Well, my Seahawks are on a bye week and I'm bored........
In this video, focus on the car moving along the road. The optical illusion will then appear slowly as your vision adjust's.
There are only white circles at the intersections
Rotating Wheels
The circles appear to rotate when you move your head closer and further away from the screen while looking at the dot in the center. Our peripheral vision interprets the relative increase or decrease of the image in the retina as rotational motion of the slanted lines.
Afterimage
An afterimage is a visual impression that remains in the retina after the initial stimulus is removed. The afterimage always has colors that are complementary to those of the original image. Look steadily at the cross in the center of the picture to see an afterimage.
Can you read this?
I'm not sure how this last one works? But supposedly if you stare at this long enough, you should see ocean waves. Let me know if you see them.
This is my new friend, Sangomas the Witch Doctor. I have asked him to help the Seahawks, because I believe Shaun Alexander has put a curse on the Seahawks passing game. Sangomas will help reverse the Alexander curse and futher more place spell's on the other NFC West team's. Well except the Ram's, Issac Bruce has already cursed that team.
With that said, the Seahawk receiving core is now the youngest and most inexperienced in the NFL......for now. Decimated by injuries, the Seahawks are hurting all over the offensive side of the team. As of right now, Matt Hasselbeck and Walter Jones are the only active starters from last season. And both of them are battling injuries as well.
Maurice Morris RB- Out at least two weeks
Sean Locklear Tkle- Probable for the 49ers game
Deion Branch WR- Out at least one more week
Bobby Engram WR- Out at least three more weeks
Ben Obomanu WR- Out for the season
Nate Burleson WR- Out for the season
Now I know with this many injuries, it's going to be hard for the Seahawks put solid games together. I'm sure most NFL fan's and experts are writing us off. But I'm an optimist(of course) and I think this team still has what it takes to put together another playoff run.
If the Seahawks can over come their dismall special teams performance, play a little more smash mouth and stay positive, the NFC West is still our's!
The Seahawks are not a team to just lay down and call it a season after one poor game. 49er fan's seem to think there's some kind of "Gold Rush" going to happen this year. The Seahawks will be wearing that 49er Gold this season if there is any gold that they might find.
a member of a band of irregular soldiers that uses guerrilla warfare, harassing the enemy by surprise raids, sabotaging communication and supply lines, etc.
Now you can say the Seahawks 12th Man is a band of irregular soldiers. The Seahawks 12th Man is notorious for harrassing visiting teams to Qwest Field. Creating such problems as disrupting communication between the visiting teams offensive players.
bandwagoner
In sports, someone who shamelessly cheers for a particular team not because he likes them or follows them faithfully, but only because that particular team is the "popular" choice or has been or is the top team in their specific sport recently. When that team which bandwagoners follow falls from grace, they gleefully jump on the next teams bandwagon and cheer for that team.
Many of us Seahawk fan's here are labeled as "Bandwagoner's" despite the constant barrage of Super Bowl history lessons or lack there of. And then the discrediting of our Division Titles as nothing to be proud of by the same history professors. We Seahawk fan's are reminded of our unpopularity by the national media and other fan bases. Thus making the Seahawks, NOT a popular bandwagon choice by definition. Therefore, being a Seahawks fan contradicts the definition of "bandwagoner".
Guerrilla warfare resembles rebellion, yet it is a different concept. In the Seahawks and their 12th Man's case, a rebellion against the tyranny of the national media and other teams history. Guerrilla organization ranges from small, local rebel groups of a few thousand guerrillas, to millions of fighters, deploying from cells to regiments. The Seahawks fan base is relatively small, but none the less, very much noticed.
Being a fan of the Seahawks is humbling and gratifying at the same time. We Seahawk fans understand defeat and raise our 12th Man flag no matter what. Gratifying is the feeling we have knowing we follow a team faithfully that is not the popular choice, but a team that strives to be a Champion.
Hello and welcome to WestSeattles "West Side Alkoholiks" FFL team page. The "West Side Alkoholiks" are in the "2008 Seahawks Group" FFL here on Foxsports.com. The league consists of 16 teams. Thus making fantasy draft picks harder to come by in the later rounds. But with the help of my assistants, we have strung together a few drun......I mean fine players.
Now with our team assembled, my staff and I are working on public relations. It is proving to be a bit challenging as we seem to only draw people with AA referrals. The cheerleading squad has proven to be the most difficult. We are currently in negotiations with Joe Francis of "Girls Gone Wild" about cheerleader recruitment. Lets cross our fingers.
Hopefully our fan base remains loyal, as we are looking everywhere for good PR folks. We are working around the clock trying to establish our organization. But with our network circle limited to house parties, keggers and night clubs, we're having troubles meeting football people. We have spoken with some current players, like Ricky Williams and Brandon Marshall at clubs in Las Vegas. But they of course are currently employed.
On a positive note. Past owner of the Texas Rangers and current President of the U.S., George W. Bush has given our team the "A" Okay!
I would like to examine the anatomy of the 12th Man in this post. The history of the 12th Man originated from Texas A & M and their student bodies obligation to the 11 players on the field and E. King Gill. Texas A & M trademarked their famed 12th Man slogan, but NFL teams carried this iconic label to their fan bases. Texas A & M requested NFL teams to stand down on the use of the 12th Man label. And all the teams that used the label did, except one.........the Seahawks. After the Seahawks denied the request from Texas A & M, the university filed a lawsuit against the Seahawks. The lawsuit was quickly settled out of court and we now have the Seahawks 12th Man.
What I'd like to look at, is the transformation of the Seahawks 12th Man. Us Seattlites have been stereotyped as computer nerds, treehuggers, coffee addicts and so on. So what happens to us when a Seahawks game is played here in Seattle? In my previous post, I gave a brief history on the crowd noise generated from the 12th Man at the Kingdome and now Qwest Field. So lets take a quick look at this metamorphosis.
Here are a couple images of a stereotypical Seattlite.
Now when you introduce a stereotypical Seattlite to anything Seahawks related, a change occurs. This phenomenon has been witnessed by many other NFL teams and visiting fans. Some NFL players have even made accusations that this is all staged and is an artificial show. But we will take a look at a short video documented transformation of this event.
:::Injecting Seahawkorphine:::
:::Transformation:::
In this next photo, we have documented what most will call a bandwagoner. He is only loyal to teams with recent success and may follow a team with a history of championships just to fit in. As you can see, the bandwagoner does not fully metamorphasize into a 12th Man. It's actually pretty sad to see this type of situation.
In the end, what I have found. Is that the Seahawks 12th Man comes from all walks of life, race, gender, and geological location. The Seahawks 12th Man is howling from all around the world and theres nothing that can stop it. Despite no Super Bowl victories, the Seahawks 12th Man continues to grow.
As fans of the Seattle Seahawks, we are enduring the test of patience for the "Vince Lombardi Trophy". In the mean time, we in Seattle have created one of the most feared home fields in the NFL. From the Kingdome to Qwest field being hailed as the loudest stadiums in the NFL, to our eccentric fan base. Seahawk fans have become some of the most recognized and hated people in sports.
As a tribute to the raucous fans that made the Kingdome the loudest stadium in the NFL, the Seahawks retired the number 12 on December 15th,1984. Since then #12 Jerseys have been sold by the team and worn by Seahawk fans, often with the name "Fan" on the back. In the 2005 season the fans were again making a difference in games and were recognized with the presentation of a special game ball for their efforts in a game against the New York Giants, a game in which the Giants committed 11 false start penalties in large part because of the crowd noise.
In 2003, the 12th MAN was honored once again, this time with a flag. The tradition of the 12th MAN flag began October 12, 2003, when 12 original season ticket holders hoisted the flag prior to kickoff.
Now, at every home game just before kickoff, the flag is raised in honor of the 12th MAN. From former Seahawks greats, to local celebrities and sports personalities, being called upon to raise the flag has become an honor within itself.
The flag has become a symbol of Seahawks supporters all over the World, raising the spirit of the Seahawks 12th MAN.
So a Super Bowl ring may have eluded us, as many people like to remind us fans of the Seahawks of that. But the Seahawks 12th Man has remained by their side despite the constant reminders. We have become louder and louder. We have also been accused of piping in crowd noise. Sorry, it's just the craziest and loudest fans around.
After laboring through the long drawn out trial between the City of Seattle vs. Clay Bennett's PBC hoping for more basketball in Seattle. Just to see my dreams shot down by my own cities elected officials in the final hours before the judges announcement. Quite frankly it reminded me of the #1 seeded SuperSonics stunning loss to the #8 seeded Denver Nuggets in round one of the NBA Playoffs in 1994.
So now the next round for the fans of the Seattle SuperSonics lay's in the hands of the guy who originally sold the team, Howard Schultz. Now many people laugh at him and say his case has no merit. That Mr. Schultz is only doing this to save face. I use to believe that as well. But it's the actions of the NBA towards this case that has me stepping back.
The NBA last week filed a motion to intervene in the former principal owner’s Howard Schultz's lawsuit in U.S. Western District Court in Seattle. This was after the announcement from Howard Schultz's Attorney Richard Yarmuth that said they were going to proceed with the lawsuit vigorously. David Stern in his Jimmy Hoffa way's, told the Federal Courts that they have no juristiction in the NBA By-Laws.
So why all of a sudden does the NBA have an interest in this matter? David Stern and the NBA hardly winked at the City of Seattle's case. The NBA claims that it's only interest is who if Howard Schultz win's gets the team. Understandable...I guess?
But I think their is some pretty damaging evidence in Schult'z case that could implicate David Stern in a conspiracy to remove the NBA team from Seattle. Schultz's attorney has said they will seek justice to the full extent of the law. Schultz’s lawsuit cites breach of contract, fraud and negligent misrepresentation. Which if Stern was tied into this in any way, he could possibly see jail time.
With all that being said, what is really going on in the NBA? With the whole Donaghy and fixed games scandal happening, the integrity of the league is in question now.
For those of you unfamiliar with the mayor of Las Vegas. His name is Oscar Goodman and he is the real life defense attorney for the Mafia. Most notably, Anthony "Tony the Ant" Spilotro who Joe Pesci played in the true story, "Casino". Mayor Oscar Goodman is sponsored by Bombay Saphire Gin, which they have given the Mayor an annual salary of $100,000 for the Mayor's advertising of their Gin. Advertising that even included a Las Vegas 4th grade class room. Look it up, it's sad and kinda funny.
February 2007, Las Vegas became the first none NBA city to host the NBA All-Star Game. This was Mayor Oscar Goodman's opportunity to sell his city to the NBA as Vegas has been bidding for a pro-team for years now. But David Stern, the NBA commissioner, has made "integrity of the game" his battle cry and says that local gambling on the league, though regulated, would violate that tenet. Really? You the reader can ponder the Commish's battle cry. Keep in mind when you ponder this, that the NBA Summer League is taken place in Las Vagas right now. The Summer League? The youngest and most influential players in Vegas when integrity is the NBA battle cry?
So to my conspiracy theory. After David Stern told the Mayor of Las Vegas, "No NBA team in Las Vegas, it's bad for our integrity"(my words) back in February 2007. The organized crime wheels started spinning. Enter, veteran NBA referee and fall-out guy, Tim Donaghy and his betting scandal in June of 2007. Just four months after Sterns integrity statement to Las Vegas.
How this has anything to do with Howard Schultz case, I don't know? Is there really organized crime involved, I don't know? Did my post make sense, I don't know? What I do know, is that David Stern has no integrity.
Howard Schultz's case is more about him saving face in the corporate world than the Sonics fans in my opinion. Howard does not want to be known as the guy who got swindled in a business deal. And despite Stern's battle cry about integrity, he's sends the youngest of the NBA to Las Vegas for fun and games. Why? Maybe Mayor Oscar Goodman could explain?
David Stern is a crook!
Sorry for my babbling, it all makes sense when I think it.........LOL.
I know people are tired of hearing about Brett. But I'm tired of hearing how tired everyone else is. Have you ever met someone facing retirement? Working on the railroad as a freight train conductor, I saw men who have been railroading for 50+ years. They get to a point in life when retirement is scary. Just to stop doing what they've been doing their whole life is like dying.
Now Brett Favre has become a public joke because he's unsure if retirement is the right move? Why is that funny? He is now faced with the same dilemma many working folks face, whether you're an athlete or freight train conductor. "Do I really want to retire?". It doesn't matter who you are or what you do, it's scary for some. And I for one understand his situation.
Brett Favre still has a little gas in the tank and definitely has the heart and expertise. So I say, let him play. Whether the Pack trades him or what. Michael Jordan was able to walk in and out of the NBA(I know, it's MJ and the NBA). But Favre has a weird cult following like the "Rocky Horror Picture Show", and people want to see him play.
With the recent request for release from the Packers, rumors have been circulating about Brett Favre's intentions. It is believed Packers GM, Ted Thompson declined Favre's request because he is holding on to Favre as trade bait or a backup QB spot. Packers Head Coach McCarthy vows Aaron Rodgers is this years starter.
As the rumor mill spin's at a blistering speed on Favre's next move. Some very interesting individuals have been spotted in the coastal areas of Mississippi. Seattle Head Coach Mike Holmgren, who was the former Packer Head Coach and still good friend of Favre, was seen on a fishing trip together earlier last week. It was suspected that maybe Holmgren was just giving his old quarterback guidance on retirement.
It was the second individual who was spotted off the shores of Mississippi that has everyone raising their eyebrows. Seahawks owner Paul Allen who is well known for wooing players with his personal Boeing 757 jet when trying to lure players to Seattle. But Mr. Allen has decided on bringing his 200 million dollar super yacht named "Octopus" to Mississippi for some unknown reason.
Paul Allen's mega-ship set sail from Seattles Interbay earlier this week and is now anchored off the coast of Gulf Port, Mississippi.
The Seattle Seahawks, who are tight on cap space, could avoid this problem if they are indeed looking to adopt Brett Favre. NFL salary cap by-laws allow teams to pay player/coaches with out going against the cap, as long as his coaching responsibilities are priority and he is never the game time starter. With the departure of Jim Zorn as long time QB Coach in Seattle. Current Seahawk QB Coach Bill Lazor could be shuffled to another team position, if Seattle is looking for Favre as a QB Coach and backup to Matt Hasselbeck.
Brett Favre could very well be interested in coaching in Seattle. Favre has flirted with coming to play for his old coach Holmgren in Seattle before. And it would be of no surprise now. Despite the fact Mike Holmgren is retiring as head coach after this upcoming season. Holmgren will remain one of the Seahawks Vice Presidents.
So with the Seahawks top brass chopping it up in Mississippi. This should be a very interesting chain of events the next few weeks.
Do to the recent Seattle SuperSonics situation, animosity has developed between citizens of Seattle and Oklahoma City. The past year or so alot of derogatory terms have been thrown at each other. Which both sides have childishly pointed fingers each others way saying, "You started it!". Well I thought I'd go ahead and define some of these terms and clear the air in some other areas while I'm here.
First, let's look at the definition of a "Red*neck".
RED*NECK: This was the name used by a gang of coal miners. The West Virginia Coal Miners March or the Battle of Blair Mountain when coal miners wore red bandanas around their necks to identify themselves as seeking the opportunity to unionize. (Nothing Oklahoman there.)
Second, we'll take a look at what a "Hillbilly" is.
HILLBILLY: The term hillbilly in the United States was conferred during the early 18th century by the occupying British soldiers as a carry over from the Irish term, in referring to Scots-Irish immigrants of mainly Presbyterian origin, dwelling in the frontier areas of the Appalachian Mountains. (Nothing Oklahoman there either, but I'm a Scottish-American that lives the shadows of the Cascade and Olympic Mountain ranges here in Seattle. Does that make me a hillbilly?)
Third, we'll look at the term, "Treehugger".
TREEHUGGER: An environmentalist, especially one who supports the preservation of forested land and the restriction of logging. (Hold your breath fellow Pacific Northwest Treehuggers. Located in Federal Way, Washington, Weyerhaeuser is one of the largest pulp and paper companies in the world; the world's largest private owner of softwoodtimberland; and the second largest owner in the United States, behind International Paper. Researchers at the University of Massachusetts Amherst have identified Weyerhaeuser as the 42nd-largest corporate producer of air pollution in the United States, with roughly 17 million pounds of toxic chemicals released annually into the air. Major pollutants indicated by the study include formaldehyde, sulfuric acid, acetaldehyde, manganese compounds, and chlorine dioxide. The Environmental Protection Agency has named it a potentially responsible party for at least 18 Superfund toxic waste sites. So much for being a treehugger!)
So with all that aside, let's talk about this current situation. I see many folks from Oklahoma like "ThePurplePrincess4u" and "OKCGirl" acting as if they are victims of some kind of identity theft because of some outraged Seattle fans. I currently tried to post facts on "ThePurplePrinces4u's" blog post's, but she has screened the comments and denied my comments. I understand some people from Seattle have said some disrespectful things, but my comments on her blog was nothing more than facts.
Many people seem to think that the folks in Seattle don't support our teams. Seattle taxpayers are currently paying for:
Kingdome: Does not even exist anymore
Coliseum: 1995 renovation, now Key Arena
Safeco Field: I still believe this is the most exspensive ball park in baseball.
Qwest Field: Quite possibly the loudest football stadium in the NFL.
Now, things Seattle taxpayers have avoided paying for.
Highway 99 Viaduct: This thing is routinely shut down for earthquake inspections, as it is sinking an inch almost yearly. This highway supports at least 100,000 automobiles daily.
Highway 520 Floating Bridge: Now the funding is finally coming for this bridge, but it has been too long for this funding to take place. But roughly 115,000 people use this bridge daily.
Monorail: Though this is now terminated, the Seattle taxpayers were being charged for this mess while Howard Schultz was demanding funding.
Seattle Public Schools: No matter where you're from, public schools are always an issue. So spare us your jokes.
University Of Washington: 300 million dollars in renovations to Husky Stadium.
These are just a few issues Seattle taxpayers were facing while Clay Bennett was asking us for the 500 million dollar "Taj Mahal" of NBA arenas. We in Seattle learned that our State Legislators were not going to have last minute arena proposals rammed down their throats by Clay Bennett because he couldn't come up with anything in a reasonable amount of time for Legislation to review. And Seattle elected officials lied to the fans in the end and did nothing to guarantee any kind of future.
A couple other facts people seem to forget.
-The City of Seattle proposed a 230 million dollar renovation plan for Key Arena to Howard Schultz, but he wanted 300 million.
-Muckleshoot Indian Reservation offered Clay Bennett 23 acres of free land for an arena, but Bennett quickly dismissed this plan and never had his lobbyists look into it.
-Howard Schultz sold to the HIGHEST bidder, not the lowest. The 350 million dollar price tag on the Sonics was inflated and deferred many buyers. Clay Bennett bit though and the Seattle fans suffered. Howard Schultz made a 69 million dollar profit from the sale of the Sonics.
In the end, Seattle SuperSonic fan's could do nothing to prevent this from happening, thus making us the victims. If you're to naive to see this, just wait when your team needs a new facility and you have other pressing issues to contend with.
My list of who is at fault in my opinion, from greatest to blame, to least.
1. Money-The root of all evil.
2. Howard Schultz-Horrible coffee and for making a profit off the fans loss.
3. The NBA-Allowing such ransoms to accure. "We'll move, if you don't build it!"
4. Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels-Giving me false hope that he actually cared about the fans.
5. Clay Bennett-Hard for me to blame him totally, but he did lie and he made it virtually impossible for any kind of deals to be struck with his GINORMOUS demands.
I'm done for now...........let the Seattle bashing begin again.
Well with this being possibly Mike Holmgren's last year as a Head Coach, at least for the Seahawks. Mike has said he is willing to go all out this season and break from his usual conservative coaching style. Everyone familiar with Bill Walsh's legacy should be familiar with Holmgren's history as well. So I'm not here to give a history lesson on Mike. What I'd like to discuss is some play's Mike might want to consider pulling off during the upcoming last HOO RAH.
So farting around on the web, here are some trick plays I thought we might see this coming Seahawk season.
1. The Statue of Liberty, Boise Style
This play won Boise State the Fiesta Bowl in OT. The QB drops back with both hands on the ball while the RB hovers in the backfield as if he's there to block. Meanwhile, the C and WRs draw the rest of the defense up the right side of the field.
The trick: In one motion, the QB fakes a pass with his right hand and slips the RB the ball with his left. The RB then dashes downfield.
2. The Hook & Ladder
The middle-right WR runs a slant to the left as the wide-left WR runs a 15-yard flag route. The QB throws to the wide-left WR.
The trick: After catching the ball, he pitches it to the slanting middle-right WR, and it's off to the races as the left WR throws blocks.
3. The Flea Flicker
The C snaps the ball and then starts running straight downfield. The QB hands off the ball to the RB.
The trick: Before reaching the line of scrimmage, the RB pitches the ball back to the QB. The RB then picks up the rush- ing defender norm- ally blocked by the C. This gives the QB time to aim and fire to the wide-open C.
4. The Cross Pick
The right WR runs a shallow cross as the three left WRs run right slants.
The trick: As the right WR comes across, the middle-left WR stops, turns, and blocks the right WR's defender (like a basketball pick). The QB hits the open right WR. Touchdown.
5. The Hitch & Go
The far-wide WRs run short post patterns and the QB throws to either one. On the next down, let it slip that you're doing the same play. The WRs run the same posts. As each WR turns, the QB fakes and the defender -- tasting an interception -- will cut to the middle.
The trick: When the defender bites (the "hitch"), the WRs run upfield (the "go") and await the QB's pass.
team not because he likes them or follows them faithfully, but only because that particular team is the "popular" choice or has been or is the top team in their specific sport recently. When that team which bandwagoners follow falls from grace, they gleefully jump on the next teams bandwagon and cheer for that team. 
relations. It is proving to be a bit challenging as we seem to only draw people with AA referrals. The cheerleading squad has proven to be the most difficult. We are currently in negotiations with Joe Francis of "Girls Gone Wild" about cheerleader recruitment. Lets cross our fingers. 
Hopefully our fan base remains loyal, as we are looking everywhere for good PR folks. We are working around the clock trying to establish our organization. But with our network circle limited to house parties, keggers and night clubs, we're having troubles meeting football people. We have spoken with some current players, like Ricky Williams and Brandon Marshall at clubs in Las Vegas. But they of course are currently employed. 
President of the U.S., George W. Bush has given our team the "A" Okay!
history of the 12th Man originated from Texas A & M and their student bodies obligation to the 11 players on the field and E. King Gill. Texas A & M trademarked their famed 12th Man slogan, but NFL teams carried this iconic label to their fan bases. Texas A & M requested NFL teams to stand down on the use of the 12th Man label. And all the teams that used the label did, except one.........the Seahawks. After the Seahawks denied the request from Texas A & M, the university filed a lawsuit against the Seahawks. The lawsuit was quickly settled out of court and we now have the Seahawks 12th Man.
treehuggers, coffee addicts and so on. So what happens to us when a Seahawks game is played here in Seattle? In my previous post, I gave a brief history on the crowd noise generated from the 12th Man at the Kingdome and now Qwest Field. So lets take a quick look at this metamorphosis.
bandwagoner. He is only loyal to teams with recent success and may follow a team with a history of championships just to fit in. As you can see, the bandwagoner does not fully metamorphasize into a 12th Man. It's actually pretty sad to see this type of situation.
Seattle vs. Clay Bennett's PBC hoping for more basketball in Seattle. Just to see my dreams shot down by my own cities elected officials in the final hours before the judges announcement. Quite frankly it reminded me of the #1 seeded SuperSonics stunning loss to the #8 seeded Denver Nuggets in round one of the NBA Playoffs in 1994.
the hands of the guy who originally sold the team, Howard Schultz. Now many people laugh at him and say his case has no merit. That Mr. Schultz is only doing this to save face. I use to believe that as well. But it's the actions of the NBA towards this case that has me stepping back. 
owner’s Howard Schultz's lawsuit in U.S. Western District Court in Seattle. This was after the announcement from Howard Schultz's Attorney Richard Yarmuth that said they were going to proceed with the lawsuit vigorously. David Stern in his Jimmy Hoffa way's, told the Federal Courts that they have no juristiction in the NBA By-Laws.
For those of you unfamiliar with the mayor of Las Vegas. His name is Oscar Goodman and he is the real life defense attorney for the Mafia. Most notably, 
salary of $100,000 for the Mayor's advertising of their Gin. Advertising that even included a Las Vegas 4th grade class room. Look it up, it's sad and kinda funny.
Vegas, "No NBA team in Las Vegas, it's bad for our integrity"(my words) back in February 2007. The organized crime wheels started spinning. Enter, veteran NBA referee and fall-out guy, Tim Donaghy and his betting scandal in June of 2007. Just four months after Sterns integrity statement to Las Vegas.
As the rumor mill spin's at a blistering speed on Favre's next move. Some very interesting individuals have been spotted in the coastal areas of Mississippi. Seattle Head Coach Mike Holmgren, who was the former Packer Head Coach and still good friend of Favre, was seen on a fishing trip together earlier last week. It was suspected that maybe Holmgren was just giving his old quarterback guidance on retirement.
