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CHAMPIONS LEAGUE ODDS & COMMENTS
Dec 24, 2007 | 5:28AM | report this

Champions League Groups; 2007/08.

My pick will still remain as Internaz ionale to beat either Barcelona or an English team in the Final in Moscow.

Draw for first KO stage. (group winners play away leg first)

Arsenal v AC MILAN – possibly the plum tie of the round for the neutral

BARCELONA v Celtic – the Scots have a punchers’ chance with their good home record

CHELSEA v Olympiakos – much too one sided to be really good for the neutral.

INTERNAZ IONALE v Liverpool – valiant scrappers come an Italian cropper.

Lyon v MANCHESTER UNITED – One sided, to the maximum.

PORTO v Schalke 04 – who knows, both sides have surprised so it could go either way, definitely one to watch for the uncertainty factor.

REAL MADRID v Roma – possibly the plum tie of the round (anyone who knows La Liga well should speak up on this one)

SEVILLA v Fenerbache – Closer then some may think as one game is in Turkey, but you figure two consecutive UEFA Cups will be the thumb on the scales.

(Group winners in CAPS)

The odds are for winning it all; first is the odds from August; second from before the draw; finally the odds after the draw.

Liverpool

**9/1 – 11/1 – 14/1 – oops! the bookies don’t discount the reds but understand the enormity of their task.

Porto

9/1 – 50/1 – 40/1 – getting possibly the easiest draw of the first KO round has improved the odds but still a long shot.

Chelsea

6/1 – 8/1 – 6/1 – dropped back down, probably due to an easier draw.

Schalke 04

40/1 – 40/1 – two teams in the same game have their odds shortened; indecisiveness from the bookies.

Real Madrid

9/1 – 8/1 – 8/1 – stays the same; they have a really tricky and tough to call tie.

Olympiakos

150/1 – 50/1 – 100/1 – Someone thinks they have a punchers chance against Chelsea, still a long shot though

AC Milan

8/1 – 10/1 – 10/1 – The tie against a formidable team hasn’t shortened their odds, much uncertainty with this tie.

Celtic

100/1 – 50/1 – 80/1 – big increase so the bookies think Strachan’s players have only a hope in hell.

Barcelona

9/2 – 4/1 – 7/2 – they drop again, due to their opponents and smart bookies.

Lyon

18/1 – 20/1 – 25/1 lengthened again due to superiorly perceived opponents.

Manchester United

6/1 – 5/1 – 5/1 – stays the same, this suggests a win against Lyon but not anything more than a decent chance to win it all.

Roma

21/10 – 16/1 – 20/1 – the bookies see them beating Arsenal when hell freezes over.

Internaz ionale

8/1 – 9/1 – 9/1 – no change which suggests the bookies like the Italians but aren’t quite convinced.

Fenerbache

200/1 – 50/1 – 50/1 – the Turkish side could cause an upset but do YOU really think so against strong Spanish opposition?

Arsenal

8/1 – 8/1 – 8/1 – stays the same; they like the gunners but don’t want the odds to suggest anything more than a decent chance.

Sevilla

20/1 – 10/1 – 10/1 - stays the same, they like the Spaniards but don’t want the odds to suggest anything more than a decent chance

Remember the bookies aren’t exactly trying to pick the winner. They are trying to make money, so the odds reflect their understanding of the betting market and their expertize at fleecing suckers.

Expect the longer odds to change if that team does well in the first game. The stronger teams’ odds will remain fairly static at the early stages of the KO rounds as the bookmakers realize the games are actually too tough to call with any certainty.

**All Ladbrokes odds are from 31/08/2007 and then 20/12/2007 and finally 23/12/2007.

My Picks.

Internaz ionale – unless Liverpool drastically upgrade several aspects of their personnel and play the Internaz ionale Machine will roll them over.

Chelsea – too much for the Greeks; even with a (possibly) depleted side.

Roma – they have managed to overcome the toughest early Serie A schedule in many a season and still remain second. Deceptively tough.

Porto – too much for the Germans, you would think.

AC Milan – Cesc will shine, but then so will Pirlo, Ambrosini, Seedorf, Kaka and Inzaghi.

Sevilla – Ole Ole Ole Ole! the move to this stage of the Champions League will not be tougher than the UEFA Cup (yet!).

Manchester United – they win when they play less then good, very strong with possible January additions.

Barcelona – pushed hard by the Scots but the class up front will tell in the end, they’ll do it with a draw and a tight win at the Nou Camp.

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UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE DRAW 2007/08
Aug 31, 2007 | 9:38AM | report this

Champions League Draw; 2007/08. 

 

Well the groups have been decided by the men from UEFA. 

 

Pretty interesting groups and no doubt the winners and losers in each group will already be picked, plus key matches will be earmarked for viewing. 

 

This is my take.  Because bookies are generally not poor!

 

My pick will still remain as Inter Milan to beat either Barcelona or an English team in the Final in Moscow. 

 

Seeded teams in CAPS. 

 

Group A

LIVERPOOL: -

          2006/2007: Finished 3rd in Premier League, losing finalists in UEFA Champions League.  Tough away opener to Porto. 

5 times European Champions. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 9/1

Win group William Hill 4/9

 

Porto

          2006/2007: Finished as champions in Portugal.  Liverpool are their first visitors. 

2 time European Champions; 1986/87, 2003/04. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 9/1

Win group William Hill 7/2

 

Marseille

          2006/2007: Finished 2nd in Ligue 1.  Easy first game to Besiktas. 

Losing finalists in 1990/91

Win it all - Ladbrokes 50/1

Win group William Hill 6/1

 

Besiktas

          2006/2007: Finished 2nd in Turkey.  Tough away game in France. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 200/1

Win group William Hill 14/1

 

Liverpool look group favourites but Porto will be tough. 

 

 

Group B

CHELSEA

          2006/2007: Finished 2nd in Premier League,  .  Easy opener for Blues. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 6/1

Win group William Hill 8/13

Valencia

          2006/2007: Finished 4th in Primera Division,  .  Diificult German road trip. 

Losing finalist in 1999/00 & 2000/01

Win it all - Ladbrokes 20/1

Win group William Hill 15/8

Schalke 04

          2006/2007: Finished 2nd in Bundesliga.  Welcome Portugeues for their first game. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 40/1

Win group William Hill 13/2

Rosenborg

          2006/2007: Finished top in Tippeligaen.  London opener for the Swedes. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 500/1

Win group William Hill 33/1

 

Chelsea should be pushed by Schalke in theis group. 

 

Group C

REAL MADRID

          2006/2007: Primera Division Champions.  Should be a win for the Spaniards. 

9 times European Champions, last win 2001/02. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 9/1

Win group William Hill 4/6

Werder Bremen

          2006/2007: Finished 3rd in Bundesliga.  Tough Spanish opener. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 50/1

Win group William Hill 3/1

Lazio

          2006/2007: Finished 3rd in Serie A.  Tricky away fixture. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 33/1

Win group William Hill 4/1

Olympiakos

          2006/2007: Finished as Super League Champions.  Welcome the Italians for a toughie. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 150/1

Win group William Hill 12/1

 

Real Madrid clear favourites in Group C. 

 

Group D

AC MILAN

          2006/2007: Finished 4th in Serie A.  Portuegesue side to Milan. 

7 times European Champions, current holders. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 8/1

Win group William Hill 2/5

Benfica

          2006/2007: Finished 3rd in Portugal.  Tough Italian road trip. 

2 times European Champions, 1960/61 & 1961/62. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 100/1

Win group William Hill 4/1

Celtic

          2006/2007: Finished as Scottish Champions.  Difficult away game. 

First British Champions in 1966/67 and runners up in 1969/70. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 100/1

Win group William Hill 7/1

Shakhtar Donetsk

          2006/2007: Finished 2nd in Premier League.  Unofortunatetly early in the year for the Ukranian side. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 125/1

Win group William Hill 11/1

 

AC Milan are clear favourites in this group. 

 

Group E

BARCELONA

          2006/2007: Finished 2nd in Primera Division,.  Should be a home win. 

2 times European Champions,2005/06 & 1991/92. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 9/2

Win group William Hill 1/2

Lyon

          2006/2007: Ligue 1 Champions.  Tough away opener. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 18/1

Win group William Hill 12/5

Stuttgart

          2006/2007: Finished as Bundesliga Champions.  Away in Scotland. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 50/1

Win group William Hill 7/1

Rangers

          2006/2007: Finished 2nd in Scottish Premier League.  Tough home opener. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 150/1

Win group William Hill 25/1

 

Barcelona could be pushed hard by Lyon. 

 

Group F

MANCHESTER UNITED

          2006/2007: Finished 3rd in Premier League.  Tough away start. 

2 times European Champions, 1967/68 and 1999/00 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 6/1

Win group William Hill 8/13

Roma

          2006/2007: Finished 2rd in Serie A,  .  Should be a home win. 

Losing finalists in 1983/84

Win it all - Ladbrokes 21/10

Win group William Hill 4/9

Sporting Lisbon

          2006/2007: Finished 2nd in Portugal.  Welcome the English to Portugal. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 100/1

Win group William Hill 15/2

Dynamo Kiev

          2006/2007: Finished Champions in Premier League.  Tough away game to start. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 150/1

Win group William Hill 14/1

 

Possibly the toughest group.  The Mancs to scrape in. 

 

Group G

INTER MILAN

          2006/2007: Serie A Champions.  Tricky away game to start. 

2 times European Champions, 1963/64 & 1964/65. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 8/1

Win group William Hill 4/11

 

PSV Eindhoven

          2006/2007: Finished 3rd in Eredivisie.  First game at home. 

Lost final in 2004/05. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 66/1

Win group William Hill 5/1

CSKA Moscow

          2006/2007: Finished as Russian Champions,  .  Tough away start. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 100/1

Win group William Hill 6/1

Fenerbahce

          2006/2007: Finished as Turkish Champions.  Welcome the Italian Champions for opener. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 200/1

Win group William Hill 11/1

 

Inter####onale are clear favourites. 

 

Group H

ARSENAL

          2006/2007: Finished 4th in Premier League.  First game at home. 

Losing finalists in 2005.06

Win it all - Ladbrokes 18/1

Win group William Hill 1/1

Steau Bucharest

          2006/2007: Finished 2nd in Liga 1.  Away fixture to start. 

1 time European Champions in 1985/86, runners up in 19988/89. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 9/1

Win group William Hill 9/1

*AEK Athens

          2006/2007: Finished 2nd in Super League,  .  Possibly away to the Gunners. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 350/1

Win group William Hill 100/1

*Sevilla

          2006/2007: Finished 3rd in Primera Division.  Possibly away to the Gunners. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 20/1

Win group William Hill 11/10

Slavia Prague

          2006/2007: Finished 2nd in Gambrinus Liga.  Start at home. 

Win it all - Ladbrokes 250/1

Win group William Hill 18/1

 

Arsenal are favourites but will be pushed if Sevilla beat AEK. 

 

* final tie yet to be played

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