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Is the NFL Racist towards Black QBs?
Sep 21, 2007 | 3:29PM | report this

Donovan McNabb has reopened a debate that has been in the NFL forefront for sometime.  McNabb was interviewed by James Brown of HBO Sports and the topic came up as to whether Black NFL Quarterbacks are treated differently than White NFL Quarterbacks.  To summarize his interview, McNabb stated that black NFL quarterbacks face more pressure, scrutiny and criticism than their white counterparts.

I thought it would be interesting to look at this argument statistically and see whether his claims had any merit.  This is the list of the top 5 white quarterbacks playing in 2006:  Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, Marc Bulger, and Drew Brees.   I understand that Brett Favre would be on the list if we were looking at this historically.  I also understand Phillip Rivers was in the Pro Bowl and Tom Brady was not.  However, if you were starting a franchise today, these would be the top 5 white quarterbacks that most NFL general managers would have on the top of their list. 

In 2006, the top 5 starting black quarterbacks would be as follows:  Donovan McNabb, Michael Vick, Vince Young, Steve McNair, and David Garrard.  McNabb did not start the whole year due to injury and Garrard shared time with Byran Leftwich.  To make things fair, I averaged the statistics out based on the number of games played:  Here is what I came up with:


Manning, Brady, Palmer, Bulger, Brees – The five quarterbacks played in an average of 16 games.  They averaged passing for 4,136 yards, 26.6 touchdowns, 10.6 interceptions for the 2006 season.  This comes to an average of 258.5 yards per game, 1.7 touchdown passes, and 0.7 picks per contest.  They combined for an average QB rating of 94.4.  Their teams combined for a record of 50-30 or an average of 10 wins on the 2006 season.  Three of them reached the playoffs.  Those three started in the conference championship games.  Manning went on to win the Super Bowl. 

McNabb, Vick, Young, McNair, Garrard – The five quarterbacks played in 68 out of 80 games.  They averaged passing for 2,421 yards, 15.2 touchdowns, and 10.6 interceptions.  This comes to an average of 178.0 yards per game, 1.1 touchdowns passes, and 0.8 picks per contest.   They combined for an average QB rating of 80.2.  Their teams combined for a record of 9.2 wins, which is just slightly below the star white QBs.  Two of them reached the playoffs, although McNabb was on IR for the playoff run.  McNair lost his first playoff game to Manning’s Colts. 

One thing to keep in mind is that Michael Vick on his own out produced the 5 white QBs in rushing yards and touchdowns.  Young probably did the same.  However, the quarterback position has traditionally been evaluated on the QBs ability to pass the football.   Steve Young was a great scrambler too.  He didn’t start getting his just due until his passing numbers went off the charts.   

The only quarterback on the black quarterback list that rivals the white quarterbacks as a passer are McNair and McNabb.  McNair put up insane numbers while in college.  While he has won an MVP, he has never put up gaudy passing numbers in the pros.  McNabb is very similar to McNair, except he did have one season where he put up gaudy numbers, which was 2004.  The rest of his career he has been a low 3,000 yard passer around 20 touchdown passes. 

It is unfair to judge the black quarterback’s treatment if you are going to compare that treatment to a Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, etc.  The reason this is unfair is that their black counterparts are not putting up passing numbers that are even in the realm of equivalence. If there were currently a black quarterback that was throwing for those numbers on a consistent basis, we could compare the treatment.  For instance, if Warren Moon were playing today, we would have a quarterback that was in the same statistical area.  However, because there is currently not a quarterback that is throwing for 4,000 yards, 25 touchdowns, and 10 picks, we are left to compare apples and oranges.

The bottom line is that quarterbacks are judged on two things.  First, and foremost, it is how they throw the ball.  Do they throw for a lot of yards?  Do they score a lot of touchdowns?  Do they throw very few interceptions?  However, doing that alone will not keep you employed.  Ask Jeff George.  Secondly, you not only have to win, but you have to be perceived as the reason your team won.  You have to matter.  That is why Troy Aikman was able to come back in 1994 after throwing 15 touchdowns and 6 interceptions in 1993.  On the other hand, Trent Dilfer, who threw 12 touchdowns and 11 picks in 9 games in 2001 was asked to find a new team to sign his paychecks.  Both won the Super Bowl.  However, Aikman was considered a catalyst for those Super Bowls, where as Dilfer was considered a liability.   

A perfect present day example would be Rex Grossman.  He led his team to the Super Bowl, or followed them there, depending on your perspective.  His team was 13-3, and the number one team in the NFC.  His Bears scored the 2nd most points of any team in the NFL.  He threw for 3193 yards, 23 touchdowns, 20 picks, and had a QB rating of 73.9.  I live in Chicago.  I hear everyday how the Bears need a new QB.  The perception is that the Bears are a QB away from winning the Super Bowl.  The perception is that the Bears are winning despite Grossman, not because of him.  I believe that Rex Grossman is currently the most scrutinized quarterback in the NFL. 

A close second would be Eli Manning.  Not only does he quarterback in New York, but his older brother is arguably the best QB in the game.  He threw for 3,244 yards, 24 touchdowns, 18 interceptions, and had a QB rating of 77.0.  However, he is not his brother.  His Giants started the season 6-2, before finishing 8-8.  They made the playoffs and lost their first round game.  It was widely accepted that if he does deliver a 3,500 yard, 25 touchdown, 15 interception season, with a QB rating in the mid 80s that results in his team making the playoffs; that the Giants would be looking to bring in competition for his job.  The only reason he is not under fire for the Giants 0-2 start is because he has played well and the defense has given up 80 points.  Check back next week for his status. 

Quarterback is the most unfair position to play in sports.  Quarterbacks get way to much credit when the team wins.  The Quarterback gets way to much blame when the team loses.  Quarterback is known as a what have you done lately position.  They can be throwing parades in your honor one day, and throwing you out of town the next.  It is not unprecedented that successful quarterbacks have lost their job rather quickly. 

In 1989 Joe Montana won the League and Super Bowl MVP.  He followed that up with a 14-2 record and a loss in the Championship Game in 1990.  Due to the injury he suffered in that Championship Game, he missed the 1991 season and almost all of the 1992 season.  Despite having won 4 Super Bowls in San Francisco and being widely considered the best QB to ever play the game, the 49ers shipped him to Kansas City for the 1993 season, because they felt Steve Young gave them the best chance to win in 1993.  This was the same Steve Young that had never won a Super Bowl as a starter and was the pre 2006 Peyton Manning of his day, the great QB that couldn’t win the big game.  

Kurt Warner won a Super Bowl in 1999.  He also won the regular season and Super Bowl MVP.  In 2001, he duplicated that regular season MVP performance and lost the Super Bowl.  His offense finished #1 in both scoring and yardage in 1999, 2000, and 2001.  In 2002 he was injured and looked shaky.  By 2003 Marc Bulger had the job in hand.  In 2004, Warner was playing for the Giants. 

Don’t get me wrong.  I am not so naïve that I believe that professional sports is a 100% racist free world.   There is still racism in our society.  Professional sports is part of our society.  Therefore, there is no reason to believe that racism is not present in professional sports.  However, this notion that black quarterbacks have to do something extra to keep their job is, in my opinion, preposterous. 

I don’t know how any quarterback keeps his job.  The Favres, Mannings, and Bradys amaze me with their ability to keep their jobs year after year.  Most owners are not going to hang on to white quarterbacks that can’t produce.  Most of the media is not going to baby white quarterbacks.   The majority of the people associated with the NFL are about winning today.  Not tomorrow and not yesterday. 

What do Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith, Michael Vick, Vince Young, and JaMarcus Russell have in common?  They are all black quarterbacks that were top 5 picks in the draft since 1999, the year Donovan McNabb was selected with the second overall pick.  In comparison, Alex Smith, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Carson Palmer, David Carr, Joey Harrington, and Tim Couch were the white QBs that shared that honor. 

That means seven white quarterbacks compared to five black quarterbacks taken in the first five picks of the first round since Donovan McNabb was drafted.  Five of the white quarterbacks are starters, compared to two for the black quarterbacks.  If Michael Vick could have avoided legal problems, Joey Harrington wouldn’t be a starter and it would be four to three.  If JaMarcus Russell had not held out the entire preseason, it might have even been a tie. 

Furthermore, JaMarcus Russell, the star black quarterback in this years draft was picked number one, while his white counterpart, Brady Quinn dropped to the end of the first round.  This isn’t the league that Warren Moon was faced with in the late 1970’s.  If a black quarterback proves that he is NFL capable in college, not only will he be drafted, he will be drafted very high.  While some will point to Heisman winner Troy Smith dropping to the 5th round this year, I will point to Eric Crouch, a Heisman winner that was not drafted by the Rams to play QB, but Wide Receiver. If the NFL is putting more pressure, scrutiny and criticism on black quarterbacks than their white counterparts, it sure isn’t showing in the war room on draft day. 

I do not know Donovan McNabb personally.  The impression that I get from Donovan McNabb is that he has a chip on his shoulder.  I think he has that chip on his shoulder because he isn’t held in the same esteem as the other top quarterbacks in the game, something he feels he has earned.  What he is forgetting is that even the league’s elite face tough scrutiny. 

Ask Manning what it is like to be the best QB in the game.  I’m sure he wouldn’t say free from criticism and doubt.  Manning has won 2 League MVPs and threw for 49 touchdowns in a season.  Until last season that wasn’t good enough, because he was the Pro Bowl QB that couldn’t win the “big game.”  He sort of silenced those critics by winning the Super Bowl MVP.  However, the criticism was that while he won the Super Bowl, the defense and running game played too big of a role in delivering that Super Bowl.  He didn’t play well enough to take enough credit for the Colts run.  Therefore he still isn’t the big game QB that he should be.  Talk about tough and unfair criticism. 

Carson Palmer is not being criticized yet, because he has only been starting for 3 years.  Bulger is entering his 5th season as the opening day starter.  Brees is in his second year with New Orleans and is entering his 6th season as a starter.   Furthermore, all three of those teams have horrible defenses that are considered the part of the team that is holding the franchise back.   However, if postseason success eludes these young quarterbacks, they too will soon be labeled as disappointments.  If Brees doesn’t turn around this season, he will be the first to hear those criticisms. 

McNabb has been a starter since the 2000 season.  To his credit, he throws very few interceptions.  McNabb is the second least intercepted quarterback per pass attempt in NFL history, behind only Neil O'Donnell.  McNabb's career ratio is 1 interception per every 45.26 pass attempts.  This leads to his very respectable career QB rating of 85.2.  He makes a lot of exciting plays and played in four consecutive championship games from 2001-2004.  He went to the Super Bowl 2004.  In his defense, other than 2004, he has never had a game changing wide receiver. 

However, McNabb has a lot of negative points too.  To his detriment, he has a 58.1% career completion percentage.  He has only thrown over 3500 yards once.  He has only thrown over 20 touchdowns three times.  Furthermore, while other than TO, he has never played with a “game changing” wide receiver, he has played with a defense that finished in the top five in scoring defense 4 times, and was 7th in 2003.  Bulger, Brees, and Palmer have had the luxury exactly 0 times combined. 

When Donovan McNabb played well, he was given his just due.  His successful play led to many endorsements, not only for him, but his mother.  His most notable commercial was the Chunky Soup Commercials.  He also graced the cover of the 2006 John Madden Football game.  In 2004, he was widely considered the 3rd best QB in the game, behind Manning and Brady.  Had he maintained those numbers, he would still be receiving the same compliments he did in 2004.  However, while Brady and Manning have maintained their stats and team success, Donovan has not.  Trust me, if Peyton Manning plays 10 games the next 2 seasons and doesn’t break 20 touchdown passes or 3,500 yards, the cries for a replacement will be heard loud and clear. 

McNabb is now over 30.  While he has been a successful quarterback, he is by no means a Hall of Fame Quarterback.  He has not won a Super Bowl.  He has played 10 games or less 3 of the last 5 seasons, and finished the season on IR the last 2 seasons.  His mobility looks diminished; he is throwing the ball for a 54% completion percentage.  His team has scored one touchdown in over 20 offensive possessions this season.  I think it is a fair question for the media, fans, and the franchise to ask if his best days are behind him and if the Eagles would be better served to move in a different direction.   I think there are legitimate arguments on both sides of the issue.  If Donovan McNabb were white, we would be having the exact same conversation. 

Donovan needs to stop worrying about how people view his legacy, and whether that view is just.  What is most important is how Andy Reid and the Philadelphia Eagles view his current performance.  He needs to get his knee right and start winning some football games.  He needs to start playing like he did in 2004 and the beginning of last season.  This isn’t happening because the League, the Media, and the Fans want to see one less quarterback starting in the NFL.  This isn’t about diminishing what he did in 2004.  This is about whether Donovan McNabb has what it takes to be an effective quarterback in 2007. 

For his sake, he better figure it out fairly quickly.  If the Eagles miss the playoffs, he, like black and white quarterbacks that have been injured or unproductive for multiple years before him, will be looking for new employment in 2008.  Who knows, maybe he will replace Rex Grossman.  Then we can listen to Rex Grossman complain about the raw deal he received in Chicago.  Wouldn’t that be an ironic twist? 

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Nostradomus
Sep 21, 2007
3:58 PM
Street Cred: Thank you for laying it out there for everybody. Black, White, Brown, Yellow, Purple, Green, or White, if you don't produce in the NFL you WILL get criticized. Absolutely loved this blog, and it is right on point as well.

MiamiSports
Sep 21, 2007
4:20 PM
The real answer to the question you pose comes from the answers of other black QB's in the NFL. For example, Vince Young said to change your position if you can't take the criticism; Jason Campbell said he thinks it's a QB issue, not a color issue; and Steve McNair opened his weekly interview by asking for no McNabb related questions. Hmm.... Well, I'll leave it for you to interpret those responses...not hard though.

bafongu
Sep 21, 2007
5:12 PM
If blacks stopped complaining about racism, there wouldn't be any....

degraff
Sep 21, 2007
6:01 PM
Great post, can't argue with anything you have here. But those flipping purple and green quarterbacks suck and don't belong in the league.

StreetCred
Sep 21, 2007
6:16 PM
Nostradomus - Thank you as always.

Miami - I think that was very telling. He didn't seem to be getting a lot of support from the other black QBs. On the other hand, Campbell and Young have no reason to rock the boat, as they are relatively new on the job. What was telling is that instead of saying no comment, they went a step further by saying they didn't agree with it.

Bafongu - The key is finding a healthy balance. While I don't agree with McNabb on this issue, I don't think that your statement is very fair. I have been with black friends in car dealerships where sales associates will not talk to them, because they think they don't have money. Black people have plenty to gripe about, as there are a lot of things that could be better in this country.

While people that think everything is racial are kidding themselves, anyone that says racism is no longer an issue in this country are equally kidding themselves. In this particular case, I chose to disagree with McNabb, because I don't see any evidence to back up his claim.

Degraff - Thank you. Let me know when a purple QB gets drafted. I'd pay to see that.

Last edited by StreetCred on September 21st at 6:18 PM.

Questmaster
Sep 21, 2007
7:14 PM
Yes there's racism in the NFL. They won't let white guys play running back, defensive back or wide receiver.

hitpack
Sep 21, 2007
7:26 PM
Nostradums, you really are Nostradomus. Nobody cares about color, they care about winning. McNabb is 1-7 in his last 8 games and no one wants to hear him whining by playing the race card. People in Houston love Vince Young because he gives them hope to win. Donovan needs to just shut-up and perform.

StreetCred
Sep 21, 2007
8:49 PM
Questmaster - Good point. I don't think there is a conspiracy to keep whites out of those positions, but I think there would be more protest if it were the other way around. The other thing I like is that no one complains that there aren't enough people of Latin, Asian, or other cultures in the NFL. Why is that not an issue???

Hitpack - One question for you. While Vince Young is celebrated by Titan fans, don't you think it is because of his potential? No one questioned Vicks low QB ratings either, until the ratings never improved. If Vince Young is throwing for 78 yards in 2 years and the Titans are still a .500 team, I wonder how many people will be celebrating him then? The thing about McNabb, like him or hate him, is that at the beginning of his career he was a scrambling QB that evolved into a passer, highlighted by his 04 season.

Vince Young will need to do the same thing, otherwise his popularity will fade as well. While I am not a Titan fan, I hope he does it, because he seems to be a very likable guy whose success will be a big asset to the league.

Last edited by StreetCred on September 22nd at 6:27 AM.

slshusker
Sep 22, 2007
2:02 PM
Win and you're loved. Lose or get injured and you're not loved. How many of the current black QBs are related to the latter? Plenty.
QBs get b-anged up all the time.
Not many Favre types out there, are there.

McNabb may have decided his own fate in Philly.
Win this year Donovan, or the rookie gets playing time.

(edited, due to the BLEEP on '####ed up.')

Last edited by slshusker on September 22nd at 3:25 PM.

StreetCred
Sep 22, 2007
4:35 PM
sls - The other problem McNabb has is that he I believe he is 5-10 in his last 15 starts. I understand the interview was done before the season started, even though it is just airing now. However, the timing couldn't be worse.

Last edited by StreetCred on September 22nd at 4:36 PM.

Blackjackfan
Sep 22, 2007
9:37 PM
I absolutely agree with everything in this article and I would like your opinion on the following.

First, I believe that McNabb felt a lot of pressure to perform after watching Jeff Garcia lead the Eagles to consistent wins last year. This along with knowing he wasn't going to be 100 percent healthy may have led to the comments on HBO and his obvious frustration this season.

Second, I think the media, the fans and the Eagles Organization scrutinize McNabb's performance specifically because of Garcia's performance last year. Why can't McNabb win when Garcia did?

Third, McNabb lacks a key leadership ability that will prevent him from ever being labeled a "Great" quarterback. Great Quarterbacks of today and yesterday elevated the play of their teammates. While McNabb defenders justify McNabb's consistent below average passing performance on not having premier receivers. Great quarterbacks positively impact a receiver's performance not just by getting a ball close enough for a receiver to catch but also in the psychological aspects of receiving. Montana, Young, Favre, Manning, Brady and other "great" quarterbacks have or had numerous targets to choose from because they helped to create those great receivers. McNabb had TO for a season and did well. The other Eagle receivers did not elevate much if at all. Not to say Garcia is a "Great" quarterback but obviously he elevated the play of his Eagle teammates last year and now it is back to pre Garcia performance.

Last edited by Blackjackfan on September 22nd at 9:43 PM.

Blackjackfan
Sep 22, 2007
9:43 PM
Finally, McNabb needs to realize that he is incapable of playing the way he did before his injury, adjust his game to accomodate his reduced mobility and lead his team with a winning attitude rather that the whining attitude he has now.

Thanks again for your great insights.

slshusker
Sep 22, 2007
10:09 PM
Summary: If Donovan doesn't complete the pass, it's because of the white guy?

Get real.

McNabb has been busted up for four years. It happens all the time, yet McNabb, the racist, tries to play the race card. Drop dead racist. Call Jessie and Al. Your're done! No more soup commercials for you and yo mamma!

StreetCred
Sep 24, 2007
5:34 AM
Blackjack - I don't know what kind of leader McNabb is. I'm not in the locker room, and I don't know what his teamates think of him. No one questioned his leadership when the Eagles went to 4 straight NFC Championships. No one questioned his leadership when he went to the Super Bowl. I have a hard time believing that he has forgot how to lead a football team. That wouldn't be fair.

I think the problem has been two fold. Number 1 - He has finished on IR the last 3 years. Number 2 -The backups have been succesful. The best thing about Favre, Brady, and Manning is that we are only left to speculate how their teams would do without them, because they don't allow the backups to come into the ball game.

I agree with your assessment about McNabb at the receivers. That arguement gets old to me as well. The key is that you can't evaluate where McNabb is on a game by game basis. Is he as bad as he was the first two weeks? No. Is he as good as he was against the Lions? No. You have to let the season play out and see where the cards fall at the end of the year.

StreetCred
Sep 24, 2007
5:38 AM
Sls - I don't know if that is fair either. I think the problem in our society is that when someone talks about race, we are quick to label them as a racist.

I don't think McNabb is a fraud. I think what you see is basically what you get. I haven't walked a mile in his shoes. I have no doubt that he feels the way he said. I just don't agree with his opinion. That doesn't make me a racist, but at the same time it doesn't make him one either.

This society is going to go nowhere until people can talk about racial issues without people being labeled as racist when they do so. I respect McNabb for giving his opinion on the topic. I just don't agree with his assessment of the situation.

Kashtro04
Dec 12, 2007
3:10 PM
If Michael Vick were white he would be playin football right now. I'm not going to say what he did wasn't wrong, but come on people we're talkin about dogs here people. I seen on the news the other day a 5 year old killed a bear, why don't they prosecute him. People act like hunting isn't animal cruelty, why dont they prosecute those who run around shooting deer and little helpless rabbits and so on. If black people created hunting I bet it would be illegal, but because the majority of people who waste their time hunting are white, its seen as OK, what BS. If they wanna give Vick 2 years for killin dogs, they should give George Bush life for killin humans.

StreetCred
Dec 12, 2007
7:08 PM
Kashtro04 - I'm not trying to be sarcastic. This is a very serious question. Clearly you do not like what is going on in this coutnry. You obviously feel that the majority of this country hates black people. You obviously feel that black people are second rate citizens. Why do so many black people continue to live here???

If I felt that the majority of the people in my country hated me as much as you are saying, I would go somewhere that I was wanted and had the opportunity to succeed.

I am not so naive to think that there isn't racism in this country. I am not one of these uninformed idiots that think because the US passed the Civils Rights Act back in 1964 that everything is beautiful now. Clearly there are things in this country that need to change.

But I think that many people are being naive when they feel Michael Vick got railroaded. This isn't some guy living in Section 8 housing that got hosed by the public defender and the system. This man had a $135 million dollar contract and enough money to hire all the lawyers in Virgina to defend him. His mistake was not being black. His mistake was lying to the feds. The Feds don't play. They quit school because of recess.

5 year olds do not get prosecuted in this country. Bear hunting is legal. Dog fighting is not. While I respect your opinion, I think you really need to rethink this Michael Vick the $135 million dollar quarterback as the victim.

Last edited by StreetCred on December 12th at 7:09 PM.

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