We have come to the 3rd installment of “He Said, She Said.” While the last 2 have been extremely interesting and fun, this one should inspire somewhat of a feud from those on either side of the fence. This time Rev and I ask, “Should Pete Rose be allowed to take his place among baseball’s greatest in MLB’s Hall of Fame?” How many years has this debate been going on? For some, it is a lifetime. Should Pete Rose be inducted into the Hall of Fame or should baseball stand by their “ban for life” decision passed down in 1989. Baseball has been extremely clear of its stance on gambling. The HOF is filled with adulterers, racists and crooks of every kind who have gotten away with suspensions or a slap on the wrist. But gambling is the HOF’s murder charge and the sentence is death. How just is this stance? Can’t the Hall forgive the sinner without forgiving the sin?

Let’s first take a look at what the man has done during his MLB career. Pete Rose earned the nickname “Charlie Hustle” because of his determination and the passion he took with him every time he stepped onto the diamond. He was famous for always running to 1st base even after a walk and reviving the dangerous head-first slide. Rose is the only player to play 500 games at 5 different positions and is probably the most efficient switch-hitter in baseball history.

Pete’s love for the game was apparent in everything he did. His career was impressive as he still holds quite a few records. These include 4,256 hits, 3,562 games, and 14,053 at bats. He also has in his arsenal three batting titles, 1968, 69 and 73; six World Series appearances – three ending in championships. He is 2nd all-time in doubles, 4th in runs, and amassed at the least 100 hits in his first 23 seasons, another record. He had more than 200 hits in a season 10 times, also a record, and led the league in hits for 7 seasons. 

Rose was Rookie of the Year in 1963. In 1975 he was named the World Series Most Valuable Player, Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year, The Sporting News Man of the Year and was named the Player of the Decade for the 1970s by TSN. Anyone who knows baseball has certainly heard of “The Big Red Machine.” Rose was one of the most important contributors to the Reds domination of the 70’s. 

In 1989, Charlie Hustle was banned from the game for gambling on baseball while he was manager/player for the Cincinnati Reds by then Commissioner Giamatti. His statistical standing in the history of major league baseball cannot be touched but will they ever be officially recognized? Some say yes if he owns up to what he has done and apologize for the behavior. I say, why should this matter? 

Since Rose’s departure from the game as a player, there has yet to be anyone to fill the void of his passion and desire. I heard Joe Morgan once say in an interview that if he could impose one wish on a young player coming into the major league, it would be to spend one year with Pete Rose as a teammate. 

The Hall of Fame just isn’t complete without the inclusion of Pete Rose. It is a museum for the fans and is supposed to honor those who played the game better than anyone during their tenure. I understand and do agree Rose should never be allowed to manage again nor hold any position in professional baseball. However, apology or not for the gambling, Charlie Hustle is a Hall of Famer. PLEASE stop moralizing MLB! Don’t kid yourself that past, current, and future inductees were given some kind of character and moral fitness test prior to their admission. 

Under any impartial standard, Pete Rose was one of the greatest players to play the game of baseball. Under any sober standard, he has to be included in the group of people who are the greatest players to play the game of baseball.

Honor the player. The gambler has been punished.

For the view from the other side of the fence see what Rev has to say...

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It’s that time of year again….time to debate the question of Pete Rose’s induction into Baseball’s Hall of Fame. Or can baseball actually call it the Hall of Fame without Pete Rose?

Let’s take a look….

Pete Rose earned the name “Charlie Hustle” because of his determination and the passion he played the game with. After being a part of the league for 24 years, Mr. Hustle owns quite a few records including 4,256 hits, 3,562 games, and 14,053 at bats. He also has in his arsenal three batting titles, 1968, 69 and 73; six World Series appearances – three ending in championships.

He was awarded Rookie of the Year in 1963 and in 1975, was named the World Series Most Valuable Player, Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year and The Sporting News Man of the Year. Anyone who knows baseball has certainly heard of “The Big Red Machine.” Rose was one of the most important contributors as the Reds dominated the 70’s.

Pete Rose was banned from the game in 1989 for gambling on baseball. While the action taken by the league was completely appropriate, just when is enough, enough? Rose did so much for the game he has loved and dedicated his life and body to.

So, my stance is probably obvious. The Hall of Fame just isn’t complete without the inclusion of Pete Rose. I understand and do agree he should never be allowed to manage again nor hold any position in professional baseball. However, whither he apologizes or not for the gambling, Charlie Hustle is a Hall of Famer. He was great for the game of baseball. Since Rose’s departure from the game as a player, there has yet to be anyone to have filled the void of his passion and desire. I heard Joe Morgan once say in an interview that if he could impose one wish on a young player coming into the major league, it would be to spend one year with Pete Rose as a teammate.

Of all the great stats and records, the one thing Pete Rose was…was a winner. Let’s hope one day he slides head first into the Hall of Fame.

Bluegrass Lady