Last season they became the first team in 14 years to reach the conference finals for the fifth consecutive season. This time around, and after an early stumble, they are on track to be the first NBA team in 35 years to make it six in a row.
If you guessed the San Antonio Spurs, you’d be wrong.
We’re talking about the Detroit Pistons, who after losing three of four to close out a Western Conference swing in November, have won six in a row and 15 of 18 to solidify themselves at 21-7 and remain in close pursuit of the Boston Celtics for the top seed in the East.
It doesn’t get much more consistent than that, regardless of what you think of the rest of the conference. The last team to make the East finals five years in succession was the Bulls (1989-93) – although the Pistons (1987-91) also did it in that era as well. But to do it six years in a row, you have to go back to the Los Angeles Lakers (1968-73), when there were just nine teams in the Western Conference as opposed to the 15 in each conference today.
The strange part is, three of the first four seasons the Pistons got to the conference finals it was with three different coaches – Rick Carlisle, Larry Brown and incumbent Flip Saunders. Generally speaking, that sort of revolving door is relegated to the league’s bottom-feeders, but in this case there were extenuating circumstances for president of basketball operations Joe Dumars, the rock of the franchise.
Only Chauncey Billups, Richard Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince (then a rookie who played sparingly), are still on the roster from Carlisle’s 2002-03 team that ascended so quickly. And were it not for a personality conflict with owner Bill Davidson’s president of business operations, Tom Wilson, Carlisle may been around a lot longer. Otherwise, they may have avoided Brown’s bizarre but predictable cameo appearance that did happen to include the NBA title in 2004.
Nonetheless, Saunders is in his third season as coach since coming over from Minnesota, and to say the Pistons have lost their focus as a great defensive-oriented team would be woefully misleading. They’ve held their last seven opponents to less than 87 or fewer points, and with the trio of Billups, Hamilton and Prince still the core, Rasheed Wallace and Antonio McDyess complete one of the most consistently effective starting lineups in the game today.
Even more impressive is how they’ve blown open the last three games against the Nets, Rockets and Grizzlies by coming out of halftime with an offensive eruption while holding their opponents to under 20 points in the third quarter.
"Our defense is getting to be extremely solid,” Saunders said. “We’ve turned it up in the third quarter and we’ve been doing that a lot lately.”
What’s different about this team is the bench, with Dumars pushing Saunders to cut down on the minutes that the starting five have logged – more than any other group in the league the past three-plus seasons. It isn’t easy as they have gradually brought some youth into the mix, but starters’ minutes are down. Forward Jason Maxiell, while raw offensively, is a classic rugged rebounder with exceedingly long arms and blocks nearly 1.5 shots a game, while shooters Jarvis Hayes and Flip Murray have combined for nearly 15.0 points a game from the wings, and rookie guard Aaron Afflalo figures to make more of an impact scoring as the season progresses.
What’s even better news is they just got heralded No. 1 draft choice Rodney Stuckey back, who fractured his non-shooting left hand in the last preseason game. After missing the first 25 games, he also figures to gradually make an impact the second half of the season in the backcourt.
And while athletic young forward Amir Johnson continues to disappoint by his uneven play, Dumars just recently unloaded the big contract of Nazr Mohammed to Charlotte and added the big body of Primoz Brezec. If nothing else, he’ll relieve some minutes from Wallace and McDyess in the post and provide salary cap relief for the coming offseason.
Already they have dominated the improved Eastern Conference, beating the Celtics in Boston and winning 13 of 15 so far. The irony is both losses have come at the hands of the Bulls and their former Pistons teammate Ben Wallace, but that may just have been a coincidence as the Bulls are obviously mired in their own mess.
More to the point about the Pistons is the focus on their late playoff fades the last two seasons. They have certainly appeared to be a result of exhaustion – Billups and Prince in particular. Then again, we won’t know until we get to the spring and see what gives. Nonetheless, ‘Sheed came to camp in the best shape in years, and there is no more solid guy in the league than McDyess, who missed the 2004 title – coming a year later – and was so emotionally shattered by their seven-game loss to the Spurs in 2005.
But as much as the NBA world is enthralled by the new Celtics and their return to grace, and the love so many seem to have with all the runners out West, chances are these Pistons have the experience and versatility to unsettle the Celtics in a best-of-seven series, with the Spurs inevitably waiting again.
And considering the past five years, who in their right mind would underestimate De-troit basketball?
Shots from the perimeter
Meanwhile out West, the Warriors continue to make noise behind their superior point guard Baron Davis, and the obvious infusion that Stephen Jackson – Captain Jack as it were – has brought since his suspension at the beginning of the season. Since their 0-6 start, they are 17-6, but it is the consistent production and leadership of Davis that has been rock solid. Averaging 21.9 points, 8.0 assists, 2.52 steals and 4.9 rebounds, if he can stay healthy, they will be a factor this season without the unflattering Cinderella moniker.
Just consider:
They’ve already had two five-game road trips, and they were 4-1 in the first one and 3-2 on the second. That’s the first time since the 1973-74 season they’ve had winning records in back-to-back five-game trips.
They are 9-7 on the road, that’s the first time they’ve begun a season better than .500 since they were 10-6 during the 1975-76 season.
And their 17-12 start is the best they’ve had since they were 21-8, some 16 years ago with the “Run TMC” crew of general manger Chris Mullin, Tim Hardaway and Mitch Richmond.
That’s not to say Davis, Jackson and young Monta Ellis are or will be as effective as those guys were by the end of this season, but they may. And perhaps more importantly is Mullin has put together a better group around this explosive trio than he had with his partners a generation ago. Not surprisingly, the most obvious thing they have in common is coach Don Nelson’s presence and his love for the unorthodox.
Just as it was then and holds true now, it also makes their greatest strength their most obvious failing – speed and recklessness.
For the first time since LeBron James was a freshman in high school – in March of 2000 – the Cavaliers won in Dallas. James had 24 points, 8 rebounds and 7 assists to lead the Cavs to their 88-81 win Thursday over the Mavs despite getting battered and bruised along the way. The win was the Cavs second in a row (after beating the Heat on Christmas Day) and it’s the first time they’ve won two in a row since November. But more important to them is the win moved them into the eighth seed in the East and climbing. Once Sasha Pavlovic and Anderson Varejao get into sync following their contract delays, they should gain some momentum and play more consistently as a team … until general manager Danny Ferry opens the door to make a deal for a point guard.
While we’re mentioning the Mavericks, they have lost two in a row after seemingly getting back on course with a five-game winning streak. In the loss to the Cavs, Dirk Nowitzki had 20 rebounds for the first time in nearly five years, but he’s got problems with his heavily taped shooting hand. But at least he’s got an excuse. The always streaky Jason Terry has been on a down cycle again – making just 3-of-22 shots from the field the past two games. That, along with the inability to defend big guards is the reason why the rumors about Jason Kidd returning to the Mavs won’t stop.
The Celtics have taken their road show West for the first time, ripped the Kings by 20 on Wednesday, then Ray Allen struggled in his return to Seattle with just 10 points, but it didn’t prevent a 104-96 win over the Sonics. Paul Pierce responded to Allen’s woes with his first breakout game of the season and 37 points, while the unwaveringly consistent KG kept things together with 23 points and 14 rebounds. To put things in perspective for the improvement of the Celtics and the reason Danny Ainge is a lock for executive of the year … they are now 24-3. Remember, they finished last season with 24 wins – the second worst record in franchise history.
And finally, it now appears official that Bulls general manager John Paxson will stick with career assistant Jim Boylan as coach for the rest of the season after firing Scott Skiles on Christmas Eve. Whether or not the Bulls quit on Skiles, he quit on them, or both isn’t as relevant as the obvious factor that this team is a mismatched set and Paxson has plenty of work ahead of him. Both Luol Deng and Ben Gordon are having sub-par seasons after turning down contract offers, Kirk Hinrich is having his worst season, they’re stuck with Ben Wallace’s bloated contract, and they still don’t have a dependable go-to guy or a low-post threat.
In other words, he still has a ton of work to do and the Bulls are a classic of example of a how much easier it is to take a horrible team and make them competitive, then take a competitive team to the next level and make them elite. They’re stuck in neutral and there is no track record that says Paxson has the wherewithal to straight things out.
I go back and forth on the Celtics and Pistons. I wanted KG badly on the Lakers, was crushed when they couldn't get a deal down, felt that if the big 3 Celtics stayed healthy they couldn't miss the east finals even with me at PG and was glad to see the Celtics Green back to meaning something.
I'm a huge Chauncey Billups fan as I'm a fan of anyone who bounced from team to team and was generally thought to be someone maybe of the Chucky Atkins level of PG but who kept working and working and working and brought his game to this level. I can't help but smile at Sheed when he stomps his foot and FINALLY walks away most times. You know he don't wanna.
I give both teams their props. But one of the voices keeps standing on a chair and yelling "yeah well, try playing in the west with San Antonio, Phoenix, Dallas and the rest. the Jazz are stinking up the yard but they got great players. Denver has a boatload of name players. The warriors might not even make the playoffs and they got game. Heck the Lakers have to play someone good virtually every night. And the Hawks would make the playoffs at 14-12 in the east.
So I guess it's all relative. We'll be watching the Celtics closely this trip thru. Yes the won two but the won against the doormats of the West.
The pistons looked unbeatable in last years regular season too,and then they ran into a buzzsaw(my cavs),I know they are a TOUGH bunch,but there window is closing.
Whomever assesses the power rankings for the NBA really doesn't know basketball!
Mavs @ # 1???
The Detroit Pistons have been to the finals twice with two different coaches and got shafted with NBA "feel good" LeBron story last year.
You tell me who the best team in the NBA really is... Conference finals and two NBA finals in the last three years>?
Pistons are the best team in all of Basketball. End of Story. Like it or not!
I wish the cavs would have tried to sign chauncey in the offseason,i know he struggled against them in playoffs(2 yrs in a row),but his heart and toughness is what we need right now.
The Pistons need a point guard? hey dude I got a guy named Sasha Vujoic or something like or even Mr Clutch hinself Derek .04 Fisher you can have for Chauncey Billups. Hell, take em both.
I don't care if the Pistons will go to East finals because Celtics will beat the #### out of them in the East and then they will beat West team for the title. Celts are unstoppable this season. They already won two games in the West to beat the skeptics and they will win many more games in the road. Celts are not required to beat everybody in the road, they just have to win as much as they can without overplaying their Big 3 to keep them healthy and strong for playoffs.
hate to say it ptony but it don't even look like your cavs are gonna make the playoffs this year. and even they said the pistons beat themselves in the eastern conference finals last year but they'd take it.
all you "experts" did you read the celtics are 1-15 against the perennial champion pistons. and the celts WILL lose again on Jan 5. then what will you clowns have to say?
The Pistons have a GREAT point guard. The way Billups dominated Rondo (Celtics) in their meeting will be a factor come playoff time (should the two meet). Billups is a force for many PG's in the NBA. Rondo might need a few more bricks in his pocket.
For those of you that dont recall,the cavs almost knocked the pistons off two seasons ago as well,last years series was not close...The bulls were my pick this year to at least win the east but they have looked worse than the cavs...orlando is too young...i still think the cavs can turn the season around,if not then it will detroit-boston in the eastern conference finals.
aldaa, they haven't played any top quality teams in the west. The lakers are good this year with bynum playing much stronger. The nuggets and jazz have to improve to get higher than a 6 or 7 spot. The only thing I have seen from the Cletics is they can beat almost everyone in the east and the bad or mid .500 teams in the west. I haven't seen the spurs and suns numbers yet.
Big deal about the Pistons. The Lakers did it eight years in a row--1982-1989--with stiffer competition. The NBA has been fixed since 1991 when the Bulls won their first championship. Now, it is all about money. Whoever brings in the most money to the NBA wins, period. Only six teams have won the NBA championship in the last 20 years: Lakers, Detroit, Bulls, Houston, Spurs and Miami
Celtics-Pistons is the East Finals that I've dreamed about since before I can remember. The Pistons are rock solid all the way around but too many post season disappearing acts coupled with the sheer will and drive of the new Celts to finally get to the Big Show leads me to believe that my boys in green are going to end up representing the East in the Finals.
"Whoever brings in the most money to the NBA wins, period".. I guess if you're referering to ticket sales that MIGHT hold some water. But why wouldnt you except fans to buy tickets to see top teams play? If you aren't talking about ticket sales.. well then I just dont know.
"Whoever brings in the most money to the NBA wins, period. Only six teams have won the NBA championship in the last 20 years: Lakers, Detroit, Bulls, Houston, Spurs and Miami "
Yeah right. If that were true the Spurs would not keep playing in the finals and winning. Every time they are in the finals they set a new record low for viewers because they are so boring to watch, good... Yes, but no entertainment value. Same with Detroit.
You want entertainment and the most watched NBA finals in a decade or more? Try the Lakers vs the Celtics this year. Now that will bring some excitment back not to mention $$$ to the NBA!!!
The Pistons--like them or not--have consistenly battled for the Eastern Conference Championship. They might not win them all but at least Detroit has a team that is there year in and out. Living in Chicago, I know what that excitement was like and I really miss it. Khan is correct, the Pistons are the team that represents the Eastern Conference.
Couldn't be more right about Detroit! It's trick that year after year we continue to make the Eastern Confrence championship series.
I happen to enjoy being under the radar, and I believe it is much better for the team that way.
Let everyon continue to ride Boston. The fact still remains the same.... NONE of the "BIG THREE" have had any success in the playoffs before. And they sure as hell won't in playoff atmosphere games this spring!
if i recall correctly kahn you are one of those who bashed the pistons when they got eliminated by the cavs last year.....yet another reason i take ur articles lightly....your constantly shifting stance....i.e. trashing kobe today and great compliment the next....bah....
I'm a Pistons fan but I still think they will blow it again in the playoffs until they demonstrate otherwise. I think by the end of the year Orlando will prove to be the best team in the East...they are just younger and hungrier than anyone else. I would like to see the Pistons make a key trade by mid-season to put them over the top...without one I think they crash and burn again. Remember, they are just one Rasheed Wallace injury away from having no inside game.
thanks for great article on the pistons, who have been the best and most consistent nba team over the past 20 years. and by the way, whoever makes the power rankings for foxsports is a joke- the mavs at #1, give me a break, they are soft and chokers, i would take the spurs and pistons over them anyday. could people please get over this love affair with these west coast teams-not all that glitters is gold, and these teams won't win championships (that includes you phoenix, golden state, nuggets, and mavs). defense and half-court execution wins championships.
pistons are the best forget all u spur fans -.- and i dont think the celtics will make it to the champoinship sorry cetlic fans my prediction is suns and pistons
Note to Mike Kahn: Revisit your December 21 article on the Celtic's flaws. Oh, and get a quote from Kobe on that. Four games in five days in the vaunted Western Conference. Four wins, including a 19 point win over the Lakers 24 hours after beating the Jazz.
Okay, Mike. Better revisit your December 20 column on the Celts. And might want to put a quote from Kobe in there. 19 point blowout of the Lakers, despite stitches and body blocks, just 24 hours after routing Utah. 4 for 4 in five nights.
I am a huge fan of the Detroit Pistons and I am for life.I have absolutely,0 confidence in coach Flip Saunders.He was gifted with a championship team and has failed to bring it home to Detroit for the second consecutive year.It was hard enough to deal with losing to Miami as Coach Riley added another notch to his belt in route to the championship two years ago!!But to lose to Cleveland last year?!?!I still have a bad taste in my mouth over that meltdown!He is a decent coach during the regular season,but he is very mediocre in the post season!Let's face it,he has proven nothing...nothing!I could careless about winning the division or the eastern conference,though,they are nice achievements.If you don't have any championship hardware to show for it,it means nothing!Nobody remembers the loser.I just wish Dumars would hire someone from the Bad Boys era...like Bill Laimbeer or Vinnie Johnson.Someone who knows how to win in the post season where it counts!I just hate to see another remarkable season go sown the toilet because we can't seem to get over the final hump in post season play.Flip cannot and will not get it done!!!Remember this blog in the post season and give me my props when it it proven to be correct.I hate it to be right at the expense of my favorite and well-talented Pistons team,but the truth is the light!Sorry Flip but you will be run this time when you don't get it done!Who do you think you are...Millen?!
jr2jr, I agree losing to Cleveland last year was ugly, but it wasn't all Flip's fault. Cleveland played their hearts out, so much so they had nothing left in the final! Chauncey and Rasheed both played poorly, Prince was just awful. Now, with Maxiel and McDyess getting significant time, and the two rookies looking good, things should be different this year come playoff time. Celts will be their competition barring injury, their defensive game is scary.
The Pitsons will not beat the Celtics in the Eastern Finals this year. Chancy Bliups and Rashaad Walters are both a step slow and Detrot does not have a center. Who is their center anyway? Rasto Nasterovich? Doc Rivers has the Celtics humming and they wont stop until the reach the NBA Championship. The (child prodigy) Danny Ainge may make a few more moves in the front office and that will seal the deal. Big Baby Glen Davis and Rajon Rondo will lead the next generation of the Celtics. Look for at least 5 championships in the next 7 years. I dont think that this can be argued.