Laker Nation Central
by: NiqueDodson
NASCAR outgrowing it's roots.
May 25, 2008 | 7:55AM | report this

NASCAR has outgrown the good ole boy world. No old moonshiners still running cars. The day of the Dodge Hemi is a fantasy in some retro boy with a bondo'd Charger in his garage he works on now and then with his buddies while they mostly drink beer and smoke cigarettes, these days.

That's not to say the hick fans aren't still there. They are. In great numbers.  Most of them are followers of the not so great Dale Earnhardt Jr and they have their old guy favorites like Sterling Martin or one of the guys who's both still driving at the back of the pack and "in the hall of fame" at the same time. They're vicious and hostile and mean and hateful and support GW Bush in a time when 70% of America says Bush will go down in history as the worst president in U.S. history. But they're dyed in the wool sheep and they will never be anything but sheep following their outdated heros into the night.

NASCAR is glad to take their money. God knows they're glad to take it. They spend tons of money on gear, on mementos. Dale Jr. Outsells every other driver and hasn't won a race in two years. But you must understand Dale Jr is one of them. He's a hick. And like with Bush if you say anything about either of them the old school fans of both will come rushing like an online gang to attack you and villify you and tell you off and claim either are wonderful people from a great family and you're SO out of line. Never mind that Bush Sr told Bush Jr to stay out of Iraq and never mind that Jr is no Sr on the track. Sheep dogs understand that they don't have to turn the whole flock. Just turn the front two or three and the rest will follow and in moments you have a flock of sheep turning circles into themselves.

But while NASCAR is happy to take their money, NASCAR is nationwide now, the drivers come from all over the map and most are sophisticated, intelligent people outside their cars. Kyle Busch graduated from High School a year earlier than his grade/age level and with honors for instance.

NASCAR races all over the country and into Mexico now. Five years from now they will be international in both races and drivers. They are simply the most popular motorsport racing style in the world today. The racial abuse heaped on Juan Montoya will be constant by the old school race fans as the political hatred (and calling all non Bush lovers "liberals") is on this blog. But it won't stop the tide.

Another blogger (who happens to be a Dale Jr. Fan and older, but is the exception in that he's kind and decent) mentioned that NASCAR fan attendance is down this year all of a sudden and could this have anything to do with gasoline prices? He was immediately attacked by the right wing hick faction of NASCAR blog fans for having "attacked Bush"/ being the dreaded "liberal" and so on.

If it were not for the ignorance of these fans, it would have been hilarous the very next day ,when on the front of the NASCAR section for all them to see was an article stating that NASCAR blames rising gasoline prices as the sole reason why attendance is down due to the fact that more than half the ticket buyers to any given race come to that race from a distance of 200 miles or more.

Not one single blogger who attacked the blogger who was in advance of NASCAR's statement went back to his blog and apologized for attacking him.

 I wonder what is about some people. They attack,. harass and when stood up to their excuse is invariably, "well you deserved it. You stop being so sensitive". Really? And how sensitive are you when an outsiders of your little clique stands up to one of you? You rush to gang up on an outsider like a pack of wild animals. i was attacked for making jokes about how tough the old timers were. Was I saying they weren't tough? No. i was saying they were tougher than even their images. I was told I was worthless and critisized for my "adverb usage in a sentence" (that has to be the most insane criticism ever made by a hick.) and innumerable other insults, not once but 3 times before I ever responded and when I did the hick nation came running to defend the little saint hick because she is, well a saint (like you know each other in real life) and I was being "too sensitive" because she "didn't say anything. It's just a blog.". If it's just a blog why were you so offended that I responded to her violent outburst? If it's just a blog why did she feel it necessary to go off on me? (Oh and by the way Volfan? While ranting about my misspelling Earnhardt, which I didn't, you misspelled it. I didn't say anything but it does end in a t. Despite your ranting and hating I just assumed you had made a typo while foaming at the mouth and let it pass.)  Apples to apples, oranges to oranges.

GW Bush is the most hated man in America today and in my view rightfully so. And I'm a registered Republican. The Bush loving NASCAR fans are the dinosours of the NASCAR world. Bush got caught torturing prisoners, you got caught torturing bloggers. In both cases you say "well they brought it on themselves, they deserved it". Whatever. Wrong is wrong and it doesn't change just because you're a Republican or a Junior/Junior driver does it. And people WILL retaliate when abused wrongly.

Just like Kyle and Denny and the new breed of drivers, I am a new breed of fan and I think Junior reeks, stinks outloud and GW Bush is the worst President in history. Just like Kyle I don't care what you throw or say. YOU are WRONG and just like Denny I won't allow it to go without retaliating.  We're just as tough as you are and our favorite drivers are even tougher. And we're not wrong.  Bring it on.

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rampantfanatic
May 25, 2008
9:12 AM
Nique
I think it's become more complex than that as NASCAR has now become a financial behemoth.
It has left its most ardent fans behind in the pursuit of the almighty dollar . First and foremost it's a business and a sport secondly to the France family . As they're now billionaires a couple of times over.
And whilst there are many who'll question the direction that the sport is going in. It's no different than what David Stern has done with the NBA since he took over the helsmanship of the organization.



billfrance.jr

Bill France Jr the deceased partriarch who presided over the rise of NASCAR . Seen here alongside Dale Sr & Dale Jr



david.stern

Alegend in his own mind the autocratic David Stern !


They've done more wheelin' and dealin' than the Mafia and the Colombian drug cartels combined !


rampant' aka tophatal ........

JOKERSWILD
May 25, 2008
9:12 AM
GO Jr.

Cboy4evr
May 25, 2008
9:16 AM
PMS is a ####!!!...or do little boys have it???

Last edited by Cboy4evr on May 25th at 9:17 AM.

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
9:22 AM
HAHAHA get sensitive. GO KYLE!!! GO DENNY!!! GO CARL !!! GO DANICA!!!

GW BUSH IS A WAR CRIMINAL AND DALE EARNHARDT JR IS A LOSER HICK!!!

rampantfanatic
May 25, 2008
9:24 AM
Nique
My girlfriend is considerably younger than I by some eighteen years. That wasn't my choice by the way. As she was the one who pursued the relationsip. Can you please explain to me what it is that has got all these females so enthralled by the actor Shia la Boeuf ?


laboeuf
La Boeuf seen here alongside Harrison Ford in the new Indiana Jones movie.

What's the fascination with le Boeuf please tell me ? Great actor I grant you but as a physical specimen there's something missing.


rampant' aka tophatal ............

JOKERSWILD
May 25, 2008
9:29 AM
Nique how is JR. a loser hick ?
hes third in the points and has earned over a million this year I bet theres alot of other drivers that would love to be in that spot.
I see you picked the hott driver(k.Busch) when you all of the sudden became a Nascar fan was that just so that you could bash JR. because your driver is having a better year...or just because you only like whoever is winning at the time makes me wonder how you feel about all the other drivers that are out there week in and week out giving it all they got ok maybe the exception being.K.Petty I bet you really think hes a loser hick he hasnt won a race since 1995

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
9:36 AM
Whatever Joker. Go write another blog about how I'm a guy using a girls name just to get hits. never mind that I've posted photo after photo. Write yet another blog for attention.

Write another blog about how people misspost in the NFL category so they can be seen. NO KIDDING. Since this blog and most my blogs won't show up in NASCAR or Other or College football or College basketball or much of anywhere except here and NBA, why don't you write another gossip blog about people like me? Then why don't you crybaby about someone "stealing your title" when you stole someone else's and made it similar. You're just jealous because mine was funnier.

Go ahead. lie some more on me. Kyle Busch will still be the best driver in the Sprint Cup. Junior will still be a hick and Danica will still be faster than you will ever be crybaby

Last edited by NiqueDodson on May 25th at 9:37 AM.

Cboy4evr
May 25, 2008
9:41 AM
Shim's just a child..Cut her/him some slack..Might offend and run to the dark basement and cry!!! Poor little thing....

JOKERSWILD
May 25, 2008
9:42 AM
You still didnt answer why you think Jr is a loser hick I mean you are the expert and to say that about someone is a loser I just want to know why

And calling me a Crybaby isnt that the pot calling the kettle black?

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
9:42 AM
tophatal I have no idea why girls are hot for this guy. I'm not and I don't know anyone that is. It might just be one of those things. He's in a hit movie and he's getting lots of attention. I never thought that New York Actor, the one who was in the titanic is cute but lots do. Different taste for some people I guess.

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
9:44 AM
What makes you an expert Joker? Because you blogged 100 blogs? Because you suck up to a certain person so you can talk nasty to people like me? Stop being so sensitive. If you dish it out to me then fair is fair. you're getting it back. I'm sick to death of haters like YOU dealing #### and then telling me I can't have my say. You're one of the biggest creeps on this site.

JOKERSWILD
May 25, 2008
9:47 AM
you know it seems to me your the only one doing any name calling here and you still didnt answer why JR is a loser hick im just debating your the one taking it personal

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
9:51 AM
I'm not taking it personal. I'm just treating you like you've treated me every single time you've posted on my blog or the two times you wrote hate blogs about me. I treat people the way I am treated. Whatever. What are you doing today to remember the over 3,500 kids GW Bush has sent to their death so his buddies could get 4.00 a gallon for gas?

Last edited by NiqueDodson on May 25th at 9:52 AM.

JOKERSWILD
May 25, 2008
9:59 AM
If you had read the blogs and the comments you might see I tryed several times to be your friend you chose not to-- so not my fault I tryed-and everytime youve accused me of stealing someones post title or blog I asked you to prove it and you couldnt all I get from you is "whatever" and your still avoing the question why is Jr. a loser hick?

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
10:02 AM
Because I'm not stopping treating you like you've treated me since the day i came on this blog until you write a blog apologizing to ME PERSONALLY for attacking me, claiming I'm not female, for claiming I stole your title. Nobody owns a title and my title was a parody of two other titles and so far beyond either of your's that for you to write an entire blog of hate about it is just unbelievably immature. You can either write the blog sincerely, or write another hate blog, or stay off my blog or get it right back in your face. The choice is entirely YOURS

JOKERSWILD
May 25, 2008
10:06 AM
That blog had nothing to do with you as I stated before if you thought that thats on you There was a blogger on here before you that was photoshoping her pics thats who it was about so believe it or not its not all about you..so Im not appologizing for something I didnt do..

Last edited by JOKERSWILD on May 25th at 10:07 AM.

JOKERSWILD
May 25, 2008
10:09 AM
and the only reason im on this post is because you bashed my driver I just wanted to know why and you still havent answerd me your the one who turned it into something else..

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
10:11 AM
That's a LIE. I came on this blog and immediately shot to the top of the most read. All I did was write about the NBA. You wrote your blog immediately about Men pretending to be a woman to get hits and Lisa wrote immediately that I was some other blogger who was a man who used to be here. Amazing coincidence isn't it? The two people who were dominating the top of the board wake up every day to find Nique up there. Never mind it was just temporary because I was new and people were curious. Since you and her started your #### my blog doesn't show up on the most recent views OR in the most hits even when it deserves to and you two are right back in your little "star roles". Just a coincidence huh? Right. WHATEVER. You people never apologize for ANYTHING you say on this blog and you attack constantly and when it get dished back to you, you went and wrote another hate blog. how old are you? TEN?

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
10:15 AM
I didn't turn it into anything except what it always was. Serving notice to you and your kind that I will not be treated like dirt by you and not dish it back and I will never answer you civily until you learn to speak to me civily. AND APOLOGIZE. So since you won't you might as well stay off my blog crybaby.

Last edited by NiqueDodson on May 25th at 10:17 AM.

JOKERSWILD
May 25, 2008
10:19 AM
Nique I have a post called oh no not photoshop it was posted a while back theres a picture of the woman im talkind about on there with the picture she photoshoped if you took it as it was about you I dont know what to tell you before you got on my how to get blog comments I didnt even know who you where I have always been nice to new bloggers unless they attack me first I have a right to defend myself dont I and you can ask I help new bloggers all the time with adding music to their posts and pictures to them im not in here just to bash people I dont believe in that

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
10:22 AM
I have been spammed, i have been called a cross dresser, a transsexual, a liar, a #### and worse because of you and Lisa. I went from having a great time to daily harassment and even a lengthy hate blog about me "stealing your title" which was clearly a parody and I explained by saying i thought you were pretty funny and so was the other blogger so I took my title into the realm of the total absurd and what did you do? You wrote an entire hate blog on me about it.

Help new bloggers? With people like you i don't know that I could stand anymore help than I got from you two.

Last edited by NiqueDodson on May 25th at 10:23 AM.

Cboy4evr
May 25, 2008
10:43 AM
Poor Nigue!!! He's gonna get mad!! Watch out world!!!

Last edited by Cboy4evr on May 25th at 11:35 AM.

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
10:46 AM
U know what CBoy you tried to sneak that racial insult in. Maybe you did maybe you didn't but you have been reported and we'll see what Fox thinks. And I'm not black either so you keep it up and I'll make a point of keeping track of your little racial insults and reporting every one of them.

You're an embarassment to every decent Cowboy fan alive. How you can use that term in this day and age is unbelievable. You just made my delete list except for the ones I report CREEP.

Last edited by NiqueDodson on May 25th at 11:28 AM.

JOKERSWILD
May 25, 2008
11:55 AM
Nique here is the comment I posted on my blog take it for what its worth....

JOKERSWILD
May 12, 2008
3:46 PM Ok I have waited to see how this would turn out and I can see some very valid points here and I am willing to bury the hatchet and hold no ill will toward anyone envolved ..But this will be the last time I offer my hand of freindship I think there needs to be some apoligies and the people who owe them know who they are I appologize for my part and want to move on with this foolishness... as funn as this was to write it in my oppinion needed to be written.. sometimes a little humor mixed with some truth can do better than doing nothing at all stewing on hard feelings and hatred can onlty eat a person from the inside out...so again this will be my last attempt at frienship...
Thank you all for you comments some were very funny and some right to the point.......JW

klvalus
May 25, 2008
12:27 PM
Nique- Not sure why your riling everything back up again when it seemed peace had been established. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt but your not going to make any friends with this post.

Also, calling fans and Jr a "hick" is jsut as bad as people who call Kurt 'Dem der ears" and any other personal attack. That is my pet peeve and we need to treat the drivers and each other with more respect. I know you will probably say you were disrespected when you first came on the boards but try leading by example.

Oh, and I am a huge Dale Jr fan and no one would ever get away with calling me a "hick"...a PhD educated woman from San Francisco!

Finally, Jr isnt that much of a hick, he was open minded enough to take his crew to see Michael Moore's movie Fahrenheit 9/11 a few years back and has always been against the rebel flag waving crowd. Excerpt from Mike Wallaces' 60 Minutes Interview below:

Last edited by klvalus on May 25th at 12:30 PM.

klvalus
May 25, 2008
12:27 PM
Are NASCAR fans Republicans? “Yeah,” he says. Are they white? “Majority. It’s changing more and more,” says Earnhardt Jr. “But you still go to the races and you still see the rebel flags in the infield. You still see, you know, the aggressive Southeast a little bit at the racetrack. ...You know, the guy that still flies his rebel flag pretty proudly.”

But Earnhardt Jr. says he’s not like that: “It never really was me.”

Politically, Junior does side with a voting block known as NASCAR dads. He’s a Republican and he supports George W. Bush. Yet, he took his crew to see Michael Moore’s movie, “Fahrenheit 9/11.” Why?

“I like hearing both sides of the argument. I thought the movie was well done. But my dad was a Republican, and I'm a Republican, and so [it’s] not that I came out of there going, ‘I ain't voting for Bush again,’” says Earnhardt Jr. “That didn't happen, and I didn't expect that to happen. I just wanted to go and enjoy the movie. Because I knew Michael Moore would try to push a few buttons. And I just wanted to see how hard he mashed them.”
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Tsfanpc
May 25, 2008
1:16 PM
Nique, being a Tarheel state native myself, I must say I took offense to you calling Jr. a hick. And before you jump, let me just state I AM NOT a JR. Fan. Nor am I part of the Jr. Nation.

I am trying to give you the benefit of being a new blogger and you feel you have been done wrong.

But you need to easy up girl. Are you are not ever going to make friends here.

If you have don't like a certain driver or his fans, that is fine. Because, personally I agree that the Jr. fans are extreme. But you know what, I am a Tony Stewart fan and I am sure that the fans of other drivers feel like the fans of Smoke are extreme too at times.

And that is fine. Because that is what is so unique about NASCAR fans. We all think the other fan is more extreme. But in reality, we are all just as extreme about our driver just in different ways.

Oh and by the way, you don't have to worry about people "attacking" Gunny. The regular bloggers here respect him. They don't always agree with him, but then again not all of us agree on everything that we all blog about.

Have a nice Memorial Day. And girl Breathe.

Last edited by Tsfanpc on May 25th at 1:18 PM.

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
2:25 PM
"Try leading by example"

Volfan - "This is the worst non blog I have EVER written. Get a GED, I hope you don't have a drivers lisence because you know nothing about driving. This is the worst use of adverb usage without decent sentence structure I have ever seen."

Lisa H and Jokerswile - " Nique is a man just pretending to be a woman so he can get a lot of hits"

BillyHoyle & Lakersfan19- Over 1,000 nique is dusty and a man related posts in less than a month. References to me being a homosxual, cross dresser, alling me a liar.

Hoosier spams my blog with hate for daring to "stand up to Volfan" over her attack on me when my "STANDING UP" was an attempt to explain what my blog was even about. Then Hoosier writes his own blog in which he calls me names that imply I am a lowlife #### and those who are decent to me are wimps. All the while he is egged on by Jokersfan.

Jokerfan writes blogs about me because I dared to combine one of his titles and another's title into a totally blatant attempt at humor. Nowhere in my blog was he or any other blogger mentioned. once again I stay on the subject this blog which is the sport and once again I am harassed and called names for doing what? BLOGGING ON SUBJECT.

Lead by example? only after someone has the nerve to tell their blog "honies" that what THEY are doing is WRONG.

But, oh wait, I'm a hateful person for calling dale jr a hick. I forgot. You believe in showing everyone mutual respect. How convenient that you missed a months worth of people NOT doing exactly what you claim you're all for.

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
2:28 PM
I'm not a hateful person. I'm a nice person who treats people like they treat me but after a while I will extend that policy to those who treat me badly. So you go right ahead and make excuses for Bush and for your blog friends who make my every post miserable. If I can't blog nice then I blog exactly the way they blog on me. Except I don't go to you people's blog to start it up.

Now you get all sensitive about Dale Jr being a hick. HE IS A HICK.

Last edited by NiqueDodson on May 25th at 2:40 PM.

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
2:31 PM
And GW Bush is still the worst president in US history and those kids are still lying their graves and missing those limbs and the price of oil and the deficit is still climbing.

You have a nice memorial day. I went to the cememtery and helped put flags on every grave and saw how many people's lives Bush is responsible for in Tulsa Oklahoma alone. Go ahead, make excuses for him. And worry about Junior being called a hick.

Last edited by NiqueDodson on May 25th at 2:38 PM.

CurlyMo
May 25, 2008
6:58 PM
The offer is still open to go head to head on any subject that you'd like Nique. When you go at it you sure as heck go at it!

p.s. I HAD to add you to my favorite bloggers. I'm sure that you will 'ignore me' from now on. But as I said previously, as long as they are reading you...

I am certainly reading you.

Oh yeah, NASCAR has done a masterful job with it's cross-marketing and building it's brand name. The old school NASCAR fans are probably upset with the 'diversity' of their new fans, but they should be thankful.

When I took over the Gates County Index Sports section two years ago, I initiated a NASCAR section because I wanted to draw more fans to the sports page and increase my circulation. By doing so I was forced to increase my own knowledge of the sport and found out that NASCAR was much more than a bunch of cars driving around in circles.

The science behind the sport was truly astounding and I can now actually sit down and watch a race and understand the strategy. Great sport.

The same thing happened to me with soccer. I was living in London in 1992 when the Olympics were taking place and getting to watch the gold medal soccer match between Canada and Russia with the media approaching the event with the same knowledge and vigor which our media covers the NFL made me a much more informed viewer and eventually a fan of the sport.

NiqueDodson
May 25, 2008
8:09 PM
It is a great sport except for the hillbilly faction most of whom blog here.

Drivers today are from everywhere. Toyota engines are dominating as I said they would. The Japanese don't do anything that costs billions without doing it right.

NASCAR may be rooted in the south but it doesn't belong to the south anymore. Their fan base is throughout the country and all races and economic levels and it's HUGE money and it's only going to continue to evolve.

rampantfanatic
May 26, 2008
12:19 PM
People would be very surprised as to the demographics of the sport. It covers a wide range of the public. And now with the hierarchy identifying the Hispanic market as its next target.

I think we can count out the alleged belief that the sport is somewhat still ingrained with just Republicans and people whose origins are from the South. That's now become the furthest thing from the truth. The sport has been on the rise in all parts of the country. It's probably now reached stauration point in some parts and is now at its peak nationwide. So Helton and France'll have to look elsewhere in terms of new fans and ways to add to their already burgeoning coffers.


rampant' aka tophatal ........

Tsfanpc
May 26, 2008
3:50 PM
Nique if you are referring to me about missing a month's worth of people being disrespectful, that is possible. Because you see I am dealing with some family issues. So it is possible I have not read everything on here. Even before I didn't read every word.

And let me say I do not think you are a hateful person. I just think you need to lighten up. You are just letting things get to you way too much.

When people make comments about things you say, you can't take it personal. If you do, you are only going to make yourself uptight.

I know what I am saying. I use to get uptight everytime someone disagreed with me. But I soon realized that this is just a forum for people to express their opinions. We do not all agree, and we all have our own opinion.

You can't get upset everytime someone disagrees with you. Sometimes you just have to say Okay, we agree to disagree. And leave it.

And Jr. is not a hick. I am not a hick. And I am not sensitive to Jr. being called a hick. I just don't like people being called names.

Last edited by Tsfanpc on May 26th at 3:57 PM.

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