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Conference Semi-Finals Predictions.
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In a nutshell, Rangers, Red Wings and Canadiens in six, Sharks in Seven.

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Messier94
Apr 23, 2008
12:08 PM
NHL refines a rule, and condemns Avery for his actions, but hey.... this classles league will do anything for a buck !!!!

http://www.nypost.com/seven/0423200
8/sports/rangers/cashing_in_on_aver
y_punk_act_107662.htm

I love Hockey, but the NHL sure is losing my respect. We have NHL on Versus, a 4th rate network and is downright terrible... horrible officiating, a league shut down which resulted in nothing of substance... what other atrocity should we expect under this regime ?

fauxrumors5
Apr 23, 2008
12:23 PM
1) The Penguins won't sweep the rangers as they have a real NHL goalie, but the pens can throw 2 super star lines at the rangers and the defense will be overwhelmed. Pens in 6
2) The Habs will do what the Caps failed to do; Exploit Marty Biron's weakness for high shots. Also the Flyers are very ####ed up after that series. Habs in 5
3) The Preds exposed some Wings weaknesses, but probably helped them in a way by forcing them to play Osgood, who at this stage is the better goalie. Wings in 6
4) Dallas surprised us against the Ducks. We won't underestimate them again. However we believe by finally beating the Flames in the playoffs the Sharks are now a more confident team and will start to roll to the Finals as many of us expected in the preseason. Sharks in 5

RCP5691
Apr 23, 2008
1:40 PM
The officiating has always been inconsistent at best. And the Versus thing is not new either.....remember the sports channel contract? However, since the shut down we have had much better hockey. There is more parity and the games at the beginning of the season actually mean something. (ask the Sens) The final playoff spots were not decided until the last game of the year. And, 80% of the teams were in a playoff hunt for the majority of the year. And, there will be two new teams in the finals this year. Attendance is up, ratings are up, and revenue is up. Yeah, and this regime produced the outdoor game between the Pens and the Sabres which drew one of the highest ratings for an NHL game.

Matt_McCallum
Apr 23, 2008
2:37 PM
Well, I only called six of the first eight series, but my projected Stanley Cup Finalists are still alive.

NY Rangers / Pittsburgh:
This was my projected Eastern Conference Final. Now it happens a round early. I'll stick with my original prediction of the Rangers in 7 on the strength of Lundqvist. That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see Pittsburgh win and, barring significant injury, I believe whoever wins this series is going to the Final.

Montreal vs. Philadelphia:
While I was correct in thinking the Washington-Philadelphia series would go seven games, I was wrong in predicting the Caps would eek out a win in the end. (I was off by just a save...!) Then again, I thought Montreal would sweep Boston without much trouble. So much for me being an expert! This is an interesting match-up, and could easily go to the Flyers if Philadelphia is allowed to continue playing tackle football. But I think Montreal has more speed, better netminding and, after the scare put into them by Boston, they will settle down to business to take the series in 6.

Detroit / Colorado: My original set of predictions had these two clubs meeting in the semis with the Avalanche coming out on top. I see no reason to change. This is going to be a tight series, with the difference being that the Avs get more than 30 shots a game and simply pound away at the Detroit netminding. Colorado in 6.

*** continued below ***

Last edited by Matt_McCallum on April 23rd at 2:42 PM.

Matt_McCallum
Apr 23, 2008
2:38 PM
*** continued from above ***

San Jose / Dallas: Boy, Dallas hasn't gotten ANY love from me this season. My preseason predictions had them pegged at 6th or 7th in the Conference. For the playoffs I had them being swept by Anaheim (with maybe Turco stealing a game). Instead, all these guys do is win and make me look like a fool. I SHOULD learn my lesson and run with the Stars. But at the start of the playoffs I said San Jose was going to win the Cup, and I can't go wobbly on them now. Sharks in 6.

coyoteslover
Apr 23, 2008
3:35 PM
GO COYOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sakic19
Apr 23, 2008
4:20 PM
Yes, go Coyotes... right back to Winnipeg! :P

Habs in 6
Pens in 6

Av's in 7
Fins in 5

Pens in 6
Fins in 6

Fins in 5

prplmnkydw
Apr 23, 2008
6:23 PM
I'm going to stick up for Versus here... at least we do have NHL TV coverage, and in all reality it is not much worse than ESPN. In fact, Versus broadcasts some CBC feeds during the playoffs, and I have to say the CBC picture/camera quality is not very good. Also, I might add that Versus does a better job than many of the local Fox affiliates which show NHL games. I think the "Versus is terrible" story is getting old. Would the Versus detractors rather have the 1990s laser-pucks back?

Oh yeah... Avs in 7, Sharks in 6, Pens in 5, Habs in 7.

Last edited by prplmnkydw on April 23rd at 6:24 PM.

Sakic19
Apr 23, 2008
6:46 PM
prplmnkydw - How do you know the "CBC picture/camera quality is not very good" isn't due to a poor signal by Versus?

Regardless, the atmosphere on CBC is unmatched by any IMO.

ATRAIN78
Apr 23, 2008
7:03 PM
I agree Sharks in 5 !! The Stars are going to an easier opponet than the Flames were!

Dellow19
Apr 23, 2008
7:44 PM
The Habs won't win the next series. They aren't tough enough to compete in the playoffs. Unless you call diving tough because "even if the ref calls us for diving we can out play them 4 on 4!" Good coaching!!!! They make me sick.

jon_464
Apr 23, 2008
8:22 PM
Flyers-Canadiens: Flyers are looking like the team of destiny. Flyers in six games.

Pens-Rangers: Pens are on a crash course with the Flyers and they have Sid the Kid and Malkin. Pens in six.

Wings-Avalanche: Wings will find a way to choke in the postseason. Avs in six.

Sharks-Stars: This is a much better matchup for the Sharks than the Flames were. Sharks in five.

Thadd
Apr 24, 2008
2:59 AM
I was back in Canada in January for the first time in 4 years. As usual CBC had great play-by-play announcers... but watching a game with Fox broadcasters was incredibly painful. Even in an empty room I found myself screaming at the TV because they spend so much BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!!!!!!!! time talking about #### that, which isn't relevant.

####: You know I was talking to Bill the other day ago. Such a great guy. Great to see him having such a great year.

Retarded Color guy: Oh yeah. It's amazing what great people we have playing in the NHL here today.

####: You know what I'd like to see is.... SCORES!!!! Datsuk with a beautiful one timer from Zetterberg! My god, that's what this sport is all about.

I'm not kidding. They do sound that bad. They spend 90% of the game spitting out filler. No wonder so many Americans choose not to watch hockey games. If I were living in a city with tv commentators as lousy as them I wouldn't be able to get into hockey either.

Plazma
Apr 24, 2008
7:34 AM
Flyers over Habs in 7
Pens over Rangers in 6

Wings over Avs in 7 (unfortunately, but I'm totaling rooting for Joe S. and the boys)
Dallas over SJS in 6

Semis:
Pens over Flyers in 6
Wings over Stars in 6

Finals:
Pens over Wings in 7

Go Avs!!!

jmarks24
Apr 24, 2008
8:20 AM
Just an observation here, every fan from every team remaining in the playoffs is complaining about the refs. So the refs can't be all that bad if everyone from every team is complaining.

Habs, Pens, Wings, Sharks.

tonymont
Apr 24, 2008
8:23 AM
It all goes back to the commishioner. Betman has to go He is killing Hockey and his rule changes during the playoffs will probably lead to serious law suites and litigation if they are implemented and it shows it benefits one team (Always Pittsburgh the league is pushing Crosby as their poster boy. He is a nice kid but far from the best player in the league. He may not even be the best player on his team. GO RANGERS

Cup_Junkie
Apr 24, 2008
8:54 AM
O.K.!!!!!!!

Lots of predictions and the usual non-coherent babble fron Hab-haters about how my team sucks without any such viable explanation.

People, you can make comments without sounding like over-sexed 15-year olds who know nothing about hockey. I'll admit I've made mistakes recently yet I'm not above admitting when I'm wrong.

My Habs always suck for one reason only, because they win, eveyone (Habs fans excluded) loves it when they lose, but come playoff time....Hey Philly fans maybe one of your players can pull a Justin Williams and perform on-ice eye surgery on Koivu, that'll give you a chance, it worked for the 'Canes! Fact is Montreal doesn't have an Ovechkin but we have 5 20-plus goal scorers. Boston couldn't contain our offense after Koivu came back and I don't think the Flyers will do much better.
Montreal's defense is better than Washington's and there's a reason we traded away Huet! Barring injuries there is no reason to believe this series is going seven. Habs in 5 or 6.

For the Pens to advance, Fleury is going to have to prove himself, these Rangers aren't dead in the water like the Sens were. Still, Rangers in 6.

Avs and Wings, don't count out the Avs too quickly, I'll agree this series is going seven but I'm not so sure it'll be Detroit advancing. This series is going to rekindle some old animosity and if Sakic plays like the Sakic of old, Avs in 7.

Dallas vs. San Jose, the Sharks came close to repeating as first-round disappointments again, still they came out of this series relatively healthy. Maybe now Thornton will show some ability t

Last edited by Cup_Junkie on April 24th at 9:03 AM.

Cup_Junkie
Apr 24, 2008
8:57 AM
lead his team further. Turco will have to stand on his head to keep the Stars in it, something he is very capable of. Still I'll go with the Sharks in 6. However, I will say that the winner of this series San Jose or Dallas, will make it to the finals.

Last edited by Cup_Junkie on April 24th at 9:04 AM.

RCP5691
Apr 24, 2008
9:25 AM
Habs in 6

Pens in 6

Wings in 6

Stars in 7

Matt_McCallum
Apr 24, 2008
9:40 AM
Thadd:

Rather than "American" announcers, it might be better to make the distinction traditional and non-traditional hockey market announcers. Living down in the US now and getting Centre Ice (and watching WAY too much hockey for the wife's liking), there are certainly a lot of good announcers around the league, but more than a few duds.

Part of the problem is the conversational element that's borrowed from baseball -- it's a long game, we've got to fill the silences somehow. But the lack of familiarity with the local audience in the details and nuances of the game prohibits a lot of detailed analysis and discussion (or at least, so they think). So they keep it light and at the surface level, talking about good community guys and the like.

For a comparison, pick up the broadcast from Texas of a college football game. They assume their core audience has played football from kindergarten and they go into such technical detail that to my ears sounds like "wha wha wha wha quarterback wha wha."

And that may be what a HNIC broadcast that we enjoy and take for granted would sound like to the casual American hockey fan.

Building the American audience, NBC and Versus should strongly consider getting a Howie Meeker-type to break the games down between periods, and as part of their pre-and-post game coverage.

Last edited by Matt_McCallum on April 24th at 9:41 AM.

Joe76316
Apr 24, 2008
10:05 AM
Spector,

I totally agree with your predictions! But I have a question for you, or anybody here. Do you think that the Red Wings and Avalanche rivalry is over with, or still pretty hot???? I have read people saying it is over, but judging by the game when the Wings won 4-0 earlier this season, it seemed to be pretty hot.... I think when Mike Babcock was hitting the glass between beches at the Colorado coach and telling him to keep his boys in line is a pretty good indicator that its still on....

Thanks and keep up the great work!

GO RED WINGS!!!!!!!

Last edited by Joe76316 on April 24th at 10:07 AM.

clearthetrack
Apr 24, 2008
10:12 AM
Flyers against Stars for the Cup! Just kidding, folks. No predictions here but I could see the Avs playing the Pens in the finals-caught a few of the playoff games and both teams looked really good. However, I have a couple of questions perhaps some of you salary cap experts can help me with. If a team buys out a contract,how is it counted against the team's cap? My example is Darcy Tucker. He's slated to make $3 million a year for the next three years-if he's bought out how much does it count against the Leafs cap? Next question: is playoff revenue included in the amount that teams have to declare for salary cap purposes? That is, does this get counted toward how much players get paid? Thanks

Cup_Junkie
Apr 24, 2008
10:22 AM
I can answer two of the previous questions.

Concerning the Avs-Wings, game 1 should set the tone. Fact is there are as many as 10 (I think) players still playing with their respective teams. That should be a factor.

As for the buyout, the Leafs would be on the hook for 2/3 of Tucker's contract and at twice the length, meaning the cap hit would be 1 million per season over the next 6 years.

Matt_McCallum
Apr 24, 2008
12:28 PM
Joe76316:

If there is anything that can jump-start the glowing embers of a rivalry or create one anew, it's a playoff series.

With Detroit and Colorado, you've got two proud, passionate squads each populated with greybeards who know they're running out of daylight in the quest for another Cup. Both clubs know how to win and they know the price of winning. It should be a spirited affair.

AAAAARRGGGGGGGGG
Apr 24, 2008
12:35 PM
This is scary. I actually agree with the spector... I'll change my SJ pick to Dallas in 7 just so I won't feel so bad.

Truth is, all of these series are pretty dificult to call, and a LOT will ride on the game 1's and maintaining home ice advantage. If the wings or habs don't win the first two at home thier series will turn into dog fights, exepcially the wings/aves.

The Rangers and Stars really look good to steal a game on the road in the first two, and SJ and the Pens look fragile enough for a let-down if that happens. That swhy I'm picking Rangers and Stars.

The only one I see being a potential blow-out is Habs over Philly, but I said the same thing about Habs v Bruins, and look how that turned out.

GO WINGS!

fenwayfanatic67
Apr 24, 2008
3:49 PM
Hi friends,
At least Versus covers hockey. On ESPN it would be another sport squeezed in among other sports. Talk soon. Best wishes. fenfan

sabreguy29
Apr 24, 2008
7:28 PM
Honestly, I don't know how Hasek even walks around anymore. What's left to prove Dom?
Gold medal...check.
Name engraved on the Stanley Cup...check.
Hart trophy...check & check.
Wealthy beyond measure...check, I think (maybe he's like MC Hammer and blew all his millions on toys?).

Anyway Wings, stick with the "kid" Osgood in goal. He's the best chance you probably have now, God help you.

Sakic19
Apr 24, 2008
7:33 PM
Anyone else notice the first, second, fifth and sixth seeds from bot conferences advanced, meaning the third, fourth, seventh and eighth seeds in both conferences were eliminated?

sabreguy29
Apr 24, 2008
7:48 PM
Funny how it worked out that way Sakic19.

Although it took a Flyer PP goal in overtime to get the East lined-up right!

midknt
Apr 25, 2008
7:47 AM
No classless its clueless....they have a rule for it its called obstruction playing a man who is not handling the puck....duh ..if i have to keep watching these refs who have no clue about how to see a penalty its going to kill the sport .. ie not one but two bad calls in last night Habs v Flyers..high stick goal and a phamton knee call gotta make sure the "fav" team wins ugh

Cup_Junkie
Apr 25, 2008
7:57 AM
WOW and I'm sure Lupul's kicked goal was good eh? Typical anti-Hab! What gets me about your type is you only see what you want to see. Kovalev's stick was at crossbar height when it touched the puck. Mike Richards was called for tripping and not a knee. Afterall he did stick his leg out. If you think that was a bad call, what about the Komisarek penalty which lead to Lupul's kicked goal? Komo was getting out of the way of a linesman when he semi-collided with a Flyer player and was called for interference. Fav team my behind.

BTW did you see Jeff Carter's stick shatter during the faceoff before Kovalev scored? Kovalev uses a wooden stick too! Bring back the wood!

jmarks24
Apr 25, 2008
8:42 AM
Hey Spec, how about a story on the refs. This playoff year I am neutral, but have read on about every teams site, remaining in the playoffs, about how bad the refs are doing. If everyone is complaining, the refs must be doing a decent job then. Being a ref in the fastest sport alive must be one of the hardest things to do. True hockey fans know it is not the ref that cost the game, it is how the team plays for 60 minutes. Instead of blaming the ref, why not blame the guy who made the penalty in front of the ref. This ref stuff is really old.

Last edited by jmarks24 on April 25th at 8:45 AM.

Alexei_Cashin
Apr 25, 2008
11:11 AM
Mr. McCallum, very good analysis of the different types of announcers... i agree it's not particularly a canada-america thing, but more of playing to your audience

Canadiens in 5
Pens in 6

Detroit 6
Sharks 6

Given the remaining East teams, I'd love to see the Rangers in the finals, but I don't think it's to be.

For the record, among other reasons, since San Jose is the only remaining team that hasn't participated in a cup final in the past 16 years (and one of only two that haven't won in that span), I'm on their bandwagon now. Go Sharks Go! (of course, every team I've adopted so far has fallen... Ottawa, Calgary, Washington, Minnesota... d'oh)

Last edited by Alexei_Cashin on April 25th at 11:13 AM.

midknt
Apr 25, 2008
11:19 AM
hey junkie its not anti hab its anti #### calls, same thing with uneven and inconsistent calls .. ie Simons 30 game Afinaganof does the same thing and nothing is called or done .and as far as the penalties go 90% seem to be make up calls for ones they missed a minute earlier . the high stick goal thers a great pick in the paper of him stick blade puck in air and above the crossbar and if you hit the cross bar AFTER the puck is going in the net that kind of says ooops its a high stick hell even the anouncers were stunned by the allowance of that goal

HermanZeGerman
Apr 25, 2008
1:15 PM
Cup Junkie:

You got it all wrong. For starters, Kovalev's descending stick hit the cross bar. Logic would state that when he made contact with the puck, his stick was in fact ABOVE the bar.

And Richards was called for kneeing. Too bad it was a nice shoulder check first which was a solid defensive play.

Montreal was gifted that game by the refs. Plain and straight up simple.

And for a number one seed to look like that at home against the inferior Flyers...

Habs fans - don't get so comfy with the notion that you'll get to burn more cars come June...

Sakic19
Apr 25, 2008
5:14 PM
First off I didn't see this goal (I was watching the other game), but I thought the player with the high stick wasn't the player that scored, but he directed the puck to someone else that scored. If that's wrong then the following is irrelevant.

I flipped it over and heard (former referee) Ron MacLean speaking about it. He said the "cross-bar" level is only a high stick if you score a goal. If you knock the puck down and the stick is below the shoulder and the puck goes to someone else it's a goal.

Hopefully I'll see the goal tomorrow on TSN's "Top 10 plays of the week" segment.

Cup_Junkie
Apr 25, 2008
10:37 PM
O.K. (sigh!)

Kovalev touched the puck, not with the blade of his stick but with the shaft! The rule stipulates that the puck and the part of the stick that touches the puck cannot be higher than the crossbar at the moment of contact. That explanation satisfied Martin Biron. So what if Kovie's stick blade touched the top of the net, the part of the stick which touched the puck was at crossbar height. They've got cameras all over the Bell Centre for the video judges to make that determination. I've come to expect this from certain fans, the same fans who have no qualms about scoring a goal after pushing a Caps player into Huet, then getting a power play in overtime on a questionable call!
Besides the refs and the video judges all agreed on the Kovalev goal and they must have seen the same footage as all of us did, what did I get wrong????

Herman, go watch the game! Martin Biron played awesome, even going out to poke-check Plekanec cause Hatcher couldn't even get close,Coburn and Jones weren't much faster. He's the reason this game even went into overtime. Lets forget Flyer turnover after turnover and our hitting 2 goal posts, and we did score on our own net.

As for your predictions, (i.e Boston in 6) I'm not very scared. Concerning your inappropriate car-burning comment, those weren't Hab fans! I was there!!! That mess began over an hour after the game ended.

My Habs'll see whoever you're going to predict will beat them in the third round.

Cup_Junkie
Apr 25, 2008
10:46 PM
In fact if I can elaborate more on the high stick rule. The league seems to be going toward the trend of eyeing the location of the puck at the moment of contact. Being that the puck is the most visible object when reviewing video footage. I've seen this all year long and the calls by the video judges have been consistent with this.

I don't know if anyone noticed but that red stripe at the top of the boards where the glass starts is approximately crossbar height and has been used all year long to help determine goals scored when a high-stick is involved. Montreal, like all the other teams, have had their share of allowed and disallowed goals. It's part of the game, then again so are the rantings of fans from other teams who can't accept the fact that their team has lost, I'm used to all this!

Sakic19
Apr 26, 2008
5:22 AM
Saw the Richards hit last night during the intermission. Wow, not even close to being any contact aside from the knee on knee. Sakic was suspended for a playoff game back in 1997 for less than that, so I don't see Philly having much to argue there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v
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That goal? That goal was clearly the biggest gift since Brett Hull's goal in 1999. However, this is only game one, and the home team won, it's still anyone's series.

About the riot, to blindly say all/none were Canadiens fan is rather close minded. Just because they were there doesn't mean they were fans, and just because they weren't wearing a Canadiens sweater doesn't mean they weren't fans. It's all a bunch of pointless semantics IMO, and he's just trying to bait you Cup_Junkie.

(Hmm, "bold" works, why can't I do a link then? Any advice is much appreciated.)

Last edited by Sakic19 on April 26th at 5:28 AM.

Cup_Junkie
Apr 26, 2008
8:36 AM
At the very least, those involved in the vandalism who were Habs fans were extremely few and were not behaving like true Habs fans.

Most of the real fans had already left for home. Those who stayed watched in disgust and some even took pictures which ended up in the hands of police and the newspapers. I'd say that 99.9% of Habs fans were not involved in the riot from a destructive point of view, but they were involved as witnesses and video vigilantes.

Sakic19:
You're right, I shouldn't let myself be baited, especially by those who spurt out opinion without any backing up with facts. It is easy to say this and that about gifting a whole game while ignoring other facts which prove the opposite. Guess we have to tolerate the fact that any individual however intellectually deficient he/she may be, who has an internet connection, is going to spew out some addle-minded rubbish just to blow off some steam. BTW go Avs! Loved the energy of game 1, hope Theo feels better.

HermanZeGerman
Apr 27, 2008
2:24 PM
CJ:

You know nothing about physics, are blind or have a limited basis of knowledge of the sport. He hit the puck with the heel of the blade and it went in. That strike was above the net.

And as for the Richards hit, he hit him with his shoulder first, then other parts of the body made contact.

If you really think that the Habs are deserving of even having this series tied, you are off your bloody rocker.

I will say this - the Canadiens are a far superior team - they are simply being outworked, out hustled and out played by a far more gritty and opportunistic team. The Habs did not look good in game one and looked even worse in game two.

And lastly, not taking ownership of things is a truly Canadian attribute. I'm not Canadian and can easily admit to when I've made mistakes. Your posturing indicates that you take no ownership of the fortuitous calls by the officials.

Cup_Junkie
Apr 27, 2008
8:59 PM
I'm only repeating what is being done by the league, that being that they seem to be calling the height of the puck at the time of contact, which has been consistent throughout the season. Kind of like when the puck has to be completely accross the goal line, so the puck has to be completely over the crossbar. It is easier for the vid-replay judges to determine it I guess. Just go look for other examples and you'll see.

That aside,I thought I mentioned earlier that there were bad calls on both sides. Lupul's goal in the third period was questionable as well not only the goal but the penalty (interference on Komisarek)call as well, these things happen, any good team is capable of overcoming such obstacles since they tend to balance out in the long run. However you seem to ignore these facts because they don't fit your theory, not very academic!

As for game 2, the Habs actually outplayed Philly, keeping their defence on their heels all night long. Again go watch the game!!! Afterwards you may want to thank Martin Biron for what was a spectacular performance. Definitely his best game of the post-season. He deserves star of the week for that one! As for Price, he reminded me a little of Red Light Racicot! If MTL keeps the offensive pressure going well.......Bye Bye!

SJBailey
Apr 27, 2008
9:25 PM
Sorry Spector, but I have to disagree. Pens in 4..Wings in 5 ..... Cans in 7... Stars in 6 or 7.

Matt_McCallum
Apr 28, 2008
7:32 AM
Well, I'm beginning to feel like the fellow who talked people into going on holiday using an airline that mid-trip goes belly-up and leaves them all stranded with no way to get home.

So much for my predictions thus far: Penguins, Red Wings and Stars all lead 2-0 in their series (and in convincing fashion to boot). Only Montreal and Philadelphia even at game apiece is offering some hope.

I realize the puck turns quick and by the end of the week we could be looking at some 2-2 and 3-2 series, and I won't have to return my crystal ball. But on a Monday morning, as I struggle awake to face the week, I just have to wonder:

1. Is Pittsburgh ever going to lose a game en route to the Final?
2. Is this FINALLY Marty Turco's year?
3. Does San Jose have the mental toughness to bounce up off the mat and beat the Stars 4 times in 5 nights?
4. Is this the end of Peter Forsberg or will he play against Detroit (and will it even make a difference if he does)?
5. Are we watching that once-a-decade run by Montreal to the Stanley Cup, where against all reason they win just through sheer force of will?

HermanZeGerman
Apr 28, 2008
10:20 AM
CJ:

Most telling stat of the series: The combined minutes that Montreal has played with a lead....(may I remind you that both games so far have been at home and that the Habs are playing the lowly 6th seed with a loathesome first line centre)

I do admire your exuberance, but find it a bit foolish.

Lupul's goal was never "questionable". In contrast, Guy's ludicrous comments regarding the hit on Timonen were. Perhaps that tosser is the one who ignited the Post Game 7 vandalism... Classess hit. Classess words.

Matty:

Your questions all make sense except the one about Montreal. I can't fathom how a ONE seed would win on will... One would think that the one seed would win because they are a good club, no? And a one seed's victory would never be classified as "against all reason," correct?

Matt_McCallum
Apr 28, 2008
11:33 AM
HermanZeGerman:

It's been a while, my friend! I hope you are well.

In response, all I can say is that there are "one seeds" and there are "one seeds", and pending further evidence, Montreal is among the former. They had a great regular season, but the playoffs are a different beast and at this point I'm not convinced they are a Cup-winning team.

Moreover, since reason is based on observation and evidence, let's look over the last couple of years. In the last five playoff seasons, only one Eastern first seed (Tampa Bay, 2004) and one Western first seed (Detroit, 2002) have gone all the way. Indeed, out of 10 possible first seeds (five each conference), those two teams are the ONLY first seeds to even MAKE the Final Round. Based on recent history, first seeds have been knocked off 80 percent of the time enroute to the Final. Thus, being the first seed does not translate into playoff success.

More to the point, with the playoff system that we have now, the margins of difference are narrower between all the clubs that make the post-season, and individual match-ups become all the more critical.

If Montreal gets past Philadelphia; then gets past the NY Rangers or Pittsburgh in the Eastern Final; and then gets past Colorado, Dallas, Detroit or San Jose in the Stanley Cup; with a rookie netminder and a roster light on star power, it's going to be through sheer force of will.

HermanZeGerman
Apr 28, 2008
2:57 PM
Mattie!!!

Great to see you up there on the boards...Forgot to mention that when the Oil was in town to play the Caps (was Canuck Armed Forces Appreciation Night), I got totally tanked with some service people and tried giving you a ring only to find out that your number is unlisted, more than likely for this exact reason!

Montreal, while lacking the star power of two 8 or 10 million per players, is still chockful of talent. In addition to seven notable first rounders (Hamrlik, Koivu, Komisarek, Higgins, Smolinski, Kostitsyn & Price), they have an All-Star in Markov. More importantly, I think they actually benefit from not having the shiny bright stars. They play like a team and deserved that top seeding by being the conference's most consistent team. I don't know that force of will describes them as accurately as does "tremendous balance, superior team speed, and impressive consistency". Spec - you're Super Fan No. 1. Your thoughts on what has made the Habs successful this season?

If anything, I would claim that the Flyers would get the title of "force of will". Face it - they have been ravaged by injuries, have a whole new line-up, an unproven netminder, are the 6th seed and won an OT Seventh Game on the road...

Matt_McCallum
Apr 28, 2008
4:09 PM
HzG:

Actually, the phone number's unlisted because my wife doesn't like having patients phone her in the middle of the night at home. She'd rather have them dial the answering service and have the answering service call her in the middle of the night at home. You can no doubt see the advantages of that approach... [*grin*]

Hey, ANY team that wins the Stanley Cup does so to some degree through the force of its will. Or, as Mark Messier put it, destroying the will to win in the other team. I'll grant you some teams need to do more through will and less through talent because they lack the personnel. (And some teams -- San Jose, for instance -- with all the personnel in the world and who just seem to lack that mental toughness...)

To state the Canadiens lack star power is not to slight them; it is obvious that they are not without talent. I like that club. They're relatively young, fast and play an entertaining game. They're the Pittsburgh Penguins or the NY Rangers without the marquee names. And THAT'S going to be the interesting challenge for the Habs come next round if they can get past the Flyers.

But let's not grant the series to Montreal quite yet; the Flyers aren't slouches. And they have star power in Daniel Briere!

HermanZeGerman
Apr 29, 2008
7:34 AM
The utterly biased officiating is making it difficult to watch this series. Downie didn't touch Jim Carey Price. That should have been two for diving and two for instigating.

And the FIVE minute MAJOR on Hatcher??? Jebus! Yet that greek tosser is allowed to take liberties with Kimmo and not get so much as a minute of sin bin quality time? Let's say that was Hartnell on Streit and Stevens said those awful things at the podium - care to guess the uproar on TSN? What a joke.

The Kovalev no-goal...

Why is TSN failing to mention this stuff? In their coverage of the game, they claim that Downie tripped Price. Entirely false. What is wrong with all these people that can't admit to the truth? Where in Canada is someone speaking about this?

Makes me sick.

FlyersStyle
Apr 29, 2008
8:39 AM
Last canadien team in it,thats why TSN is catering to them.Being a huge Flyers fan from Canada and having TSN as my homepage and knowing that hockey comes first for them,one would expect equal coverage...nope.As soon as a canadien team is down in a series,its like there's a halfbaked effort put in towards the other teams success.example:one of the things I kept hearing after game 3 was how once again the Habs outshot the Flyers,outshot,outshot,outshot,that
s all I hear.In the mean time I'm waiting for someone to mention how an AHL backup could've saved three quarters of those shots.

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