any further than they did, I thought to the 4 or 5, but whatever. Point is, with the win today, they are the 1 seed in the West and have the 3rd best record (tied) in the NBA five weeks later, with Drew coming back in a few weeks. Of course the Gasol trade is an A...

Last edited by mattm5150 on February 23rd at 10:25 PM.

djkyec
Feb 24, 2008
5:43 AM
Out of all the trades the Lakers got the best deal by getting Gasol and that's the reason a lot of teams are making trades because they know the Lakers are gonna be a team to reckon with come playoff time!

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Kozanski
Feb 24, 2008
4:31 PM
Nice article, good work. I would point out that the writer is possibly missing the point of the Sonics trades ... they don't want a player like Thomas who can play, they want to shed salary and get the highest possible pick in the draft by losing. If they get way, way, way under the cap and pick up Beasley or Rose in the draft, it is happy days for the team.

fm52151
Feb 25, 2008
6:11 AM
look at the western conferance standings, the suns are in danger of missing the playoff much less winning a championship.

swani
Feb 25, 2008
7:18 AM
those were interesting trades indeed and personally i thought the bulls got some good pieces for this remaiming season and future . it makes me wonder though if their present big three on their way out . that being gordon, heinrich and deng

ChaddyDaddy
Feb 25, 2008
8:31 AM
I didn't think the Cavs trade but too good either, but then I realized Wallace should benefit from playing forward rather than center. He'll playing against people his own size now. He'll never be what he was three years ago, but this should help him.

Deki
Feb 25, 2008
9:23 AM
I think your comments on Kidd are ridiculous. Overrated? For whom? You? Last time I checked...Kidd was a point guard(floor general), responsible for feeding the ball. The guy maybe in the late stages of his career, but he's still 3rd in the league in assists - and will probably finish 2nd at year's end now that he is a Mav(15 and 17 in his last 2).

Before you make comments like Kidd is overrated....go ask Kobe or Lebron if they would want Kidd suiting up along side them. Wonder if they'd say...nah - he's overrated. Doubtful.

SportsBettor
Feb 25, 2008
9:28 AM
Best trade? Kidd to the Mavs... Worst? Shaq to the Suns

BigRed15
Feb 25, 2008
3:53 PM
Most of your grades on on point. I do however think that you should rethink what you graded Memphis and Seatle. For this season, the trade was bad yes. But the cap space that they freed up for future offseasons cannot be ignored. If they make some smart choices in free agency, then that grade will go up. Nice article nonetheless.

anklebreaker96
Dec 26, 2008
2:41 AM
Great info, thanks.
The problem with the Shaq trade was Marion has still got many years in him while shaq is getting old. But Steve Kerr fixed up the team with the Jason Richardson trade.

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Born and raised in Moorpark, CA - a suburb of Los Angeles - I have been a sports fan since 1994, when, as a 10-year-old boy, I discovered my own aptitude for basketball and soccer, and admired the intensity and skill of Alonzo Mourning. I became a Charlotte Hornets fan, but renounced my allegiance to the franchise when it traded my beloved 'Zo in 1995. I switched my allegiances to my hometown Los Angeles Lakers that same year, and still to this day, take perverse pleasure that the Hornets provided us with two integral pieces to the 2000 Championship squad (Kobe Bryant and Glen Rice). Recently cultivated has been my love for the Los Angeles Dodgers. I have a passing interest in the Los Angeles Kings, UCLA Bruins and Green Bay Packers.
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