josh q. public
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CC Sabathia? Are You Kidding Me?
Nov 14, 2007 | 8:03AM | report this

Josh Q. Public:  It is the spirit and not the form of law that keeps justice alive.  -Earl Warren

Public Service Announcement:  OK, here we go!  I don’t like this.  I don’t like this one bit.  I do not like it in a house.  I do not like it with a mouse.  I do not like it here or there.  I do not like it anywhere.  You may say I’m a homer.  You may say I’m out of order.  I say, you’re out of order!  You’re out of order!  The whole trial is out of order!  Boom Boom Beckett was robbed.  He was jobbed.  He was rump swabbed.  Just like Pedro was robbed by I-Rod oh so many years ago.  I don’t care that in the last game of the season Beckett looked more like Matt Young than he did Cy Young.  I don’t care that CC pitched more innings than Boom Boom.  I don’t care that he threw fifteen more strikeouts.  I don’t care what they say about us anyway.  I don’t care about that.  I care that Josh Boom Boom Beckett was the best pitcher in the American League this year.  Who would you want on the hill?  King of the Hill.  And just so you know, Beckett  struck out (.96) per inning while Sabathia struck out even fewer, a paltry (.84) per inning.  So put that in your pipe and smoke it.  Boom Boom Beckett walked only forty batters all season.  Boom Boom Beckett only allowed seventeen bombs.  Boom Boom Beckett Beckett limited opponents to a .245 batting average.  Boom Boom Beckett held opponents to .207 with runners in scoring position.  He outshined Sabathia in all these categories.  Outdevined Sabathia.  Out walked the line Sabathia.  Doesn’t that count for something?  Doesn’t twenty games?  I remember when twenty games meant something.  I remember when that was how a pitcher was measured.  Boy, the way Glenn Miller played.  Songs that made the Hit Parade.  Guys like us, we had it made.  Those were the days.  Not so much anymore.  Not for Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News or Jorge Ortiz of USA Today.  I guess twenty games means bupkus to them.  Those Bozos each listed Sabathia, Lackey and Fausto Carmona on their ballots.  No Boom Boom Beckett in sight.  That just ain’t right.  Makes you wanna fight.  Fight for your right.  To party!   No partying now.  Not after this travesty.  Not after this mockery.   This trial is a travesty.  It’s a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham.  I guess you can’t have everything.

Public Acknowledgements:  Dr. Seuss, And Justice For All, Weezer, Mike Judge, The Brockton Enterprise, All In The Family, Beastie Boys and Woody Allen

Public Spectacle:

Peace out homies.  Six Two and Even!

16 Comments | Add a comment   categories: MLB, MLB, baseball, Cy Young, Josh Beckett, cc sabathia
 
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ReverendRhythm
Nov 14, 2007
8:37 AM
They probably should have just given CC a pie. He would have been happier.

JoshQPublic
Nov 14, 2007
8:45 AM
rev- i'm incensed right now. incensed, i say!

NorthSideFan
Nov 14, 2007
8:53 AM
CC had 4 more starts. 4 more... no injuries, no crying about a hurt finger.

CC had one less victory - only one and he won 9 games after a Tribe loss.

.06 ERA better than Beckett.

37 walks to Beckett's 40 - in 41 more innings!

More Ks - Period.

Only allowed 3 more dingers than Beckett so don't winge about 17. (41 more innings remember?)

CC is a lefty, facing a vast majority of right handed hitters. Playing the odds, Beckett, facing a majority of right handed hitters, should have the upperhand.

CC was the deserving winner.

Close as it should have been, the right man won. (Playoffs don't count. If they did, you would have something here. But they don't, so you don't.)

The_Sports_Intellectual
Nov 14, 2007
9:16 AM
Nice to see Northside and his well-thought-out argument on here, as my reasoning is, shall we say, a bit more simple-minded: I say, since Boston teams seem to be winning everything these days, let someone else have a chance!

4everRED
Nov 14, 2007
9:49 AM
JoshQ, you have a very entertaining blog entry here. The problem is, its just plain wrong and intellectually dishonest. Beckett is a great pitcher. The Cy vote probably should have been closer. And he is quite possibly the best "big game" hurler of our generation. That being said, there is no way that he was robbed of this REGULAR SEASON award. Deserving, yes (as with Fausto Carmona); however, another factor I consider is that the Cleveland bullpen blew more saves for CC than Boston's bullpen did for Beckett, and CC went through a horrible stretch where he received paltry run support but he pitched brilliantly (not that he complained about it). Your point is well taken about 20-game winners though. There have been years where the Cy winner had 2 or 3 fewer wins than the actual league leader and I've questioned the outcome. But please do not suggest that Beckett was robbed.

pumpdude
Nov 14, 2007
9:59 AM
I told my wife, as soon as I heard the news, that "Josh is going to be PlSSED OFF!!" She was like..."Who the hell is Josh?" lol

I'm thinking Melvin get COY. But, I wouldn't be suprised if he doesn't considering some of the bone-head awards I've seen already.

Six (shots) Two (tokes) Even (odds)

JoshQPublic
Nov 14, 2007
10:01 AM
To All:

One question. Who would you have rather had on the mound?

4everRED
Nov 14, 2007
10:06 AM
In a playoff game- no question, Beckett. But that's not what the Cy Young is given for.

JoshQPublic
Nov 14, 2007
10:39 AM
pump- of course i'm pissed. wouldnt ypu be?

justme24
Nov 14, 2007
10:40 AM
I agree with NorthSideFan completely, took the words right out of my mouth! And again let's not forget about the difference in run support that they got. Josh Beckett pitching on the Cleveland team wouldn't have had the numbers C.C. did. 10 straight starts only giving up 2 runs or fewer from July 24 to Sept 8 and only went 4-6. It isn't his fault his line up couldn't come up with 3 runs. If Sabathia had the run support that Josh did we could be looking at 20 plus wins! C.C. had to deal with far more adversity than Beckett did, C.C. had to make every start and make quality starts because outside of Carmona you never knew what you were going to get from the other starters. And I haven't even brought up the fact that the Indians had Joe Borowski as the closer, you never knew what kind of game he was gonna have. Josh is an amazing pitcher, no doubt and in the playoffs he's unhittable, but for a regular season award C.C. earned it. No pitcher meant more to his team during the regular season then C.C. did for the Indians, no question about that.

Last edited by justme24 on November 14th at 10:42 AM.

justme24
Nov 14, 2007
10:43 AM
And in case you didn’t read my post here’s an excerpt..

I would also like to point out that in voting for the Players Choice Awards for Pitcher of the Year, voted on by the players, players who faced both C.C. and Josh, chose C.C. as the more dominant pitcher! The people who would know better than those of the Baseball Writers' Association of America, the people that stepped into the batters box and had to face these two great pitchers, chose C.C.! In the end that’s all I really need to know!

Here are some thoughts from an article on MLB.com:

“Though that 20th victory eluded him, Sabathia polished his Cy Young credentials in other ways. He ranked second in the AL in complete games (four), fifth in strikeouts, tied for third in winning percentage (.731) and finished sixth in walks and hits per inning pitched (1.14). Toss in his second-place finish in the win column, and SABATHIA WAS THE ONLY AL PITCHER TO RANK IN THE TOP SIX IN EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES!"

And I'm not saying that Beckett wasn't deserving, I would have been fine with it either way, because I have the utmost respect for the skill Josh Beckett has. I just think C.C. was equally deserving and should gets some respect!

Last edited by justme24 on November 14th at 11:05 AM.

ReverendRhythm
Nov 14, 2007
11:22 AM
Wasn't CC even quoted as saying he thought Beckett was going to win the award?

freshfromthedeli
Nov 14, 2007
12:35 PM
Good valid points, but I still think that between the two of them, Cy Young was a toss-up. They were both very deserving.

sizemore24mvp
Nov 14, 2007
3:22 PM
ur not dr seuss so shut up! an josh beckett is not the cy toung winner so shut up! im tired of u boston fans! u won the world series! but thats not enough is it?! ur second basemen won rookie of the year! but thats not enough is it?! cleveland hasnt won big since '48. c.c. sabathia is a true ace, and fat as he may b hes still more durable than josh beckett cryin over his hurt finger! wut about sabathia's legs? they hav 2 lug around 800 pounds everyday! c.c. had 19 wins but he should hav about 24. lyk northsidefan sed, if playoffs counted n this, he would hav won it, but they dont, SO SHUT UP U STUCK UP LIL BOSTON BAD WORD!!!

poland springs
Nov 16, 2007
11:23 AM
c.c might of had better numbers but look at the alcs. sabathia choked twice. and Beckett pitched better in the two games IN THE A.L.C.S. Beckett played better than Sabathia when it really mattered.
Are you kiding me NorthSideFan playoffs always count more than the regular season duh!!!

claret1995
Nov 29, 2007
6:22 AM
Poland Springs

Playoff and/or world series never have nor never will count in determining Cy Youngb or aany other regular season awards. If you understood that you wouldn't write that kind of post

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