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Get A Life Jazz Fans
May 13, 2008 | 10:00AM | report this
           Utah, where they sell rows not seats—where men sit amongst their many wives and children and command them to cheer and boo. It is where class has apparently disappeared. Salt Lake is the only NBA city who’s players have more class than it’s citizens. I officially cannot stand Utah. Sadly, I really like the players—Deron Williams is an excellent point guard, but I got CP3. Carlos Boozer is a class act on the court, and a budding star at power forward, and I really admire the way Kirilenko goes after blocked shots. Despite these things, I root against the Jazz passionately. The reason? It’s fans. What I root for is not any particular team, but for Jazz fans to suffer perpetually in the same way that Cubs fans have for over a century, and in the same way Boston fans did for so long. I have not possessed a similar level of immature ignorant hatred since my Heat were owned by the Knickerbockers of New York in the mid-to-late 90’s.

            If you are wondering why I feel this way toward a group of people typically known to be among the more “classy” fans in the NBA, it is because they have acted with even less class than Detroit fans did in the Palace Brawl a few years back (at least Ron Artest is a dirty player and a ####). Every time Los Angeles Lakers point guard Derek Fisher touches the basketball Jazz fans boo him relentlessly. They boo him in the way fans boo a player who openly disrespects another team in the media, or when a player abandons a team for more money or because they are tired of losing. They receive Fisher in Salt Lake the way Jason Kidd should be received in Jersey—shame on them.

            Everyone who knows D-Fish personally says he is a class act, including his former Jazz teammates. As everyone has probably heard by now, last year Fisher’s 11 month old daughter was diagnosed with retinoblastoma which is a degenerative, cancerous condition that affects vision. At this time last year he was forced to leave his teammates in the midst of the Western Conference semifinal series against the Golden State Warriors to fly with his daughter to New York for emergency surgery. Fisher was supposed to miss an entire game. Instead, while watching from home and seeing his team in trouble, he actually arrived at the arena in the third quarter to help them out—Deron Williams was in foul trouble and the back up point guard had been injured. Fisher came out of nowhere, and eventually hit a game-clinching three point shot in overtime, giving Utah fans one of their most memorable moments ever (unless you count when MJ pushed off Russell and hit the J to end their hopes at a title). How do they thank Mr. Fisher? With boos and colorful language.

            Yes D-Fish asked to be released from his contract with Utah, he wanted to seek better care for his daughter—who wouldn’t? Yes he signed with the Lakers less than three weeks later, there are great physicians in Los Angeles—that is no secret. Shaq even went to L.A. in the middle of last season while still with the Heat to see a specific physician. Get over it Jazz fans, you have no reason to be upset. Was Fisher trying to escape to a better team? Hardly, if anyone else recalls, the Lakers were in turmoil all summer and well into the fall; not to mention the Jazz advanced further than the Lakers in the postseason last year. Did he benefit financially? Fisher gave up more than $8 million total—he was due $22 million for the remaining 3 years in Utah, and the Lakers gave him $14 million over the same span. Where is the vast betrayal? Forgive me if I fail to see the grand injustice that Fish committed against the city of Salt Lake and the Jazz franchise. In fact, with Fisher off the books the Jazz were able to maneuver the roster and add some key players to help them have a better chance at winning!

            The way Jazz fans have treated Fisher is inexplicable, unjustified, and inexcusable. If anything they should have given the man a standing ovation the first time he rolled into town for leaving his daughter for a few hours to play hero on that memorable May night a year ago. Instead they show evidence of the growing rift between athletes and fans. The combination of ignorance, disinterest, and shear disillusionment on the part of fans is to blame for this situation. It has become the norm for players to be disloyal to their city and teammates; we are no stranger to athletes manipulating the system or simply acting like selfish babies. However this is purely not the case with regards to Derek Fisher. These men are humans as well as athletes—they are husbands, fathers, brothers, and uncles. Their primary responsibility is to their family. Would any of those fans find it to be justifiable if say they needed to find a job in a new city closer to proper health care for their family member, and every time they visited Salt Lake they were heckled in the streets and harassed for leaving? Absolutely not, grow up Utah. I never thought I would root for the Lakers, but I am. I can only hope that Derek Fisher hits the game-winner at the buzzer in Salt Lake city so that instead of hearing you boo we could all hear this…..That is complete silence, maybe you guys should practice—oh wait you have, professor Jordan gave you a good lesson on that one.

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ReverendRhythm
May 13, 2008
10:35 AM
I don't know that I've ever met a Jazz fan.

NiqueDodson
May 13, 2008
10:39 AM
I agree 100% Great blog. Well written and factual. Thank you.

SRMgenius
May 13, 2008
11:03 AM
Rev, indeed, it seems that that would be the problem. Everything about the area is cult-like, including their support of the Jazz. They have no regard for anything going on outside of Salt Lake which is why they act like ####.

SRMgenius
May 13, 2008
11:03 AM
Thank you for the compliment Nique, glad you enjoyed it.

gambitxxx
May 13, 2008
11:04 AM
I've never met anyone from Utah personaly but I have to say this is a great post and one based on fact. I wonderd this whole series as to why they booed him. I'm sure they all have some lame #### excuse or will say something along the lines of it's just fans being fans, which in my opinion is #### poor and classless. good job pointing out the obvious.

SRMgenius
May 13, 2008
11:07 AM
Gambitt, I like the avatar, that'd be a tight tattoo. Anyway, I think this is far worse than even booing Santa Claus...When Philly did that at least it was funny, what the people of Utah are doing is harassing a guy for making a tough decision (maybe not so tough considering the hell-hole he left) and doing what is right for his daughter.

J-DIZZLE
May 13, 2008
11:11 AM
Well for one thing, the Jazz is all they have in Utah. So I can understand why their fans are so rabid. Look at Sacramento, same thing different area code.

No baseball team. No football team. No authentic Chinese restaurants like you see all over Monterey Park, CA.

And the NBA understands this. That's why Utah's consolation prize is being known year after year as being one of the worse places to play in and one of the loudest arenas. Therefore, David Stern and the refs give them special treatment for it.

For a city that has nothing, the very least the NBA could do for them is to give them an identity.

Unfortunately, they probably won't ever win a championship.

Last edited by J-DIZZLE on May 13th at 11:12 AM.

BleedPRPL&GLD
May 13, 2008
11:35 AM
I don't have a problem with a city supporting their squad. As much as I despise the Suckramento Queens teams, I respect the enthusiasm of their crowd...same goes for the Jazz.

The Fisher thing is a bit different, and I guess I could overlook it if it were only a few fans, but the entire arena seems to have chimed in...it's sad because Fish gave that organization all he had.
It's a bonehead move by Utah.

I must add that L.A. fans were pretty lame to chant DUI at Carmelo mere months after Lakers owner Jerry Buss was arrested for the same thing.

I think it's safe to assume there are random idiots in every arena in every country, but the unity with regards to Derek in Utah is disheartening.

So much for "Big Love" in SLC...
I guess it's easy to judge when you have 17 kids with 5 wives...having one daughter with an eye problem can just get lost in the fray.
When you have litters of children, the runt can be replaced pretty easily.
Christian Values??



LAKERS IN JUNE.

SRMgenius
May 13, 2008
11:36 AM
LOL

timmoore2
May 13, 2008
11:59 AM
I talked to a Lakers fan that went to game three on Friday. He basically confirmed everything you said. A bunch of cardboard cut-outs yelling as loud as they can. They're in a weird state of mind over there... They built that arena the way they did for the sole purpose of crowd noise and energy. The thing I've noticed is that their energy lacks passion. They just yell because that's what they're supposed to do.

SRMgenius
May 13, 2008
12:29 PM
tim, that's for sure, the ironic thing is that when Fish took the court that night when he coulda easily stayed home with his family, Jazz fans gave a standing ovation. I think there is one guy there in charge of knowing what is going on, everyone else just yells...It's like the NBA's version of an America's Funniest Home Video crowd with Bob Saget..."applause"...."Boo"....."La
ugh"...."We won celebrate".....I wonder what happens if the prompter gets jammed up? Will they boo a Kyle Korver 3?

SRMgenius
May 13, 2008
12:32 PM
Bleed I am still laughing, Mormons are crazy.

Magic53
May 13, 2008
12:53 PM
They may be mad that Fisher signed with the Lakers but his daughter is in New York being treated not in L.A.

Then again I don't trust any state that forbids me to have alcohol. Mormons are crazy.

nickfisco
May 13, 2008
1:00 PM
Well, you are stupid. I live in Utah and I am a Jazz fan, have been for a really long time. First off, We dont have multiple wives, I am not even married. The few "fanatical" polygamists would never attend a Jazz game. So, if you are going to make stupid assumptions, maybe you should do more research. Only about 30% of the people in Salt Lake City are active mormons. Mormons do not beleive in polygamy...I am a good old fasioned beer drinking heathen though, not a mormom.

Derek Fisher lied to Jazz fans. That is something you will never hear from ABC. Fisher made it sound like we have bad healthcare here, ABC is REALLY making it sound like that. We have the number 1 cancer institute in the WORLD, Primary Childrens Hospital is one of the best childrens hospitals in the country. He left Utah because he said "he can get better healthcare in New York, Miami, and L.A. He STILL is going to New York for treatments (just as much as in L.A.) but what is funny is Utah is closer to New York.

I personally would not boo him, but your facts are f-ed up. You are stupid, and really just like to make fun of Utahns because of an INFACTUAL steroetype. GET THE FACTS RIGHT ####.

I guess that is why you start blogs, heh? So, you can make cheapshots?

Those are the loudest cardboard cutouts I have ever heard. Also, to all the comments above. Unless you have been to the ES Arena, you have no say in the matter. We are a very passionate about basketball in Utah.

Last edited by nickfisco on May 13th at 1:07 PM.

timmoore2
May 13, 2008
1:17 PM
nickfisco has a point. too much badmouthing the Mormon religion here. The church does not approve of, nor allow polygamy. I have mormon friends and they are extremely respectable, friendly, people.

And nick, I was just relaying what was told to me by a friend who went to game three. he sensed a lack of heart... a big difference from what he's seen at Staples Center.

nickfisco
May 13, 2008
1:23 PM
I am sure there is a big difference from Staples and Energy Solutions. i will be honest, there are many fans at Jazz games that can be pretty "lame" Honestly, a big percentage of fans at games are pretty conservative people, L.A. is more relaxed then Utah...well duh.

SRMgenius
May 13, 2008
1:32 PM
Its called sarcasm dickfisco, do a little research on that. It is satirical, Utah has the biggest Mormon population in the United States, it is called a joke get over it. #### you and all Utah fans, you are all a bunch of self-rightouess pricks. Even if he didnt leave for health care maybe he felt uncomfortable having his ailing daughter surrounded by weirdos like you. Even if there are few fanatical polygamists tell me where else I will find #### of that sort? Maybe if you traveled past the mountains into the real world where citizens arent brainless sheep you will understand, ####. Fisher spent many years in LA, raised his older kids there for a big portion of their lives, so maybe he was more comfortable there. #### Utah and #### you, he didnt get more money or go to a better team...oh wait HE DID! Enjoy losing.

SRMgenius
May 13, 2008
1:37 PM
You must be the guy who runs the prompter...

nickfisco
May 13, 2008
1:38 PM
SRMpenius...I mean SRMgenius. I think you got your #### kicked by a Utahn or something...you seem really butt hurt over something. Still your just an ####. You are so god damned clueless. By the way, you call me a weirdo? You sit and blog un-facts because you wish you were a writer, your satire is awful. Luckily, you have the internet so you can put your retarded nonsense about people you dont know...and a few people take it seriously, so that pisses me off. I am not the one talking #### about people I dont know.

Last edited by nickfisco on May 13th at 1:41 PM.

nickfisco
May 13, 2008
1:44 PM
You said you have CP3? You must be a Hornets fan...how did the Hornets do against the Jazz this year. Ohhh thats why you are so down on the fans here.

gambitxxx
May 13, 2008
2:36 PM
nickfisco,
He says he's a Heat ( I think anyways) fan, I think he meant he had CP3 as a fantasy player. I'm from New Orleans and nobody here is mad because we lost more times than we won against your Jazz. Why should we, for one we ended up with a much better record and we are both in the same position at this time in the playoffs.

Tell me nickfisco how did Fisher lie to the people of Utah? When he joined the Lakers I remember the whole press conference and if memory serves me right he never promised where he would get his daughter healthcare just that for her condition L.A. and N.Y. had the better specialist. That's the point you are missing. I can't say that in Utah they don't have good cancer docs there but do they specialize in what his daughter has? Obviously not because staying in Utah would have not been an issue. You my friend are the one who needs to do some research.

Last edited by gambitxxx on May 13th at 3:09 PM.

BleedPRPL&GLD
May 13, 2008
2:43 PM
I have family that are Mormans also, it's just breaking balls nickfister...relax.


I did like the guy in the front row in Utah,
...wearing a GOLD LAKERS KARL MALONE JERSEY.

...classic.

The greatest player in Jazz history had to come South for a real shot at the title...too bad he got injured...he might have gotten it here.

Shouldn't the Utah team be called the Great Salt Lakers?...just a thought.


LOS ANGELES LAKERS IN JUNE.

Ubershorty
May 13, 2008
3:08 PM
I totally agree with this blog and I also totally agree with J-DIZZLE.

timmoore2
May 13, 2008
3:19 PM
Bleed, i thought the same thing when i saw that guy with the Malone jersey.

good stuff.

gambitxxx
May 13, 2008
3:46 PM
SRMgenius,
Thx I like it as well. I'm thinking of changing it though, I get bored real easily. Besides my screenname is from the X-men (not from the local news outlet we have here in the Big Easy as some may think) so was thinking of going with something that represents that.

Tsunami
May 13, 2008
4:24 PM
I totally agree that the Jazz fans are acting like annoying college fans. They should shut up and root for their team - stop getting personal with D. Fish.

But, I'm skeptical that Fisher joined the Lakers JUST BECAUSE he thought the physcians in LA were good. Cleveland has two of the best hospitals in the world, why didn't he come to Cleveland? We can use a point guard.

I think he wanted to be back with his old team. Not saying there is anything wrong with that, I just don't know if I buy that all of the decision was about his daughter. And if he was going to NY for treatments before - why didn't he end up with the Knicks?

rtjv
May 13, 2008
4:30 PM
Ok SRMpenius,

It wasn't satirical nor sarcastic, that's what idiots say when they have no good comeback. The state is not full of weirdos, I wonder just how many months you've spent in Utah. Sociology Studies show that Utah is not weird, but actually the healthiest, most family-friendly State in the Union. These are facts. Although alcohol laws are different in Utah, they have many clubs, restaurants and sports bars that serve alocohol, as well as state outlets. Polygamy was discontinued 117 years ago. The Arena is not sold by the rows and in fact, ES arena and the Jazz Franchise make it possible for any and all, who want to attend a game, possible. And PLEEEEEAAAASSSSEE, before going off on something like the Derek Fisher Story, get your facts straight before popping off with half truths and gossip. You sound like an old woman who has nothing better to do but start unfounded rumors.SHEESH

And one more thing, all you sheep following SRM, think for yourself, do your own research, as a researcher I have to do that.

Last edited by rtjv on May 13th at 4:38 PM.

edclinchsaint
May 13, 2008
8:05 PM
Thanks for the facts on the polygamous Jazz fans. I lived in Utah for five years and I never knew that all those nuts attended the basketball games!

It all makes sense to me now.

Just the facts, and all the rest comes together.

Great job.

On a serious note, simply because a few fans were absolutely atrocious, it does not reflect accurately on the majority of the fan base and the state of Utah.

Do the Laker games have sections for gangsta thugs?

Stereotypes are pjorative and insulting to our collective intelligence.

Last edited by edclinchsaint on May 13th at 8:31 PM.

edclinchsaint
May 13, 2008
8:44 PM
Nickfisco is very inciteful.

And Utah does have some of the best doctors in the world.Great pediatrics.

Why is she getting treatment in NY? Is Fisher really located in the best place for his daughter's sake? I don't want to question his fatherhood as a father myself, with a lot less money, but what gives?

They say there are 30,000 or so polygamous people in Utah. Out of 2.5 million, what percentage is that? And how many of them have season tickets?

And you mean to tell me that California or anywhere else has less people with multiple sex partners and mixed families?

I have lived 22 years in IN, 5 in UT, 6 in CA and 2 VA, plus 3 abroad. There are idiots everywhere, and hateful ones, too, as demonstrated by the words of this post.

Last edited by edclinchsaint on May 13th at 8:49 PM.

edclinchsaint
May 13, 2008
8:53 PM
Don't get me wrong, the chants and actions of those idiotic fans are unexcusable and the Jazz should quell it, but please don't blame the Church of Jesus Christ for the actions of those Jazz fans.

That is like blaming the LA riots on a stereotype that is wrong: Oh, it must be racial, right?

No. Hate is hate and it is wrong.

God bless Derek and his daughter, and the NBA and its fans. All of us.

bob260505
May 13, 2008
10:09 PM
why are they even called the Jazz, they havent been from New Orleans in 30 or more years!!

How about the Saltines, Salty Dogs, or Salt lickers!

AK47spiderman
May 14, 2008
5:30 AM
Who really cares if they boo Fisher in Salt Lake? The majority of the time it is when he is on the free throw line, where EVERYONE gets booed equally. The whole thing is blown out of proportion. If you come into Salt Lake not wearing a Jazz jersey, you are going to get it from the fans. That is what made/makes the Delta Center/Energy Solutions Center one of the toughest environments to play in the NBA, which explains Utah's awesome home record.

No one means any ill-will to Fisher’s daughter. He is a grown-#### man playing a professional sport. Expect to be booed.

SRMgenius
May 14, 2008
6:46 AM
notice the only people upset are the stick-up-your-#### Utahns, I am so glad to have offended you and your "intelligence." None of you are inSIGHTful, if you Utahns were inSIGHTful and "family oriented" then you would respect the man for making a decision that certainly affected the life of his ailing daughter. Whatever his reasons are his damn business, that is the point. What the people of Utah are doing is hateful and unnecessary, I am simply joking on a stereotype that I KNOW IS NOT ACCURATE jackasses, but I am not the only person in the world who makes such jokes about mormons and Utahns so take the stick out your #### and stick it in your mouth because what you are saying is useless and just displays your lack of a sense of humor and overwhelming selfishness. If you dont get it by now this piece was about pointing out how rude it is to judge someone you dont know. Instead its one person (me) calling out a city and state (hundreds of thousands of people), and with Fish its one guy taking it from a whole city, and it is unwarranted. Get it yet or should I translate it in Tongues for you?

SRMgenius
May 14, 2008
6:51 AM
ed, I am certain that you dont even know what hate is, please. I bet your one of those white people who pretends to empathize with others but you have no clue what it is like to be a victim of true hatred, what have you been through? Try being something other than a WASP in this lilly-white society and then preach about hatred you #### self-righteous hippie. Get over yourself you're a poser for God and you're going to hell just the same as everyone else who is part of this contaminated generation. I guarantee I am a much better person and do much more for people than you do and you are going to call me hateful, LOL. Shut up, seriously.

TheSizzle
May 14, 2008
8:09 AM
this could get ugly.

BleedPRPL&GLD
May 14, 2008
9:01 AM
Sizz,

"could"???

Too late, it already has.


LAKERS IN JUNE.

gambitxxx
May 14, 2008
9:02 AM
SRMgenius,
Man you really know how to stir the pot LMFAO! You got these Jazz fans panties all in a bunch.

SRMgenius
May 14, 2008
9:20 AM
lol good one ####, I mean rooster

SRMgeniusIsPete
May 14, 2008
9:21 AM
peter:

shut up, seriously.

SRMgenius
May 14, 2008
9:22 AM
yes ma'am

edmonspk
May 14, 2008
9:36 AM
I really don't have a problem with booing as long as it's in the setting of the game. Obscenities I could do without completely at any ball game.

The Lakers' franchise was founded in Detroit before moving to Minneapolis, where the team got its official title from the state's nickname (Land of 10,000 Lakes).

Last edited by edmonspk on May 14th at 9:47 AM.

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