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The results of the Flawed System
Jan 02, 2007 | 10:01AM | report this

Now, many of you who are still here may remember the "MrNFL's NFL PREVIEW EXTRAVANGANZA" which created the Flawed System and the Flawed Predictions.

Before the beginning of the NFL Season, I had created what I call the "Flawed System"  Basically, I ranked each team by position, and put it against the actual schedules.

Now obviously, getting these type of predictions right are hard to do, but I want to see how wrong I was.

Red = Dead on

NFC


NFC NORTH
Bears 13-3 (1 seed) My prediction 11-5 (3 seed)
Well I was somewhat close. I may have undervalued the offense slightly, and I didn't expect Gould to be good, or Hester's crazy year, so they likely didn't get all of the ST points they deserved.  

Packers 8-8 My prediction 2-14
Ok, I didn't expect anything from the Packers. Whoops.

Vikings 6-10 My prediction 8-8
I thought the D would be solid, and the O decent. The D couldn't stop the pass, and the O was ####.

Lions 3-13 My prediction 3-13
DING DING DING! I CALLED IT!!! WOOOO!! (Not that tough to predict the LIONS)



NFC SOUTH

Saints 10-6 (2 seed) My prediction 2-14
Wow, swing and a miss here. I thought the offense could be good, however I didn't trust their O-Line. Proved me wrong. Plus, I thought they could have the worst defense in football. But I think they surprised everyone.

Panthers 8-8 My prediction 8-8
I'm really proud of this one. Everyone had the Panthers in the Super Bowl, but I had them out of the playoffs. I got that right.


Falcons 7-9 My prediction 9-7
Injuries killed the defense, which I thought would be improved enough to win 9. The offense did what I expected, which was very little.

Buccaneers 4-12 My Prediction 10-6 (4 seed)
Whoops. Well they were in the playoffs last year. The strong D from last year got old very fast.  And so much for Cadillac Williams being great, he was average, they needed big things from him in that offense.


NFC EAST
Eagles 10-6 (3 seed) My prediction 11-5 (3 seed)
When it spit out Philly as the division winner, everyone called me a complete fool. Most didn't give the Eagles 6 wins. People forget that last years Eagles D had tons of injuries that killed them, and they still had a great team.

Cowboys 9-7 (5 seed) My prediction 10-6 (5 seed)
Only one game off again, and got the seed right again. I figured them out pretty well.

Giants 8-8 (6 seed) My prediction 8-8
I got this one right, except 8-8 wasn't enough to get into the playoffs.


Redskins 5-11 My prediction 9-7 (6 seed)
Well....I suppose I can't get ALL 4 teams that close. This offense majorly underachieved.  Defense should have been better as well.


NFC WEST
Seahawks 9-7 (4 seed) My prediction 11-5 (1 seed)
Meh, if Alexander/Hasselbeck weren't hurt early, they probably could have hit that mark, that damaged the offense largely.

Rams 8-8 My prediction 7-9
Pretty close on the Rams

49ers 7-9 My prediction 2-14
I didn't expect Frank Gore to become what he was for me on Madden...a total beast. He alone made this team better offensively.

Cardinals 5-11 My prediction 8-8
Wait, wasn't this offense supposed to be good?  If the O-Line didn't totally blow.  Defense sucked as expected.


AFC

AFC NORTH

Ravens 13-3 (2 seed) My prediction 9-7
Well, I expected the D to be a bit weakened this year. Whiff. What's sad is that if they do win it all, the credit will ALL go to McNair, when that offense still stinks, and the D is the reason for the success.

Bengals 8-8 My prediction 9-7
Pretty close. Poor Bengals...their special teams killed them in the end.

Steelers 8-8 My prediction 15-1 (1 seed)
I thought the Steelers D would be great, boy was I wrong. Early they stopped running the ball, and it killed the offense completely, turnovers were their demise.

Browns 4-12 My prediction 3-13
Browns stunk, pretty easy to get that right..


AFC SOUTH
Colts 12-4 (3 seed) My prediction 14-2 (2 seed)
Well, the D was worse than I expected. Maybe if Bob Sanders could ACTUALLY PLAY A GAME SOMETIME THIS YEAR!!!!

Jaguars 8-8 My prediction 8-8
DING DING DING!!!

Titans 8-8 My prediction 3-13
Well, they surprised everyone with that second half of the year.  Defense came on very strong late.

Texans 6-10 My prediction 4-12
A bit better than I thought on D.


AFC EAST
Patriots 12-4 (4 seed) My prediction 12-4 (4 seed)
Wow, I couldn't have gotten the Pats more correct.


Jets 10-6 (5 seed) My prediction 1-15
Ok...so I had the Jets as football's worst team. My bad...

Bills 7-9 My prediction 5-11
Bills somewhat did better than I thought

Dolphins 6-10 My prediction 12-4 (5 seed)
Stupid Dolphins made me look like a fool. That offense turned out to be a total sham.  I bought the Ronnie Brown and Chris Chambers hype...bad choice on my part.

AFC WEST
Chargers 14-2 (1 seed) My prediction 12-4
Well, even though I predicted 12-4, they lost the tiebreaker with the Chiefs and missed. I got the record close though...

Chiefs 9-7 (6 seed) My prediction 12-4 (6 seed)
Got the seeding right, altough they didn't do nearly as good as I thought they could've.

Broncos 9-7 My prediction 13-3 (3 seed)
Perhaps Shanahan is now on the hot seat?  That team underachieved big time.

Raiders 2-14 My prediction 5-11
Wow, I can't believe I was that generous to the Raiders...

In the end, out of 256 games played, The flawed system's record was...

153-103


Actually, considering, that wasn't completely terrible. Altough it did predict a Super Bowl repeat...(Hey, Seattle could still shock everyone)

In a group of 44, the Flawed System finished 13th in Pick'Em. Not terrible. I shall seek ways to improve the system in order to make it more accurate for next year.

MrNFL

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The New Home of MrNFL
Oct 23, 2006 | 1:27PM | report this

Thanks to ThePhoenix for mentioning Sportingnews.com in his last post, because I have found a new home. I've been looking to leave Foxsports and find a better place to continue my blogs, and I have.

My new blog is at http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/MrNFL

If you would like to continue reading my work, I suggest you go there.


(Plus, SportingNews it says modifys incorrect tags, so NO MORE SPAMMING CATEGORIES!, HONESTLY HOW HARD IS IT TO PUT YOUR DAMNED POLITICS IN THE "OTHER" SECTION INSTEAD OF SCREWING EVERYONE ELSE OVER?  THE NFL SECTION IS FOR NFL POSTS!!!)

I will be writing my random rantings from their for now on. I will occasionally comment on blogs around here, but don't expect any posts unless the spamming ends, or the next NGS allows my age to compete.

Goodbye everyone!



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Goodbye everyone.
Oct 11, 2006 | 2:11PM | report this

I am offically announcing that I will be no longer posting blogs for an undetermined amount of time.

Why?

Well there are multiple reasons. One, eventually school will greatly limit the time I have for these blogs.


And two, I'm honestly kind of saddened by what has happened here over the last month. All of these blogger on blogger attacks, spamming categories, politics, and much more have really turned me off of this website.

I will still comment time to time on some sports posts that are written well. But I really have no desire to post any more here for the time being.

I will still be active in the pick'em group, and my fantasy leagues. But for now, I am done posting any blogs.

THAT'S ALL I GOT.

Also, breaking news from ESPN. In the plane crash that hit a NY building earlier today, Cory Lidle was in the plane, and has died. Lidle was a pitcher for the Yankees and Phillies this season. He was 34 years old. Rest in peace Cory...

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Bloggers needed for Bloggers Around the Horn
Oct 04, 2006 | 12:55PM | report this

Yes, that same bloggers Around the Horn will be returning this Friday. But I do need 3 more bloggers, as NeoAC is the only guy I got in for sure. If you are interested, you can either leave your email, or send an email

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Madden 2007, A overview of sorts
Sep 26, 2006 | 7:21PM | report this

For those of you who have played the series, you know all of the basics, and I'm not gonna bore you with the all of the stuff that has been in the game for years. Today, we look at what changes there are in Madden 07.

Among them is a new way to kick field goals, with what I call the kick-o-meter. Basically, you pull back on one of the analog sticks, then let go. Pretty simple, I actually kick better than I ever have, and I struggled with this kick--o-meter on NCAA 07.

Also, the new blocking controls. I am terrible at it, my blockers tend to completly whiff, but it is a great idea, e####ally since my lineman tend to go braindead. If you can master the leadblock controls, you could have a crazy good running game.

Franchise Mode: Training Camp remains the same, except the kicking drill is a bit shorter because with the new meter you kick faster. I still am waiting for a legit offensive lineman drill. (Trench Fight sucks, I can't do jack in that drill) And how does getting by other O-lineman help a O-lineman? Seriously!

NFL Network mode, basically a fancyier practice mode, nothing special there.

Superstar mode is a bit different. For one, you don't get to call the plays, which for me has been a bad thing. When your player is on the field, you play him. When he isn't, you can either chose to control the team normally, or let it simulate. The only problem with simulating is that for me my teams are incredibly stupid on offense.

Back to Franchise, the owner's box has changed 0. You'd think they'd update that, but they haven't. One new thing I like is the "Player Roles" that each player can get. These roles effect almost anything from player attributes, to opponant attributes. No guarantee I get them all, but here is a list of all of the roles. (Many players could apply for mulitple roles, but you only get a max of 2 a player)

NFL Starter: Pretty straight foward, a player who starts 12 games a year earns the role, gets a 3% value boost as well. But they lose morale if they don't play.

Injury Prone: If a player's injury rating and toughness rating are low enough, they get this, which lowers their trade value and market value.

1st Round Pick: 1st rounder expects to play every game by their 3 year in the league, value goes up by 7%

Fan Favorite: Player has to be 90 overall or better, and be with one team for 5 or more years. Value goes up by 10%, and increases attendance.

Franchise QB: Player's value goes up by 10%, and his entire offense gets ratings boosts.

Captain Comeback: QB who gets 10 4th quarter comebacks in their career, value goes up by 6%.

QB of the Future: Goes to a QB drafted high and is young. Trade value rises, and they expect to start by year 3. (Sadly, this role doesn't go to newly drafted QB's...)

Game Manager, goes to a QB between 89-81 overall, expects to play 4 games a year.

Underachiever: Any 1st round pick who's overall is really low. Value drops by 8% and other players lose attributes.

Fumble Prone: Low carry rating and lots of fumbles make it happen, value drops by 10%, loses carry rating on 3rd down and in the 4th Q.

Offensive Playmaker: Value goes up by 6%, gets attribute boosts at clutch times.

Feature back: RB who expects 75% of the carries and to start each game. OL ratings get boost.

Future Star: Young player who's really good, trade value up 25%.

Deep Threat: Fast reciever, who needs 3 catches a game. Value up by 4%, QB's rating boosted and DB rating lowered.

Possession Reciever: Expects average of 2 first downs a game. Value up by 3%, and QB and his ratings increase.

Go to Guy: Expects a lot, but QB's ratings go up a ton.

Return Speicalist: Returner gets boosts

Team Mentor: Young players at the mentors position get boosts.

Team Captain: Value goes up 1%

Team Leader: Overall and Morale has to be high. Value up by 5%, younger players get Awareness boost.

Distraction: Player who's morale is low, Value drops by 8%, team loses some awareness.

Pass Rusher: Expects 3 sacks a year, OL's attributes get dropped, DB's go up.

Run Stopper: OL loses ratings, LB's and Safeties get a little better.

Defensive Playmaker: Value up by 7%, get's boosts in the clutch

Defensive Enforcer: Expects 10 big hits a year, tackling goes up.

Shutdown Corner: WR and QB's attributes drop.

Clutch Kicker: Most make 3 game winning kicks to get role, gets boost in 4th Quarter.

That's all I think for the roles. Pretty good.

Free agency during Franchise offseason is a bit better, because teams aren't afraid to get rid of good players. Some great free agents become available through cuts. (I got Peppers, Moss, Levi Jones, and McNair in one offseason)

Draft kinda sucks. The College All Star game is alright, but you only can work out 8 players, you have to do well with them to learn anything about them. And then most players all you get on them are the 40 time and such. Luckily I copied overalls from NCAA 07 to know who's good at what, but it is a bit of a disadvantage.

Punts are still almost impossible to actually return, that will probably never change.

If you liked the past Madden's, you'll like this too. They are good games, I recommend you buy buy buy.

NEXT VIDEO GAME REVIEW: I might review NHL 07 when I get it...stay tuned.








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Bloggers Around the Horn (2nd Edition)
Sep 22, 2006 | 2:02PM | report this


Welcome everyone to the 2nd edition of Bloggers Around the Horn (Presented by Mr.NFL) I am your host, MrNFL, and I will be cheaply scoring the arguement between these 4 bloggers. Note, my comments will be in bold. With that, let's introduce today's contestants!


First, represented by red font (He requested it...) Straight from Canada, we have NeoAC.

Neo: Thank you, Mr. NFL. I know I'm the first foreign guest you've had on your show, so I will speak slowly and refrain from using big words so my colleagues don't get confused.

Alrighty then, next up we have Wiseguy6, who we'll give green

Wise:
Down here in Tampa, I am leading the charge for the removal of Mr. Chris Simms as our quarterback. But other than that, I am doing pretty well.

Yeah, how bout Simms eh? Next up, in blue font, we have Rivjo

Rivjo: I’ve been told I know everything about nothing and I’m here to prove it. It’s about to get late early for you other guys. Second place ain’t so bad guys. Show me the way to the winner’s lounge Mr. NFL.

(MUTE) I think Adande copyrighted the "Lounge." Hee hee. Finally, in Gold we have Burger21

Burger: Good Afternoon Mr. NFL. Thanks for inviting me to be on this great show with such distinguished panelists (please don’t mute me right away for sucking up). I am burger21, and I have a temperature of 104 – or is it 100.4 – anyway, I am All Sports - All the time and I am here to drop the Truth on you!

I hope for your sake you score more than your Steelers did last week. Anyway, let's start it off with the First Word!


THE FIRST WORD

Week 3 of the great NFL season starts this Sunday, and there is some interesting matchups. Among them, two power offense vs power defense games with the Jags and Colts, and the Steelers and Bengals. Not to mention the disapointment Bowl for the Panthers and Bucs. Gentlemen, I ask, which of these games this week is the most important? We will start with Burger.

Burger: Lots of intriguing match-ups this week – Indy vs. Jax, Bears vs. Vikings, Giants vs. Seahawks – and of course the temptation is there for me to select my Steelers’ big showdown with Cincy. This is a huge game for the champs to re-establish themselves after the letdown in Jacksonville Monday, and as a divisional game it means much more. (+3) However, the question is which game is the most important and when considering that you have to look at the big picture, and the clear cut winner in that regard is the Monday night game between the Falcons and Saints in New Orleans. Yes, certainly the Saints, and perhaps the Falcons also, will be absent from contending for the Super Bowl this year, but this game goes beyond the standings and implications and hits the heart of America dead center. (+3) This will be the first time the Saints play in their city in a meaningful game since the horrific events of Hurricane Katrina last year. (+2) The game will be a rebirth for a team, a city, a stadium, and a region; and will solidify the reputation of good ‘ole American resolve and fortitude. While emotions and fanfare will be off the charts, this game also is vital for the Saints to play well in, if not win, because after all the hoopla fades away, it still comes down to football and the fans of New Orleans need to know they have a promising future in their team. (+2) We’ve all empathized with “Aints” fans over the years, with the bags over their heads and their wacko owner, but over the past year they have become like an adopted orphan to many, and everyone wants to see this team exemplify the nation’s resiliency with a rise to glory. They may be 2-0, but everyone knows those wins came against bottom dwellers Cleveland and Green Bay, so they need a superlative effort and strong showing against a contender so that their thoughts can begin to include playoff aspirations down the road (+3) (mocking Jim Mora – “Playoffs! Playoffs!! You’re talking about Playoffs!!!??) With the debut of Drew Brees and the dawning of the Reggie Bush era, this is a ‘can’t miss’ event for all football fans. Even Morten Anderson is making a return for old time’s sake! (+1)

Good stuff Burger, Rivjo, what say you?

Rivjo: It may be only week 3 but there are tons of HUGE games already. For example, all 6 AFC playoff teams from last year square off against each other on Sunday. (+3) Two of the three games are grudge matches featuring squads that were eliminated by their opponent. In one revenge special, Cincinnati heads into the Pittsburgh looking to wipe their butts with some “terrible towels”.(+3) In the other, New England looks to settle their post-season score as Denver and the much-maligned Jake Plummer journey to Foxboro. (+2) Finally, Jacksonville looks to get physical with Peyton Manning and the Colts in the Dome, where only one team can leave undefeated with the division lead.(+2) Heck, the Carolina-Tampa Bay game in the NFC South may be even more important than any of these since whoever loses here might already be kissing the playoffs good-bye. (+2)

The most important game in the league though is on Monday Night Football. Atlanta gets the privilege of being the first team to visit the New Orleans Superdome as they take on the Saints. All eyes in America will be on the good folks of Louisiana as they welcome pro football back to the region ravaged by Hurricane Katrina. Sure it’s probably going to be a blowout but this is by far the most meaningful event of the week. The others are just games. This is much deeper than that. (+4)

Alright, Wiseguy, go.

Wiseguy: I got to go with Carolina Panthers vs. the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Carolina came into the season with such high expectations and where everyone’s Super Bowl pick, but in the last two weeks they have been exposed to some serious weaknesses. (+4)The biggest, obviously, is the fact that their offense can’t run without Steve Smith. (+2) They are 30th in total team offense for the past two weeks without Smith, last year they were 8th with him. (+2) Good stat.

And now to Tampa, where to begin. The offense has been outscored by the Raiders (that by itself is sad), (+3) Chris Simms is on pace to throw 48 ints, and Cadillac Williams has yet to rush for more than 50 yards in a game.(+2) That doesn’t sound like a team that won its division a year ago. This game has to be Simms’s coming out party or he will be holding a clipboard instead of the pigskin.

Plus, no one wants to start the season 0-3. (+2)

Ok, Neo, you?

Neo:
Without a doubt, Carolina against Tampa Bay. Both these clubs were highly touted coming into the season, and after this game, one of these clubs will be 0-3, and be facing a major uphill climb to get back into the playoff picture. (+3)

The Panthers have been struggling to get out of the gate this season. Whether its Steve Smith's hamstrings or John Fox's playcalling, nothing has been up to snuff so far. (+3) The offense has been sputtering, with only one TD scored in the first two games, (+2) and Jake Delhomme sporting an anemic 61.5 rating. If Smith does not return soon, all hope could be lost for the Panthers, no matter how good that defense is. (+2)

And the Buccos offense is even worse. At least the Panthers got a TD. Chris Simms has just looked lost this year, with no TDs, 6 INTs and a passer rating of 40. (+4) Where's Brian Greise when you need him, eh Gruden? (+1) Cadillac Williams has a major case of the sophomore jinx going on right now, gaining just 59 yards. And that 11:1 turnover ratio can't be helping much either (+2). So who do you pick?

Go for the team that has managed to score. Panthers win 13-3.


(HORN) Ok, two picks for Panthers/Bucs, two for Falcons/Saints. I'm surprised no one picked the Jags/Colts or Steelers/Bengals matchups, possibly AFC Championship previews...Onward...


The New York Mets season has been pretty good, they were the first to clinch a playoff birth in the MLB, and based on record, are far superior of every other NL team. However, anything can happen in the playoffs. With that, I ask, How far do the Mets go in the playoffs? Wiseguy start us off.

Wiseguy:
NLCS. I don’t see them winning the NL because of one major thing that they lack- pitching, pitching, and pitching.(+2) Their top two starters, Pedro Martinez and Tom Glavine, both have injury and performance issues heading into the playoffs. (+2) In Martinez's case, he's back from the DL (injured calf), but he was roughed up by the lowly Pirates in his first start since rejoining the rotation.(+3) Glavine, since the All-Star break, has an ERA of 5.03 with a strikeout-to-walk ratio of only 1.76 (+4) Great stat. If the first-half Glavine shows up, the Mets — particularly with their potent offense — should be just fine, but if the recent Glavine incarnation is the one on the mound, then the NL's best team could be in trouble. (+2)

And the back of the rotation is nothing to be proud about either. John Maine is a rookie and has never pitched in the bright lights of New York during playoff time (+1). Steve Trachsel (4.96 ERA) was been very inconsistent all year and I don’t know if El Duque can turn into that dominant playoff pitcher he is known for being. I got the Dodgers beating them in 6. (+1)

Dodgers eh? Alright then, NeoAC you're up.

Neo: Let's look at the Mets projected path as of right now.

Mets have the best division record so they would end up playing the wild card, which will likely be either Los Angeles, San Diego or Philadelphia. We'll give San Diego the West for now so lets focus on the other two. The Dodgers fared much better against the Mets than the Phillies did, with a 3-4 record against compared to Phila's 6-9. The Dodgers also won the series set 4-3 with the Liberty Boys, so in a one-game playoff they will likely emerge victorious. (+3) Against the Mets however, they would be tired from both the wildcard race and the playoff game, so New York takes round one. (+2)

In the next round, I project they would face the Padres anyway, given St. Louis's recent struggles with the injury bug and their scarcity of starting pitching. (+2) The Mets owned the Padres more than they did the Dodgers, taking that series 5-2. The Padres don't have the offense to deal with the power the Mets put behind the ball. So we'll give the Mets the NL pennant as well. (+2)

However, being the best team in the NL this year is like being the best hockey team in Malaysia. (+2) Funny stuff It just doesn't matter when you go up against the big boys. New York, like everyone else except San Francisco and Florida, had a losing record against the AL, going 6-9 against The Yankees, Boston, Toronto and Baltimore. (+3) If the Athletics or Tigers win the AL, they might have a chance, but if the Twins or Yankees show up to play, it'll be game over for the Amazin' Mets.
(+2)

Ok, Rivjo?

Rivjo:

As much as it pains me to admit this, I can’t see any team truly eliminating the Mets in the National League. Since the season started you’ve been getting a sense of destiny about this club that GM Omar Minaya has put together. (+3) If anyone can get to them, they’ll be most vulnerable in the first round series. After a long period of meaningless games it will be interesting to see if the Mets can simply turn the intensity on again. (+3) They should probably root for the Padres to win the NL West and the Phillies the wild card. It’s in their best interest to have the Dodgers lose out since L.A. has 3 quality starters in Derek Lowe, Brad Penny and Greg Maddux to go along with a solid veteran line-up. (+5) The only scenario where I have the Mets not making the World Series is if they draw the Dodgers first and get stunned in the short 5 game series.(+2) Even so I don’t see it happening. I predict another Subway Series and an eventual loss to my love em’ or hate em’ Yankees. Call it a “homer pick” but it is was it is. (+1)

Ok, and Burger?

Burger:

You know, a lot of people look at the Mets as a young team, primarily because of emerging stars like David Wright and Jose Reyes and because they’ve been off the radar for several seasons, but this really is a veteran ball club with Carlos Delgado, Pedro, Tom Glavine, Paul LoDuca, Jose Valentin, and now Shawn Green. (+5) These guys have been in some big games, albeit for different teams, but they have post season experience and know what it takes to win. (+2) The big games Willie Randolph has been through as a player and coach with the Yankees can’t be understated either. (+2)They seem to have all the pieces in place but there are some questions that linger, foremost of which is the health and subsequent effectiveness of their pitching. (+2) surrounded Pedro and Glavine going in to this season and their injury setbacks have done nothing to alleviate those doubts. (+3) How they fare in the final week of the season should tell a great deal about their chances. The Cardinals have pitching stability issues of their own, but I like the make up of their bench much better – the Mets counter with the ageless Julio Franco – so they will have difficulty getting past them. (+3) In the end though I think they prevail and make it through the NL, only to lose another Subway Series to the Yankees.
Doubts as to how much was left in the tank
(+1) Extra point for mentioning the ageless wonder Franco. (HORN) So that's end of round 1, and I find it interesting that you guys are certain on the Yankees, interesting. Well right now NeoAC leads with 33, Burger has 32, and Rivjo and Wiseguy both have 30, Wow, I gave everyone too many points, here's a (MUTE) for all of you. Commercial time, coming up, Buy or Sell!


The Greatest game show of the all, the Price is RIght! Every Monday-Friday at 11 AM ET on CBS.

BUY? OR SELL?

Buy or sell time, lets do it!

First up, last week in the NFL, there was 3 overtime games. In one of them, the team that one the coin toss (Broncos) scored before the Chiefs could even touch the ball. It also lead to a fun arguement between Phil Simms and Jim Nantz during the game. My question, Buy or Sell the NFL's current overtime system? Rivjo, you lead off.

Rivjo:

I’m selling the NFL overtime system. Who would buy it? Quite frankly I think it’s awful. You bust your hump for 60 minutes only to have all your hard work ruined by losing a coin flip, a good kick return, a couple of first downs and a field goal. (+3) Okay, so maybe it’s a little harder than that but each team should at least get the same number of possessions.(+2) On second thought, if it was a good idea to hijack the 2-pt conversion from college I say we do the same with its overtime system. Now that’s exciting. (+2)

Wiseguy?

Wiseguy: I would guarantee each team one possession. But it wouldn’t be like college. If the first team to get the ball scores, they would have to kick off and stop the other team from doing the same, not give them the ball at the 25 yard line. (+3) It’s a pretty simple solution. This way, each team has a chance to win the game. (+1)

Gotcha, and for some reason FOX is being screwy with the colors there. Burger what say you?

Burger:

I’m selling this. I love the fact that the college system gives each team – offense and defense – the chance to compete and prove their mettle. (+2) Think of the classics we’ve seen: OSU-Miami for the National Championship; last year’s Orange Bowl between FSU-Penn State. (+3) Even this year think about the incredible goal line stands by Iowa against Syracuse that may save their season.(+2) Great games should not come down to a coin flip. The only change I would make would be starting each team farther back than the 25 so it’s not just an automatic field goal contest. (+2)

And Neo?

Neo: Sell. It relies too much on chance. Adopt the college system and just be done with it. The game will be better for it, it will give the fans more to cheer about. And there will be no more ties! Except in soccer, but that doesnt count. (+3)

Next, so far this season, Rex Grossman has been great. Altough it was against Detroit and Green Bay, Grossman has put up great passing numbers, but questions still loom about when he will get injured, as he always does. Gentlemen, Buy or Sell Grossman staying healthy the entire year? Burger?

Burger:

I’m buying for now, but I’m keeping my receipt for a return or exchange later. He is displaying a greater presence in the pocket and seems calm and less reckless as his confidence grows, but he hasn’t been tested by a strong defense yet (though looking at their schedule he won’t face many strong defenses). (+3)

3 points for the answer, but a (MUTE) for "keeping the reciept,", that was weak. Wiseguy?

Wiseguy: The last time Rex was healthy for a full season was his senior year at Florida. I have a feeling he’ll get injuryed this year; my prediction is week 9 vs. the Dolphins. (+3)

NeoAC?

Neo: Sell. There's a reason Brian Greise was brought in in the off-season (Yikes! Two Greise mentions in one show. Eerie). I just don't think Grossman can manage to stay off the injured list a whole year. Him being carted off the field is a part of an average NFL season, much like talk about Drew Bledsoe getting benched. (+4)

Two Griese mentions, I suppose that deserves a (MUTE) Rivjo?

Rivjo:

I’m buying Rex staying healthy. He’s playing behind a veteran offensive line that is going to keep him on his feet. Center Olin Kreutz is one of the best in the business. In fact Olin is so tough he broke fellow Bears lineman Fred Miller’s jaw in a dispute last year. Miller by the way goes 6 ft 7 in and weighs 320 pounds. It’s behind them now and keeping Rex safe should be easy compared to that. I am selling on Grossman having lots more 300-yards/4 touchdowns games though. (+5)

Ah, dap for the O-Line! I like, you get another point. (+1) Onward...

The Jaguars last week absolutely destroyed the Steelers offense. The week before, they did a good job against the Cowboys. Buy or Sell the Jaguars as the NFL's best D? Neo?

Neo: I think I may Buy this one. But its on a rental basis first. Lets see how they fare against Indianapolis before I make the full purchase. If its not them, I'm going to say the best D is back in Baltimore. (+3)

So you sorta bought it, and sorta didn't, meh (MUTE) Rivjo?

Rivjo:

I’m selling Jacksonville as the best defense in the league. It’s too early for them to be crowned that yet. They have been impressive for sure but against whom? Dallas has potential on offense but they have not had enough time to gel with the pre-season T.O. hamstring escapades. As for Pittsburgh, Ben Roethlisberger was probably rushed back far too soon from his appendectomy. Let’s see what the Jags do against the Colts this Sunday before we jump to any conclusions. (+4) Wiseguy?

Wiseguy: Sell- Sure they looked great on Monday night, but that was against a bad Steelers offense with a still injuryed Ben Roethlisbeger. If they blank the colts, then I’ll change my mind. But until then, the Bears have the best defense. (+3)

Burger? It was your team that got trampled, what say you?

Burger: As much as this pains me to admit, I have to buy this until some one proves other wise. The Bears’ defense will once again put up gaudy stats against inferior competition; the Panthers seem in disarray; and the Steelers’ defense is great but their gambling style lends to giving up a few big plays a game, so the Jags are it for now. They can really cement their claim as the best defense if they can shut down the Colts in Indy this week. (+3)

(HORN) I think we all agree that we need to see the Jaguars play the Colts. Ok, first cut time, and as we look at the scores, Wiseguy6, you are the low man, final thoughts?

Wiseguy:
Forget about the last game, Adrian Peterson still needs to get strong consideration for the Heisman. It’s not his fault the officials absolutely sucked. He played like warrior and deserves the recognition.
(MUTE) Ok, your done for the day, Out of Bounds is next!



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Ok, 2 down, here's how they stand. Rivjo leads with 46, Burger right behind him with 45, and NeoAC Bringing up the rear with 40.

OUT OF BOUNDS

This week's college football schedule doesn't look as exciting as last week. Only featuring two games with two ranked teams, and one of those games both teams are in the 20's. My question for you is, of all of the this weekends games, give me one upset. We shall start with Neo.

Neo: Not a lot to pick from, like you said, but I think I feel most secure taking North Carolina St. over #20 Boston College. The Eagles have just been skating on thin ice along the entire season so far. They almost let Central Michigan take them into overtime, they survived Clemson only thanks to a missed extra point attempt in OT, and somehow Brigham Young also managed to push them into the extra frame. (+6) I have a feeling they are about to make like that Pakistani acid girl from Family Guy. (+3) Love the FG reference. I know North Carolina St. has been horrible so far, losing to Akron and Southern Miss, but there is hope. Soph. Daniel Evans will make his first college start against the boys from Chestnut Hill, and he looked very good in mop-up duty, going 8/11 for 96 yards and a TD. Chuck Amato is also going to be pulling out all the stops for this games, because if he doesn't start now, he'll be lucky to last until the end of the season. (+2)

Burger?

Burger:

This question is an obvious attempt to get me to go on record in picking my Nittany Lions over OSU, and I have every confidence that they can and will show up strong in that game. I’m no fair-weather fan so I’ll go ahead and say it! Penn State wins! But I expect them to win so that is not my upset pick of the week. (+4)

While I think Michigan may be primed for a let down game against Wisconsin, another potential letdown game jumped out at me even more: Louisville at Kansas State. The Cards got past their big test against Miami and have a relatively easy road until their big showdown with West Virginia. I can easily see a stumbling block for them in the 3-0 Wildcats. (+3)


Rivjo what do you have?

Rivjo:

I hate to make this prediction, especially since I support the Golden Domers, but I have to do it. So many intangibles go into this pick. Currently The Fighting Irish are ranked 12th. Unless you were under a rock last week everybody knows that they were beat down at home by Michigan. (+3) This week they must travel to Michigan State to play the unranked Spartans (3-0) who are fresh off a victory over Pittsburgh. Last year the Spartans upset Notre Dame in South Bend and will be very hungry to make it two years in a row. (+2) I think Brady Quinn and company are still reeling from the disappointment of watching their National Championship hopes dashed and will lay another egg. (+3) Anyone who called them over-rated can give himself another pat on the back. I wonder if the team has begun to believe the critics themselves. (+2)

(HORN) Wow, interesting picks from this one. Well let's look at the scores, Rivjo you're save. And NeoAC, you fall just one short of Burger with 51. Parting shots?

Neo: Well, I guess its back to the Great White North for me. I just want to say, look for the Weekend Pickoff on Friday night, and if anyone still cares, the NHL season starts in a month! Go Oilers!

(MUTE) NHL Season shall be great. Ok, Showdown up next, featuring Rivjo and Burger21. Two men enter, only one will survive. And Adam Best has got to love seing two of his guys in the showdown. Showdown after this commercial!

Stephen Colbert, delivering truthiness Monday-Thursday on Comedy Central.

SHOWDOWN

Alright, Showdown between Rivjo and Burger21. Lessss Go!

Earlier this week, Morten Andersen signed a deal with the Falcons. The old kicker is 46 years old, older than any active player by 4 years. The question is, at what age does he finally retire? Rivjo start us off.

Rivjo:

As long as Morton can still kick field goals I say stick around forever. I think he will finally retire in the year 2010, even though it most certainly wouldn’t be as a regular. He will not only turn 50 years old that year but he will also have played pro football during 4 separate decades. Morton began his career in 1982 and I could see some former team letting him kick an extra point to accomplish this feat.

Burger:

I think it’s great that Anderson is back with the Falcons, especially going to New Orleans – the scene of his best years – Monday night, but this is a one year signing and he will be done for good after this season, or before if he fares poorly.

I like Rivjo's faith in the Great Dane, he gets the point. Next up.

NASCAR's second race in the ridiclous "Chase" is this week at Dover. Who ya got? Burger?

Burger:

Last week was a perfect example of why I dislike this “Chase” system. Jimmie Johnson was leading most of the season, only to have a crash and now he’s in the basement of the leader board because they have to start over? What is that? I think JJ wins in Dover and quiets his “can’t close the deal” critics. He won this race there last year and has 3 wins, 7 top tens, 4 top fives, and a pole in ten career starts at Dover.

Rivjo:

Nobody in “The Chase” needs a win more than Jimmy Johnson. After his wreck last week in New Hampshire he dropped all the way down to 9th in the standings. He can’t afford another poor showing and I look for him to drive the wheels off of the car. Jimmy has 3 career wins at this track and here comes number 4. After all, his luck can’t always stay awful during Chase Races, can it? He’ll be the man to beat in Dover.

I like the Stats from Burger, he gets the point. And finally for the game.


I'm sure all of you know about the insanity that is the Oklahoma-Oregon craziness. The people at Oklahoma want loss not to count against them in the BCS Standings. The Referees have already been suspended, and OU is threating to cancel future games against Pac-10 teams. The question is, is Oklahoma in the right for continuing to push this? Or should they just move on. Rivjo?

Rivjo:

Haven’t we been here before with useless protests? I mean sure, the replay official butchered the call on the onside kick but what does Oklahoma expect to happen? Should they line-up the players and reply it again on a mutual day off? That’s not happening, nor will the ruling be overturned, so just move on. Letting Oregon get back in the game in the first place, by allowing their offense to march up and down the field, had just a little bit to do with the loss too.

Burger:

Sports history is littered with teams that lost games they think they should have won due to poor officiating. You can go through the tape of every game to pull out missed or wrong calls. While the complaints and petitions to the league officials of both conferences were justified, asking for the game to be erased is over the top. The on-side kick was not the final play of the game. Even though the call was erroneous the Sooners still had an opportunity to stop the Ducks from scoring, and had a shot at a game winning field goal as time expired.


Very close call here, but the point will go to Rivjo, enjoy your face time.

Rivjo:

Welcome to the Winner’s Lounge. Speaking of winners, just who the heck is going to win the NL wild card? Does it matter? Are the glasses of the “contenders” half empty or full? They do have to play the Mets right? As the Mets steam-rolled all season long through the National League, it became a foregone conclusion that they were the cream of the crop. Well, all teams play for one reason and one reason alone. As Herm Edwards so vociferously reminded us a few years back, “You play to win the game!”

There are still a lot of excited fans in San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Philadelphia. They die a thousand deaths with each loss and experiencing a thousand dreams with each win. A berth in the playoffs is like a lottery ticket. As long as you have one, you have a chance. Good luck to all you baseball lovers wishing on a star. The best is yet to come. If you are a fan of the Royals, Pirates or some other struggling team, then by all means jump on the nearest good-looking bandwagon. It doesn’t make you a bad person. It makes you a fan looking to identify with something appealing, even if just on a temporary basis. Otherwise shut your traps if we see another Subway Series and go watch football instead.

See ya when I see ya!

(MUTE) I think Adande will sue you for using the lounge, Burger anything you want to add?

Burger: Thanks once again, NFL, for letting me play along today. This has been great.

The 2006 Ryder Cup between the defending cup champion European Team and the American contingent opens today at the K Club in Ireland. NBC golf analyst Johnny Miller said recently that this year’s American team is “the worse team we’ve ever fielded.” The Golf Channel’s Steve Duemig seems to think that Miller’s comments were made to stir the pot a little bit in order to rile up the US golfers. I disagree. First off, these are the best golfers in the world playing for their country after being embarrassed two years ago – they shouldn’t need any extra motivation than that. And I’m a little confused on how a team with the 1-2-3 ranked players in the world could be the ‘worse’ at anything. Exactly how could our team be better? What Americans left off the squad by the captain (Tom Lehman) could have made this better than the ‘worse’ with the top three in the world already on board? We may have four rookies on the squad but there are first timers in every cup and the Europeans had that many last time. No, this is more of the same old – same old from Miller. His on air arrogance is one of the most disdainful aspects of golf coverage, especially for this pristine event. He is widely known for being overly cynical and belittling in his commentary, beyond the norm for unbiased critique, and the players have little respect for him. When asked about his reaction to Miller’s comments, Chris DiMarco replied “I never agree with anything Johnny Miller says or writes.” Miller seems to me to be egotistical and is jealous of the modern players for their success and recognition. While he was widely regarded as talented and successful in his own career, he was always in the shadow of Jack and Watson, and never seems to get over that he isn’t getting the attention he thinks he’s due. His stinging barbs aimed toward Tiger and Phil and others are not within the scope of his duties, and as an American in a day when cheap shots toward Americans are in vogue the world over; I view his jaded pessimism as unprofessional and unpatriotic. He could have easily stated his views about the rookies on the team and our poor performances of late without using terms like ‘worse’ in regard to the squad of his own nation. I will tune in to cheer on our team and watch the compelling play by the best in the world from both sides; but I will also exercise my right to do as our good host Mr. NFL has done in this episode of Around The Horn – and use my MUTE button.

And I shall use my (MUTE) button after that book you just wrote. Neo, Wiseguy anything you want to add?

Wiseguy and Neo: (MUTE) Forget about it! That ends the second edition of Bloggers Around the Horn. If you interested in being a part of it, send me an email, it's over in the About me section.

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Welcome everyone to the first edition of the Bloggers Around the Horn. I'm your host, MrNFL, and I be scoring the banter tonight. A note that my comments will be in bold, everyone elses will not be. With that, lets get to the contestants. First we've got Bmoynahan, who's text will be Red,


Bmoynahan: Hey MrNFL, I hope my backup doesn't stab me in the leg to try to take my place on the show.
I hope not for your sake either. Next up we've got Bengals9, who's text will be Bengal Orange.

Bengals9: I'm just looking for a few good men.... to agree with about meaningless ####. Well done, you get an extra point (+1) 3rd, we've got Chorizo245, who will get green.

Chorizo:
Bonds is in a position where he can do worse next year and STILL beat Hank.I'm Kyle, a.k.a. "Chorizo245", a.k.a. The writer of "THE Blog, Presented by Nike ©". I like long walks on the beach... (MUTE) Schilling to Nike gets no points. Finally, we have Flying Pig, who will represent blue font.

Pig: I'm FlyingPig and I'm a 44 year old IT Manager and retired sailor. I live just outside Detroit with my wife of 21 years and two daughters...although one of them is away at Western Michigan University. I am a sports addict but I have never worn a wig, painted my face or bought a jersey with another mans name on the back. My favorite athletes of all time are Steve Yzerman, Muhammad Ali, Tiger Woods, Walter Payton and Joe Dumars. Love dogs, hate cats.
(MUTE) I didn't ask for your life story FP, Ok, let's start it up!

THE FIRST WORD!

The National League is heating up, many teams in the wild card race, and the NL West is still up for grabs. Gentlemen, give me your National League Playoff teams. We'll start with Bengals.

Bengals:
For the national league East i'm picking the Mets. Shocker huh? The best team in the national league and will probably represent the NL in the WS.
As for the West i'm picking the Padres. They're Peaking at just the right time and the Dodgers are slumping just a little bit. Jake Peavy is back to his dominate self and will carry them into the playoffs (+2)
For the Centeral im going with the Cardinals. They have been terrible as of late but thankfully for them so have the reds. With pujols on a tear as of late they will limp into the playoffs. (+1)
As for the Wild Card im picking the Phillies. Why? Simple really with Ryan Howard and Chase Utley having monster seasons the phillies have caught fire and as of right now are two back of the WC lead. Also take a look at the schedule. All of the rest of their games are teams that are under 500. (+3)

Lookin at the schedule I see, okay, Chorizo, your take?

Chorizo:
Ok. Right off the bat, I'm going to say the Padres DON'T make it. No Division, No, WC, Nothing. Also, the NL West, for that matter, will not have the LA Dodgers win the Division OR The Wild Card. I will recieve some NASTY hate mail for that. (+1)
Schedule-wise, The Absolute EASIEST Schedule remaining is for the Cincinatti
Reds. Their only remaining games against winning teams is against the Florida Marlins. And it's only three games. Yup. Three games. I'll
say it once more, Three games. Out of 16, that is. The Toughest goes to the Marlins. No more games against winning teams.
That's kinda sucky. (+3)

So, right now, the Marlins, Padres, and Dodgers are out of the race.

Next, we'll take a look at the Phillies. They probably have the second
easiest schedule, with their only remaining games against winning teams is 6
against the Marlins. Yup. Everyone LOVES the Marlins!! (+1)

Now, We'll look at the Astros. They've been in it for a better part of a
month, if that. I don't see them getting a WC 3-Peat.

So, we'll eliminate the Phillies and the Astros. Surprised? You
should be.

That leaves 2 teams.

The NL West winner.....THE GIANTS!!!!!! Yes, they're six RGAWT are
against
the Cardinals and the Dodgers. Ow. But, the other 10 are against the
Rockies, 4 on the Brewers, (Sorry, no love there), and the D-Backs.

The NL WC winner........THE REDS!!!!!!! Yup. Easiest schedule.
Makeable

ground. I see the Playoffs in the future. (+1)


Going out on a limb, ok. Flying Pig, what say you?

FP:
National League East is obviously the Mets who have already clinched.
The Central is St. Louis at 5 games up right now. The West will be the
Dodgers based on their pitching and bull pen. It was a huge move
getting Maddox with his playoff experience and ability to rub off on
the younger pitchers. The wild card will be the San Diego Padres. Once
again because of pitching and experience. Mike Piazza has lost a little
bat speed, but he is able to make the pitching staff better and is
still a good defensive catcher. (+5)


Short and sweet, I like that, Bmoynahan you?

Bmoynahan:

You know, I remember Bob Costas wrote a book a few years ago, called Fair Ball, in which he said that the creation of the wild card would take the excitement and suspense out of pennant races. That's true sometimes, such as last season's tie in the American League East when the Red Sox and Yankees finished with the same record and both made the playoffs, but no so in this case. (+2)

First, the NL West champion is going to be, for the second season in a row, the San Diego Padres, theylre hanging tough, lurking 1 &½ games behind the Dodgers after winning 8 of their last 11, and their pitching is solid. Best setup man in the league in Cla Meredith, best closer in Trevor Hoffman, and Jake Peavy has finally returned to his role as staff ace over the past two months. The key might actually be not how they fare in this weekend's four game set against the Dodgers, but how they do in seven September games against the Diamondbacks, against whom they are 4-8 so far this season. (+3)

Team number two? Could've been the Philadelphia Phillies - who have been absolutely carried by Ryan Howard over the past month, but they're only 7-5 in September, or the Florida Marlins, who might have the best starting rotation in the game next season, but I'm going with the Dodgers. They'll lose out on the division to the Padres, but a pitching staff that includes Brad Penny, Derek Lowe and future Hall of Famer Greg Maddux will get them into the postseason. (+2)

Ok, good stuff, onward.

Some great games this upcoming week in the NFL season, among them the Monday Nighter between the Steelers and Jags, the Cowboys and Redskins, and the Panthers vs Vikings among others. My question, of all of the Week 2 games, which will be the most interesting? We'll start with Flying Pig.

FP:
I would like to say that the Bears-Lions game will be the most interesting bacause of Roy Williams imitation of Rasheed Wallace with his guarentee. We now call him RoySHEED Williams. I think that the most interesting matchup will be Pittsburgh and Jacksonville. The Jags have flown under the radar for the last few seasons while sporting one of the best defenses in the game. Byron Leftwich reminds me of Dante Culpepper, only smarter. Leftwich is dangerous in the red zone because of his speed and size. Fred Taylor is healthy and Ernest Wilford is turning into a fine receiver. Pittsburgh brings their solid "all-around" team and they are the defending champs. This is the most intriguing game of the week. (+7)

Good stuff FP, next, Chorizo?

Chorizo:

The best NFL Game this weekend will be The Giants at The Eagles.
First. The Giants never saw McNabb last year. The Eagles have the advantage
there. Also, the Giants do NOT want to start out the season 0-2. That would be
extremely unfortunate, seeing as how they are stuck with the beasts from the
East. (+3)

On The Eagles side of the ball, McNabb had a great time last week, throwing
for 314 yards and 3 TDs. However, the Eagles OL won't have such a great
time with the pass rush. With Giants stars like Micheal Strahan and Osi
Umenyiora, McNabb will get sacked more than once. (+3)

I'm sorry for this not being long, but I have my typing deadlines. Ok, so I
don't, but Nike really wanted a photo shoot today. I couldn't. They got
mad. (-1)

The winner is....The Giants...24-16.


I'll have to Mute you for the shilling to Nike again. No schilling to sponsors allowed. Bmoyhanan, you?

Bmonyhan:

I was tempted to go with Chicago-Detroit after a Detroit player guaranteed a win this week, but it'll probably end up being a 21-3 yawner. Then, of course, there's Denver-Kansas City, usually a pretty good rivalry, but both teams suffered disappointing losses in Week 1 and the early season meeting removes some of the luster. Talk to me Week 12, when they play the late game on Thanksgiving Day. (+3)

There is one game with too many side stories to ignore: the New England Patriots heading into the Meadowlands to take on the New York Jets. Yeah, these teams play twice a year and Pats have taken eight of the last ten, but that was before Bill Belichick disciple Eric Mangini left New England to become Jets head coach. And before New England filed tampering charges against New York following the Deion Branch saga. And before New England was pushed to the limit last week by a Buffalo team that was widely regarded as inferior. Playground rules here: lots of issues and we're gonna settle 'em on the field. (+4)

Going out on a limb, interesting. Finally, Bengals?

Bengals:
The most interesting game of the week will be the Cowboys and Redskins. Both are coming off tough week one losses and will be looking to make a statement against each other. And let's not forget that it's probably the greatest rivalry in all of the NFL and the two teams absolutely hate each other. (+4)

I'll give you 3 for a good answer, but a MUTE for writing almost nothing.

There's the first horn, Buy or Sell next. As of now, FP has 12, Bengals has 9, Chorizo has 11, and Bmoynahan has 14. Commercial time!

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Ok, welcome back, it's time for Buy, or Sell.

First up, The Minnesota Twins are hot in a race with the White Sox and Tigers for 2 playoff spots. Unfortunatly for them, young ace Liriano is now out for the year. Bloggers, Buy or Sell the Twins still making the playoffs. Bengals?

Bengals:
I'm buying this. When Liriano went down on july 28th many said that would be the end of the Twins amazing run. But since then they have gone 24-17. And while Liriano was a major part of the Twins rotation Johan Santana has more than picked up the slack and is arguably the frontrunner for the AL Cy young. (+4)

Good stuff, Bmoynahan?

Bmoynahan:
I'm buying this, MrNFL, for two reasons: the Twins still have a great lineup with Morneau, Mauer, Cuddyer and Hunter mashing the ball, and they still have a guy named Johan Santana taking the ball every fifth day. And if you want a third reason, they were 20-14 after Liriano was hurt the first time, they didn't fall apart without him then, they won't fall apart without him now, especially with the Tigers still sliding. (+5)

Nice, FP?

FP:
BUY - the Twins are on fire and they still have Santana who shuts down everyone. They have Joe Nathan to close. Add in their formidable line up from top to bottom. Mauer and Morneau are monsters in the 3-4 hole and Torii Hunter is a perennial all star. Nick Punto is playing beyond anyones expectatins at third and the supporting cast is solid. (+4)

Ah, a Joe Nathan mention, Chorizo?

Chorizo: The Twins with Liriano had a great shot at the playoffs. Without...not so much. No matter what Joe Mauer and Johan Santana and Justin Morneau can give to this team, they will falll short in the race they call the AL Wild Card. Sell. (+1)

Ok, next!

One of the biggest rivalries in College Football takes place Saturday, pitting #11 Michigan against #2 Notre Dame. Buy or Sell the Irish beating Michigan? FP?

FP: BUY - This is tough. I'm from Michigan and you ask two in a row that affect my teams. Notre Dame is too strong on both sides of the ball and they play tough in South Bend. Michigan will play them tough and score some points, but Charlie Weiss motivates much better than Lloyd Carr. Look for Brady Quinn to light up the Michigan secondary. (+4)

Going agianst your team, tough thing to do, Chorizo?

Chorizo: I really don't like the Fighting Irish much, but I they do have my respect. It's at home, and Brady Quinn is still Brady Quinn, so I give them a Thumbs up over #11 Michigan. (+2)

Ok, Bengals?

Bengals:
I'm buying this as well. Norte Dame is overated in the polls as usual, but for that matter so is Michigan. Michigan Is a good team but nobody jumps out at you when you look at them. Also let's not forget that Norte Dame has beaten them twice in a row, and with their huge win against Penn State they will be riding high when Michigan comes into town. (+3)
Ok, and Bmoynahan?

Bmoynahan:
Sell, sell, sell. Notre Dame has proven the past two Saturdays that they are a very good football team. But Michigan is also 2-0, with a defense that is allowing just 29 rushing yards per game. If they can limit Notre Dame's ground game and prevent Heisman Trophy candidate Brady Quinn from making an appearance, they'll have a good shot at avenging last season's 17-10 loss. (+4)

Going against the favorites, gutsy. Onward...

The biggest game this Saturday may in fact not be ND and Michigan, as two SEC Giants, #6 LSU and #3 Auburn face off. Buy or Sell Auburn winning this game? Bmoynahan?

Bmoynahan:
I'm buying, listening to some of the Auburn players during the build-up to this game, they're hungry, not only to beat a rival team but also to show that they belong among the upper echelon of college programs. To them, two first place votes in the AP poll and one in the coaches poll is not enough. And the road to adding to those totals begins with LSU, a team that dealt them a tough, tough loss last season. It'll be a good one, but Auburn's gonna take it. (+3)

Ok, Chorizo?

Chorizo:
Auburn is not as good as they were last year. LSU is still in the SEC. Auburn may be too, but I don't see them winning. And I actually answered this one without Nike telling me!!!! Yay me!

(MUTE) Ok....FP?

FP:
BUY - Auburn at home against LSU. College game of the week. Number 3 going against #6. I would take the home team in this game and not bet money. This game will be decided in the fourth quarter. Both teams are strong and focused. Add in the revenge factor for Auburn who lost at LSU last year where Auburn lost by a field goal. The last two meetings have been decided by four points and both teams are feeling the National Championship ramifications. Look for Auburn to win by 4. THis is the biggest game of the weekend. (+5)

And Bengals?

Bengals: I'm selling this. This is a classic match between two SEC heavyweights, and will argueably be better than the OSU Texas game a week before. Both teams are pretty evenly matched on offense and defense so you look for a difference maker on either squad. Kenny Irons one of the best RB in the country but i think LSU's defense can contain him. So it'll all come down to Jamarcus Russell and he has always responded well under pressure (see 2005 capital one bowl) (+4)

Ok, there's the horn, first cut time. Flying Pig has 25, Bengals has 20, Bmoynahan has 23, and Chorizo has 14...Sorry Chorizo, you're the low man, see ya later. Out of Bounds up next...


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Welcome Back, two down here's how they stand. The Flying Porker leads with 25, Bmoynahan has 23, Bengals is Bringing Up the Rear with 20, and Chorizo had a meeting with the folks at Nike, He Gone!


OUT OF BOUNDS.

We've already mentioned two of the big college football games this week, however there are 5 other matchups also featuring 2 ranked teams. Which game is the biggest and why? Bengals, you start.

Bengals:

The biggest game of the week will be LSU and Auburn. The SEC is the best conference in the country and whenever two of the teams meet it is always a tightly contested game. Auburn has not forgotten the 2005 heartbreaker that they lost and will be looking for revenge. There is also the fact that Auburn and LSU are both in the top ten so that gives the game a little extra meaning. Kenny irons will be looking for a huge game to make him one of the frontrunners for the heisman. I see LSU winning a tight one (+4)

Ok, Flying Pig,

Well FP didn't write this seperately, he did answer it in buy or sell with this.

Auburn at home against LSU. College game of the week. Number 3 going against #6. I would take the home team in this game and not bet money. This game will be decided in the fourth quarter. Both teams are strong and focused. Add in the revenge factor for Auburn who lost at LSU last year where Auburn lost by a field goal. The last two meetings have been decided by four points and both teams are feeling the National Championship ramifications. Look for Auburn to win by 4. THis is the biggest game of the weekend.

At least Bengals re-wrote it, you get a MUTE, Bmoynahan?

Bmoynahan:

We've mentioned a couple of potentially great games so far, but the biggest game of the weekend might just be #19 Nebraska at #4 USC. Both of these teams are unbelievably dangerous on the offensive side of the ball, Nebraska is third in yards per game, USC eleventh, and neither defense is in the top twenty nationally, which means we could see a good old-fashioned shootout. (+2)

The Huskers use a nice, balanced offense, three backs with over 100 rushing yards through two games for a total of 256 per. The heart of the offense, however, is Zac Taylor, the senior quarterback who is currently completing 73 percent of his passes and has thrown seven touchdowns with one interception so far this season. His 184.2 passer rating is fourth highest for any 1-A quarterback with more than fifty passing attempts this season. (+2)

They've only played one game, but the Trojans also spread the ball around, gaining 192 yards on the ground and proving that they don't miss Reggie Bush and LenDale White as much as we all thought they might. Like Nebraska , the key could be their quarterback: John David Booty, a junior who completed 68 percent of his passes and looked very good in the opener against Arkansas . (+3)

This game is huge for both teams: Nebraska gets the opportunity to prove that they have returned to national prominence, while USC needs to show that they can beat a quality program after losing Bush, White and Matt Leinart. (+2)

Great job going out on a limb.

Well that's the horn, and it looks like Flying Pig is the low man. Whether he meant to or not, not answering the question seperately ends his day. Showdown up next, Bengals9 vs Bmoynahan. Two enter, and one wins some unimportant bragging rights.

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It's showdown time now, Bengals and Bmoynahan. Let's go.

The NFL ruled that Robert Geathers hit on Trent Green was not illegal. Do you agree?

Bengals: I agree. Geathers was pushed into Green by a kc lineman. also we have to remember that the games are not played in slo mo they're played at real speed and its hard to control what you're doing when you're going at full speed.

Bmoynahan:
I disagree, though Geathers was simply making a football play, he hit Green after the quarterback was off his feet, which the rule book says you cannot do. I'll also say this: to Geathers credit, he was clearly not trying to cause harm to Green: the replay shows that he turned his head and caught Green with the shoulder pads, which snapped Green's head into the turf. Still, ill intent is not required for it to be an illegal play.

I don't think it was illegal, point goes to Bengals. Onward.


The NASCAR Chase for the Cup starts this weekend, who ya got to win it all?

Bmoynahan:
I'm going with the guy who fought his way into this thing, Kasey Kahne. He tied for the second in poles won, his five race wins were the most of anybody this racing season and he finished tied for fifth with nine top five finishes. Throw in the fact that he had to battle just to get into the Chase and he's my favorite.

Bengals:
I'm going to go out on a limb and say whoever has the most points at the end of the season.As for who i think that will be it's Dale Jr. Every since he's been in the league he's been looking to live up to his father and i think this is the year he does it.

Bmoynahan brought the stats, he gets the point. And finally...

You've probably heard that the New York Islanders signed goalie Rick DiPietro to a 15 year deal. My question, How many of those years does he actually play?

Bengals:
I'll say around 6 or 7 of those years. If he becomes a bust after the mamoth contract there going to wait a little while before trading or realeasing him because that is a huge contract and be hard to get rid of. And if he becomes a success he's not going to want to stay with the ISLANDERS!

Bmoynahan:
Considering DiPietro won't turn 25 years old until next Tuesday, his chances of playing out the life of the contract don't look too bad. But if he does play all fifteen seasons, the end will almost certainly come with a team other than the Islanders. Don't believe me? I'll just say this: Magic Johnson, Wayne Gretzky, Alex Rodriguez.

Tough call, but I'll going to give the win to Bmoynahan. Face Time, give your victory speech...

Bmoynahan:
The University of New Hampshire walked onto the Northwestern campus last weekend and left with a convincing 34-17 win and the number one ranking in Division 1-AA. But the most important thing to come from this game was the continued solid performance of UNH wide receiver David Ball. Who's David Ball? Just a kid from Vermont who caught his 46th and 47th career touchdown passes on Saturday to move within three of tying Jerry Rice's all-time Division 1-AA record of fifty. Unrecruited out of high school to college great in three short years? Amazing.

Good stuff, Bengals anything you want to add?

Bengals:
I know we all probaly chuckled when we heard about the Backup Punter situation at Nothern colorado but it carries a message with it. We all tend to take sports a little to seriously some times and it's things like this that remind us that its only a game and things like this should never happen.

Well said. Well that's all for the Bloggers Around the Horn. It re-airs by clicking the Refresh button. I'm MrNFL, and I'm off to play Madden...

HORN!


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The Random Crap Rant! Kurt Angle, Koren Robinson, Jaguars, Bristol, Wild Card, and more!
Aug 27, 2006 | 9:48AM | report this
It's Random #### Rant time, let's go!

Koren Robinson most likely flushed what was left of his career right down the ####.  After driving drunk and running from cops, the Vikings have decided to release this guy.  And that is a good idea, Robinson apprently fell of the wagon, and didn't remain sober.  The Vikings were kind enough to give the guy a second chance, and he failed.  Will he get another shot in the NFL?  Maybe, he's likely suspended for this whole season, but someone is always looking for players.  Robinson has talent, and if he ever gets his life together, maybe he will get a third chance.  That's what drinking does, ruins lives.

Well the pre-season has claimed more vicitms, this time two of them are Jaguars.  Linebacker Mike Peterson and fullback/guy who will run when Taylor gets hurt again Greg Jones are both likely going to miss some regular season time.  Which reminds me, WHY DO WE PLAY 4 OF THESE POINTLESS GAMES????

Time for WWE!  (As many people click on the "back" button) Kurt Angle, who has been a huge part of the WWE the last couple years has been released.  Apprently, Angle is incredibly beat up physically, to the point that he gained an addiction to pain killers.  For now, the wrestling world is without Angle, which is a shame, because he was intense, and always gave his all.  It might not be the last we see him, but for now, he's done.

On to NASCAR, Matt Kenseth won last nights Bristol race for the second straight year.  Right now, Jimmie Johnson leads the standings, Kenseth is only 7 back.  And the nearest guy is 321 points away from Johnson.  If anyone else other than Johnson or Kenseth wins this title, it will be a robbery.  All the great finishes they had through 26 races could be meaningless if they have 1 engine failure, or one stupid guy wrecking them.  Well, that's today's NASCAR.

Well we have about a month left in the MLB season, and anything can still happen.   That's why I think the media is stupid by already handing divisions to certain teams.  The only team I think you can do that legitimatly is the Mets, because they lead by 14.5 games, but if they bomb it, they can still lose it.  People are already handing certain teams divisions when all it takes is one losing streak, and all of a sudden you are on the outside.

Finally, the media is stupid for already handing people the Heisman Trophy.  How many games have we played in the college football season?  SQADOOSH!  Now you can always guess, but saying "Oh yeah, Player A will win the Heisman for sure" is just stupid.  They are about as dumb as the preseason polls, since about half of those teams will end up stinking.   Wait until we've played a few games before handing people trophies.

Well, that's all for today.


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