Cajun ####e and everything that's not so nice...
by: gambit1974
Marion wants out of Phoenix...
Sep 26, 2007 | 8:48AM | report this
Shaun Marion is reporting he feels his time with the Phoenix Suns is past due. The report comes from the Arizona Republic the states official news paper. Marion has found his name in trade talks recently with the Utah Jazz and the Los Angeles Lakers. Marion told sporting news .com by phone that he would welcome a trade to the Lakers to be able to play with good friend Kobe Bryant. "You have a great organazation, great ownership there with the Lakers. I don't see any problem playing there."  It would be a good move for both Marion and the Lakers to get a deal done. The Lakers could use another player that could score in bunches to help Kobe Bryant and Marion would probably go back to playing the position he is built  to play. If the Lakers do not pull the trigger on this trade it will (Atleast I would think so) be another situation like the one with Jason Kidd... a very frustrated Kobe wanting out of an organaztion that refuses to get him some serious help. But making a trade for Marion would probably cost the Lakers Lamar Odom and are they willing to part with him is anybody's guess. Marion is the highest paid player on the Suns roster with two years remaining on his contract and rumor is he wants a three year extension worth $ 60 million that he would neither deny nor confirm. "Regardless of the extension talks, I'm tired of hearing my name in trade rumors" said Marion. "It's time for me to move on. I feel like they tried to force my hand to boston with the Garnett stuff."  It's the nature of the bussiness. No one ever wants to leave a team they have had so much success playing for. If you Ask me the Lakers would be fools not to do whatever it takes to get Marion in a Laker uniform. As a huge Laker fan, I welcome the trade and Marion to the team. He would be a valuable asset to the Lakers going deeper in the playoffs than the last couple of years. Kobe needs help and although I love Derick Fisher, he is not the answer to L.A.'s playoff woes. We need someone with some serious skills and a aggresive aproach to the game. Marion can bring that to this team. He's a scorer and a great rebounder. Unlike some 7" foot people on this team who are panzies in my opinion. So I am asking other Laker fans on this site what do you think? Should they make the deal provided it doesn't cost to many players. Or should they stick to what they have?  Never the less the NBA season hasn't started but it seems like things will be heating up soon. I Love this Game!
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JoshQPublic
Sep 26, 2007
9:58 AM
he sure would look good in green. celtic green.

gambit1974
Sep 26, 2007
10:02 AM
JoshQPublic-report was he was going to go to Boston and garnet to pheonix with MInn. getting d5aft picks for the deal but he nixed that trade from happening. he did not want to be there.

Purple and Gold fit him well though

ricko
Sep 26, 2007
10:06 AM
I'm hoping I'll wake up soon and this is all a bad dream. Trading Marion in no way makes the Suns a better team.

gambit1974
Sep 26, 2007
10:11 AM
ricko- I agree but it does make the Lakers better if he ends up there.

ricko
Sep 26, 2007
10:29 AM
What's next? Anquan Boldin to the cowboys? Eric Byrnes to the Yankees?

Keep me away from sharp objects.

gambit1974
Sep 26, 2007
10:33 AM
ricko i've hidden all the knives in the garage... oh wait damn got to move them again.

JoshQPublic
Sep 26, 2007
10:37 AM
the suns will be in big trouble without him

gambit1974
Sep 26, 2007
10:40 AM
I fully agree with you the suns will be missing a vital part of their team.

pumpdude
Sep 26, 2007
10:44 AM
I think Shawn is just hyping his position for an extension. I doubt that "if" the Suns do trade him, it would be to a conference foe.

gambit1974
Sep 26, 2007
11:03 AM
pumpdude thing is players have the right to turn away trades in B-Ball. So for the right players and money. Not to mention the expiring contracts that teams love to trade for you never know what will happen.

Birbon14
Sep 26, 2007
2:19 PM
I think they should make the trade. If it has to be Odom, so what. I like Odom, but he hasn't contributed that much being on the sideline in civilian clothes. Marion can move without the ball and when Kobe drives the lane, he has an oop or a dish to Marion for the dunk. It's a no brainer. I also agree that if the Lakers don't do this, it will be just like the Kidd situation, which I still can't believe. What a missed opportunity there. Oh, one more thing. Although Marion's shot is disgusting, it works. The Lakers need another outside shooter, especially from outside the arc. And D-Fish is not the answer for the playoffs. Once again, love D-Fish and that awesome shot against the Spurs in the playoffs (can't remember year or game number), but Fish is no Nick Van Exel. I miss those years.

Last edited by Birbon14 on September 26th at 2:23 PM.

chitownsfinest
Sep 26, 2007
2:27 PM
I think Shawn Marion is making a huge mistake. The same can be said for any team that acquires him. In my opinion, Shawn Marion is the ultimate system player. The guy is an athletic freak, but i dont think even he realizes just how much a part of his game Steve Nash and the D'Antoni system is. He doesn't have the handle to create his own shot and while he has all of the "intangibles" and picks up points off of broken plays and making cuts, he isn't the type of player that will aleviate the pressure on Kobe Bryant. Kobe needs somebody that is a consistent outside shooter that can also create his own shot on a consistent basis. At the least Kobe needs himself someone in the mold of a Steve Kerr, i.e. a player that will make doubling a potentially costly mistake.

ricko
Sep 26, 2007
3:02 PM
chitown-I've heard a lot of people say that today, and I have to disagree. Marion was a huge factor for the Suns before Nash and D'Antoni got here. While he may not be stellar in any one area, Marion makes any team better, because he does so many things well, probably more so than anyone playing today.

gambit1974
Sep 26, 2007
3:35 PM
Birbon14- I agree Odom is good but he is doesn't do the team any good from the sideline.

Chitown-Have to disagree with you on that. as ricko said he was good befor that system was in place. Also his stats are better than odoms. and he is only 18 months older than Odom. One thing he can do Odom can't is hit more outside shots. especialy from the 3-point line. Also Odom is only good driving to his left creating a shot that's hard to block because he's left handed. Marion isn't the player he was 3-4 years ago but still better than most and better than they could afford for a few years.

Last edited by gambit1974 on September 26th at 3:46 PM.

chitownsfinest
Sep 26, 2007
3:50 PM
Before Nash arrived in Pheonix, the Suns were junk. On any team, whether top of the line or bottom of the barrell, a couple of players are going to put up impressive stats. Shawn Marion was that man on the Suns of old. With Kobe running the show in LA, i dont think Marion would be what the Lakers need. His numbers would still be solid, but he isnt the type of player that puts the Lakers near the top of the West. Just my opinion.

J-DIZZLE
Sep 26, 2007
3:51 PM
Kidd to Lakers.

Garnett to Lakers.

O'Neal to Lakers.

And now Matrix to Lakers.

So far Kupchak hasn't had the balls and the ball sack to pull the trigger.

This is all nothing but pure speculation. Like the ESPN Trade Machine.

gambit1974
Sep 26, 2007
4:15 PM
J-DIZZLE Mitch is a #### I agree.

ricko
Sep 26, 2007
4:24 PM
J-DIZZ-This just in!!! Marion for Kobe straight up!!! WTF!!!!!!!!




















Okay. I made it up.

J-DIZZLE
Sep 26, 2007
4:34 PM
RICKO: Already in regular season form... glad to see that nothing has changed as far as your comments are concerned.

Let's me know you are ready to see your SUNS fail once again in '08.

ARE U READY FOR SOME B-BALL?

ricko
Sep 26, 2007
4:38 PM
"Let's me know you are ready to see your SUNS fail once again in '08."

I see you are in mid-season form as well, J.

Touche.

I'm not sure if I'm ready for some B-ball or not. If Marion gets moved, it could be a long year. Stay tuned.

whatajoke
Sep 26, 2007
4:49 PM
As a suns fan and as much as I would hate to see him leave if he does I would rather see the suns get something for him now in Odom then have him go free agent and get nothing for him and if you can pick up a Cook or a Walton on top of it that only adds a little depth that the Suns have needed for a long time. I feel like listening to break up songs in a dark room with a bottle of whiskey...

gambit1974
Sep 26, 2007
4:53 PM
whatajoke-you might get cook or even garbage #### Kwame but luke just signed an extension with the lakers doubt he is going anywhere

ricko
Sep 26, 2007
4:55 PM
Hey whatajoke-Here are my feelings. You take your chances with Marion the next two seasons. If he leaves as a free agent, it's not like you're getting nothing for him. You're getting a bunch of $$ freed up to sign someone else. But trading him now will be the beginning of the end for the Suns.

whatajoke
Sep 26, 2007
4:57 PM
I wouldn't go that far Barbosa, Diaw, Amare and Bell are a good core group. A few more pieces with some freed up cap money and they will still be a good team. I just really like the Matrix.

J-DIZZLE
Sep 26, 2007
5:51 PM
Ricko: You may not be ready for the season, but I know you'll be watching...

and blogging...

GO LAKERS!! WIth or without JO, Kidd, and the Matrix.

JoshQPublic
Sep 26, 2007
6:21 PM
getting odom is getting nothing for him

Lisa H
Sep 26, 2007
6:33 PM
ricko...im pulling for your suns.... or the mavs, as well as my celts, just anyone but the spurs. marion is needed in phoenix...this isn't good for da suns.

slshusker
Sep 26, 2007
6:42 PM
Even if a trade happens, it'll likely send him East. No way the Suns want him in the conference or division. Who can they get in return!

J-DIZZLE
Sep 26, 2007
6:59 PM
Last night, I simulated the entire upcoming season on the X-Box 360 with all of the updated lineups, transactions, and trades.

I even created the top rookies (Oden, Durant, Conley, Noah, etc..) and assigned them to their respective teams.

The results were surprising but certainly plausible: Heat over Celtics in seven in the East Finals. Lakers over Spurs in seven in the West Finals. Heat over Lakers in six in the NBA Finals.

Lisa H
Sep 26, 2007
7:53 PM
dizz...my Celts were in the finals? I'll take that...woo hoo! You made my day!

whatajoke
Sep 26, 2007
8:16 PM
There are so many trades that could happen with Marion. You could really go after a center and put Amare in the PF or you could go for a back up PG to give Nash a rest. Even without Marion I think the Suns are a playoff team. I hope they find a way to keep him Suns are a better team with him and he has been a great player for them the last 8 years but if they keep him it will be the same old attitude of "I'm under appreciated" and "MO MONEY" jive.

J-DIZZLE
Sep 26, 2007
8:25 PM
The Suns should have gone after Gerald Wallace for Marion, who would have been a perfect compliment to Nash, Amare, Bell, Barbosa, etc...

Wallace is not only an exemplary defender (maybe not as proven as Matrix but just as adequate), but he possess the ability to create off the dribble and make the pull-up mid-range shot, something the Matrix truly lacks.

Too bad it didn't happen and now the Suns may be forced to trade him for less value.

J-DIZZLE
Sep 26, 2007
8:27 PM
LISA: Yes they were, but that was the East Finals where they lost to the Heat.

Their main problem in the video game simulation was lack of production at the PG spot. Smush Parker actually outplayed Rajon Rondo in the seven-game series.

Eddie House was your lone bright spot at the PG spot, and I actually believe he will have a breakout year with the Celts.

whatajoke
Sep 26, 2007
8:30 PM
Eddie House ROTFLMAO!!!! GOOD GRAVY!!! Pass it over here J-Dizzle I need a big hit of that stuff.

whatajoke
Sep 26, 2007
8:35 PM
I'd see if you could trade Marion for T-Mac and send him to the Rockets. I think that would be a good deal for both teams.

J-DIZZLE
Sep 26, 2007
8:59 PM
whatajoke: Take a puff off my new blog, then I'll let you take a rip off the vaporizer.

T-Mac to the Suns for Marion? What a joke! The only way to make that deal happen is to do it on the X-Box.

whatajoke
Sep 26, 2007
9:36 PM
They should trade Marion for Eddie House... lol I hear he is having a break out year this season...

TrueBlue63
Sep 26, 2007
9:38 PM
Matrix for Odom?! Hell Yeah! Odom is a waste with the Laker's! Hes been a waste for the past three year! constantly getting injured, is not a number 2 man (more of a number 3 roll player) and has never proven anything. Why do you think other teams trade him. Sure hes a nice guy but thats not going to win us championships. If Kupchak doesn't pull the trigger on this one he is dumb piece of BLEEP! Thats whats wrong with GM he doesn't have the Cajones! And for all you wanna be Laker fans start acting like it. We have to be fans of the Laker's not Fans of the players!

gambit1974
Sep 27, 2007
6:15 AM
TrueBlue63- I agree with you. I've been a fan of the lakers since I was a lil boy. Don't get me wrong I'm a fan of Kobe also but team comes first.

MeanDovine
Sep 27, 2007
7:21 AM
Sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name.

But, uh, this certainly can't be Marion's gripe.

Last edited by MeanDovine on September 27th at 7:22 AM.

tigervidmar
Sep 27, 2007
7:29 AM
steve kerr has no feel for da deal.., he's a basketball nerd .. marion is the real deal...how they put these ex-players into power positions i'll never know ...

gambit1974
Sep 27, 2007
7:34 AM
Mean he has now spoken to Kobe about it and Kobe is asking the Lakers to look into it. Thing is though Mitch the #### said they will make no moves befor camp begins.

gambit1974
Sep 27, 2007
7:36 AM
personaly tiger I don't know either.I realy don't care for Kerr or his opinions anyway.

MeanDovine
Sep 27, 2007
7:45 AM
Mitch knows he can't pull off a deal to bring Marion to L.A. so why embarrass himself ... again.

gambit1974
Sep 27, 2007
7:50 AM
yeah but he could have pulled off the kidd trade and didn't. besides he's an embarrassment to the title GM period not to mention the Lakers.

Last edited by gambit1974 on September 27th at 7:51 AM.

MeanDovine
Sep 27, 2007
7:55 AM
LOL!

gambit1974
Sep 27, 2007
8:00 AM
hey mean checkout the new post I just put up it's rather interesting look at the jena six situation in Louisiana

MeanDovine
Sep 27, 2007
8:07 AM
You're asking a lot. A WHOLE lot.

I tend to stay away from the racial stuff ... unless someone's acting like a jerk about it, or I'm in a more appropriate forum for it.

You seem like the brave sort so I'll have a look, but don't expect too much.

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