The Trans-Pacific Traveller
by: Tezgm99
Some Of The More Controversial Incidents In Motorsport
Jun 27, 2007 | 2:54PM | report this

Just a few over the last 15 years...I narrowed it down to these since there are lots of cases. Oh, and remember, this is just my take on them so don't bother crying about my opinions as you won't be getting any sympathy from me.

Michael Schumacher is involved in four of them; his accidents with Damon Hill (1994) and Jacques Villeneuve (1997) while Rubens Barrichello and himself got into some hot water in Austria (2002) and lastly the tyre issue in 2003.

1994 saw him clip the wall before Damon tried to muscle his way past at the next turn. Both drivers retired from the impact and Michael won his first F1 Driver's title. The shot of Michael's Benetton Ford up on two wheels with him still trying to steer remains as one of the coolest photos in Formula 1. No penalty was forthcoming from the FIA who figured this was just a racing incident.

1997 saw a similar situation but a different outcome. Again, Michael was leading the race only for his final set of tyres to not perform as he would have liked and Jacques quickly closed in and dived down the inside to pass him. Michael turned in, they collided and Michael was left stranded in the gravel while Jacques carried on to finish third, enough for him to clinch the Championship. The FIA did penalise Michael for this; he was stripped of his second place in the standings but allowed to keep his statistics (number of wins, pole positions, etc) in the history books.

The Austrian GP of 2002 hailed the start of the 'team orders' rule after Rubens thoroughly dominated the race only to pull over on the start/finish straight (literally yards before taking the chequred flag) to gift Michael the win. Ferrari said it was for the title so Michael could gain the extra points, but the FIA (and fans alike) viewed it differently. Ferrari had such a car advantage over the others that there was no need for the team to tell Rubens to move over. The only penalty (that I can recall) was the introduction of that new rule.

The Formula 1 season of 2003 had the potential to be a classic going into the final handful of races; Michael Schumacher, Juan Montoya and Kimi Raikkonen were all but level when the circus hit Monza in September. That's when things started to fall apart for Kimi and Juan. Michelin (tyre supplier for McLaren and Williams) got told that their tyres did not conform to the regulations. The problem was that while the tyres passed the pre-race inspection, Ferrari claimed that they became illegal during the race as they exceeded the maximum allowable tread width. Michelin had been using the tyre since the San Marino race (first half of the year) without any problems but changed their tyres rather than protest it. The end result was that Michael again won the title...and many fans were left disgruntled about what might have happened had the tread issue not surfaced.

And let us not forget the 2005 Indy GP...I won't even bother talking about that since you only need one word to sum it up; farce.

The 2006 Daytona 500 was an interesting race. Jimmie Johnson lost his Crew Chief, Chad Knaus, for car infringements (and Chad was suspended for a few races). This didn't stop Jimmie as he powered his Lowes Chevy to the front to start the year off as he finished it; number 1. It was a wonderful year for the #48; Daytona 500 winner, All-Star Race winner and the Championship, it doesn't come much better than that. During the races Chad wasn't there, Jimmie was on fire, scoring a couple wins and consolidating his Championship lead.

Same track, but different year. 2007 saw Toyota enter the Cup (and Busch) series for the first time. Michael Waltrip switched from Dodge to Toyota and we had the infamous 'fuel sample' debacle. To this day we don't know exaclty what was in it, but Mikey was pinged as it was alleged that the substance might have been rocket fuel. Up until a few weeks ago, he was still in the negative in the points standings.

So now we come to the two incidents involving the new car. Both DEI and HMS played around where they should not, and both received the same penalty; 100 points off (Owners and Drivers), $100k fine and Crew Chief suspended from action for 6 races. NASCAR have told everyone (repeatedly) not to mess around with the car as they will punish you. There will always be people who argue that the penalties weren't fair on either team as the circumstances were different...but you can't say that NASCAR is showing favouritism in this regard since both teams got exactly the same thing.

But the question is this; should the penalties for tinkering with the new car have been more? Should both teams have deserved having the book chucked at them, being booted out for the rest of the year, thrown in jail...or whatever else people can dream up. Was it cheating? DEI have said it was an accident that the wrong brackets were used while HMS have said they did it to gain a little bit extra downforce. Personally, I think both teams got off lightly...NASCAR have now set down the precedence and, rest assured, this won't be the last time anyone only gets that penalty.

NASCAR had a great chance to really hit the teams where it hurts (the Chase), but when their moment came, they dropped the ball...why?

Because NASCAR wants the best teams and the best drivers in the Chase...that's why. I believe that they were stung badly after 2005 (financial-wise anyway) when Jeff Gordon and Dale Jr didn't make the Chase that they didn't want to run the risk of that happening again.

By rights, those thoughts should never have come into it...but sadly, I think they did.

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photogr
Jun 27, 2007
7:31 PM
Yep they did Tez: I think the penalties were ok for 8 and 24. Considering 48 crew chief Chad has been a bad boy more than once this last year and a half, the penalty should have been more severe. That is just my take..

Still some teams just don't get the message.. NASCAR says don't mess with the COT. Some teams think they said it is OK if NASCAR doesn't see it.. What part did the teams not understand on messing with the COT?

Last edited by photogr on June 27th at 7:34 PM.

Tezgm99
Jun 27, 2007
7:52 PM
I'm not sure, photo....I mean, they said that there'd be hefty punishments for anyone caught tampering with the new car. Obviously my definition of 'hefty' differs a fair bit from theirs, lol

I was envisaging penalties that a team boss would send around a memo saying, "if anyone even *thinks* about messing with this thing, you'll be out of a job!"

That aside, a part of me wishes the template was just a box saying "your car has to be this high, this wide and this long" and let them (teams and manufacturers) go for it. Regulate the engine, springs, fuel, whatever....but not the shell.

Last edited by Tezgm99 on June 27th at 8:03 PM.

Dave_in_Indy
Jun 28, 2007
3:02 AM
Nice recap of controversial moments. And like your idea for NASCAR (basic parameters for body, and then let 'em at it). Otherwise, just give them a body (ala the COT wing) and tell them not to mess with it, other than to put a coat of paint on it no thicker than .xx millimeters thick.

In terms of controversial incidents, I'd add these from the Indy 500:

1995 race, when Scott Goodyear had the race won easily, but passed the pace car before crossing the start/finish line on a late race restart (and then ignored black flags) - Jacques Villenueve won as a result

2002 race, when by all photographic and video evidence, Paul Tracy passed Helio Castroneves PRIOR to the yellow light coming on for a late race wreck - however, race officials made a real-time judgment that Castroneves was in the lead at the time the yellow was thrown, and placed in the lead. The race finished under yellow (and Tracy has refused to return to Indy). Two appeals were denied, citing the fact that such a call is a judgment by race officials that may not be overturned by post race review.

rampantfanatic
Jun 28, 2007
4:18 AM
Tezgm ........I think those incidents showed that Schumacher was still somewhat learning the ropes and was very overzealous
as a young driver. As his career progressed he became more confident and astute driver. Seven championships can't and shouldn't deny that overall fact.

rampant aka 'tophatal'

Tezgm99
Jun 28, 2007
12:22 PM
Dave; nice calls....but this blog was getting a touch long without those, lol. I could also have added in this years Pocono race I suppose but left it out for the same reason.

tophatal; yeah, I agree with you. While I was a Damon fan (and therefore didn't like Michael, lol) I will never deny that he was an awesome driver. If there is anyone in the world (past or present) that you'd want in the car if your life was on the line, it'd be Schumi....his 'win at all costs' attitude rubbed some people up the wrong way but he was spectacular to watch (Spa '95, Hungary '98, etc).

14Falcons
Jun 28, 2007
9:51 PM
A better title would be ten most controversial moments witnessed by tez or such. Although you tried to qualify it, you still missed the boat in my opinion. Your knowledge of F1 is better than mine. You could have scored well here limiting the blog to F1 since few of us know much about it.

Tezgm99
Jun 28, 2007
10:42 PM
Point taken, Falcons. I was just trying to look at the Sonoma penalties from a slightly different angle that's all, lol

14Falcons
Jun 29, 2007
12:52 AM
I think I am cranky because there are so many posts on here now that I can't catch up and I really hate not being able to read and comment on them all. We have created a monster. Cheers!

rampantfanatic
Jun 29, 2007
3:50 AM
Tezgm99 ......... I was just now looking at your bio and I hadn't realised that you're an Antipodean. Are you still a great follower of rugby and cricket as such ? And if so how do you feel about the various international test teams ? The WI to my mind are no longer the masters of their domain and all that they once surveyed. And with regards to rubgy I'm only ever really interested in the the test series between the All Blacks or the Five Nations competition and World Cup.

rampant'

Tezgm99
Jun 29, 2007
2:03 PM
cheers for coming back rampant....tophatal...uh, how many accounts do you have, lol

ahh yes, cricket. Well I can't really complain much since the Aussies shut me up at the WC (they were struggling real bad leading up to it that I didn't give them a chance). The WI had a win last night in the 20Twenty....but their test team leaves a lot to be desired. To be honest, I'm like you with the rugby; Ashes (that '05 series was the greatest thing on TV I've ever seen) and Aussie v India is about as good as it gets for me.

Rugby....I don't get to see any of the 6 Nations due to not subscribing to 'the Rugby Channel' and I can't stand the arrogance of the All Blacks....the fans and commentators, not the players. I mean, yes they have a great team, but to blast everyone else for being arrogant and not themselves is quite tastelesss. I personally hope they don't win the WC just to shut all those morons up.

I can't wait to finally move to Canada (most probably still a couple years away though) to be honest....just have to put up with ice hockey, lol.

Last edited by Tezgm99 on June 29th at 2:09 PM.

rampantfanatic
Jun 30, 2007
9:49 AM
Tezgm99
There are three actual accounts that I contribute to. The last one I'd set up for a work colleague. But within a couple of days of me getting it all off the ground. He was fired from UPS. So I now also contribute pieces too that account also. It's under the guise of justanotherfan. Well cricket is inherently within my blood because of the West Indian ancestry and rugby because I played it in high school.
I'm more interested in cricket though and once in a while I'll keep abreast of things as far the Six Nations and World Cup tournaments go .
But as you'll no doubt see from my bio I'm into all sports within reason.

rampant'

RINGO
Jun 30, 2007
6:53 PM
G`day sport ,and the ashes are only on loan!
You need to get Setanta for the RWC.

rampantfanatic
Jul 2, 2007
9:41 AM
Ringo ,
That's what we'd like to believe wouldn't we in all honesty ? But the facts are there for all to see ! We're good when we think we are. But then come unstuck when we're playing against teams that are more than our equals. Check out my latest piece written under this guise entitled I Had My Fill Of 'em During The Latter Part Of The Nineties - Do We Reallt Need 'em Once Again ? Let me know what you think as to the subject matter ? Chimin' out !

rampant'

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