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Let's Ease Off the Pedro Comparisons
Apr 20, 2007 | 10:22AM | report this

Yes, he has started his career with two 10 K games out of three.

Yes, he has a flair for the dramatic and is a great showman.

Yes, he was the MVP of the World Baseball Classic.

But, Daisuke Matsuzaka is no Pedro Martinez. Not even close.

I think that people in Boston are conveniently choosing to forget how good Pedro Martinez was in his prime between 1997 and 2002. In 1999, Pedro's ERA was  2.07... The League average ERA was 5.07. That is almost unfathomable.

Pedro's fastball routinely hit 96-97 Miles Per Hour. He had the best change-up in the league. And his curveball was devastating. Matsuzaka has several "plus" pitches but none of his pitches are as dominant as any of Pedro's top three pitches were.

Dice-K reminds me more of a young Mike Mussina than he does of Pedro Martinez. Believe me, that is no insult. Mussina throws three different fastballs (two seamer, four seamer and cutter), he throws a splitter, he throws a change-up and he has a phenomenal knuckle-curve that falls off the table. Similarly, Dice-K throws three different fastballs (two seamer, four seamer and shuuto), a great change-up, a slider and a pretty good curve-ball.

In short, Dice-K beats you because he can throw a bunch of pitches and he can throw them for strikes. Hitters are off balance because they never know what is coming.

Pedro was perhaps the most dominant pitcher during his prime that baseball has seen since the days of Koufax. He was better than Clemens. Better than the Big Unit. Better than Maddux. Better than Smoltz.

So, do me a favor. Stop comparing Dice-K to Pedro. It just ain't far. But I'll take a Mussina in his prime any day of the week.

OTHER RANDOM RED SOX RAMBLINGS:

Manny Ramirez will hit. Let's not get too concerned about his batting average around the Mendoza line and one homerun. He did the same thing last year and put up his usual 300 BA 35 HR 100 RBI.

Let's not get too excited over Josh Beckett just yet. He may be 3-0 with a sub 2.00 ERA, but he did exactly the same thing last year, before posting an ERA over 5.00 at the end of the year. If you Sox fans remember, Beckett was 3-0 with a 1.29 ERA on April 21 going into a start against the Blue Jays. He was cruising along in that game before intentionally hitting a batter (Aaron Hill) and then giving up a gopher to Vernon Wells to blow the game. He then got lit up in a start against Cleveland which started a percipitous downward spiral.

Free Wily Mo. Wily Mo Pena's homerun against Toronto was perhaps the most majestic shot hit in this young season. The kid's got power and plays a decent centerfield. Let's get Coco Crisp's anemic bat out of the line-up and give Ortiz and Ramirez some much needed protection.

Finally a good bullpen? The Sox have assembled a gaggle of good arms for this year's bullpen. Okajima has a fall off the table splitter; Donnelly has some much needed moxie; Papelbon is looking to become his generation's Rivera and is doing a great job; Pineiro has a decent arm; And Kyle Snyder and JC Romero aren't terrible either. Let's give Theo some credit for finally getting a bullpen in order.

Lugo a Go-Go- I kept hearing that Julio Lugo would be a huge step downward from Alex Gonzalez defensively. He may not be Gonzalez, but he ain't bad. Lugo tracks fly balls better than any shortstop this side of Derek Jeter. And his range to his left exceeds even Gonzalez. If he could get some more consistency with his throws, he'll be pretty good defensively. And did I mention that he swings the bat twice as well as Gonzo? I didn't? Well, he does.

Managerial Genius - Let's give Terry Francona some much deserved credit. With the Sox up 4-1 against the Los Angeles Angels (of Anaheim) last Friday, Tito brought in bullpen ace Jonathan Papelbon in the 8th inning with Vlad Guerrero at the plate and two men on base and one out. Papelbon overmatched Guerrero and induced a Garret Anderson fly-out to end the threat. Francona should be given credit for not waiting until the 9th to bring in the dominant stopper. The Sox ended up scoring six times in the bottom of the 8th, to make the game a 10-1 laugher. If not for Francona's decision, the momentum may have changed drastically.

 

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Morisato
Apr 20, 2007
10:49 AM
Good post. You're right. Pedro was simply much more explosive than Matsuzaka could ever hope to be. And unlike Matsuzaka, Pedro is a surething Hall of Famer with what he's done and his body of work will speak more than anything Matsuzaka has or will ever do.

FrankIrizarry
Apr 20, 2007
10:55 AM
Matsuzaka is still a mystery to us. I wish the media would lay off the story for awhile.

FlyingPig
Apr 20, 2007
11:43 AM
Dude...in his first year with the Red Sox...EVEN PEDRO wasn't PEDRO yet. Let's hope that Matsuzaka doesn't turn into the head case the Pedro did.

socalsportsfan
Apr 20, 2007
12:36 PM
Good post nus. Hope you followed my posts on Duke, but as suspected everyone free but damamged.

As for Dice K, the comparisons aren't fair, but I actually believe he has the potential to be better than Pedro. As for no one was as dominating as Pedro for a span of about four years, it was a remarkable run, but I would have taken a Maddux over a Martinez any day. Maddux is still winning games and Pedro is out disabled. Maddux is a HOF first ballot and will have over a 100 more wins than Pedro. That's a lot of wins. So that sounds more dominating to me.

Lastly, I agree Willy Mo should play every day. Committ to the kid.

PF
Apr 20, 2007
12:38 PM
The comparisons between Pedro and King Felix make more sense. I've been impressed with Dice K. It's too bad the run support has been terrible. He had a great outing against Toronto.

Nusl14
Apr 20, 2007
12:58 PM
Here is my response to the responses:

Pig - I don't know that I agree with your assessment that Pedro was not Pedro in 1998. He had already won his first Cy Yong award with the Expos in 1997, when he had a 1.90 ERA (I think) and over 300 Ks.

In 1998, he was 2nd in the league in ERA, Ks and Cy Young balloting (losing to Roger Clemens). I will concede that it was his most HRs allowed and highest ERA of any season with the Sox until 2004...

However, your point is well taken. We should be patient with Dice-K...

SoCal - I did indeed follow your blogging on the Duke scandal. I always enjoy your social commentary even if I don't agree with it.

During my blogging hiatus, I still did take the time to read your writing...

I think Pedro from 1997-2003 was more dominant than Maddux was at any point in his career. Yes, Maddux was more consistent but Pedro was untouchable in his prime.

PF - Felix Hernandez doesn't really remind me of Pedro becaus his curveball is so different and his change-up has more of a split-finger action. I would compare Felix to Dwight Gooden (minus the cocaine).

I think he is one of the five best pitchers in the league though and is a potential Hall of Famer given his age.

Thanks for reading folks!

socalsportsfan
Apr 20, 2007
1:30 PM
My argument would be on Pedro is that he has never had two back to back 20 game winning seasons. He was 19-7 in 98 and then 21-4 in 99. Those were his two dominant years. Then he won 18, then 7, before going for 20 again in 2000.

Maddux won 19, then 20 two years in a row. Plus he has 128 more total wins than Pedro. Pedro has 206 and Maddux has 324. Maddux to me is the better pitcher and in his prime Martinez was close to unhittable. Unfortunately, that doesn't win World Series and Maddux has one with the Braves.

The_Return_of_Manrub
Apr 20, 2007
3:32 PM
I see a similarity in Matsuzaka and Martinez, but not in type of pitcher. Both pitchers came over with similar hype and bring a similar buzz and electricity to the ballpark. Stylistically, I agree, they're completely different It's a Red Sox Nation thing: if we hear he's good and he's new to us, we're going to go bananas.

I'm all for inserting Wily Mo in the lineup, but my only questions are where do you hit him and does he play center or right. I think they would probably slide Pena into the 7 spot. J.D. Drew has already earned the 5th spot, and I'd give 6 to Lowell over Pena because Lowell is a better contact hitter. Defensively, it might be to Boston's benefit to slide Drew to center and put Pena in right. Sure, Pena can play center, but that doesn't mean he plays it well. Drew has better range and is a better all-around defensive player.

Nusl14
Apr 20, 2007
9:08 PM
Manrub:

I think we are on the same page with Dice-K and Pedro. They are both definitely great pitchers and great showmen...

Although Crisp was a star tonight, I would still love to see Pena play more often. My suggestion would be to move Drew to the 2 spot, hit Pena 5th and slide Youkilis down to 6th with Lowell hitting 7th. (i.e. Lugo, Drew, Papi, Manny, Pena, Youkilis, Lowell, Tek, Pedroia). That line-up would have more bite and wouldn't be as top heavy

edmonspk
Apr 23, 2007
12:07 PM
I like your writings. I hate when people compare any two atheletes. Seldom is there ever any resemblance.

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