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UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE / UEFA CUP : PREDICTIONS AND THE DRAW
Dec 20, 2007 | 8:17PM | report this

Champions League Groups; 2007/08.

My pick will still remain as Internaz ionale to beat either Barcelona or an English team in the Final in Moscow.

Group A

Bookies favourite Liverpool stuttered but qualified second and the bookies second favourite; Porto topped the group ensuring an easier game in the KO stages.

Marseille drop into the UEFA Cup.

Liverpool

**Win it all – Ladbrokes 9/1 – 11/1 – after a poor start to the Group Stage the odds have lengthened on the reds.

Porto

Win it all – Ladbrokes 9/1 – 50/1 – now they are rank outsiders?

This is what I said in August:

“Liverpool look group favourites but Porto will be tough.”

Group B

Bookies favourite Chelsea won the group comfortably but the bookies other pick goes home. Schalke did well to finish second and Rosenborg can be thankful for UEFA Cup football in the New Year.

Chelsea

Win it all - Ladbrokes 6/1 – 8/1 – despite dominance in the group the odds go out – maybe it’s Mr. Grant?

Schalke 04

Win it all - Ladbrokes 40/1 – 40/1 – not quite the rank outsiders anymore.

This is what I said in August:

“Chelsea should be pushed by Schalke in this group.”

Group C

Bookies picked correctly again with Real topping the group. Olympiakos confounded the bookies with a second place finish and Werder Bremen drop into the UEFA Cup.

Real Madrid

Win it all - Ladbrokes 9/1 – 8/1 – shortened with a decent showing in the Group Stages.

Olympiakos

Win it all - Ladbrokes 150/1 – 50/1 – Rank outsiders.

This is what I said in August:

“Real Madrid clear favourites in Group C.”

Group D

Bookies favourite AC Milan topped the group with Celtic, finishing above Benfica to confound the bookies. The Portuguese side drop into the UEFA Cup.

AC Milan

Win it all - Ladbrokes 8/1 – 10/1 – Maybe their Serie A form can explain the lengthening of the odds.

Celtic

Win it all - Ladbrokes 100/1 – 50/1 – rank outsiders.

This is what I said in August:

“AC Milan is clear favourites in this group.”

Group E

Bookies do it again with the correct pick of Barcelona to top the group and Lyon to come second; they are confounded with a Rangers third place and the Scottish side can look forward to the UEFA Cup in the New Year.

Barcelona

Win it all - Ladbrokes 9/2 – 4/1 – shortened but not too significantly.

Lyon

Win it all - Ladbrokes 18/1 – 20/1 – lengthened to a team with a puncher’s chance.

This is what I said in August:

“Barcelona could be pushed hard by Lyon.”

Group F

Manchester United did the bookies proud with a comfortable win as did AS Roma with a second place. Sporting drop into the UEFA Cup in a perfect group for the bookies.

Manchester United

Win it all - Ladbrokes 6/1 – 5/1 – significantly shortened after going unbeaten in the Group Stage

Roma

Win it all - Ladbrokes 21/10 – 16/1 – shortened a touch.

This is what I said in August:

“Possibly the toughest group. The Mancs to scrape in.”

Group G

A topsy turvey group for the bookies, they got Inter spot on but gaffed with Fenerbache coming second and PSV going into the UEFA Cup.

Internaz ionale

Win it all - Ladbrokes 8/1 – 9/1 – surprisingly lengthened. That’s a really odd one.

Fenerbache

Win it all - Ladbrokes 200/1 – 50/1 – rank outsiders.

This is what I said in August:

“Internaz ionale are clear favourites.”

Group H

The Bookies favourite finished second with the bookies third favourite winning the group. One for the punter. Slavia Prague gets a shot at the UEFA Cup.

Arsenal

Win it all - Ladbrokes 18/1 – 8/1 – Seriously shortened.

Sevilla

Win it all - Ladbrokes 20/1 – 10/1 – A bet now is not as good value as a bet in August.

This is what I said in August:

“Arsenal are favourites but will be pushed if Sevilla beat AEK.”

So how will the draw work and how will the odds change?

Group winners become the Seeded clubs:

AC Milan, Barcelona, Internaz ionale, Real, Chelsea, Manchester United, Porto, Sevilla.

Second place teams become Unseeded clubs:

Arsenal, Roma, Liverpool, Olympiakos, Schalke 04, Lyon, Celtic, Fenerbache.

Don’t expect the following:

Two English (or other nations) sides to play each other.

Two sides who have met in the group stages to play each other.

Winners don’t play winners and second place finishers don’t play each other.

Someone high up in UEFA will draw some balls from a bowl and pick the runners up names first. then someone will work out who they can play and someone else high up in UEFA will pick from those team using a bowl and some balls. All really high tech and glamorous.

The second placed teams play at home first and the ties are two legged.

I’ll check the Ladbrokes odds after the draw and we’ll see how they’ll change.

**All Ladbrokes odds are from 31/08/2007 and then 20/12/2007.

UEFA CUP DRAW

No predictions from me for this season’s UEFA Cup. I am proud and happy to see the Toffees won out in their group and that despite qualifying top of their group in only three games managed to travel to Holland and win without a number of senior players. Bordeaux were the other team to win all four games in their group. Bayern Munich qualified top of their group but did it with the least amount of points for a group winner.

Group Winners:-

A – Everton FC

B – Atletico Madrid (Good Old Mattress Makers!)

C – Villarreal

D – Hamburg

E – Bayer Leverkusen

F – Bayern Munich

G – Getafe

H – Bordeaux

Second place sides:-

A – Nurnberg

B – Panathinaikos

C - Fiorentina

D – Basle

E – Spartak Moscow

F – Braga

G – Tottenham

H – Helsingborgs

Third place teams:

A – Zenit St Petersburg

B – Aberdeen (Go The Dons!)

C – AEK Athens

D – SK Brann

E – Zurich

F – Bolton Wanderers

G – Anderlecht

H – Galatasaray

Champions League Losers:

It must be noted that I think the practice of rewarding these teams that are basically losers with a berth in the UEFA Cup to be utterly stupid. I loathe the practice and would love Monsieur Platini to just stop it.

Marseille

Rosenborg

Werder Bremen

Benfica

Rangers

Sporting Lisbon

PSV Eindhoven

Slavia Prague

So how will the draw work?

The process is much simpler than the other competition. The only caveat is that same associations won’t play each other in the first KO stage. Winners play third places teams (matches 1 through 8) and second placed teams play Champions League Losers (matches 9 through 16).

Group Winners and Champions League Losers play the first game of the two legged tie away from home.

THEN…

For some reason UEFA pick the teams for the next KO stage. winner match X will play winner match Y with the first team drawn getting to play the first leg of a two legged tie at home. They will pull paper from a bowl until all eight ties are sorted out.

Current Odds. (As given by Ladbrokes on 20/12/2007)

The odds are clearly not just based on group performance – but note that no Champions League Loser gets a spot in the top six. I’ll update the odds after the draw has been made.

Bayern Munich 3/1

Tottenham 9/1

Atletico Madrid 8/1

Villarreal 12/1

Everton FC 12/1 – below Spurs?– flying below the radar again.

Fiorentina 14/1

Werder Bremen 14/1

Hamburg 14/1

Bayer Leverkusen 20/1

Benfica 20/1

PSV 25/1

Sporting Lisbon 25/1

Getafe 25/1

Bordeaux 33/1

Marseille 33/1

Panathinaikos 33/1

Spartak Moscow 33/1

Rangers 33/1

Zenit St Petersburg 33/1

Nurnberg 40/1

AEK Athens 50/1

Bolton 50/1

Slavia Prague 50/1

Rosenborg 66/1

Galatasaray 66/1

Basle 66/1

Anderlecht 80/1

Aberdeen 80/1

Braga 80/1

Zurich 100/1

Helsingborgs 150/1

SK Brann 500/1

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