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by: oldskewler
Fatally Flawed AKA ACC Out-of-Conference Grades
May 02, 2008 | 12:37PM | report this

Since the ACC and Big East had their mix and match party, the ACC has underachieved and disappointed as a whole.  Save for a few good Virginia Tech teams and a good Wake Forest team, there hasn’t been much to crow about in the ACC.  Is it because expectations were too high?  It is about time this super-conference steps it up a notch.

In case you missed my other grades here are the links: Big XII, Big 10(+1), SEC, Pac-10, and Big East.  The criteria I am taking into consideration are as follows:  The expected level of play of the ACC team, the expected level of play of the opponent, FBS (Div-1A) opponents, FCS (Div-1AA) opponents.  I do not take into account how good a scheduled team was when the game was contracted.  Conversely, I will give credit for recently improved teams like Rutgers and South Florida.  Let’s take a look at the last BCS conference’s out-of-conference (OOC) schedules for me to grade.

Virginia – USC, Richmond, Connecticut, Eastern Carolina.  USC is a total monster to have on a OOC schedule.  Period.  End of story.  I will gladly overlook the lousy Richmond game because of the cajones it took to put USC on the schedule.  The other two game are not bad either.  UCONN, nine game winners last year, should put up a good fight for Virginia.  The Cavaliers dropped an easy game last year against Wyoming.  Could ECU be this years Wyoming?  Maybe.  I love this schedule, and I have to give credit for having USC up there.  Grade: A

MiamiCharleston Southern, Florida, Texas A&M, Central Florida.  This could have been one of the best, if not the best, OOC schedule, if it were not for that Charleston Southern game.  That game really takes away from what they are trying to do in Miami.  All that I am saying is schedule an FBS team like Arizona, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, or Baylor.  Why do you have to go out of the FBS?  Anyway, the Florida game will be a monster for Miami.  It should show us where Miami will be this year.  The A&M game is important because Miami should win, but the Aggies are always formidable.  The UCF game will be really good.  I assure you that the players from Miami do not want to lose that game.  I will also assure you that the UCF players are gunning for the Canes.  Grade: A-

Duke – James Madison, Northwestern, Navy, Wake Forest. As far as I know, Duke has never been confused with being good at football.  I may be wrong, but Duke is usually really bad.  I’m confused because last year didn’t Notre Dame celebrate wildly after a last minute win over Duke?  Maybe that was a dream.  Dream or no dream, this is a pretty good schedule overall for Duke.  James Madison is an FCS team, but I can overlook that due to the fact that it is Duke.  Wake Forest is certainly a formidable foe.  The Navy and Northwestern games should be challenging for the Blue Devils.  Overall, not bad.  Grade: A-

North Carolina State – South Carolina, William and Mary, Eastern Carolina, South Florida.  This one could have been an “A” if it weren’t for that danged W&M on the schedule.  Wow, this is still pretty good.  South Florida should still be good this year with Leavitt there to incite that violent defense.  Darth Visor and the Gamecocks are formidable for NC State and most other teams.  ECU is a quality team that will make you earn a win over them.  Then, there is that W&M staring you in the face like a wounded puppy-dog.  Why?  Why did they have to ruin a perfectly good OOC schedule?  Grade: B+

North CarolinaMcNeese State, Rutgers, Connecticut, Notre Dame. Three years ago you would have looked at this schedule and scoffed at the lack of competition outside of Notre Dame.  What a difference three years makes, huh?  Rutgers is here to stay with Schiano at the helm.  UCONN had a very good season last year and shouldn’t lose too much.  Notre Dame is a big question mark.  Will they be bad or really bad?  It would have been nice to see a Baylor or New Mexico State on the schedule instead of McNeese State, but that seems to be a trend here in the ACC.  Grade: C+

MarylandDelaware, Middle Tennessee State, California, Eastern Michigan. This is not too, too bad.  Cal is certainly a great game to have as the most challenging game on the OOC-schedule.  Middle Tennessee State and Eastern Michigan are ok games.  They are moderately good teams that lack the depth to really beat you in the fourth quarter.  They will challenge you throughout the game, but you are in no real danger of losing if you are reasonably deep.  Actually, Delaware isn’t too bad.  Sure they lost their hot-shot QB, but if you are going to go out of the FBS you could do much worse than Delaware.  Grade: C

Wake Forest – Baylor, Mississippi, Navy, Vanderbilt. I like this schedule because all the teams are from the FBS.   I don’t like this schedule because none of the teams are really good.  When Navy may be the hardest team on your schedule, then you have a weak schedule.  Vandy and Baylor are perennial cellar-dwellers.  That leaves Ole Miss.  They were probably the worst team in the SEC last year.  Granted, the SEC is a tough conference, but when your only wins are against Memphis, LA Tech, and Northwestern State, you may have problems.  The only thing good about this schedule is what I have already mentioned.  Grade: C-

Boston College – Kent State, Central Florida, Rhode Island, Notre Dame. This really stinks up the place here.  UCF is a pretty good team and will challenge BC, but in no way should it be the most challenging game on the schedule.  Notre Dame may put up a fight at the end of the year against BC, but it is unlikely.  Kent State should have been the weakest game on the schedule, but BC needed to schedule Rhode Island.  Really?  Rhode Island?  This is very disappointing coming from a team that won ten games last year.  Grade: D

Florida State – Western Carolina, Chattanooga, Colorado, Florida.  This is another disappointing OOC schedule that had promise.  Having Colorado and Florida on the schedule is phenomenal.  That is gutsy and I give a lot of credit for that.  The problem is that FSU went outside the FBS for their patsies.  Again, what is wrong with an Ohio, Baylor, Western Michigan, Vandy, or Iowa State on the schedule?  Why do they have to go so far down the food chain?  It doesn’t do any good for FSU except to all but guarantee a win.  Isn’t that win all but guaranteed with a Buffalo or a New Mexico State?  Deplorable.  Grade: D

Clemson – Alabama, Citadel, South Carolina State, South Carolina. Here is an example of a OOC schedule that had potential, but ultimately failed.  Alabama to start the season is a very bold and tough game.  The rivalry game with Darth Visor and South Carolina at the end of the year is very, very respectable.  What is up with the ####-stain in the middle?  Citadel and South Carolina State?  I’m sorry, but one of those two would have been bad enough.  Clemson is a good team, and should try to do a better job challenging themselves.  It is really tough for me to give a bad grade to Clemson because of the Alabama game, but fair is fair.  Grade: D-

Georgia Tech – Jacksonville State, Mississippi State, Gardner-Webb, Georgia. The game with Georgia is a monster and I give credit for being a rivalry game.  The Mississippi State game is respectable, and MSU should be pretty good this year.  The rest of the schedule is trash.  This is very disappointing.  I think they could have done a much better job.  I think they should have done a much better job.  There is no excuse for two non-FBS teams to be on the OOC schedule.  Grade: D-

Virginia Tech – Eastern Carolina, Furman, Nebraska, Western Kentucky.  Ok, I get it.  To be in the ACC you must beat up on Div-1AA teams.  It must be a requirement because just about every ACC team has one on the schedule and four teams have two.  Not cool.  If this year’s Nebraska was the Nebraska of old, then I may have been inclined to overlook one of the two patsies on the list.  Such is not the case.  Nebraska may be the most challenging team on the schedule, but that is not saying very much at all.  ECU is fine if they are not the “big game” on the OOC schedule.  This may be the case.  Western Kentucky recently came up from Div-1AA. Ok.  This is VT here not Duke.  Grade: F

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Dwindy1
May 2, 2008
4:57 PM
Hey olds!

Va. Tech opened with LSU last season, I guess once a decade or so is enough, now they're back in their old groove...

Someday when Collegiate football goes totally professional (above board), maybe the scheduling will be done by a higher power instead of allowing this process to reamin in the hands of he administrators...

Thanks man!

oldskewler
May 2, 2008
11:35 PM
I hear you. It's not all their fault. Nebraska was supposed to be good, or at least better than they are. Thanks.

slshusker
May 4, 2008
11:51 AM
ACC football?

Didn't their 2006 conference champ lose to lowly Nebraska in 2007. For shame! (typo fix)

Last edited by slshusker on May 4th at 4:54 PM.

oldskewler
May 5, 2008
7:09 AM
sls, that was the one bright spot we had last year. I think they were the best team we beat and we barely hung on for that. We probably should have lost.

blue_flame_nut
May 7, 2008
5:06 AM
I agree with the grades. I was shocked to see that my favorite team is playing FCS No Names Citadel and SC State. Clemson needs to play big teams. I'd like to see the Tigers play these teams: California, Tennessee, Georgia, Texas, Texas Tech, etc.

oldskewler
May 7, 2008
10:07 AM
Clemson has a great tradition and should be considered one of the best teams in the ACC. I know that some years Clemson schedules very well, but I guess this is a bit of an off year. Hard to say that with Alabama as the first game of the season.

hook'emhorns
May 20, 2008
7:03 AM
olds,

Duke's game against Miami is not ooc. So their ranking will go down even more b/c I bet the other ooc game is not a s good as Miami.

oldskewler
May 20, 2008
7:41 AM
Dang man you are right. How did that happen? Must be them danged Gremlins again. Thanks for pointing it out. I will edit accordingly.

Actually, changing Miami for Wake Forest is not that big of a jump. I am going to keep the same grade. Over the past couple years, WF has come out to play. I think it is a comparable switch.

Last edited by oldskewler on May 20th at 7:46 AM.

DezzNutz
May 23, 2008
10:28 PM
Dude, get off USC's nuts. You give anyone that skeds them an auotmatic "A". See OSU, who recieved one though they skedded FCS Youngstown St.

Yet you give Georgia Tech a D- minus and they have skedded a potential SEC maybe NC in Georgia.

Also, I dont understand why you give some teams slack and harp on others, treat every team the same when grading...IE: Duke.

An A- minus? Really?...REEEEAAAALLLLLLLY? A Big10 bottom dwellar, a service academy, and James Madison has a football program? Doth not earn an A-

Wake Forest is ACC. Dukes other OOC is Vanderbilt...not to bad they skedded a big10 and an SEC team though they are both cellar dwellars...I'd give Duke a C+...maybe B-

Last edited by DezzNutz on May 23rd at 10:34 PM.

n8dog11914
Sep 1, 2008
7:22 PM
First of all, as a Georgia Tech fan I know the reason we are playing Gardner-Webb is because Army backed out on us for some dumb reason. Also, we are playing two SEC teams so I think we at least deserve a C. Last, what kind of schedule would a school want to make considering our team has a new coach, offense, and defense along with a ton of underclassmen running the new show.

VTcolors
Sep 5, 2008
6:44 PM
Well, I must say that I agree with the weak schedules in the ACC, however I do not believe the universities at fault, but rather the entire conference and the ability to add a more tougher schedule. One problem is not playing more tougher conferences each year to get ideas on toughening up the ACC. Two, it would also help our conference more if coaches issue the proper plays during the game, especially when a win is in favor, but come up short, due to a crappy play pattern. Three, getting rid of out of touch offensive and defensive coordinators! As for VT, Beamer needs to think about firing his offensive coordinator, due to a stinking offense for over 10 years now! WAKE UP BEAMER! The way VT wins games is a really tough defense and I applaude Bud Foster for his dedication, but Frank, please consider a change on the offensive end!

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