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Larry Johnson seems the closest to returning to work among the league's three major holdouts. Michael Strahan is still considering retirement from the Giants, although some suspect he may report once the team leaves its Albany training camp. And, basically, there is absolutely nothing new with No. 1 pick JaMarcus Russell and the Raiders. With this long of a holdout, Russell may be looking at a red-shirt season at this point.

Johnson and the Chiefs have been making progress on a long-term contract that could include guarantees ranging between $15 and $19 million. Even if Johnson actually gets the higher number, he will still fall short of what LaDainian Tomlinson received ($21 million guaranteed and $60 million over eight years) received from the Chargers prior to the 2004 season.

But, then, LJ isn't as good as LT and many clubs don't view the running back position to be as valuable as quarterback, defensive end and cornerback. For example. the Colts will pay Dwight Freeney $30 million in guaranteed money between now and the 2008 season.

Kansas City holds the leverage edge against Johnson because he still has one season remaining on his contract and the club likes what it has seen from Michael Bennett and Louisville rookie Kolby Smith. And if Priest Holmes's dream of returning to the field becomes a reality, KC wouldn't be in terrible predicament without Johnson. I mean, the Chiefs have greater concerns regarding a winning and losing than simply who is at running back.

Umpire in backfield

This past weekend was the first time that league officials experimented with shifting the umpire from the defensive side, usually at the depth of a linebacker, to the offensive backfield. For any long-time football fan, seeing no official in the middle of the defensive action probably looked pretty weird.

The league will also try this experiment during the third weekend of preseason games with the umpire on one side and the referee on the other in the offensive backfield. The idea is to see if the umpire can still call holding penalties while also removing him from the center of the play where occasionally he had players knocking him over.

"I'm not sure I like it," Rams Coach Scott Linehan told me after Friday night's game in Minneapolis against the Vikings. "It looks like (the umpire) could get in the way of the quarterback when he's scrambling in the pocket."

Having the umpire in the offensive backfield may have also cost the Rams a third-quarter touchdown when rookie receiver Derek Stanley caught a deflected pass. Ryan Fitzpatrick's pass hit a downed Minnesota defender on the arm and then the ball bounced up to Stanley. The pass was rule incomplete on the field and the play whistled dead. However, referee Ed Hochuli properly reversed the call and gave Stanley a 19-yard reception. But had umpire Chad Brown been in his proper place he may seen the catch and never blown the play dead, leading to a 54-yard touchdown.

No love lost

Linebacker Donnie Edwards, who couldn't work out a contract with the Chargers, is back with the Kansas City Chiefs, where he became one of the game's best tacklers and playmakers.

Edwards is still fuming, though, about San Diego General Manager A.J. Smith.

"Football is a great team game, but this guy thought it was all about him," Edwards said. "I mean, doesn't he think Marty (Schottenheimer) was trying to win? I always thought that we were all in this together, trying to win a championship. The players, the coaches, the personnel people, everybody on a team. But not in San Diego. It's all about how (Smith) sees it. No one else seems to matter.

Edwards used a couple other words when referring to Smith, but we really can't use those references.

Green homesick

Even before he was booed by the hometown fans on Saturday, new Miami quarterback Trent Green was telling a few Kansas City teammates that he was missing his former surroundings. Imagine that! Does anybody really think that KC is a better place (it is a much better football town) than Miami and South Beach, one of the hippest locations on earth? Of course, the Chiefs probably are a much better football organization than Miami these days.

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canvil
Aug 12, 2007
3:21 PM
Let Larry Johnson hold out, maybe now people will realize that runnibg backs are a dime a dozen. See Frank Gore this year, new fat contract and come back in January and see what he does. It makes no sense to pay a RB huge money, it's all O-Line (See Denver for example)

gunmac
Aug 12, 2007
5:45 PM
Copy that, Canvil. But my bigger beef with all of these guys that hold out is that they are under contract already. He held out when he came out of Penn State for more money than I think 5 guys that got drafted before him.
What do expect. He comes from a "No Integrity School" with a "No Integrity Coach", Penn State and Joe Paterno.
If I was KC I would trade him to the team with the worst offensive line in football for a used kickoff tee and laugh 3 weeks later when he takes a nasty pop and blows an ACL.

handyfan
Aug 12, 2007
5:52 PM
As someone who has spent a lot of time in both KC & Miami; let me say that the Czar speaks likes the road warrior that he is. Miami is a great place to visit, but for someone Trent Green's age KC is a much better place to settle down and raise a family. Oh yeah, the football environment is better too. Trent made a big mistake in moving to South Beach. It will be the end of him.

rwemersonrw
Aug 12, 2007
7:12 PM
canvil
Oh! I guess that means LT is not worth the money he makes.

Last edited by rwemersonrw on August 12th at 7:13 PM.

Rangerpride
Aug 12, 2007
7:32 PM
Johnson is a great running back, and after what I saw from the Chiefs offense on saturday, they need all the help they can get. The browns' sputtering offense out performed theirs in every aspect of the game. Ya our D may be better than the Chiefs, but its sad when an offense which was ranked 29th, I think, last year out performs any teams offense (especially when we are trying to learn a brand new system). Maybe the Chiefs should pay LJ because he is one of the best RBs in the league. Gore wont play like he did last year, so that leaves the NFLs top RBs to be LT, Alexander, LJ, and possibly McGahee(unfortunately for my Browns, although he is a long shot for top back material).

canvil
Aug 12, 2007
8:00 PM
No larry johnson is not worth the money he makes, he could be replaced by 20 other guys with a similar result. I'm 35 and I've saw one true "great" Barry Sanders (Don't start with emmit my 9 year old daughter could gain 1000 behind that line) Gunmac, Amen to paterno being scum. Let's remember Joe and Cooper changed their votes the last week because they said it would hurt recruiting costing Michigan the whole title they deserved that year.

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Aug 12, 2007
8:38 PM
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darkknight76
Aug 12, 2007
8:39 PM
Tomlinson isn't worth the money either! and shame on the Chargers for paying him that. Canvil is right on, Emmit overrated, I'm a Bears fan and Barry was the "Real Deal!" A runningback doesn't win you Championships or Tomlinson would already have a couple. Defense wins you Championships just look at Tampa Bay and Baltimore! Larry isn't worth more than Cedric Benson, they both have had about the same amount of injury time and Benson is younger with more years ahead of him. Besides the smart teams are following Denver's example and runningback by committee. Soon every team will be that way and the STAR RB will be the thing of the past!Tomlinson will get hurt this year because he refused to be on Madden and he'll feel the curse because of it then look at THAT HUGE CONTRACT WASTED, just like Ricky Williams!

Last edited by darkknight76 on August 12th at 8:41 PM.

JoeyStrongarm
Aug 12, 2007
11:00 PM
Raiders fan here just not understanding why a college level player can demnad the kind of money Russell is expected to get. As much as I want him to be in Silver and Black I'm also just as sick of wasting the #1 pick in the country on a guy who won't play one snap until mid season at best. It's starting to make me wonder if he could be traded before he shows up in Oakland.

romo81
Aug 12, 2007
11:05 PM
darknight. what the heck are you talking about. Defense wins championships? you gave 2 good examples, but come on, what about the rest. you think Indy won last year because of defense? How about the Pats, Rams, Cowboys......I could keep going. There are exceptions to the rules, but offense and running backs win championships. Pay the guy his money, or someone else will!

autodidact
Aug 12, 2007
11:49 PM
Darkknight, as a Bears fan you of all people should recognize that defense can only get you so far. It does not win championships. And it doesn't sell tickets and merchandise etc. like a star offensive player. I don't think LJ deserves what he wants to be paid, but they better do whatever they can to keep him. He's all they have.

tml19
Aug 13, 2007
1:50 AM
Darkknight, I agree, and disagree. Defense can win championships (4 rings for the Steelers in the 70's proves that). But great offense can too. As for romo81 and autodidact's comments, lets be real here, If the Bears were as healthy in the Superbowl as the Colts, with Tommie Harris(A.K.A. the best 4-3 DT in the game) and Mike Brown at full strength, it would have been a whole different game. The Colts would have got Shut the **** down!

ronniemac03
Aug 13, 2007
3:23 AM
IMO, Indy would have won whether Harris or Brown were there or not. The Bears didn't have enough offense to keep up, and Peyton was picking that vaunted D apart, taking whatever they gave him. LJ deserves the upfront cash he's seeking, because off top, he IS their offense. KC's tryin to break in Croyle(who I've seen live in college, he'll be fine once he gets settled.), and they need LJ to take the pressure off. Holmes is done, and if Michael Bennett was the answer, he'd still be starting in Minnesota. Back to the Bears, who are screwed this year because they let Thomas Jones walk, and now all they have is Kris "Mr. Softee" Benson, who can't carry the load by himself.

kappadoc01
Aug 13, 2007
5:48 AM
You mean Kris Benson, the PITCHER? Try Cedric Benson!! Give me a break....

dolphin1269
Aug 13, 2007
6:41 AM
Who cares i just want to give Trent Green back to K.C.!!!!

tallmansvt
Aug 13, 2007
6:47 AM
LT is one of the best backs this sport has ever seen and I can't see how anyone could dispute that. The guy wins games single-handedly so yes without a doubt the guy eanrs every dime he makes. That guy can carry a team to the super bowl. LJ deserves jack and if he even thinks for a split-second that he deserves to be paid anywhere near the ballpark LT gets- he is out of his f'n mind!!!! Not to mention he's a greedy slob. He only has 1 f'n year then he can go free agent and get the big money he BELIEVES he's worth, so why make a stink now??? OH WOW...he put it together for a season and half- big freakin deal. He doesn't deserve a penny more. I hope this guy gets blackballed now and clubs will stay away from him. Russell is going a bit too far. OK he's the #1 pick and everything but from what I hear the offers have been fair. As far as Strahan goes, just keep things as they are/ The GMen are making a nice sum of money back in fines from a player in rapid decline. If he wants to retire- GREAT! Dont let the door hit you in the ####....If he wants to play- OK, but he should be limited to 3rd down pass rushing situations only so he's most effective. He's another me-first player that overvalues his worth. I love Strahan for what he did for the Giants and he deserves to go out with dignity and the respect he deserves, but he can't stick-up the team in the process.

BLU86KC
Aug 13, 2007
7:07 AM
If you had a chance to watch the KC Chiefs saturday night any #### would gladly pay Larry Johnson what he's asking for. He' worth it!

TazDevil
Aug 13, 2007
7:54 AM
None of the big money players are worth the money they make. That is the sad legacy of free agency as it is today.

But putting that rant aside, LT is definitely worth more than LJ. LT is more multi-dimensional with his game and skills than LJ.

The Chiefs can do fine with Priest Holmes, Michael Bennett, or some other back. What they need are wideouts, and defense.

Still, LJ will probably be back with the Chiefs soon.

Michael Strahan, if he returns, is doing so too late. He should just retire.

As to JaMarcus Russell, I hate holdouts, especially by rookies, who have never played a down in the NFL. Furthermore he is overrated and Brady Quinn will prove to be a better NFL QB.

My thinking is JaMarcus doesn't want to play on that lousy Raiders offense, and is hoping for a trade.

mdm_1971
Aug 13, 2007
7:59 AM
all you jumping on Gore not going to perform well this year????? why not? lets see lead nfc in rushing last year......my bet is he will perform as a top 5 back like he is.... now another thing why would anybody say that Penn state and Joe Pa have no integrity...... Joe Pa is one of the most respected coaches in college football history because he makes his players get an education ....... so soundsl ike there is just some haters up in here...... I am a cowboys fan so no ties to Gore other then i saw what he did last year and look at rookie year what he did in limited action...... i will say he will get his 1500 + yards and 10+ tds and 50+ catches sounds pretty solid to me

SDBOY
Aug 13, 2007
8:34 AM
Canvil & darkknight, you 2 are a bunch of idiots. You post have no merit. HOw can you say running backs are not important. They are the backbone of any offense. They only don't matter when you team doesn't have one. How can you say that Emmit Smith was not great. He is the all time rush leader. Who cares how good his line was. It takes a champion to make others champions. Saying that Emmit was weak is crazy. As far as LT. He has broken almost every possible record in his position and some. He will definilty break the All time rush record and all the remaining records he hasn't broken. He is ranked in the top 3 most imoportant players in the NFL. Not worth the money. Shame on the chargers for paying him that much money. Shame on you for not knowing what the hell your talking about.

rwemersonrw
Aug 13, 2007
9:32 AM
canvil
You spoke of Larry Johnson, but you cannot exclude Tomlinson from that group. He is a running back does that mean he does not deserve to get paid?
O line is important, but do not forget Barry Sanders, for he had 1000 yards season all the time and he played for one of the worst O lines ever.

beardown07
Aug 13, 2007
9:33 AM
SDBOY, where's all of the championships to go with all of those impressive stats? Anyone who thinks Norv Turner is an improvement over Marty, is rubbing Merrimans HGH cream on their brain. And guess what, as long as Norv Turner's your coach, they'll continue to pile up impressive stats, but find a way to blow it in the playoffs. 14-2, all that, and then they lose their heads against NE in the playoffs. And you think that their collective "cool" will be better with Norv? Here, I had applauded San Diego's front office for their draft moves in recent years, and then they go and fire Marty, so that they can hire Norv-####-Turner! J esus. All the talent in the world, and they're going to allow Norv to p iss it away for them.

beardown07
Aug 13, 2007
9:36 AM
ralph waldo emerson, or what ever your name is, Barry is an exception every rule.

beardown07
Aug 13, 2007
9:53 AM
Barry is by far the best back to have played the game. This is what seals the deal for me, almost every year that he led the league in rushing, he also led the league in yards lost per carry. Uh, that's crazy! That's like being the heavy-weight champion, and having a fifteen inch reach.

AreYouHighOnSomething
Aug 13, 2007
10:00 AM
Darknight76, Are you an ####? Since when does defense win you championships? If that was the case the bears would have the ring! If you have an ok d with an awesome O like the colts its pretty obvious what can happen. LT deserves the money...#### yards can open the passing game like no ones buisness...hb is a very important almost vital position for any winning team. colts ranked 28th against the run...and still won a superbowl

AreYouHighOnSomething
Aug 13, 2007
10:05 AM
TML your an #### lmao bears could have had walter payton and lost to the colts. P. Manning is surgical and there is no stoping him. many have tryed many more have failed. Im a bills fan myself but i respect manning gunslinging ability and also his wr that seem to get open at will

MaDCow
Aug 13, 2007
10:14 AM
Rwemersonrw et al,

There are very very few examples of RB's performing at the Barry Sanders level without a very good to great O-line - that is why he is an enigma, an anomaly, and possibly the best ever. With out saying all, MOST of the other great RB's never had the pain of needing to prove themselves with horrible lines. Barry had no line and still did phenomenal.

Emit, had the best line in history, LT has a very good line now; Terrell Davis had a great line. There is a reason why they can plug almost anyone into the Denver system and create an NFL top 10 rusher - THE LINE.

Most of the others had to prove they could rush really well with some of the best O-lines – still remarkable mind ya. But not Barry-like.

Shall I say it – what if Barry Sanders had the Dallas line that Emit had…or even if he ran for Denver…….#### me off to think of it. LoL.

MaDCow
Aug 13, 2007
10:21 AM
I think most people say that D-fence wins championships. There are exceptions to every rule though. Bear had the best D against the Best Offense (Colts). Unfortunately, Da Bears had Goomer Pile for a QB and as good as their D was - Manning was better.

The Pats won all of their rings via Defense and a serviceable offense.

Do not be so simplistic in your thinking. “D wins championships – therefore Bears should had won?!” “Bears did not win - therefore D doesn’t win championships” HeHE

What are you…a paint sniffer?

millertime3852
Aug 13, 2007
10:46 AM
Larry Johnson is a stud no doubt. He's not trying to get more money simply because he's greedy. He makes as much money as half of the back-up rb's in the league, yet since he's been the starter, his number are more in line of the elite backs in the league. LJ is worked and used harder than any back in the NFL. A running back has an 8 yr career typically, and then the punishment starts taking it's toll. So Larry feels like this, in my opinion: He's performing like one of the top rb's in the league, but being paid like a back up. He knows that he only has 3 yrs or so to make his money, then he's going to start feeling the effects of his 450 plus carries a year. So he has to act now. Personally, in my job, if I'm doing more than most of the people I work with, yet they get paid more...I'd be ticked. And I'd either try to get a raise, or I'd start looking for work elsewhere. Especially if I knew that I've been working my backside off for my entire life for an 8 yr career, and I'm more than halfway through it and I'm still getting less money than half of the rookies in the league.

beardown07
Aug 13, 2007
10:53 AM
Jason, (chuckle) I quote "since when does defense win championships"? Are you r etarded? Have you watched football in the last 20 years? I'm pretty sure the reason the Colts even made it to the Superbowl, was due to the resurgence of their defense. I'm also pretty sure, that the play of the game in the Superbowl was an interception return for a TD. You're a freaking ####. Maybe you should turn your attention to Arena Football, I think it suits you better.

dan
Aug 13, 2007
11:15 AM
Millertime hit the nail on the head. LJ is destroying his body carrying the ball as much as he does. If he doesn't make his money now, he'll be broken down before he ever has another chance to cash in.

KDXR
Aug 13, 2007
11:16 AM
Wow! The ignorance in this place is killing me. Lets dispell a few myths. The first is that Emmitt ran behind the best line in history for his entire career. That is true for the first 5 years. Since I guess you guys like to revise history let me remind you that by the time Emmitt departed for the Cardinals the line was one of the worst in the league, and it had been that way for several years. They line was in serious decline since 1996 yet Emmitt continued to pile up the 1000 plus yard seasons. And also look what he did in Arizona who did have the most pathetic line in the league when he got there. Emmitt is Champion and the fact of the matter is that he is the all time leading rusher. Barry isn't becuase he did not stay in the league. But even if Barry would have he still is not gauranteed to be the all time leading rusher. If you don't beleive me just refer to the most recent challenger.... Curtis Martin. Now when you consider that, what Emmitt accomplished is amazing and it does require a champion.

Hendustar4202004
Aug 13, 2007
11:19 AM
This is late but... Most highly paid Running Backs split money or give "presents" to their O-line, same with Highly paid QB's. They do this, because, when a season is over, and they are alive to play another year, it's cause their O-line didn't let them die... They should be thankful. There are great RB's, but there are also under-appreciated great O-lines!

KDXR
Aug 13, 2007
11:22 AM
Curtis Martin won the rushing title for the entire league a couple years back. Then the next season starts, and where is Martin? Well let me see.... his career was over just like that. And also to bring this to the point. How many Championships did Barry win? None. What does that tell you? Alot. Maybe the problem was as much Barry as the "horrible line". And don't give me the BS about Detriot sucking. During Barry's tenure there Detriot had the goods to make the super bowl. Maybe it was Barry's inconsisten running style that cost them. So as the point was made earlier. How important is a running back to the team. When it comes down to it you just need firt downs. That is something that Emmitt was very good at, and Barry was not the best at. So on further consideration maybe Emmitt is better, and the evidence is the three super bowl rings that he wears (for which he was a very signifcant contributor) as proof.

KDXR
Aug 13, 2007
11:29 AM
Also let us here admit the truth to ourselves. Barry behind a "great" offensive line is not the same as someone else like emmitt. This is the case purely from the type of runner that Barry was. I sure that it would help some, but it would not have the impact that it would for others. I mean Barry ####ed about running behind a fullback when that gooffy looking guy that the coached the chargers became head coach for the Lions(sorry forgot his name). Barry was the ultimate open field runner. So again, lets put the whole "if he had a great oline" card back in the deck.

LordTC
Aug 13, 2007
11:35 AM
Defense wins championships is a slogan from the precap days. Currently the teams that win championships are the teams that spend efficiently and allocate their money to important positions.

Look at INDY. Money on the best quarterback in the league. Money on the blind-side tackle.. and money on the Right End (Matching against the opponents blind-side tackle). The most dangerous pressure is pressure the QB doesn't see and Indy is great at both getting it and preventing it. They also have a QB who can throw the short completion whenever he sees the blitz coming on the side of the line that is good rather than phenomenal.

They also have a good set of recievers that they don't spend a ridiculous amount of money on.

Last edited by LordTC on August 13th at 11:36 AM.

MaDCow
Aug 13, 2007
11:40 AM
No - Emmit had an allstar supporting cast. Obviosuly you must je rk off to Emits picture or something or you wouldn't get so worked up. Emit was great. Nearly unstoppable for a few years. But we will never know how good he would have been with a bad line. By the time he went to AZ he was declining fast.He ran for 256 yds (10 games) and 937 yds with the Cards. And could have played a few more years I bet.

Definitely one of the all time bests.

Barry only ran for less then 1300 yds once - and that year he played 11 games (1115 yds). He usually ran for 1500+ and on top of that avged nearly 300 yds recing.

Different sytles though. Scat and scamble vs. lower and plow.

Last edited by MaDCow on August 13th at 11:43 AM.

tallmansvt
Aug 13, 2007
11:47 AM
LJ does NOT deserve it and I'll tell you why:

He has only produced solid results over a year and a half , before that he was a letdown and to some even a "bust". If he had applied himself and got his head out of his #### sooner he would be making the big money now because I think the Chiefs would have redone his contract by now. It's his own fault, besides he'll get the big contract next year whether he deserves it or not. It's a sad day when fans actually align themselves with crybaby, me-first, million dollar athletes who cry and bi-tch about how they're not multi-millionaires.

Last edited by tallmansvt on August 13th at 12:29 PM.

jcflyone1021
Aug 13, 2007
12:02 PM
KDXR are you serious!! Barry would have mopped the floor with Emmit smiths records if he would'nt of pulled out so early in his career. Thats the only way Emmit was able to catch Barry. Give me a break i loved watching Emmit run but he was nothing like Barry!!! not even close. If Barry would have had a line like Emmit was running behind the record would be unreachable period!

Last edited by jcflyone1021 on August 13th at 12:03 PM.

Husky2110
Aug 13, 2007
12:39 PM
I wouldn't say I agree with LJ holding out, he should honor his contract, although I understand why he and his agent are concerned now. No starting QB, loss of two perennial All-Pro O-lineman, a journey-level WR corps, heck LJ is going to be the 2nd coming of Earl Campbell and get ridden into the ground. He wants his payday now and he has proven his durability and production. Business, business, business.

PS.
There is no WAY Emmit holds Barry's jockstrap if you're comparing RB's.

beardown07
Aug 13, 2007
12:51 PM
KDXR, I think that's a local radio station here, but, anyway. Did I read your post correctly? I quote, "During Barry's tenure there Detroit had the goods to make a Super Bowl". Are you smoking crack? Talk about revised history. Was Scott Mitchell going to lead them to the promised land? Herman Moore alone was going to do it? That has got to be the single-most ridiculous thing that I have ever read on any of these boards.

millertime3852
Aug 13, 2007
1:07 PM
First: How about all of you bringing up irrelevant old Running backs and irrelevant records go to an old chat room and hash it out. The conversation is about LJ and current situations.
Second:Don't complain about 'crybaby, me-first, million dollar athletes' and then watch NFL football games on tv and view NFL web pages online. You are the ones that are making them millionaires. The television stations pay the NFL $467 Billion or so just to be allowed to show their games on tv...for you to watch. If you didn't watch, the stations wouldn't pay as much, and the players wouldn't make as much. In the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the players get 53%(or so) of the overall revenue that the league brings in. It's not like LJ is taking money out of your pocket. I purchase the NFL package every year and it's worth every penny to me. But they don't force me to buy it. If you don't want to go to a game, then don't go. If you don't want to buy a jersey...don't. Why doesn't anyone complain about an Author of a book(Harry Potter) making billions. What the heck did she do to deserve it. Thought of something creative and wrote it down. Pro Athletes work wwaaaayyyyy harder than any of us sitting here in our office chairs chatting about them. They sacrifice their families. They sacrifice their bodies. They sacrifice their freedom to do what they do. So stop whining about how much they make. If you don't like it...don't watch.

canvil
Aug 13, 2007
1:20 PM
I don't think it's a coincidence that SD Boy is probably just that, a boy. Your way of thinking is what's wrong with sports today.People today are so into numbers, and what they tell you on sportscenter, try forming your own opinion. For the LT lovers out there, yes he is the best today, natural talent yes, but the OL is probably the best in football, again. My point on Emmitt is he's not payton. sanders, sayers, all three of those would have put up what he did plus some. So Sd Boy keep watching espn and let them tell you what to believe and look at the numbers, why the rest of us form an opinion and try to make sense you real "####"

BLU86KC
Aug 13, 2007
5:25 PM
WHEN I MADE MY ORIGINAL COMMENT ABOUT LARRY JOHNSON ITS LIKE EVERY BLOOMING BANTERING WISEGUY WANTED TO RESURRECT BARRY SANDERS, EARL CAMPBELL AND WALTER PAYTON. DUH!!! LET'S TRY TO STAY FOCUSED ON PAYING LARRY JOHNSON HIS JUST DO. THE GUY SIGNED A ROOKIE CONTRACT THAT WAS GOOD FOR HIM AND THE ORGANIZATION BECAUSE NEITHER KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE GETTING INTO. NOW WE KNOW HE'S A BRUISING WORKHORSE THAT IS GROSSLY UNDERPAID BY FOOTBALL STANDARDS. HE SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO A NEW DEAL AND ALL THE MONEY. EARL CAMPBELL PLAYED 6 YEARS WITH THE SAME TYPE OF PLAY. HE'S NOW BASICALLY A RELATIVELY YOUNG CRIPPLE. WHO'S LOOKING OUT FOR EARL NOW? OH YEAH YOU LOVE TO WATCH OLD HIGHLITES OF EARL BUT NOBODY BUT NOBODY IS DOING ANYTHING FOR EARL THESE DAYS. MY POINT BEING IF A TEAM IS GOING TO USE A GUY FOR THE EQUIVALENT OF 43% OF THEIR OFFENSE HE'S GOT TO HAVE MORE VALUE THAN A ROOKIE CONTRACT. PAY THE GUY. I DON'T THINK THAT THEIRS MANY OF YOU THAT ARE WILLING TO COMMIT YOUR MINDS AND BODIES TO YOUR EMPLOYERS'FOR 6 OR 7 YEARS WITHOUT A SUBSTANTIAL PAY INCREASE. HELL TONY GONZALES JUST GOT KING CARL FOR ANOTHER 18 MILLION CERTAINLY A YOUNG WORKHORSE HAS GOT TO BE WORTH MORE. I'M OUT

Last edited by BLU86KC on August 13th at 5:35 PM.

Rich
Aug 13, 2007
9:26 PM
hey I'm a huge chief fan liveing in san diego and i can tell you LJ is no LT he should get a one year deal minus about 20% of what LT got and then renegot.

nittanylion1990
Aug 14, 2007
12:08 AM
Larry Johnson is well worth what he is asking for.

By the way, what #### made the statement that Penn State and Joe Paterno have no integrity? Clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about therefore any comments you make regarding anything football related have absolutely no merit.

What are you, a girl?

Hah! Even a girl knows the impact that JoePa has had and continues to have on the Big Ten and College football overall.

Go Blue!!!!

tallmansvt
Aug 14, 2007
6:57 AM
MILLERTIME- Your comments are irrelevant and asking NFL fans not to watch because we believe their salaries are bloated is ludicrous. If all the fans of every sports team followed your credo there would be no fans of any sport anywhere except you bleeding hearts that would blindly follow any athlete and pay him what he wants. Tell what my friend- if all the fans who believe athletes are overpayed refused to patronize their sports, YOUR ticket prices would be through the roof. That's twisted logic if I ever heard it. And we fans have every right to believe what we do and telling us not to watch is being pig-headed, naive, and fascist. LJ doesnt deserve a dime more until his contract runs out and he's acting like a spoiled child to attempt to get it. My 5 year old daughter whines less than this guy, but by all means keep kissing his #### and let the baby have his bottle!

tallmansvt
Aug 14, 2007
7:31 AM
Also if you're going to quote me, try the whole thing and not conveniently pick and choose to try to further your opinion, You're worse than a sportswriter, azzhole!!!

Last edited by tallmansvt on August 14th at 7:33 AM.

SDBOY
Aug 14, 2007
8:25 AM
Canvil, I think you need to go reread my post. You either can't read or all these post are upsetting you and your not thinking straight. You said all I talk about is the numbers. I don't see any numbers in my post. In fact everything I said in that post is a fact. 100% And I think Everybody would agree.
Anyways. I just wanted to make one comment about Barry Sanders because he seems to be the favorite as the best running back ever. I might have to agree. But I can say this. I really feel bad for the people of Detroit. Barry stayed with that team because he wanted to. Nobody forced him to sign new contracts. The people of Detroit loved him, supported him,gave him the key to the city, and was like a god. All for what. In the end he repayed the city with showing them the door. He QUIT. He could of gave that city the rush record they deserved to see him get. I loved to watch Barry run. And I do love him as a player. But to me he is not a true champion because he quit. You can put that loser Tikki Barber on the list also.

canvil
Aug 14, 2007
9:20 AM
This is getting frustrating with you simple people. LJ should not get more money I'm sure he signed a 5 year deal and he should live up to that, he only had 1.5 good years. If he gets hurt will he give the money back? The Nittany Lion fan, my point is Paterno is a piece of garbage and I can site numerous things, people are told he's a great guy and that's ####, props for lasting so long that's it. 50 yard passes on the last play of the game when 40 up on Rutgers, changing your vote the last week because you say it will hurt recruiting, real class act. I do give "ups" for acknowledging Michigan everyone knows if you say "Go Blue" you mean U of M.

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