Kahn Games
by: Kahn_Games
Lakers made the best deal
Feb 19, 2008 | 10:27AM | report this

In this wacky NBA season when as many as 10 teams are legitimate contenders to take the title away from the defending champion Spurs, three major stars have changed teams in the past two weeks. That unprecedented movement has changed the landscape of the already fierce competition in the Western Conference.

When the Mavericks finally acquired point guard Jason Kidd from the Nets along with Malik Allen and Antoine Wright in exchange for Devin Harris, Trenton Hassell, DeSagana Diop, Maurice Ager, retired forward Keith Van Horn, two first-round picks and $3 million, it gave the Mavs the tough leadership they’ve been lacking while on the brink of a title the past three seasons.

But is it bigger than the Suns’ acquisition of Shaquille O’Neal from the Heat for Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks on Feb. 6?

And how do either one of them compare to the Lakers receiving Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, Aaron McKie, two first-round draft choices and the rights to Marc Gasol on Feb. 4?

They obviously were all major moves with the intent being winning now. Consider for a moment the Suns (37-16) entered the All-Star break with the second-best record in the West – just percentage points behind the 36-15 Hornets, while the Lakers (35-17) have the third-best record, the Spurs (34-17) fourth and the Mavs (35-18) fifth. You want a great stretch run? This promises to be one of the most exciting races of the past 20 years considering nine teams are within 4½ games of the top spot in the West.

But to have players of this magnitude traded in such a short period of time – and some potentially busy days remain before the Feb. 21 trade deadline – it has to make you wonder if anything else is about to happen. Will the Nuggets make a move for Ron Artest or Sam Cassell? Will the Jazz look for help up front with the likes of Artest or Ben Wallace?

Considering the movement of Gasol, O’Neal and Kidd, who can doubt anything at this point?

And yet, there is a difference between the three big deals … and the Lakers win, big time.

Both the Mavs acquiring Kidd and the Suns getting O’Neal are gambles that may pay dividends in the short term, but they will suffer ramifications in the long run.

For the Mavs, giving up Harris and Diop is a questionable decision, if only because Kidd has maybe two more years of effectiveness after this season on legs that will turn 35 next month. At the same time, they will have lost the interior defense of Diop while sticking with Erick Dampier, who is at best good for a couple games in a row before he’s hurt, ineffective or just indifferent. And by the time Kidd is done, Harris has the potential to grow into an effective, lightning-quick point guard comparable to Tony Parker.

Kidd does give them the toughness and leadership that has prevented them from winning it all in recent years. Yes, they’re still near the top of the Western Conference with their record. But that’s because they have more overall talent that nearly every team in the league. They’re 12-14 on the road this season compared to 31-10 a year ago, and just how they would compete with the best of the West in the postseason is highly debatable. This move reeks of desperation, and yet with Kidd hitting the boards, distributing the ball and his relentless defense, they’re better suited for a playoff run this season. Beyond the 2008 playoffs, though, all bets are off.

The same goes for the Suns getting O’Neal. He’ll be 36 in three weeks. He’s played in only 32 games this season, as his 330-pound frame continues to slide down that slippery slope toward retirement. He has been more ineffective than his 14.2 points and 7.8 rebounds would indicate. His knees, hips, feet and quads – essentially his lower extremities, period – have virtually no tread left. Of course, he will be a factor on defense because he has been one of the greatest centers ever, knows the game, and at 7-1, 330, still takes up an enormous amount of space. He can pass the ball on offense and dunk.

But this still flies right in the face of coach Mike D’Antoni’s offense, while ignoring how ineffectual O’Neal is in the pick-and-roll or pick-and-pop, which is the bread and butter of what All-Star point guard Steve Nash does in the half-court offense.

That’s not to say Marion has more value than O’Neal. He had become a constant pain to the organization, whining in the locker room about shots, and wanting a huge extension that was far greater than his value. Nonetheless, he’s the guy who matched up defensively with the other team’s best scorer. He’s the one who made the steal or the block, grabbed the loose ball or the big rebound. Boris Diaw will run the floor, move the ball better and hit some open jumpers. But he doesn’t play at the same speed. Grant Hill has a little left in the tank, but not what Marion brought to the table either. And let’s not forget that Nash has back and shoulder issues at the age of 34.

This move maybe doesn’t have the same long-term ramifications as the Mavs giving up Harris and Diop, plus there’s always the outside shot that O’Neal really can get it together and have some juice left for a playoff run. But this is probably the last gasp for that to happen for the Big Question Mark. It’s not a bad bet, just another short-term gamble.

As for the Lakers, there was no gamble at all. The Grizzlies were tired of losing and paying Gasol so much money, and he was tired of being there. What the Lakers gave up to get an All-Star 7-footer amounted to a few shirts, two pairs of pants and some free airline tickets. The Lakers had already helped their depth in the off-season and the bench was remarkably effective around Kobe Bryant. Their problem isn’t the roster. It’s injuries. Not only did they lose young, blossoming 7-foot center Andrew Bynum to a knee injury that will keep him out another month, it’s impossible to know how the 20-year-old will respond to his first injury and the heat of a playoff run. And now what was considered a minor dislocation to the pinky finger on Bryant’s right hand has manifested into a torn ligament and surgery that would keep him out six weeks has been recommended.

This trade was a steal. But the injuries will make it difficult for the Lakers to win it all this season. Bryant has to make a decision quickly about what to do with his hand, and neither option is good. But even if they hang in there somehow and make a run at it this season, that’s not the point. They will be better next year with Bynum having another season of growth and playing next to Gasol and Lamar Odom, with Bryant and either Derek Fisher or Jordan Farmar at point – plus that swollen bench. So if the Lakers can’t quite get it together this spring, it’s easy to go on the record right now as saying the Lakers are the favorites to win the NBA title in 2009.

So which of the three teams made the best deal?

No contest … now if all those fair weather Lakers fans calling for general manager Mitch Kupchak’s head will please step forward, grab your ankles and take your medicine, we can get this over with. Mitch, will you please take the big paddle with the holes in it? And when we’re finished, the knuckleheads in L.A. will have no alternative but to look at you and respond, “Thank you sir, may I have another.”

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GR8UN54
Feb 19, 2008
11:11 AM
big rooster been around these parts to name these characters by name.

first to step into the circle of swat?

drum roll please*


austin burton, of DIZIME time to take your medicine.

front and center.

coronaboy10
Feb 19, 2008
11:44 AM
I think Kobe should go ahead and have the surgery. As much as I want them to suceed, I didnt expect them to contend this soon or early. He should get the surgery and get ready for a run next year. No sense in gambling on further injury. Plus, he'll be healed up for Beijing this summer if he does it now. LA is in a great position to be even better next year than they were this year. I just dont want Kobe to gamble on his future by playing if he should have the surgery. He's got at least 4-5 more years left, so he should concentrate on healing.

King68
Feb 19, 2008
11:59 AM
It has to be SAID...

If not this year, then next year.

SHAQ will win a championship for the SUNS. That's what he does. He would have gotten one for the Magic if they kept him long enough

CAMike
Feb 19, 2008
12:10 PM
Nice blog Mr. Kahn, but the winner in June will tell us who made the best deal!

Lakers won't make any more moves this year because Kup is gonna be busy giving swats!

bizmarks07
Feb 19, 2008
12:18 PM
Shaq won't win a da%mn thing !!! lol
The Suns are done son !!!. The Lakers will bust them in the second round and take on New Orleans for the western conf finals . Mark my word .And when that does happen , ask me who will win it all . I can see your future too , and it's full of cra%&p !! haha.

ElGalloGigante
Feb 19, 2008
12:21 PM
Lakers fan or not, the Lakers made the best move because the trade didn't jeopardize their future.

Second? The Suns. Their chances are directly tied to Nash, once he's done, they start rebuilding; might as well take the gamble on Shaq, win or lose, they're still in the same boat.

As for the Mavs, wow, desperation indeed. Harris is a phenomenal talent, and had they held onto him, they very well might be NBA Champions in the coming years. Now without him, the ability to reload in the coming drafts, and pieces of their amazing chemistry, its win now with Kidd, or bust. Cuban kinda bet the house.

Last edited by ElGalloGigante on February 19th at 12:26 PM.

WrZlt
Feb 19, 2008
12:31 PM
I like how getting O'neal has no long term ramifications for the Suns.... maybe because in 2-3 years they will only have Amare Stoudemire hahaha =).

bizmarks07
Feb 19, 2008
12:35 PM
:=)

Last edited by bizmarks07 on February 19th at 12:36 PM.

BluesDeluxe
Feb 19, 2008
12:41 PM
Mitch Krapchek makes one good move since Jerry West left and all of a sudden he's a genius?!?! c'mon! don't crown a winner just yet...the season has a long way to go.

JeffW1
Feb 19, 2008
12:59 PM
Totally agree the Lakers made out the best. They filled a need, got a younger player, and didn't give up much.

I like the Mavs' deal, too, but they're too soft to go far.

The Shaq deal was stupid. He's over the hill. Marion was unhappy, but still playing well. The Suns should've traded Stoudamire for Garnett and kept Kurt Thomas. Then they could have ran and played defense at the same time. Now they won't do either.

mrspydaman
Feb 19, 2008
1:00 PM
Trading for Ariza, Keeping Bynum, Adding Gasol, and taking out the trash so to speak is quite an accomplishment.

IceMan25
Feb 19, 2008
1:05 PM
It's strange that Shaq is suppose to be hurt, but as soon as they play the Lakers and Kobe he get well. NBA hyping were there is no hype. Let it go, I'm sure Shaq and Kobe has. I hope Kobe use his hurt pinky finger as an excuse and sit out the game and then there will be no story line to the game. I love Shaq but you can't compare him to Kobe and I don't even like Kobe and the Lakers. Kobe is now and Shaq has seen his best days come to and end. What's more Shaq want be guarding Kobe and Kobe want be guarding Shaq.

Franchise107
Feb 19, 2008
1:09 PM
Bynum dominates Amare

brownsuga08
Feb 19, 2008
1:23 PM
Having the surgery now would be the logical thing to do but we are talking about Kobe. A athlete who is very competitive and that is all he sees right now. Also his team being in the position to win it all and with that in mind he is willing to take all kinds of risk. Kobe doesn't know what the future may hold for this team next year so why not take advantage of this moment? He can score with either hand and he also has his team mates to rely on as well.

All the teams in both the West and the East have this competitive spirit. I can't wait until the playoffs get started. My thing is this... May the best team win!!!!

I say damn you folks when it comes to Shaq. Even if Shaq played a decent game you folks won't give the man credit. Nothing but blind haters.

Last edited by brownsuga08 on February 19th at 1:31 PM.

doncofan
Feb 19, 2008
1:27 PM
Bynum "dominates" Amare??? He plays Amare well, but "dominates"? I don't think so. Besides, tomorrow you will get a look at which of the Suns he will have to "dominate" for the rest of the season. If Kobe gets the surgery now, the Lakers have no chance of making the playoffs.

Last edited by doncofan on February 19th at 1:31 PM.

SexPanther10
Feb 19, 2008
1:42 PM
The whole league is losing their minds this year. Funny how there's no panic in the class of the league, the Spurs. They're sticking with their guns.

Last edited by SexPanther10 on February 19th at 1:43 PM.

LAFanDan
Feb 19, 2008
1:49 PM
I think Kobe should get the surgery. To risk that type of injury that could hamper his career could be devastating in the long run. He goes now and comes back in April, you still have a chance to have everything mesh at the right time. That will give Bynum time to get real healthy and Gasol can pick up the offense, Mihm will be back in a few weeks. Who know, they can still play .500 ball and get into 6 seed and go from there. I don't think any Laker fan thought the Lakers would be this position at the allstar break. Cut our losses and play for next year and who knows, we could get lucky if all goes well.

RD306
Feb 19, 2008
1:51 PM
2008 = The year of the Suns

chuck1868
Feb 19, 2008
1:59 PM
Could kahn not have just said that it is obvious that the Lakers got the better deal in the first sentence and then gone on to have said which of the other two deals is better. We all knew the Lakers conclusion.

kobe24mvp
Feb 19, 2008
2:04 PM
Blues, its not so much the trade he did make (though it is nice), its not trading Bynum & Farmar for some stupid deal in the offseason. I will take my medicine Mitch, you made The Lake Show contenders for many years to come. Thank you, thank you, for not trading AB and AF.

lakerfan75
Feb 19, 2008
2:06 PM
I still think Jerry West played a major part the Memphis, L.A. deal!

cottonpickin
Feb 19, 2008
2:10 PM
It's not like Kidd is in a wheelchair. I dont think the Mavs will do much in the playoffs this year but I do think they have their best opportunity next year. Given the rest of this year for Dirk, Kidd, Howard and Terry to gel and some key acquisitions in the offseason, I like this deal better for next years playoff run.

Plus we might resign Diop next year as his contract is expiring. We got rid of Hassell, who is a liability on both ends of the floor. Now we need to get rid of George plug some reliable spot up shooters and next years looking pretty good for us Mavs fans.

I did like Devin though, kind of sad to see him and Diop go. But I'm hoping we can at least get Diop back in the offseason

BleedPRPL&GLD
Feb 19, 2008
2:12 PM
The Feenix Shuns can't win a title maaann!?!?, Playoff basketball is not their strong suit. They are entertaining and Nash is great, but as a franchise they are paralell with the Clippers - same amount of titles anyway. The Spurs are the champs until dethroned. The Lakers, (if at full strength come playoff time) have four 7 footers (that's 28 fouls to throw at Timmy D, Shaq & Dirk), lots of young active bodies, perimeter shooting, good defense and the cold blooded killer to ice the game in crunch time, or at least draw multiple defenders and dish to one of many options once they commit. Dallas is soft inside, the Hornets are too young yet ( although CP3 should deservedly get some MPV votes ) KB24 WILL bring another ring, maybe more, back to The City of Angels before he hangs it up. The real shame is if Kobe retires without a regular season MVP award. He SHOULD have one already (Nash did deserve the first one he got, not the second - nobody expected the Lakers to be as good as they were then, let alone NOW) but there is no middle ground when it comes to Kobe. People love him or hate him, with most of the haters being sportswriters with voting rights. HE KNOWS the ONLY way for him to get the respect he deserves is to get his clamps on another trophy. History will tell the tale of his greatness - he is the most like Mike yet. LeBron is tight on his coattails though. Every day is truly like Christmas in Lakerland these days... Get well soon Bynum & Trevor...the postseason awaits.

P.S. - Thank God for Jerry West, you know his fingerprints are ALL OVER the Gasol trade - once a

Last edited by BleedPRPL&GLD on February 19th at 5:08 PM.

jdani0510
Feb 19, 2008
2:22 PM
This has to be one of the biggest mistakes Cuban has made. The first 2 was letting Nash and Finley get away. Like Kahn said, Dallas wasn't thinking long term solution. I love the Mavericks and have been there through thick and thin, but this wasn't a smart move at all.

Devin is going to grow into an All-Star point guard in the next year or two. Damp doesn't have much left, neither does Kidd, 2 years at the most. If you've noticed, his numbers dropped from last year. I wouldn't be as upset if Dallas had kept Harris and Diop or kept Harris and got another Center.

It pains me to say this, but I don't think Dallas is going to go far in the playoffs this year or next. If I proven wrong, I will own up to my mistakes.

BluesDeluxe
Feb 19, 2008
2:23 PM
Kobe24...but we're also talking about a man who traded All-Star Caron Butler for Kwame Brown.

kobe24mvp
Feb 19, 2008
2:34 PM
True, but it looks like it is working out in the end. If I had to watch Kobe or Bynum dominate the league in another jersey, I would boycott the NBA forever. A lot of people wanted him to make a move involving Bynum, any move, and he didn't bow to the pressure. And now we look solid for awhile. Thank you again Mitch

bigbenlowpez
Feb 19, 2008
2:37 PM
the western conference sure does look stronger then ever...as a Laker fan i would like to believe they have what it takes to get to the finals this yr. but with Kobe being hurt it probably won't happen. the one team that no one is talking about, and the reason all these trades started taking place in the first place is the Spurs. they haven't been healthy all yr. and there still right there. this is going to be one hell of a second half!!!

InnocentBystander
Feb 19, 2008
2:38 PM
The Kidd trade has a short shelf life. He's still playing at a high level but they gave up good young talent. They'll regret it when they don't make the conference finals. They lose Diop and Harris, both with a lot of upside and gain a good point guard starting his decline. NJ got the best of this deal.

The Suns have as much a chance of winning the championship as Shaq still fitting into John Stockton's shorts! Shaq replaces Marion in the line-up. Compare their stats. Marion wins hands down. This was a bad trade. Shaq wants to be 1000%. Suns we'll be lucky if he reaches 50% of the 1999/2000 Shaq. The Heat got the best of this deal.

The Lakers trade is already paying dividends now and the future is bright for years. The Lakers gave up a point guard that couldn't get minutes, Kwame Brown, and two draft picks, none of which would have an impact now. They are playing great with Gasol. Their young enough that they won't miss the draft picks too much.

The Lakers trade is superior to the others. If they can get past injuries, they'll be in the conference finals for years.

brownsuga08
Feb 19, 2008
2:45 PM
I try not to judge any one player in the NBA except for one time and that was Stephon Mabury when he said he wanted to play in Europe because he felt that the people over there appreciated him better then us here in the States. That really made me upset. Anyway, I am really amazed at how some many folks are in love with Kobe and the Lakers now that they have a winning team. Now, for those of you that have been dieheart Laker fans from day one I applaud you. It is the ones that are jumping on the bandwagon so to speak that are killing me. You folks know who you are. When Kobe was extremely upset over the summer so many of you hated this kid now you are embracing him like he is a foster child. You dieheart Laker fans watch out for these fakers as soon as something goes wrong with the Lakers watch how many folks jump ship. Please keep your eye out on these bandwagers and faker, because I know you and I'm watching you like a HAWK!

Bystander... You thought of that all by yourself. That the Lakers trade is superior to all others. Well damn thank you for informing the rest of us. Dah... Who would have guess that?

Last edited by brownsuga08 on February 19th at 2:50 PM.

scorpiordhj
Feb 19, 2008
2:46 PM
Golden State will go on a winning streak. They will be taken for granted by most, and they will show the league what the Suns where trying to do....Don Nelson is a great coach, and he has the players to run his system the way he wants.

brians1225
Feb 19, 2008
2:49 PM
stupid kahn!! why is it 2008 or all bets off for mavs? we still have the same team next year and with one year of maturity, we can still be up there next year. it's more like 2009 and then we'll see what happens.

also, you can't declare lakers the winner already. i personally believe they are the biggest winner too, but that's cuz we saw Gasol play and we haven't even seen Shaq nor Kidd! Just wait up and then see what happens and write this stupid article.

kobeclone24
Feb 19, 2008
2:55 PM
I gotta admit: the Pau Gasol aquisition was NOT a trade, that was a steal. Face it, LA has a legit shot because Phil Jackson said during the championship run from 2000-02 that the regular season is MEANINGLESS (there is proof to this quote, ahem, the Phoenix Suns). As long as the Lakers lose only a reasonable amount of games and the recoveries of Kobe, Bynum, and Trevor Ariza go smooth, the Lakers can do it. I think if there is a "missing link", it would be a forward that could be better at running the Triangle than Odom (no disrepect to Lamar)

As for the two other big trades- the Nets-Mavs trade would come up next in the most value. As the people in this room said it: these two trades are very temporary as they may last only about two seasons. I've heard all of the promises of Shaq making a difference for the Suns, but how much can he do in about 3-minute rotations?

Last edited by kobeclone24 on February 19th at 3:02 PM.

Gath
Feb 19, 2008
2:57 PM
Lakers in this article by a landslide, they didn't give up much and got a former allstar in Gasol? How do the western teams keep getting so loaded? Don't they have the same salary cap as the Eastern? Well, at least my lowly Hawks got a point guard now in Mike Bibby.

brownsuga08
Feb 19, 2008
2:58 PM
scorpior.... I was raised in the Bay Area but I don't live there any longer. I am still a Warrior fan by heart and I feel that Nellie is doing a great job he always does. Our Warriors cannot play or defend with the likes of the Lakers, Utah or the Suns. I have alot of faith in them but we have to look at it realistic. It can't be done!

doublething1
Feb 19, 2008
3:03 PM
y r the suns even in this its the stupidist trade ever done in the history of the game and second only to the red sox tradeing babe but shaq doesnt even remotely fit in to the suns fast paced offense wait no maybe he will help cuz by the time the suns score on a fast break he'll be at the other end of the court playing defense

Kozanski
Feb 19, 2008
3:04 PM
Hey BluesDeluxe, Kupchak hasn't made just one good move, he has made a whole string of them that not have the Lakers contending. It was under his watch that Bynum was drafted, Farmar was drafted, Crittendon was drafted (he was a big key to the trade), he got Ariza for almost nothing, re-signed Kobe, then didn't trade him when he wanted out for 40 cents on the dollar. He got both Odom and Butler for Shaq, which is a good return given what has gone down in trades since then. And of course, finally came the Gasol trade. His one mistake, and it was a big one, for giving up Butler for Brown, and now that has been corrected.

sevencomeeleven
Feb 19, 2008
3:09 PM
Where's utahjazzfan8 today? Hey, buddy - read this article. Especially these two points - that I made LAST WEEK when you said I didn't know anything about sports...it was when you called me an 'axxxhole.'

Have fun.

"And let’s not forget that Nash has back and shoulder issues at the age of 34"

"The same goes for the Suns getting O’Neal. He’ll be 36 in three weeks. He’s played in only 32 games this season, as his 330-pound frame continues to slide down that slippery slope toward retirement. He has been more ineffective than his 14.2 points and 7.8 rebounds would indicate. His knees, hips, feet and quads – essentially his lower extremities, period – have virtually no tread left."

loves it

CAMike
Feb 19, 2008
3:11 PM
WrZit... along with some 20 Million a year in cap space to sign the likes of Jefferson, Bosh, or Bynum

Angry Dwarf
Feb 19, 2008
3:13 PM
Its going to be a great last couple of months of the season no matter what happens.

As a Laker fan I want to play the Suns in the playoffs. If we dont make it to the finals I would love to take out the Suns with Shaq. I still think the Spurs are the team to beat and will be strong and tough once the playoffs are here.

terMETS
Feb 19, 2008
3:20 PM
all this great collage basketball going one its a freaking merical anyone even watches the nba anymore. its like a freaking walk through of a basketball game. altho i must admitt superman D.H. is doing everything in his power to bring the excitement back

knightvt
Feb 19, 2008
3:55 PM
I was reading through these comments and what Kobeclone24 said about Lamar. has no clue Lamar has more talent than most at his postion. and now that the pressure of the number two option will only make him better he is the only player and I mean only player on the lakers ( maybe walton ) who could average a triple double. and believe me I love Kobe. but the Lakers will go as lamar goes he is the key to them winning.kobe, gasol, and andrew are the main guys but the need Lamar
I think Next yr they will dominat.. Gooo lakers

The_City
Feb 19, 2008
3:56 PM
Will everyone stop saying how great Mitch Kupchak is. Yes, he got Gasol for nothing. That doesn't make him a great GM. It makes Memphis morons. Anyone would have accepted Gasol for the garbage that the Lakers gave up. It does not make you a great GM when you are the beneficiary of an obvious firesale. Its like if Lebron were a free agent and said I want to play for LAL. Would signing him make Kupchak a genius. No it wouldn't. I think the NBA needs to step in and investigate this trade. It is so one sided it makes no sense. Look at what NJ got for Kidd. ALOT. At least one rising star. I'm dead serious when I say the NBA had a hand in LAL getting Gasol and its total BS. Everytime they have a down period a superstar lands on their doorstep. Kareen, then Shaq and Kobe and now this. Way too often to be a coincidence. Makes me want to not watch when its obvious the glamour franchise will always get whatever it needs.

Hoops4Eva
Feb 19, 2008
4:11 PM
I will never call Mitch Kupchak 'Cupcake' again!
I will never call Mitch Kupchak 'Cupcake' again!
I will never call Mitch Kupchak 'Cupcake' again!

OK now I'm ready for my medicine. Thank you sir, may I have another?

Yes Mitch fooled us all, including Kobe Bryant who was fed up. Mitch is the master of keeping a poker-face and not revealing his moves. We all thought inactivity on the trade front equated to lack of basketballs to make big trades. But give credit not only for getting Gasol, but another great deal in giving up Cook and Evans for Ariza. Yes Kupchack you've more than redeemed yourself and all that questioned you truly do need to take our place on the paddle-line for our medicine...

GR8UN54
Feb 19, 2008
4:44 PM
mista kahn--

fantastic job photoshopping that photo in your blog.

the distant NBA fan might actually believe that J.J. Red_ick saw time on the hardwood.

but having him contesting a shot like that is a bit of a stretch don't you think?

slshusker
Feb 19, 2008
5:14 PM
Ok, let's say it...ready, go...
None of these big West trades mean squat without winning the whole enchilada.
The Lakers made the best trade of the three.

Shaq in Phoenix! That's still a head scratcher.

Today, Cuban stated that he'd been in discussions with NJ since before the Pau trade. Whatevuh! Two first rounders was steep. The Mavs have done well in the draft compared to others.

Celtics#34TheTruth
Feb 19, 2008
5:23 PM
The suns will not win a ring. If anyone in the west wins a ring, it's the lakers.

Lakers vs. Celtics finals. Can't wait.

MOSHERMIKE
Feb 19, 2008
5:31 PM
All this B.S. about forfeiting your future to win now is assinine. Win NOW!!! The Mavs will win NOW and continue to win in the future as long as they have Cuban willing to pony up and a coach that can put the peices together.

In the off season the lakers were DONE. The Heat still had a chance and the Celtics last year blew. With a little creative thinking and the desire to win NOW there is always a chance. Who in this blog would have said the East better at the biginning of the season

jibajabba
Feb 19, 2008
5:47 PM
LA wins hands down, hopefully Denver does not pull a Dallas and waste young talent to get ron artest

sportman1
Feb 19, 2008
5:50 PM
I had to comment on this...I'm a laker fan (born and raised) for life but whoever thinks its the year for the suns is smoking some heavy stuff. First of all they got a beat up, run down Shaq, second, do you realize how much they run!!! If Shaq plays every game from here on out "i will join the Taliban"

jibajabba
Feb 19, 2008
5:50 PM
GM's restrain themselves from only thinking about WINNING NOW because they do not want their Organizations to end up like the New York Knicks. Big Contracts, Big Egos, Small numbers in the win colum.

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