Really? Is anyone surprised that the NAACP is just now getting involved? I think everyone needs to read this article from CNN. If you're not as appalled by what Mr. White had to say in this article than I am...then I give up.
"White also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable."
UNBELIEVABLE!!!
If you agree with Mr. White, I'm saddened by your obvious bias. If you cannot see the difference in torturing dogs and hunting deer, you need to be examined for a loose lugnut, Mr. White included. Not to mention the fact that Mr. White feels that Vick should not be treated any different than any other NFL player who has made mistakes. Didn't I read somewhere where Vick lied to Mr. Goodell, the Falcons, and to a judge when he pleaded "not guilty"? How is that not perjury, by the way? That's about all I got to say about that.
The NAACP stands for National Association of Coloured People. I'm African American or "BLACK" as so many prefer.What I am NOT is a "coloured person" so I guess the NAACP doesn't speak for me. Oh wait. They don't speak for anyone except those few ignorant thugz that they always seem to find a way to step forward for. They lost the rest of us when they became the spokesperson for thugz.
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Thanks Mark. It's pretty obvious that the Atlanta chapter of the NAACP has no clue when it comes to reality. They have their blinders on. To them, it's about race...nothing else. It isn't about equality, it's about "what can I get outta this". It's really sad.
fatmaw
The NAACP are about as relevant now as ice in a snowdrift. Organizations like that have lost support amongst most African Americans. As they no longer feel that they're being properly represented by the organization. They're too self absorbed in their own self importance that they've got the real reason they're there in the first place. I feel the same way also about the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. This same organization were suggesting that it'd be still their intention to give Vick a civic honor. However those two buffoons have remained extremely silent with regard to this topic. I think you know the individuals I'm speaking of, Jackson and Sharpton.
They've obviously seen the error of their ways from their past deeds.
Leave it to the idiots of the NAACP to support him just because he's black.
He didn't make a mistake.... It's not like he needed the money from running a dog fighting ring. He tortured, brutalized, and killed dogs for his own pleasure and entertainment. That's not a mistake, that's pure EVIL.
I certainly hope he gets banned/at least suspended for a significant period of time. It is highm time pro players learn they have to obey the laws as the rest of us mortals. By the way, PERJURY is lying while UNDER OATH, not just saying Not Guilty/perjury is also somewhat hard to prove in a DECENT Court of Law. Of course ya all know why they are after Vick (and it's not just because he is black, but that does have something to do with it-the Feds are not color blind as they claim). Fuzz
Vick should be banned from the NFL for life, not only because he is a thug, he lied about his bottle of water, drug user ( bottle of water, again ), he flipped the bird to the fans, and not to mention a heartless #### that does not deserve the privilage that is playing in the NFL. Besides, he sucks, there has only been one true and successful running QB, Steve Young, and there will never be another one. GO NINERS !!!!!!!!!
The funny thing to me is that everyone is overlooking what is about to happen with the state charges and thinking he's only going to get 12 to 18 months. In the state of Virginia it's a maximum of 5 years in prision for each animal that was tortured and killed. He could be facing up to 40 more years in prison and Virginia has already said they are going to procecute.
Hey Matt!
The biggest difference between dog fighting and deer hunting, in this context, is dog fighting is ILLEGAL!
I haven't heard anything about the NAACP, or Mr. White trying to ban hunting prior to this case..... so they should prolly just shut up and relax.
Also.... I think we'll find the majority of the charges will have to do with gambling, and money laundering.
Fuzz...it isn't race until someone brings up the race card. That's how I see it. You have been in law enforcement though...obviously you've seen things I haven't. So I certainly respect your opinion on the matter. Thanks for stopping by.
Chux, Bald, Fd...thanks for stopping by. I'm sure everyone is sick of reading about Vick. But when i saw that article on CNN...I couldn't resist the urge to make the NAACP look like idiots. They've done a very nice job of doing that.
Gerbil...it is interesting that big Al hasn't so much as spoke a peep out of this whole ordeal. However, now that the NAACP has gotten involved, I wouldn't be surprised to see he and Jesse come out of the wood works. Afterall, their fellow racists has just made that organization look stupid with their comments in Atlanta.
Top...I agree. It's good to see those who see things for the way they are...and not how they want them to be. Your opinion is always a welcome sight. Hope your brother is doing well...safe at least.
if hunting deer is a proper sport than they should take up the ban on dog fighting wrong dont right nobody harming animals is harming animals duuuhhhhh!!!!
yea this doesnt serprise me , now the race card is in place, DS double standrds again, becasue of his flesh color he can do any damn thing he wants!!! ok let him out knuckleheads, let him drive how ever fast he wants, not pay taxes, rob banks, and be a criminal becasue of his flwsh color... and get away with it.. i was waiting for these people to come forward
bamadog...if you don't see the difference in hunting deer and torturing dogs, then you are part of the problem. I honestly believe there is no hope for people like you. You look for excuses to exonerate Vick...and diverting attention away from the real crime is everyone's favorite way of doing it. You need to check your lugnuts...they're a little loose. I wonder if you would be feeling the same way if you heard a dog screaming from being electrocuted or shot numerous times...not once like deer are shot (thru the heart). A suffereing screaming dog will send chills up your spine.
kelly...why don't you tell us how you really feel..LOL!! I wouldn't quite take it that far. I don't believe skin color will get you out of jail for robbing a bank. If anything black people are profiled more often than any other skin color...which would actually mean the opposite of what you said.
However, I do believe the NAACP is full of knuckleheads..you did get that one right.
That's why I hate safari's. They're nothing but trophy hunts. I've seen a video posted online where a hunter shoots a lion in Africa..it only makes the lion mad...so he gets up after the bullet knocks him down and runs straight at the guy who shot him. The lion leaps at him and just misses. The rest of the man's "posse" shoots and kills the lion. I almost wanted to see that lion get hold of that guy. Now who eats a lion? NOBODY!!!
Here in North Carolina, the deer population is unreal. We have deer claims on a daily basis here in my office. They are literally everywhere. I don't like to see them shot. But I know of NO ONE here who shoots it for the heck of it. EVERYONE I know stores the meat away for the winter. It's an unfortunate situation when humans are taking over land once occupied by animals. I guess at some point we have to legalize it so that we are not overrun by them.
This being said, I'm not a hunter either. Native Americans and our early Pioneers would hunt for food. The difference is, they had respect for the animals. The animals were reveared as almost "god-like". They weren't killed for fun..and they were killed as quickly as possible. I do know that this is the way animals are treated here. They may not be looked upon as "god-like"..but they are respected.
Dog fighting is NOT hunting..it is barbaric brutality. There is a difference. If you can't see it....you have issues!!!
Goof one fat! I can't believe the ignorance of some people in high places. When is the last time you heard someone torturing a dog as a means to keep down disease and wild dog populations? God bless this guy is a ####.
LSU...thanks for stopping by. We're really seeing who the people with a conscience are on this blogsite. We're also seeing the real racists. If people can't get past race on this issue, then there is no hope.
Wow the naacp has really stooped to a new low., If that is what there leadership thinks then the whole crows is in deep ****. Get some values , morals, learn human decency , get some standards, Comparing deer hunting to dog killing? Well guess you will try anything but you showed your colors here, an your brains, or lack of. Good luck selling your thoughts (or lack of ) to any decent person of any race. Xenababy
Ultra...WOW!!! I actually agreed with you on something..and you're already starting up with your dung. Guess you know what this means....
Trying to bring Bush and his boys into this again? This has nothing to do with our government Ultra...it is about CHOICES people make. I had a nice little comment that fed off of yours...now you want to start another knock down drag out...do it on your own blog...not this one...
I said #### Cheney. I didn't mention Bush or the government.
It is a fact that #### Cheney goes quail hunting. And you know how he does it? He fences off the area, has the wings clipped off of the quails, and searches for them in a car. When he finds one, the car is stopped, he gets out, and shoots it.
And, like I said, if you're going to push religion on other people, you should at least have the decency to follow your own religion, which preaches not to judge others.
It's called justification. In todays America it has replaced accountability. And it isn't just a black thing either, it permeates every culture, every economic class, and it is insideous. We have become a "not my fault" country, if not world. It is soooo much easier to blame society, racism, to point to something else (hunting) no matter how ridiculous the comparison. If you examine all the argument in favor of MV, none contain the slightest iota of fact; none consider accountability; all are justification.
It's because he's black, what he did is no different than hunting, it's only dogs, why are the feds wasting resources when there are murderers and pedofiles on the loose, etc, etc, etc.
Does noone see this is all justification based on misplaced hero worship? If you want to continue to be blinded as you worship at the alter of Vick, well ok, but it doesn't change the fact that if you play you pay.
Ultra...this is a blogsite. We all have opinions. Because I believe a certain way doesn't mean my opinion is no better...or better than anyone else's. I have said on MANY occasions (which you obviously haven't read) that I'm not perfect. If I believe there is a difference in torturing animals for kicks...and hunting animals for food...you can call it judging...or whatever you like. But there IS a difference. If you don't see that...you need to check your marbles. Did you not read my comment after your first comment all the way thru?
Stop coming on MY blog and telling ME to stop judging others...when I am simply posting MY opinion on the matter. What's wrong with you dude? I agree with you..and you still find a way to start up this dung. I get what you're saying about Cheney. But that is irrelevant to what my post was about.
I simply mentioned #### Cheney and you assume I'm blasting the right-wing. You're incredible. You will take anything I say, spin it around and make a huge strawman argument out of it.
My reasoning for mentioning Cheney is because he is one of the most prominent proponents of hunting, and it was a great way to show what type of hunting I was referring to as barbaric.
I'm sorry analogies are too intellectual for you, but I thought most people learn them in middle school. I guess they don't teach you that in the Marines.
Ultra...I won't even respond to your comment..simply because you threw out the first insult..
"I'm sorry analogies are too intellectual for you, but I thought most people learn them in middle school. I guess they don't teach you that in the Marines."
It just saddens me that our society has become so purely stupid by the fact that these people actually have the ability to voice their absurdities in a public forum. We should get taken over by the Chinese in a matter of decades. Very, very sad.
"Don't Judge" is a concept from the bible that is vastly misunderstood by both Christians and non- Christians alike - not preaching just informative. Life REQUIRES judging; the bible states we should not hang out with certain types of people, which requires us to "judge" these people at some level, for example. It's too complicated a subject for a sports blog, but many try to use it as a club to shut up the opinions they don't like, esp. if that opinion comes from a person of faith. It's a "type" of judging that is forbidden, and if interested read the context of Luke chapter 6: it is about judging your enemies vs. showing them mercy and compassion.
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Well it has come to fruition that uneducated people have found out that you don't need school to make money. Look at Tom Cruise. Look at any Hollywood actor....lol. And when you have money behind you, the sky is the limit. So we get #### bags commenting on things that the media will happily pick up on b/c it gives them that 10 second sound bite for the 6 o'clock news. Another way the media creates policy and stereotypes.
You see what this guy's comments will do is stir up the 2nd Amendment right once again b/c it gives PETA another way to look at hunting in general, it wil also give the politicians and their groups ammo to be against guns.
Did you know that OSHA was trying to undermine the 2nd Amendment Fat? They were trying to ban ammo for all guns underneath one of their by-laws. It was actually a very smart play, but it didn't pan out because the NRA and others saw what they were trying to do. Hey if you can't take the guns, go after the ammo.
Anyone who thinks Michael Vick deserves a chance in the NFL again is absolutely nuts!!!!! He is not only a cold-hearted, lying thug, but a disgrace to the NFL and to Atlanta. I live in Atlanta and think he was personally overated to begin with. What he did was unforgiveable and what about those 50 pit bulls that will now be put down because they are unadoptable, don't they deserve a second chance. It makes me sick to think that someone with that much money and power couldn't find some other form of entertainment that watching dogs kill each other and killing them himself!!! I think he is getting off easy and I think the government should be ashamed that they even made a plea deal with him. I love football and the NFL and as far as I'm concerned, I will never watch another NFL game that Michael Vick is playing in and I know I'm not the only one who feels that way. It is already obvious that he will never play for the Falcons again, and people are already unloading their tickets because he is still a member of the team.
It just saddens me that our society has become so purely stupid by the fact that these people actually have the ability to voice their absurdities in a public forum.
Voltaire once said, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
And it's also the basis of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
That people are allowed to voice "absurdities" also gives you the right to voice your opinion, you know.
it wil also give the politicians and their groups ammo to be against guns.
The NRA has a powerful lobby... if the majority of politicians were anti-guns, there'd be more gun restrictions.
By the way, LSU, the Second Amendement only grants us the right to bear arms if we are attempting to overthrow our government. The Second Amendment doesn't grant us the right to carry around hunting rifles, or anything like that.
You guys really need to brush up on your Constitution.
As for the Bible, I personally give the book no credibility whatsoever. It also says that light and darkness are created after the water but before the sun.
The 2nd Amendment is inside the Bill of Rights which is for 'We the People". We have had the right to carry guns around since the inception of this country Ultra. Just b/c a bunch of communist slave-wanters want to take them away, doesn't change that fact. If it was not constiutional to have or own a gun, then they would have taken them at the creation of the country.
Maybe you should brush up on your history chief. Instead of reading revisionist history books.
Unless of course you can explain how you can create a militia without any weapons in the first place. ####.
fatmaw(Matt)
Thanks for asking about my brother. He's doing fine and is actually home away from all the turmoil. He's due back to Iraq in the first week of September. So for now he's spending time with his immediate family. I've been speaking to him as much as I can within reason. We'll keep in touch via email upon his return to Iraq.
As for the Vick situation it seems to be a neverending saga. Once and for all it ought to end now. There's not much more that can really be said on the matter. However if you go over to my rampantfanatic site you'll see my take on the whole thing. It's entitled To All My People In Da House. Make of it what you will as it's just my own take.
fatmaw(Matt)
Thanks for asking about my brother. He's doing fine and is actually home away from all the turmoil. He's due back to Iraq in the first week of September. So for now he's spending time with his immediate family. I've been speaking to him as much as I can within reason. We'll keep in touch via email upon his return to Iraq.
As for the Vick situation it seems to be a neverending saga. Once and for all it ought to end now. There's not much more that can really be said on the matter. However if you go over to my rampantfanatic site you'll see my take on the whole thing. It's entitled To All My People In Da House. Make of it what you will as it's just my own take.
fatmaw
However if you find that too much of a bore then you can always check out my latest under the tophatal guise. Not Necessarily
Two Different Cultures But We Do Have Something In Common Don't We ? Nothing like a Brit commenting on the apparent culture differences between US and British sport's fans.
Ultra, the bible is fiction in your opinion, and that is ok by me. But my question is, if the bible is a work of fiction in your opinion, what authority, law, or even guideline do you apply to tell someone not to judge? The bible is the only authoritative doc I know of that has such a dictate, and if it is not authoritative to you, then don't use it at all. At least be consistent.
If the NFL cannot bann him for dog fighting/animal cruelity how about the gambling involved in this event. Pete Rose never came back to baseball.
For Mr. White's benefit there are laws that prevent the torture of hunted animals. Dog fighting in it self is pure torture of a beautiful animal.
Top..good to hear about your brother. I'm still praying for his safety!! I've tried finding your Vick post under Ramp..and can't find it. Can you leave me the link on this blog or in a privage message? I would appreciate it. I read your other one, on the similarities between England and the U.S. I guess our biggest difference is in soccer/football. I don't think that'll ever change. Thanks for stopping by.
sorry fat my bad. I was trying to explain how the NAACP bringing hunting into the mix of the Vick case will spur off anti-gun groups to run there mouths too.
From there Ultra took off with the 2nd Amendment.
But no worries I will not discuss it any further here!
Hello sports fans. My name is Matt Faw. I am from North Wilkesboro, NC. North Wilkesboro is a small town about 90 miles north of Charlotte, NC. I am a United States Marine and was very happy when we were able to follow college and professional football while deployed to Iraq in 2004. I am a die-hard Tar Heel fan. I actually grew up a huge Oakland Raider fan, a closet Chicago Bears fan, and came to be a die-hard Carolina Panthers fan after their inception into the league in 1995. Needless to say, the Raiders nor the Bears have given me much to cheer about over the years, with the exception of few good years. The Panthers have been more competitive on a more consistent basis over the past ten years than either the Raiders or the Bears. Debate on fellow sportsters. mattfaw@gmail .com
