lost in the current state of affairs in the nba is the true magnificence of one of the greatest players of all time. with so much focus on other topics - the new ball, league expansion, globalization - as well as individuals - stern, cuban, riley, artest, bryant, james, nash - the biggest ticket gets lost in the shuffle.
many analysts, league officials, coaches, scouts, and fans are likely to mention kevin garnett when talking about the league's better players...it would be foolish to think that he isn't a premier player in the nba. but too often, those comments are followed by a qualifying statement, such as "yea, but he's never won anything" or "what a waste of talent" or "too bad he played during the same period as tim duncan."
i agree that it is a shame his talent and ability has been utilized thus far in a mediocre city with a mediocre (at best) team, and led by subpar management. mchale's mismanagement of the t'wolves is well-documented. he lost three draft picks and accrued other sanctions for his illegal signing of joe smith. his draft choices, trades, and free agent signings are suspect at best (see: olowakandi, mike james, et al.). he assembled one solid team (with spree and cassel), in 2004, and kg led them to the conference finals, where they were beaten by the kobe/shaq juggernaut. this year, besides ricky davis (acquired in a trade last year) and randy foye (#1 pick this year), how many timberwolves can you name?
i was excited when rumors of a.i. to minnesota surfaced, as i am whenever talk of kg to the lakers, bulls, or another team pops up. i truly believe that had garnett had jerry west or brian colangelo in the front office, or had a trade or a draft pick here or there went another way, we would be looking at multiple rings on kg's fingers. i maintain that if he was in san antonio instead of tim duncan, he would have filled a hand and started on the other by now. and if he goes to the lakers, they will contend until he and kobe choose to hang 'em up.
however, those are the wishes of the fans and pundits who know kg's true talent and know the clock is ticking on his body and his mindset. we are the ones who want to see kg succeed at whatever cost. no one wants to win more than he does (as is evidenced by his unparalleled work ethic and dedication, personified most often in the form of primal shrieks), but he does not agree that his loyalty to those who drafted, shaped, and aided him should be sacrificed in the process. mchale has done juuuust enough to maintain his interest in the city and team year after year to keep him from fully engaging his suitors.
the bottom line is that as long as the status quo remains - mchale wastes time and picks/players and garnett retains his unbridled loyalty - the timberwolves will never win a championship, and kg will be remembered as a great player whose time never came. his supporters will say he never had the talent around him, the general manager was a failure, the city never fully embraced the team, or he never received coaching necessary to win titles. by contrast, his detractors will proclaim that his contract ate up too much of the salary cap, that he could have singlehandedly taken over any playoff series, that he choked in said series (his numbers in most categories, including scoring and rebounds, actually increased in the postseason), that if he cared about winning he would have demanded a trade, and that he was overrated from the beginning (choosing to compare him to duncan).
while the debate over his legacy will remain long after his playing days are through, the crucial message in this post is this: realize and comprehend the greatness of what you are seeing while kg is still around. when talking about the best players in the nba, the truly elite, once-in-a-generation players, his name should be in the first breath without question. when speaking about dirk, nash, arenas, kobe, d-wade, lebron, etc., kevin garnett's name should be at the top of the list. he should absolutely be considered for the mvp each and every year.
by no means am i saying that he is always better than those aforementioned players, but his numbers, passion, personality, and uniqueness (when was the last time you saw a 7-footer with a 7'4" wingspan and a 38" vertical leap?) combine to produce a truly unbelievable basketball player. i am not going to delve too deeply into his statistics, so i thought i would choose just two to identify his abilities, since i believe they speak to his all-around play. first, he is the first and only player in nba history with at least 18,000 points, 10,000 rebounds, 4,000 assists, 1,200 steals, and 1,500 blocks in his playing career. not one other player in the history of the league, no matter his talent, supporting cast, city, coach, or any other variable, has ever displayed this kind of tenacity and ability in so many categories. second, his player efficiency rating (PER), a widely-accepted method of judging a player's effectiveness per minute on the court, has varied between 25.50 and 29.50 this century. according to PER creator john hollinger, that range (with an average of 27.50) places garnett in the "strong MVP candidate" category (right below the "runaway MVP candidate" level)...and he has done this for 7 years now, winning the award only once.
aside from the 10 all-star appearances, 7 all-nba teams, 7 all-defensive teams, and all the other accolades that he has compiled in his career, i believe the above lines (in bold) truly captures what kg is all about: unselfishness and team-oriented play, playing every possession as if it were your last, showing skill and desire on both ends of the floor, and stepping on the court for each game with the mindset that you want to win more than anything and can win against anyone.
off the court, his teammates and coaches sing nothing but his praises as well. aside from one comment during the 2005 season, when he compared going into a game with going to war (blown out of proportion due to heated wartime debate in america), i cannot think of another time when he offended player, coach, group, or anyone with his language. much of his charity work goes unnoticed, but he recently won the nba's citizenship award in 2006 for his work with hurrican katrina victims. teammates have also never had any ill will with kg, aside from sam cassel joking that he was "too intense sometimes." he doesn't have the rap sheet associated with stars who have been in the nba for about as long as he has (see iverson, allen and bryant, kobe). personally, the biggest reason i chose kg as my favorite player way back when was his first act upon signing his long-term, $100+ million contract. he moved his closest high school friends (known as the OBF, or "official block family") to houses next to his out in minnesota. that solidified him in my mind as a person whose heart and compassion equal his talent in his craft.
i fully understand that those reading posts on this site are used to throwing around statistics and opinions, which is primarily what this author has provided in this writing. so i ask that each person take the time out to watch a timberwolves game. you will see kg run the offense, attract double-and triple-teams, set screens, look to pass, rebound at will, block shots, alter the direction and intention of driving guards, and he will stand out as by far the most valuable and multitalented player on the court. statistics don't lie, and when you read in the box score that he led the wolves in 4 of 5 categories, and had 13 in the 4th quarter, that actually happened. but look deeper into the game, and realize that they would be nothing without him...realize that this is someone the likes of whom we may not see for a long, long time.
if you think next year will be the dawning of a new era, with the arrival of oden, durant, and wright, think again...each one of them would be lucky to be considered a "poor man's" kevin garnett.
I accept your challenge: Mark Blount, Mike James, Mark Madsen, Troy Hudson, Rsshad McCants, Troy Hudson, Trenton Hassell, and an undersized rookie power forward whose name escapes me at the moment.
I've written about this before, and you can look through my archives to see my complete take. But while I agree that KG is a great player, I think a lot of people overrate how great he is.
He certainly isn't a franchise player along the likes of Jason Kidd, Tim Duncan, Shaq, or Kobe. Most likely, he's a 7-foot version of Scottie Pippen, which is pretty damn good.
I'd say he belongs on a third tier of superstars. The top tier being the likes of Russell, Wilt, Magic, MJ, Bird, and KG's current peers Shaq, Kobe, and Duncan.
On a second tier of star would be your David Robinsons, Charles Barkley, etc. (Say what you want about David, but take Elliott, Rodman, or Johnson out of the equation and tell me there starting lineups before Duncan...yet they never missed the playoffs and teams were better.
The third tier, which is still Hall of Fame worthy, includes KG, Dominque Wilkins, Elgin Baylor, Lenny Wilkins, Pete Maravich.
ublanj - thanks for your comment. impressive that you knew all the wolves players - props on that. i think we would agree that most would not be able to come up with those names. i believe the "undersized rookie power forward" of which you speak is craig smith out of boston college.
i think its almost comical that you proclaim garnett "certainly isn't a franchise player." one of his nicknames is "da franchise," given to him from analysts and timberwolves management alike for his talent and his ability to carry overmatched teams to Ws. if he isn't a franchise player and essential to the foundation of the team, don't you think that mchale would have tried to move him (and his contract) by now for young talent or draft picks?
you also say that he doesn't belong on the same list as kobe, shaq, and kidd, which is also surprising. kobe and shaq had each other to ride to 3 rings, and kidd has won just as many titles as garnett, but with more talent at his disposal. in terms of stats, kg hangs with any of these guys.
i also disagree that he is on the "third tier" of superstars. he is most certainly not in the upper echelon, reserved for iconic figures who transcended the game (mj, wilt, kareem, magic, bird). however, he absolutely belongs in the second group. your two examples - the admiral and barkley - should be considered equals to kg, if not below his level of talent and value. lest we forget, kg joined KAREEM, WILT, the MAILMAN, and BARKLEY in the 18,000 point/10,000 rebound/4,000 assist club this year. exactly 3/5 (60%) of those players don't have any rings on their fingers, and kg belongs right in their company. he would fall squarely in your "second tier" of superstar in the league's history.
i will be sure to check out your archives to see what i think, but thanks again for the comment.
If you want to make an arguement about KG on the same level as Robinson and Barkley, I can see that.
But I'll argue some of the points you made:
- Shaq also took the Magic to the Finals, and then the Heat. He had a lot more to do with that then Kobe.
- The Nets weren't as talented as you would think, if you've ever watched any of those former players without Jason Kidd.
- Wouldn't hang my hand on McHale's abillity to evaluate talent.
- Statistically KG is up there. I never said he sucks. But he gets his points through the flow o####ame and never really dominates a series.
- Tim Duncan is a franchise player, place him on any roster in this league and they are legit.
- You can win with KG, but you need a specific type of player(s) around him. He needs a closer because he has not specific post move, other than his turn around jumper, that devestates teams.
- He is probably as versatile as anyone has ever been. But he is not a dominating force over the year.
All players need specific types of players around them. The only time KG had a somewhat talented player around him was Marbury in his first few years in the NBA. Enough said. If you put KG on the Spurs the team is just as good with Duncan. KG can't win in the playoffs with the teams he's had, I'm surprised he's been to the playoffs since Marbury left the franchise.
Imstillmatic, here is a perfect example o####reat team with a (largely underrated) star player: Dallas Mavericks. Look at their last years (typical) starting lineup:
F: Dirk Nowitzki
F: Josh Howard
C: Eric Dampier
G: Jason Terry
G: Adrian Griffin
How many of them were household names? Yet, this team almost managed to bring home the championship. If Timberwolves have a lineup unknown to many people, it is not because they lack talent but because the team has underachieved. And Garnett has to take some of the blame for it. He ends up with good stat line in virtually every game but winning requires more than filling up stat sheets.
ublanj - very solid counterpoints. i agree with several of your opinions. as much as i dislike duncan, i have to say that his stats (especially in the postseason) are slightly better, and for a longer period of time. i believe what kg lacks in playoff accolades, he makes up for in heart and intensity over timmy...but i see your point.
i also agree that kg isn't a consistent, dominating force like shaq, and can't often take over a game like kobe. he does get his numbers in the flow of the game, but that also speaks to his well-roundedness, versatility, and consistency. he has a few moves, but mostly relies on what comes to him vs. creating his shot.
i disagree that kidd's nets teams from the finals weren't more talented than any of the wolves teams. he always had players around him, like rjeff and kmart, to carry the load at different points in the game. when kg had his talent in the form of spree and cassel, he was able to acheive more as well. overall good points, thanks for the comment.
intercourse - great point. most bigs need a solid guard with whom they can establish an inside/outside threat, and marbury fit well with kg during his time in minny. that could have worked had circumstances remain unchanged. thanks.
go mavs - while i will agree that the mavs roster has more unknowns than the suns, spurs, or pistons, i will also assert that dirk, howard, and terry can all play at an all-star level, and their bench is pretty stocked with talent and experience as well. i think there is a huge disparity in talent between these teams, not to mention the city, coach, and front office in dallas are all superior to those in minnesota. as far as kg taking blame - he does readily accept all criticism for his team's collapses, and most of the fans and analysts are there to pour it on time and time again. i think that much criticism is unfair, and given one or two pieces, there would be no need to ask those questions anymore. thanks for the comment.
rev. rhythm - excellent question. whenever someone defends a player to this degree, i always pose it to that person as a barometer of their loyalty and dedication.
i must say that my answer depends on whether i am starting a team from scratch or building to win this year. if this is a new franchise with no players, then i pick lebron, d-wade, or dwight howard. they are all still very young, and can be the face of a franchise for 15 years. if this is one pick to start a team to win right now, i pick garnett, kobe, a.i., or nash. all of those players are hungry for a championship, and have the experience necessary to win this year.
excellent question, and i look forward to reading others' answers as well.
I respect the greatness of Kevin Garnett, I really do. But to me, he's just kind of an odd player. His talent is certainly Hall of Fame material, but his skill set is much more suited to being a complementary player than being the Man.
What I mean by this is simply, while he can do more things at an All-Star level than any other power forward (defense, passing, shooting, handling, post, rebounding) in the history of the game, he doesn't have very many areas where he really dominates -- maybe rebounding.
In contrast, lets take Tim Duncan, his most comparable peer through the course of his career. While Timmy's skill set is not as well rounded as Garnetts (he lacks the ball handling and versatility on defense), the things he is good at, he is simply the best or top three in the league.
I think I'm running out of space here, so let's get another post going...
I was going to put a new post, but I'm compelled to right my own blog because I have a lot to say and not enough space in these comments...give me a minute and I'll put something up.
Last edited by ublanj on February 16th at 8:13 PM.
ublani....you say KG is an odd player, why? Just because KG does a little bit of everything and doesn't dominate doesn't mean he isn't a dominating player. Why would he try and force shots when he's double or tripled team, why not pass out of it to an open teammate. You say TD skill set is not as well rounded as KG, but the thing he his good at is he is simply the best, or top three in the league? Would you care to elaborate on what things he is good at? Because the things TD is good at, i'm probably sure KG is also.
Okay, you can go to my blog where I went on a long post about this...
Tim Duncan in the low block is probably the best post player in the league. Through his career only Shaq has been better. His post game, taken into account on its own, matches up well with Hakeem, McHale, etc....
Garnett has a good post up game, but not a great one. There are a few players that have more established post games: Zach Randolph, Pau Gasol, Eddie Curry, Al Jefferson.
Now before we get in an uproar, KG is better than all of those players. But most Franchise players, or icons, have two or three things they are usually top five in the league at. Hakeem -- Post, Steals, Blocks. Bird -- shooting, passing, post. David Robinson -- Defense, Rebounding, Athletic ability...
Furthermore, KG is a flow of the game scorer, most franchise players, or NBA icons, are impose their will type of players.
You just hit the nail on the head. KG is a flow player, not an impose his will on the other team player. We have all been waiting for him to do this. The great ones always do. When it comes down to the final shot, or at important times in the game, we expect the 'franchise' player to take over. LeBron, Kobe, Wade, McGrady, Jordan, etc.etc. are these types of guys. Sure KG has to make himself available for the ball, but Kareem, Wilt, and Shaq never seemed to have a problem with it when it mattered. Believe me I love KG, I just want him to want it more when it really matters most.
eclipsekid - i agree with you primarily, but ublanj does make good points, and i suggest you read his post on this topic on his page.
nostradomus - i assure you that i share your love of KG, and i do wish he was considered a player who could take over a game at will. while i would argue that he does step up his game when it matters (his numbers are better in the playoffs and the 4th quarter), it is true that he doesn't posess the closing instinct as other former and current stars.
however, i will say that i believe it reflects KG's trusting and loyal personality. while no one will argue that he isn't as dedicated and intense as anyone, he trusts his teammates too much (in both the regular season, as well as in the clutch), just as he is trusting and loyal to the t'wolves, the city, and mchale. whether he doesn't realize his own skill and worth, or he simply exhibits unwavering loyalty not common in today's game, his talent is somewhat clouded by this element of his personality. he defers to too many people in too many situations, and that untimately will hurt his legacy. thanks for the comment.
i am an avid steelers, timberwolves, and tarheels fan, as well as KG, Griffey, Tiger, and Hines Ward fanatic. i am a recent college grad who has entered the real world, but who has not completely forgotten my dream of being an owner, superagent, or sports beat writer. although my life path will most probably not lead me to one of these destinations, i do have the undying itch to write about and debate both past and current sports topics. this arena affords me the ability to scratch.