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Jul 07, 2008 | 10:24PM | report this

The Prototypical West Coast Offense Running Back

 

There has been a great deal of debate about whether or not Seattle improved its running game with the free agent acquisitions of Julius Jones and TJ Duckett. The doubters contend they are has-been running backs and that they should be considered backups. Their supporters contend they were not getting a fair shake with their previous teams and their numbers prove they can still get the job done. The doubters miss the biggest difference; the offensive systems in which they played.

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 Neither Dallas (where Jones came from), or Detroit (where Duckett came from) run a West Coast Offense (WCO).  Why should that matter? What is the WCO? The WCO simplified is 60% pass/40% run: spreading the defense over a much bigger area of the field, both horizontally and vertically; creating mismatches in the speed, size, or number of receivers defenders try to cover. While potentially throwing on any down and any distance to avoid tendencies that defenses could key on; simultaneously maintaining possession through the air instead of solely on the ground.

Well in the WCO to catch passes and block are valued equally with a running back’s ability to run the ball. These abilities haven’t been combined in a Seattle tail back since Ricky Watters. In the recent past with Shaun Alexander at tail back Holmgren used a balanced attack with 50% run/50% pass. Alexander was a power runner who was a terrible blocker and poor receiver. He just didn’t fit the WCO. Mo Morris did a better job in all these areas last year while filling in for Shaun Alexander; but without a backup to spell him he wore down as the game and season progressed. Last year proved Morris just doesn’t have the size (he is 20 lbs lighter than Jones and 40 lbs lighter than Duckett) to be an every down back for more than a game or two.

 Now with the additions of Jones and Duckett the Seahawks have three tail backs that can pass block for Hasselbeck, or slide into the flat and catch the short dump off pass. Rotating these three backs will keep them fresh all season, and most importantly they’ll be able to run whatever play coach Holmgren calls.

 What is a prototypical WCO running back? This is a back that might break 1,000 yds rushing if he was the feature back; but would also be one of the teams leading receivers. In fact, he could even lead in both categories as Roger Craig did in 1985 (1050 yds rushing & 1016 yds receiving).  They have to be able to pick up any blitz with a good solid block, otherwise the QB can be blindsided.  Sure hands and the ability to run after the catch are essential. They frequently turn a short pass reception into a big gain. Stamina is very important especially if the team only has one feature back. Over the course of the season they typically would have more pass receptions than rushing attempts. All of these qualities with even stronger blocking ability are also required of the fullback. John L. Williams comes to mind here. TJ Duckett is a possibility to move to fullback as has been suggested by coach Holmgren.

In conclusion, is Seattle’s run game improved? Probably, my previous blog explained zone blocking and how it will also help the run game. Even more importantly for the first time in years (except for a part of last season when Morris filled-in) Holmgren will have all the tools to properly run his much loved WCO. This year the advantages of running a true WCO will make Holmgren’s play calling less predictable and harder to defend.

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WestSeattle
Jul 8, 2008
12:11 AM
NICE!

Very well put. Can't argue much with this post, nor would I argue with it.......LOL.

Good reading buddy!

scud0981
Jul 8, 2008
3:19 AM
ok but why pick up the kid from cal after you sign duckett and jones and you already have a good back in morris who proved last season that he is up for the starting position??

patsrock07
Jul 8, 2008
5:12 AM
Nice Post,

I can't argue with the fact that the Seahawks will be able to run the ball effectively again. I'm not sold on how TJ Duckett will fit in, but Justin Forsett should fit in very well as a scat back.

PF
Jul 8, 2008
7:21 AM
I think Jones will be a better version of Mo Morris, and Duckett will only be used to punch it in from the goal line.

spirit523
Jul 8, 2008
12:28 PM
scud0981- thats because you can never have too many runningbacks, and the seahawks faculty thinks so. jones is already mid to late 20's i believe, and i think we only signed a 4 year contract with him, so that kid from cal is more of a future option.

Seahawksown9ers!
Jul 8, 2008
1:17 PM
Scud0981,

Forsett will most likely be a special teamer. Our KR is now a full time wide out and we lost some key guys on the coverage team. His speed should make him a solid return man. This is all assuming that he makes the team which is never a given for a 7th round pick.

Calif.Rich
Jul 8, 2008
3:18 PM
A nice post on what we Niner fans already know all about.

I hate to burst the bubble as neither of your offseason pickups are prototypical west coast backs. Jones high in receptions for his career thus far is only 35. The other years were far below that. Duckett meanwhile has a career high of 11 passes caught in a season.

Gore meanwhile caught 53 in our offense last year. He is what you would call a prototypical west coast back. We however have abandoned that for some dumb ignorant reason. Once again thank Bill Walsh for your offensive success.....

Seahawksown9ers!
Jul 8, 2008
7:35 PM
I don't think you fully read Hawkwiz's post Calif.Rich.

Of course Jones only has 35 catches in a season. Jones never played in a west coast system until now so he never had a big role in the passing game. The point is that he is a capable back in the passing game.

Also Romo rarely has to do check passes to the backs when you have Terrell Owens and Jason Witten open 20 yards down the field.

I agree that Duckett is not a typical WCO RB, but he is capable of moving the chains and if you argue that you must be missing part of you frontal lobe.

Last edited by Seahawksown9ers! on July 8th at 7:40 PM.

Calif.Rich
Jul 9, 2008
9:03 AM
Seahawksown,

Well, good luck with your stable of running backs. Capable Jones may be prototypical he is not. He won't even be on the field on 3rd down. There was a reason Barber was the 3rd down back over Jones, and consequently took Jones' job. Don't you think that there could be a reason he was rarely used in the passing game?

Dallas did check down quite a bit last year. Barber and Jones combined for 67 receptions, 44 for Barber, only 23 to Jones. Dallas checked to their backs 73 times. By my count the seahawks checked down or had 79 completions to their backs.

You should take a look at the stats before letting your frontal lobe make decisions for you. Typical Hawk fan, run the mouth without the stats to back their rant.

As for Duckett, I never said he couldn't move the chains. I said he is not a WCO back. Maybe you should read what it is I have to say? There is a reason why Duckett is joining his 4th team in 4 years.

hawkwiz
Jul 9, 2008
10:13 AM
TJ Duckett spent 4 yrs with the Falcons who at the time ran a WCO and proved he could catch out of the backfield very well. Then 1 yr with the skins and 1 yr with the lions, who just plain didn't know how to utilize him. His 4 yrs with Atlanta proved he could be not just a short yardage runner but catch a pass out in the flats.
As far as Dallas doing just as many check downs that is exactly my point with Alexander in most of the season Seattle couldn't run the WCO. While Jones was in dallas he proved he could catch and had excellent hands. Parcells just wanted the power runner and didn't value the back as a reciever, because Dallas doesn't run a WCO.
My point of this whole article was to point out that they are indeed a good fit for a true WCO, unlike Alexander.

WestSeattle
Jul 9, 2008
10:25 AM
hawkwiz,

You stole the words right out of my mouth.

Calif.,

Not to be harsh, but I think you've missed the point and should re-read hawkwiz post.

Calif.Rich
Jul 9, 2008
10:31 AM
Well, I guess we will have to wait and see. I just don't see it.

WestSeattle
Jul 9, 2008
10:41 AM
*Julius Jones was not in WCO in Dallas.
*Seattle never had a WCO type RB.
*Holmgren WCO + Julius Jones who can catch a ball= Possibly a complete WCO

Cali,

You're right though...we shall see.

Seahawksown9ers!
Jul 9, 2008
10:47 AM
A=WCO
B=back who can catch
C=WCO RB (may not be Craig but still a WCO RB)

A+B+=C its a simple formula

Calif.Rich
Jul 9, 2008
10:51 AM
As simple as you may love to make it seem....it is not as easy as ABC...Like I said we will see.

Reecey_77020
Jul 11, 2008
8:53 PM
OK HAwkwizz. I reported you for being insightful and teaching the uninformed. LOL! I might have to look for your blogs more often. I really like reading your info man. Catch you some time later. Have a good one, and enjoy your weekend.

nate49er
Jul 14, 2008
8:43 AM
3 a crowd you have 2 too maney rbs there dude!!!! theres going to be 2 upset rbs i dont get ball cry cry cry.3rbs just one football this will end bad for you guys.49ers win the nfc west.BOOK IT!!!! GOOOOOOOOOO 49ERS GOOOOOOO!

hawkwiz
Jul 14, 2008
2:06 PM
Nate you don't fool me I know that is really a Seahawk hat you are wearing.

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