Whilst in due haste of finishing up my recruiting rankings for all of the NCAA BCS College Football conferences (yes, I'll post them soon), a simple thought popped into my head. What if College Football had a draft much the same as their Professional brethren have in the NFL?
At first I started laughing. Then........... I started to really think about it.
What IF?
Imagine David Stern stepping to the podium on February 6th this year amid 300,000 fans and specatators at the MGM Grand in Vegas, and then announcing:
"With the 1st selection of the 2008 NCAA College Football draft....The University of Idaho selects: Terrelle Pryor, quarterback from Jeannette, PA."
As crazy as it sounds, it would be quite interesting and entertaining to say the least. All 120 teams stockpiled into a huge Convention Center, and all of them sitting at their proverbial 'table' waiting for their next selection. It would take AT THE VERY LEAST an entire week to accomplish. The NFL draft has 32 teams and 7 rounds. Every year, most College Football teams will dole out around 25 scholarships (draft picks).
You do the math................................OK, I'll do it for you.
The NFL draft has roughly 225 selections. A collegiate draft would have roughly 3,000. For starters, we might have to implement a 24 second 'draft' clock, just to keep 'em on their toes.
Pete Carroll and staff, along with every other coaching staff, would have to amass a body of 'possible' selections like they have never seen before. You think the NFL Combine this past week was crazy with 320+ athletes showing up to show their wares? How about 10,000 high school kids 'trying out' for their collegiate lives at a Collegiate Combine? Heck, I would have attended in my 'prime'. (Then again, did I have a 'Prime'?)
First off, we would 'departmentalize' each section based upon conference allegiance. Imagine SEC boys Urban Meyer, Steve Spurrier, Les Miles, Nick Saban, and Phil Fullmer literally sitting within arms reach of one another trying to hide their next round steal. (Urban: Hey Phil that's my donut!") All the while waiting for Idaho, Florida International, Western Kentucky and the like drafting away their golden nuggets that they so very much cherish.
How about Urban Meyer and Florida trading away Heisman Trophy winner Tim Tebow in a 27 team deal to garner 7 first round selections? Or Idaho picking up 36 future draft picks for the rights to the 1st pick in the entire draft?
Maybe we would have to bring in Howie Mandel and his "Deal or No Deal" staff to make these trades official. Better yet, bring back Monty Hall to reside over the festivities from "Let's Make a Deal" fame.
Ahhhhh........ the possibilites.
On a very much lighter note (if this blog can get any lighter), if you can name this movie quote you get #### points, an apple, and a Blogger of the Month Award.
Actor A: "You'd make a fine little helper. What's your name?"
"Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away a perfectly good white boy like that". Its from "Better off Dead"
Now this is a very interesting idea. Don't know that it would be feasible but it sure would cut out a lot of money spent on sending coaches out on the recruiting trail. Some kids would still been seen as superstars but other special kids would be stuck on Idaho campus and never getting the exposure that they would have gotten at a better school (cough cough BIG 12 TEAMs cough cough) No offense to any other conference but we all know who is the best from top to bottom. I figure if the media can claim the SEC as the best the only way to fight it is to start letting everybody know the BIG12 is better.
Are you kidding me. This has got to be the stupidest idea since people actually thinking Hillary is going to win the Democrats nomination to be President. Do you actually think a high school football who is the Nations top athelete is going to want to come and play for bottom dwelling team in the WAC, or even the Big Ten. I want to smoke what you are smoking. And even if he does go and play for the worst team in the country do you actually think he is going to give a 100 percent every game. Wow what a totally idiotic thing to say. I may be way off base with the way I am thinking. Recruting is the only way to go in college football, that is why the teams in Florida or the SEC will always be ahead of the game as far as talent and actually winning Championships. As far as the Sooner who says the Big 12 is the best conference, you guys lost to Boise State last year. From top to bottom the SEC is by far the best conference in college football, and I am from the Midwest. Just look at the last 2 National Champions. LSU and Florida. It wasn't Oklahomo and Texas cuz we all know only 2 things come from Texas Steers and Queers, and they don't look loke steers, so that narrows it down a little bit
LOL, that would be one crazy week. I doubt any CFB fans would get much sleep, and business productivity would drop by a huge number lol. It would be a huge step towards parity in CFB, but I'm not really sure the high school prospect would go for it considering they would be forced to go to a college they probably didn't want to. I'm sure there would be tons of trades and behind-the-scenes shenanigans by top coaches to get the talent they wanted and by prospects who weren't happy with the school that drafted them.
And for the SEC fan above me, I'm pretty sure this article was supposed to be somewhat humorous. Don't be so harsh! And yeah, the SEC would loe its advantage in recruiting, but so would every other big-time team. And really, since when has the SEC been totally ahead of everyone else when it comes to recruiting? This year? In case you didn't see, Miami had a huge class, and depending if they get Pryor, Ohio State will have a top 5 class.
Some SEC fans seem to have an extremely short memory. All they can remember is the past two years of SEC success and can never seem to remember that the SEC hasn't been some all-powerful super conference forever, or even for this decade.
But nevermind, I just read the first comment from the Sooner fan, I'll just leave you guys alone to yell at each other.
Ohio State don't even get me started on them bums. They are the most overrated team in the most overrated conference. For me I might of overreated to the the whole college football draft thing. To much thinking for me. As far as the SEC not being an all powerful Conference for the past decade. Between Florida, Georgia, Tenneessee, Auburn, LSU, (just to name a few of the teams)those are top recruiting schools year in and year out. Your overrated Buckeyes supposedly had the best draft last year also, and all it got them was another choke on college footballs biggest stage. I suppose you like the fact that Cleveland gave Derek Anderson the $$$. I got two words for ya Scott Mitchell. 1 good year and he is your savior.
Nostradomus
The drafts are what they are nothing more than a dog and pny show parade. They're a akin to watching the AKC Westiminster Kennel Club Dog Show. The coaches know who they'll b e drafting from the outset. Things tend to change when you've got one or two clubs willing to move up or down with regard to their positions come draft time.
See my post Rack 'em Stack 'em And Watch 'em What've We Learnt In The End ? Also refer to WWBB Do ? He Gave Up Football For A Career In Hollywood !
Let me know what you think as to the merits of the piece ?
I'll look forward to reading your comments.
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Wow dude, you need to learn some stuff about CFB before you go spouting off. OSU had a mediocre recruiting class last year, not the best. As for you not being able to think about a possible CFB draft, that is normal for an ignorant SEC homer. And you say Tennessee has been great in recruiting. Where were they this year? They didn't even crack the top 25. LSU was 6th, Georgia 4th, and Bama 1st. That isn't really anything to crow about. The poor old Big Ten had OSU at 7th and Michigan at 5th. Even Notre Dame was 2nd. As for the SEC not being so great over the past decade, why have they not won all of the national championships if they were so awesome?
And Derek Anderson hasn't signed the contract yet. He may end up as a free agent. And even if he was a one year wonder, guess what? Brady Quinn is right there to take the reins.
And you say OSU is the most overrated team of all time. Ever heard of USC? They lost to Stanford while being ranked #1. At least OSU lost to a good team (LSU) when they were #1.
One thing I have noticed about SEC homers is that they know very little of CFB outside of the SEC, which is no surprise since all they ever think about is the SEC. How about using facts to back your arguments up instead of baseless opinions? I keep saying that, but people like you continually use dumb arguments that have no backing. I would think that you would want to know more about CFB so you could try to back your arguments up and represent the SEC better, but I guess not. It seems you guys are on a mission to be as dumb as possible.
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So you are saying if the best player went to a WAC he would lay down. That has to be one of the dumbest things I have heard. he would then throw away his shot at the NFL and millions of dollars.
I agree it would never work but it would be fun. It means that every team would be on level ground and booster money would not mean as much. Small schools would improve and have a shot to win a NC b/c as a draft goes they would have better talent then they would have ever had. The big schools would have players with lesser talent and it would all come down to coaching!
TN has not been a top recruiter in a few years purple. Get the SEC cheering pom pom out of your butt. The Big 12 is just as good as the SEC.
So you are saying if the best player went to a WAC he would lay down. That has to be one of the dumbest things I have heard. he would then throw away his shot at the NFL and millions of dollars.
I agree it would never work but it would be fun. It means that every team would be on level ground and booster money would not mean as much. Small schools would improve and have a shot to win a NC b/c as a draft goes they would have better talent then they would have ever had. The big schools would have players with lesser talent and it would all come down to coaching!
TN has not been a top recruiter in a few years purple. Get the SEC cheering pom pom out of your butt. The Big 12 is just as good as the SEC.
So you are saying if the best player went to a WAC he would lay down. That has to be one of the dumbest things I have heard. he would then throw away his shot at the NFL and millions of dollars.
I agree it would never work but it would be fun. It means that every team would be on level ground and booster money would not mean as much. Small schools would improve and have a shot to win a NC b/c as a draft goes they would have better talent then they would have ever had. The big schools would have players with lesser talent and it would all come down to coaching!
TN has not been a top recruiter in a few years purple. Get the SEC cheering pom pom out of your butt. The Big 12 is just as good as the SEC.
So you are saying if the best player went to a WAC he would lay down. That has to be one of the dumbest things I have heard. he would then throw away his shot at the NFL and millions of dollars.
I agree it would never work but it would be fun. It means that every team would be on level ground and booster money would not mean as much. Small schools would improve and have a shot to win a NC b/c as a draft goes they would have better talent then they would have ever had. The big schools would have players with lesser talent and it would all come down to coaching!
TN has not been a top recruiter in a few years purple. Get the SEC cheering pom pom out of your butt. The Big 12 is just as good as the SEC.
Are you saying that Ohio State isn't an overrated team?? I never said they were the most overrated team ever, I just said that are the most overrated team in the most overrated conference. I am not a SEC homer, I am actually a fan of the ACC and Florida State and am of the belief that for the past couple of years the SEC has been the best conference in football and you really can't argue that point. Actually with sports anybody can argue with anything. Sports is all opinion my friend, the sooner you come to that realization the sooner you will realize that I am just a sports minded guy who likes to talk alot of ####.... Which brings me to your laughable Cleveland Browns. You honestly think Brady Quinn is any good. Are you kidding me!!!! You really think I am ignorant, I can guarantee that the Schwaub doesn't think so, cuz I beat him for $5,000. So say I don't know what I am talking all you want, but I have more knowledge about sports then you can ever imagine. Sorry I don't know who had the best recruting class in college football, alls that tells me is that you need to get a life, or at least get a better hobby
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Talk about getting a life or a hobby!!!! Who cares if you know who was on the 1994 Chicago Bulls!! That show is stupid. DO you sit around and read sports stats? With all that bain power you won $5,000. Wow you must have thought you won the lottery! The big 12 had four teams in the top ten last year. The SEC had five in the top 15. That is pretty equal if you ask most people. Maybe we should ask Schwaubie or Stuart (my eye doesn't know where to go and I love the smell of pro's jocks) Scott!
It doesn't matter if all 12 teams from the Big 12 were in the top 15 alls that matters is who won the whole F-ing thing and it sure wasn't Oklahomo or Texas. oh that's right two teams from the best conference in college football won it. Yeah Yeah Yeah Texas got lucky and won it 3 years ago but where have they been since nowhere, and Oklahomo lost to Boise F-ing State last year and they smoked Missouri this year. I would have liked to see the Sooners play LSU this year. It would have been a close game till the Tigers scored. Don't hate me cuz I know information from every single sport and your knowledge is limited to college football. Hey everyboby has to start somewhere!!
How anyone took this post as being anything other than a sorry attempt at humor is beyond me. (Sad and pathetic humor? Then yes, you are probably right on that aspect.)
I was merely looking for bloggers to think about such a ridiculous concept and add other 'obscurities' that would come about from such a laughable and arduous process that a Collegiate draft would bring about.
Nos,
You didn't fail at all. This was funny and was interesting to think about. These fools above us just like to argue and here themselves talk. Well except Browns fan I have had a descent conversation with him once on Lisa's jacked up live game blog once befor. He's a descent fellow to say the least.
On a different note how are things coming along in your opinion with my boy Bo Pelini over their in Lincoln? I can't wait to see your team in action for the first time this coming season. It would be something if LSU and Neb. met up in a bowl game this coming season as well. We owe you huskers a whupping. If I remember my facts right the Huskers kicked our #### the only two times we met up in a bowl game.
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Got lucky?? That is rich. Try running the table LSU!!!! There were a number of teams that could have been picked to play last year for the title. LSU was lucky to have been picked if you want to put it in those terms. Texas finished tenth and that is better in over 90% over college football. You are just a fool. Since this is about CF then why do I need to talk about baseball or water polo??? I don't go around telling people I know more then they do. Makes you look like an assclown! keep eating your cheetos and reading who played point guard for the 76 Celtics so you can win trivia!!!!
like the idea...but some players may not get into schools with more difficult entrance requirements, ie-Notre Dame, Stanford etc.....how would they get around that? In any case...this was fun reading, and quite amusing...I loved it!
PS....were u the one that had the countdown to college football? If so, how did u do that? I need help!
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This would force coaches to really find those 'diamonds in the rough'. It would take a real eye for that hidden talent to stay on top.
Also, I could see coaches discovering a kid early and, if he doesn't get a lot of media attention, I could see the coach telling him to 'lay low and we will draft you' to keep some other team from grabbing him.
There is no doubt that it would be interesting. I would like to see the man-hours that people would put into a mock draft.
You are the one who called me ignorant, I was merely letting you know that I am not ignorant when it comes to sports and I gave you a little information to back it up. Yay Texas finished 10th who gives a rats ####, the only thing that people care about is who won the National Championship in 2008 not who finished 10th. And just to #### you off more if LSU played in the weak #### Big 12 they would have easily run the table
"And just to #### you off more if LSU played in the weak #### Big 12 they would have easily run the table"
Is this FACT or simply your humble opinion purple?
At what time, or game, did LSU play a Big 12 team last year? Never. Thus you are limited to pure opinion and speculation. Would LSU have beaten Oklahoma or Texas last year? LSU couldn't beat Kentucky or Arkansas. Missouri DRUBBED Arkansas. Oklahoma DRUBBED Missouri. The Big 12 was 2-2 against your MIGHTY SEC last year in bowl games.
Or do you just see things as to how you want to see them?
Big 12 is weakass? You and the entire SEC are more than welcome to COME to OUR house and play in the Big 12. Then again.......... the SEC boys are only allowed to play at home. Go through your entire SEC schedule over the last 20 years and find AN game in which your SEC boys travelled and played a Big 12 team in their house. Then take a small sample and find how many teams from the Big 12 travelled to SEC country to play YOUR boys at their house.
Oh yeah.. that's right, you play such a tough schedule IN CONFERENCE that you shouldn't have to play away from home in your non-conference schedule.
As an SEC Conference YOU were beaten at HOME by La-Monroe, and South Florida. AT HOME. One of the few trips your conferece (actually one of the ONLY ones) when Tennesse went to California what happened? They got their arses handed to them.
Travel more, SEC. Doubtbful. Or just keep living in your own world of oblivion.
Boy you sure sound like such a smart guy. You have given no facts. There is no way to tell how LSU would have done in the Big 12. How is that answer in trivia. You are just a fool. In college football people do care where you finish. It helps in recruiting, fan support, and with preseason ranking the following year. You have no clue purplepeopleeater. You think people get offended by what a low life like you says. Sit down and shut up and just worry about your supply of cheetos. Keep studying up for your next trivia night. You can show people how smart you are by telling them who won the 1974 NBA championship, the 1943 World Series, Who holds the record for the African long jump!!!!! Trivia has nothing to do with how smart a person is. Who can go play with the Schwaub all you want. You must sit down with a big bowl of popcorn and watch his stupid show everyday. Assclown!
Nostradomus,
In 2009 Arkansas has asked Texas to push our game back to 2014 b/c they don't want to play Texas and Texas A&M in the same year. It was even a home game for them.
First off to #### #1 who posted the blog, if I remember correctly missouri beat oklahomo the first time they played them last year. Now I could be wrong but I highly doubt it, cuz I am never wrong. And not that it matters but weren't Kentucky and Arkansas ranked fairly high when they played LSU. And according you two simpletons it is all about the rankings. Ok. #### #2 can you tell me who finished in the 10th spot in 2006?? And I don't think anyone should get offended by what I say. Alls I am giving is my opinion on who I think the best conference in College Football is and for the past couple years (and I am being totally serious with this point) you can't argue that the SEC has not been the best. My bad if I think the Big 12 and any other conference is not as good and I am a fan of the ACC. Clearly the best Conference in College Basketball. I am only kidding when I say that, (but they are up there) The Big East is tough this year
LOL purplepride, just admit it, you lost. No one else believes you. You say you are very knowledgable about sports, yet you produce very little in the way of facts that the SEC is so much better than the Big 12. And being arrogant and saying that you're never wrong doesn't exactly endear yourself to anyone else.
I'm not saying that the SEC isn't good. To the contrary, it is a very conpetitive and entertaining conference, but to say that no other conference can touch it is wrong. I think that the Big 12 and SEC are at a neck-and-neck race for the best conference, but we'll never really know because the SEC teams will never play all of the Big 12 teams in one season.
And yes, I believe that Ohio State was overrated last year. They were not the clear #1 team, but who was? LSU? They had just lost to Arkansas at home. No one really jumped at the #1 spot, and the voters put Ohio State there because someone has to be #1. It wasn't OSU's fault. I do not believe, however, that OSU was overrated in 2006. I think they really were a great team, but got overconfident and din't prepare like they should have. As you should know, the game is won in the preparation, and they didn't prepare as well as Florida, and it showed.
And to be honest, it sounds that you are a closet SEC fan. You have all of the symptoms, such as delusions of grandeur, arrogance to assert that any SEC team would easily win any other conference, and the inability to produce hard facts when prompted. Come back next time, and try a little harder.
To the contrary, I am not a closet SEC fan. But I think that from top to bottom the SEC is the most competitive conference. The Big 12 has some very good teams but I think it is not as competitve from top to bottom. As far as Ohio State I suppose the fact that they didn't play a game in nearly 2 months hurt them the past two years, or maybe it was just over confidence. And maybe LSU wasn't a good choice with 2 losses to play for the National Championship. Oklahoma was playing solid football and probably should have played for the National Championship. Again that is only my opinion. But I am a firm believer of a playoff for the National Champion, in my opinion that would get us closer to the true # 1 team in the country
First off!! NOS, Where is my Blogger of the month award???
Secondly, ####prideforlife, you should go do a little research before sounding like an ####, naw I take that back, you could research for months and still sound like an ####.
You are wrong. OU has not lost to MU since 1998.
(this is me popping your smug little bubble)
To be honest with you, I only put that comment about the Big12 being better to goat an #### into trying to prove me wrong. Use some of that money you won and buy a clue you E-tard.(along the same lines as Email, only your electronically retarded)
The fact of the matter is until LSU grows some balls and plays a real team from another MAJOR conference you cannot say you're better.
I actually belive that WVU was the best team in the country last year and would have easily beaten either LSU or OSU. I think that RR threw that game so he could go to Michigan.
and to say that OSU was over-rated is a bit tricky to say. How many losses did they have? 1 not too many teams that could say that. LSU could not even say that. They had 2 losses and just because the media claimed the SEC was the toughest conference they were given the shot at the game.
I think KU would have beat OSU or LSU too. Hell MU would have done the same thing to LSU that they did to Arkansas. But these are all debatable all day long, no telling how it would have unfolded. It would be nice if the media started sucking the BIG12's #### like they have the SEC's the last few years.
My bad I thought Missouri beat Oklahomo in Oct, but I was wrong. Hey everybody is entitled to their opinions. Why does eveybody think I am a fan a the SEC. I AM A FAN OF THE ACC. But from top to bottom the SEC has the better competition. these arguements are getting old I am sick of saying that this is only my opinion. Maybe the media would do as you say if they had better competiton besides Oklahama and Texas. When is the last time Oklahaoma won the National Championship??? and besides 05 when is the last time the Big 12 won a National Championship??? I know you M.O.R.O.N.S will know that. O.K. I will answer that for ya 2000 is the last time. Now LSU won it (actually split with USC) in 2003 and in 2008 and Florida won it in 2007 so 3 National Championships for one conference in 5 years speaks for itself (as does 2 in a row for the SEC). So throw your arguements at me and say that my opinions don't have any factual basis all you want, but those are pretty solid facts. Facts mean that it did indeed happen, not what might have happened. The Big 12 has two very good teams and 10 horseshit teams. That also is a fact
purple: people think your a sec guy because of your name. did you jump on the LSU bandwagon this year? And florida and LSU winning NC say's nothing about the conference. it says that those teams were good not the conference. that is why the country thinks sec fans are stupid because the sec did not win a NC. Florida and LSU did. your conference can not win a NC. I know that is hard for you to understand. When OSU won in 02, there were no michigan fans pounding their chests about how great the big 10 is. In fact they were pissed. but when florida wins, you get georgia fans on here pounding their chests like they did something, and they swell up with pride at the fact that their rivals just won a NC because you couldn't beat them. It makes no sense at all. I rooted for Michigan in one game in my life, against florida this year, and I will never do it again. It just felt wrong to me. But you sec fans can continue to be butt buddies, I'm going to cheer for my team not my conference.
For such a smart guy and self title trivia queen who didn't even know that OU beat Mizzou twice last year. Arkansas was not ranked in the top 15 when they beat LSU. They didn't even finish in the top 25 after getting beaten up on by a Big 12 team in the Cotton Bowl.
Yeah, start letting everybody know the Big 12 is better. Running your mouth will always do the trick. Just ask that Ohio State University. How about instead just winning some championships on the field, or at least some games that mean anything? Until then, just whine amongst yourselves. Talk history or something. Your conversation might go something like this: How 'bout them Huskers? Yup, sure were good back in the 90's. Yup.
osuchump, you're right Florida and LSU winning the National Championship has absolutely nothing to do with their conference. But why then does every media facet say that the SEC has had the last 2 National Champions, (or when USC won the National Championship) came from the PAC 10 conference ect.... ya see when a team from a certain conference wins it all you give the Conference recognition. You obviously don't pay attention to conference bowl records, or conference records against another conference. That is called bragging rights. Just stating the obvious
Gator fans don't want to bring up their NC game against the Huskers. That was funny! No question the SEC is good just as the Big 12 is good and both compete in more NC games then any conference as a whole. Maybe OSU should join one or go independent.
Why to jump on coattails purple after getting your tail whipped. Mr trivia guy! What a goofball!
Oh man, do you know what it would do to the Big Ten if OSU left? The conference really would be dead if that ever happened. Though it would be interesting to see OSU play a tough SEC schedule and see how they fare (which I think would be just fine).
purple
It's funny when someone knows that they're wrong; they always try to backpedal and cover their tracks. Too bad we can go read your other comments and see all the BS you spewed out!
gogators
I know I'm in slippery territory when I say this, but how 'bout them 90s when Nebraska absolutely destroyed Florida? Maybe that's why SEC fans can never seem to remember anything that's more than 2 years old...
I don't care about bragging rights in my conference. if my team isn't winning I could care less if the conference is winning. That's my point. If your not a fan of the team that won you have no bragging rights. Florida winning the NC did not make Georgia a better team, or bama, or auburn. All those teams still did not win the NC. In all the years I've followed college sports there has never been more attention on the conferences. and personally I feel it is stupid. When USC was winning NC, everyone said that the pac-10 was weak as a whole, but because USC was a good team THEY won the NC, not the Pac-10.
And what team is your team. You say you are an ACC guy, but you have a name that says SEC, and you are talking up the SEC. So if I have this right you are just jumping on the bandwagon along with everbody else. Pick a team and stick with it. Not a conference but a team. How can you cheer for your rivals to win games, it makes no sense to the fans of every other conference in america. If Florida wins the NC that means that many more recruits are going to that school instead of your school. Doesn't that make sense to you? No. I know that SEC fans don't see it that way but the rest of the country does. I have friends that are Michigan fans and they wanted us to lose both NC games.
There ya go, hook'emhorns. That's the spirit. I remember history, too. History makes the world go around. UF was destroyed by Nebraska that year, so long ago. Then the Gators won the National Championship the next year. See, it's easy to rely on history, particularly when your team/conference/whatever is not so good lately. You can chew on those ancient laurels much like your precious cattle chew their cud. Enjoy those memories. Just don't argue against winners. Doesn't make much sense to do so. Sounds like whining.
It would be fun to see OSU in a tougher conference. They are a great team but when you really only play one hard team in conference every year it will hurt you more then help you in the end. I know a team other then U of M steps up from time to time but the big 10 just can't put three or four good teams together every year. It's a shame.
hook'em: I feel that the big 12 was a great conference this year, and could be the best next year. But they have had years where they were a one or two team conference as well. You know that it goes in cycles.
Very interesting blog.It would be crazy that's for sure.Imagine a Nat'l Champ only getting two players out of the top 300.
purple I know someone already said if but you're an ####.Not because you think the SEC was the best conference last year,which if they were it was by the slightest of margins over the Big12,but because you're just looking for an argument.
OSU started the season at #12/13 and finished #5 so if anything they were UNDERRATED.
hook'em...oh my god!
Don't tell me you got into purple's #### pills.The big 12 is a two horse race most seasons,how could you possibly make a comment like that!?Peeps forget just how close we came to seeing an all Big10 NC game a couple years ago with Wisky one loss away from perfection.I'm not even goin' any further....just ain't worth it.
Browns and Buckeyes Fan...shrewd reader, you are. That is why I said the 90's. I know Neb killed UF that Fiesta Bowl. I am also aware that Tennessee watered down the field against Florida, stopping the Gator offense and keeping Florida from going undefeated in 1929. How's that for history...and whining? Gee, years ago, even before the BCS, teams other than the big 11 and Pac 10 could go to the Rose Bowl? Maybe those midwestern and western teams grew tired of losing all the time, so they figured to just eliminate the competition. I don't know. Of course that was when our grandparents/great-grandparents were huddled against their radios (no tv's). Am I whining and going on and on about a bunch of nothing. Yea, maybe. Which is what all the arguments sound like against the SEC right now. Is the SEC the best conference in college football? Arguably yes. Arguably no. But the fact remains that FL and LSU have won the last two National Championships in pretty convincing fashion. On the field. Not by whining. So until another conference wins it all, on the field, you really don't have much of an argument at all.
No the big 12 is more then a two team horse race every year. Yes the conference race goes in cycles but Texas and OU have been at the top for over ten years and Nebraska was there up until Bill got there. Also A&M has been good and CU has been good. Now Mizzou, KU and Texas Tech are starting to show something. Other then U of M, OSU, and PSU the big ten has been weak for years. Now it looks like PSU is taking steps backward.
Gators,
B/c a team wins the NC it does not mean the conference as a whole is strong. SEC was strong last year and will be this year but was the Big East strong when Miami won their NC? Was the Pac 10 strong when SC won theirs? Can't recall when Miami played OSU if the Big 10 was strong or not. The point is b/c LSU won the NC does not mean the SEC won it.
Then why have conferences? Why have the American League and the National League in MLB? Why have the NFC and AFC? Whether you like it or not, tradition looks at conferences...winner or loser. It is just a statistic, not anything to get worked up about. Am I happy LSU won the National Championship INSTEAD of the Gators? No. But I was glad that since the Gators weren't good enough on the field (or with the voters...whoops, that's whining), that at least an SEC school won the championship. As that Ohio state university lost again, after going undefeated in their conference and against their allmighty schedule...that reflects poorly on the conference, and all the teams in the conference that were unable to win the big 11. We take solace in what we can. But losers are losers. And winners are winners. That is about all we can say. Just try winning.
For all you who are arguing what conference is superior and all the other #### Let me try to explain why we SEC people seem the way we do. Unlike most conferences i.e. the Big Ten your rivalry is so heated that you say you have respect for each other but even root against each other during bowl games. That's not respect but pure hate.
In the SEC sure when let's say LSU and Fla. play against each other we ofcourse root for our team. Thing is we have a love/hate relationship. We have true respect for each other and root for any team from the SEC in their bowl games. We are like family in the SEC. There are those in your family you do not paticularly care for or hang around and visit often but let an outsider come a mess with them and you are in the mix and on there side. It's true conference respect. May not make sense to the rest of the fans outside the SEC but makes perfect sense to us. This is just to help you understand and in no way want to get into the rediculous argument on superiority.
You nailed it. For years I have said that although I may not like the Georgia Bulldogs, I respect them (as opposed to truly hating FSU). It really is a matter of the SEC being a family. Of course, saying that, the simpletons will make many jokes about the South, about inbreeding and incest and whatever. See it all the time in the comments. Whatever, I guess.
2 things i think would HAVE to be part of the process though.
1. each team makes a list of X number of recruits they are interest in (i'm not sure what that number would be...60 maybe?) this would force them to really study who fits their system, and keep every team from just listing the same 40 or so players as everyone else.
2. each recruit makes a list of 12-15 schools they are willing to go to. they should be given some choice as to where they go to college. some of these kids still think academics, close proximity to home/family is important yet.
now, i'm not saying this should be done, but it is interesting to think about.
Well lets' see first I will start out with SEC now keep in mind I don't have the stats in front of me....since 2000 Florida has won the East outright 2 times (00&06) and shared the title in 03 with Tennessee and Georgia. Tennessee has won the East outright 2 times (01&04) and shared it in 03&07. Georgia has won the East 2 times (02&05) and shared it in 03&07. Now on the West side since 2000 Auburn has won the title outright 2 times (00&04) and shared it 3 times (01,02 $05) LSU has won the title outright once (07) and shared 4 times (01,02,03,&05) Arkansas has the title once (06) and shared it once (02)
Now we will move on to the Big 12 now keep in mind I don't have the stats in front of me Oklahoma has won the South title 6 times and Texas has won it 2 times. Looks like a two team race to me. But I will mention the Far far less superior North Division Winner since 2000 Colorado has won it 4 times(01,02,04,&05) K State has won it twice (00&03) Nebraska has won it once(06) and Missouri has won it once (07) and with the exception of 01 and 03 Oklahoma or Texas has won the Big 12, again sounds and looks like a two team conference to me. Chew on those stats and tell me that the Big 12 is as competitive as the SEC
