I’ve been holding off on writing an article about this since reports surfaced days before the Super Bowl that Former Patriots video assistant Matt Walsh had taped a Ram’s walkthrough prior to Super Bowl XXXVI. I wanted to see what new information came out of this, which quite frankly wasn’t much. Now that Matt Walsh has met with the Commissioner and the tapes have been shown to the public, what is the final affect of Spygate on the Patriot’s legacy?
The problem that we have on this topic is that there are too many people that are emotionally attached to the situation. You have a number of fans that are huge supporters of the Patriots. They believe this an attempt by fans of other franchises to discredit the accomplishments of the most successful franchise in the league since 2001. They believe giving this matter any credence is pure jealousy. Conversely, you have another group of people that hate the Patriots so much that they will take any bit of negative information and use it to discredit the entire Patriot dynasty. They want to believe the Patriots were a 6-10 team transformed into Super Bowl Champion with this conduct.
The fact of the matter is that both positions are utterly ridiculous. Many Patriots fans have lost their minds in trying to justify or explain this. It was against the rules and if the Patriots didn’t know it was against the rules, the only reason they didn’t know is because they didn’t want to know.
The method they were using to tape these games was very systematic. On every play they would tape the scoreboard showing the clock, score, down, and yardage. Then they would show the signals being used by the coaching staff on the other sideline. They had done this practice as early as 2001. Common sense dictates two things: 1) In a league where coaches spend 15-20 hours a day preparing for their opponent, why would they use those valuable hours viewing footage that didn’t give them any advantage? 2) If it wasn’t working why did they continue to tape opposing sidelines from 2001-2007?
It obviously gave them an advantage otherwise they wouldn’t have gone through the painstaking systematic approach in taping these signals over multiple seasons. If it wasn’t a competitive advantage the league wouldn’t have fined the Patriots $250,000. They wouldn’t have taken away a first round pick. They wouldn’t have fined The Hood $500,000.
However, the anti-Patriot crowd has also lost their minds. First, do you honestly believe that the Patriots were the only team in the league engaged in this activity? In reading and watching TV about this topic I have heard two interesting stories on ESPN from unconfirmed sources. 1) That there was another team in the league that had tried to tape coaching signals and when the opposing coaching staff saw what was going on they sent a huge security officer stand in front of the camera to block the taping. 2) That when Herm Edwards was with the Jets he knew the Patriots were engaged in this behavior and would waive to the cameras to let the Patriots know that they knew the signals were being taped.
Opposing coaches that had no idea their signals were being taped were naive. I have a very difficult time believing that 1) The Patriots were the only team engaged in this type of activity and 2) That no one in the league had the foggiest notion that the Patriots were taping signals. Teams that were playing the Patriots should have known this practice was going on and could have taken measures to prevent it or minimize it.
Here is my opinion on the fallout of this. All I know is that had I been the coach of the Patriots and tried to tape these signals and put together a game plan based on those signals the Patriots would have gone 0-16. I am a follower of the game, have very strong opinions on what I watch, and consider myself a historian of the game. I can call plays on John Madden Football. That does not make me qualified to be a NFL Head Coach.
Taking steroids will make someone stronger, but it doesn’t guarantee they will have the hand eye coordination to hit a 95 mile an hour fastball. The same is true for this. Taping signals is not going to make an unqualified head coach smart enough to win 3 Super Bowls. Had the Patriots done the same exact practice with The Ole Ball Coach running the helm they wouldn’t have won 3 Super Bowls. They probably wouldn’t have won more than 6 or 7 games a season. But when you take the best Head Coach in the NFL and the best Quarterback in the NFL and arm them with a competitive advantage, it can have a huge impact.
You can’t take the dynasty part away from the Patriots. They won 3 Super Bowls in 4 years and appeared in 4 Super Bowls in 7 years. What happened has happened. The past is in the past. You can’t take away the impressive record of Bill Belichick and what he has been able to accomplish in Boston since 2001. You can’t take away Brady’s post season record.
Where it does hurt both of them is in their climb to join as Muhammad Ali called, “The Legend’s Club.” In the Thanksgiving Special that Fox Sports did for Brett Favre last year where they had Ripken Jr., Gretzky, Bird, Staubach and a slew of other legends congratulate Brett Favre on his wonderful career, the tribute ended with Ali saying, “I am the Greatest, you are the Latest. Welcome to the Legend’s Club.”
The Hood and Brady are no longer playing to be the best in the game right here, right now. They are playing to become legends. The best of the best. All time greats. No one can deny that Bill Belichick is a better coach than Marty Schottenheimer. That is undisputable. But is he a better coach than Tom Landry, Vince Lombardi, Chuck Noll, or Don Shula?
When you start debating which legend is better than another legend you really start splitting hairs. Don’t think for a second that if someone tries to say The Hood is a better head coach than Tom Landry that it won’t be pointed out that while The Hood does have 3 rings to Landry’s 2 rings, that Landry had a longer tenure, won with more quarterbacks, appeared in just as many Super Bowls, and that in the two Super Bowl games he lost to the Steelers by 4 points he didn’t tape the signals of Chuck Noll to get a competitive edge.
For Bill Belichick this is damning. While it will probably not keep him out of the Hall of Fame or joining the legends of the game it is going to rob him of a chance to be considered at the top of the very top in the head coaching fraternity. While the first paragraph of his one page biography will speak to his incredible winning percentage, post season record, and Super Bowl rings the second paragraph is going to talk about this scandal. When everyone in that fraternity has so many impressive accomplishments it is going to be hard to take someone who was convicted of cheating and give them the gold medal. In order for him to get that gold medal he is going to have to so outdistance himself from everyone else that there is little argument, similar to what Jerry Rice did at the receiver position.
With regards to Tom Brady it gets harder to figure out the affect on his legacy. Here is someone that benefitted from the information that probably didn’t know how it was obtained. It isn’t as if he was doing the videotaping or even ordering it. While it is unclear is to what extent the players knew anything about this; my belief is that they didn’t and the reason would be free agency and coaching staff changes. If every player and assistant coach on the Patriots knew about this practice, how would it have stayed quiet for 7 years with all the players and staff switching teams. You can’t tell me that when Ty Law was released from the Patriots that he wouldn’t have ratted The Hood out to the league had he known what was going on.
The problem is that while Brady probably didn’t know that he was being given this information against the rules and ethics of the league, the fact is that he benefitted from that information. In a league that is decided by about 5 or 10 plays, it is hard to know how much that affected playoff games between two talented opponents.
So again, obviously Brady is better than Ryan Leaf, Rex Grossman, or Phillip Rivers. But in an argument about whether he is better than Elway, Favre, Manning, Montana, Starr, or Unitas this topic is going to come up. The difference is that instead of being in the 2nd paragraph of Brady’s one page bio it will be in the 5th or 6th paragraph. It will be less damaging. Not as many experts will jump on board that argument, because many people will say it was not his fault and was out of his control. However, I can’t believe that it won’t ever come up in that discussion and I think there are some legitimate arguments to be made about how much this practice impacted Tom Brady’s career, not so much in terms of regular season statistics, but in regards to his incredible winning percentage in both the regular season and post season.
Patriot fans will argue that their team had the best talent and they would have won those games anyway. Other fans will argue that the Patriots wouldn’t have won any Super Bowls. It is hard for me to believe that. I don’t believe the Patriots would have been 5-11 all those years. I think they were a playoff team regardless of their videotaping practices. I even believe they would have won at least one Super Bowl? But in so many playoff games that were decided by 7 points or less did it change the outcome of any of those playoff games? I don’t know and no one has an answer for that.
That is why I believe the NFL destroyed those videotapes after the first batch was turned over. They didn’t want the media and the fans to see the exact details of what the Patriots were doing. The Patriots have been one of the most successful franchises in the NFL this decade. In my opinion the NFL was trying to minimize the damage this did. It does them no good to have their most successful team, Head Coach, and QB tarnished by this. However, once the Walsh tapes came out they had little choice to release them without fueling the conspiracy theories that were out there about those tapes. The consequences of not showing them would have been much worse.
What is your opinion on this matter? Based on the facts we know now and assuming that there are no other new facts that will come to fruition, how does this affect your view of the 2000 Patriot’s legacy? Does it put an asterisk next to it, tarnish their accomplishments, become a small footnote, or should it have no affect at all. I would like to hear your thoughts.
None whatsoever StreetCred. Obviously it did give an advantage, I think it's a fair advantage. I just compare it to scouting your next opponent during a game against another opponent they are playing. Same thing to me. The Pats Dynasty to is a true dynasty no matter what anyone says. Belicheck is one of the top 10 coaches of all time so far while Brady is one of the top 5 QBs of all time so far.
I would say it is a footnote. It does not tarnish nor have any effect. It is systematic of the current legacy of pro football.
We have lived through the steroids era of the 70's and 80's and various supplement enhancements of the 90's. The evolution of the game as a part time career in the 20's-70's to the year around programs of the present day. Full scale conditioning and weight training, massive technological and medical upgrades. Huge market capitalization and media influence. And changing philosophy of what amateur and professional status' entails.
These are all footnotes as to their respective eras.
Dehbashi - Thanks for the post. I don't think it is none whatsoever. They don't take away a first round pick and fine that kind of money for what amounts to something similar to scouting.
I do agree with your rankings on Brady and Hood, but it will be interesting how it affects their final ranking once their careers are done. For Brady I don't think it will be much at all and for the Hood I think it will when comparing him with the top people on the list.
Moseby - Thanks for the post. The only thing I would disagree with you on is other than steroids those changes you talk about affected all 32 teams and some clubs addapted to those changes better than others.
While I think steroids is a more serious issue, videotaping of this type is also breaking the rules of the game. Furthermore, it has yet to be proven that the majority of clubs were doing it.
In the end, while it seems like a big deal now, it probably won't as big down the road. My final verdict is a small tarnish for Hood, a footnote for the Patriots organization, and a tiny tiny footnote for Brady and the other stars of the dynasty, simply because they were on the team when it occured.
I'm not excusing the Patriots of culpability. It was a broken rule. However, it was not "clarified" until the 2006 memo, which was after the video evidence was directed. Once again, no excuse. I think New England was more guilty of bad ethical practices to gain a competitive advantage.
I also think that "stealing" signals (not off videotape) has been around in Professional Football and Baseball for multiple decades. While these procedures are not outlawed per se, they are certainly frowned upon by purists. And yet MANY teams pursued this advantage. I have no argument with your verdicts for the individuals, was stating my case for the Patriots legacy and the NFL.
I agree with that. It is very similar to the contraversy in baseball. Steroids weren't outlawed in the league's substance abuse policy and weren't tested for, but everyone knew it was wrong.
Same thing here. The 2006 memo spelled out the rules of videotaping, where as prior to to that it was an unwritten rule.
I agree it has been around for years and that many teams have probably done this. It would be interesting to know how widespread this practice was.
Hey StreetCred, we are talking about ####, whoops I mean Goodell, here with punishment. This punishment, which I thought was WAY too harsh, is unprecedented. The one reason I think it was the punishment was this high is because of the taping happening from 2000. If it was that one time against the Jets, it probably would have been a slap on the wrist, a fine no more then 30K. If people take Jimmy Johnson's words about players not even knowing what their coaches do, Brady shouldn't be affected whatsoever.
You did an article of the final verdict. Give me some time. I am planning to write the history about Cameragate ( I refuse to say Spygate because that wasn't what they were punished for) and stuff that happened in the past. May take me a little while to gather all the information. When I do I'll let you be the first to know.
I'll let you know one thing that will be on my blog when it's finished as a preview. People are talking about the Rams Walkthrough being taped (which we know now to be false) but normal people never realized that the Pats were being spied on I believe the day before. The media and NFL knew of it. They saw someone with a telescope through a window at some point during the time the Pats were on the field. The main reason I sided with the Pats on Cameragate is because I knew it was a plain #### witch hunt. Even now all this information against the Pats keep popping up while of other teams get hidden.
Bill Belicheat has solidified himself as a coach to be hated. His genius tag, has been applied by the media cuz the see him as such a savant...its ok to cheat, just dont get caught! Its the new American Way!
Belicheck lied to Goodell from the beginninng. He told Goodell they only taped divisional opponents and only defensive calls.
Walsh's proved Belicheat as a liar when he turned in tapes of both def and off signals and teams that werent divisional, including a play-off game against the Steelers, whom they beat!
When Goodell commented on Walsh tapes he basicallly stated he didnt trust Belicheat and that he considered him a liar.
Whats hilarious is that someone from the outside can say this was no big deal that it was, at the most, unethical before the rule was passed last summer. Ok, but then arrogant Belicheck ignores the new rules and gets busted the first game after the new rule had been passed! Gaffe!
Maybe other teams have cheated, but until their is real cold hard PROOF, thats all they have! Just Hersey! You definitely cant use it as an argument to say that its No Big Deal!
That would be 100% unpermissable in court, but in the court of public opinion, its used as a reason to condone cheating.
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