America's "other" team?
Jun 16, 2006 | 12:00PM | report this
We feel we have been somewhat remiss in our coverage of America’s “other” national team. Yes, we know there are a host of soccer fans out there who are angered by the fact that the USA seemingly cannot enjoy home advantage at stadia whenever it plays Mexico but it seems only fair that with some 30% of the population speaking Spanish and coming from a Latino background (such as, say, Puerto Rico, my wife reminds me) that we pay attention to a team a lot of you care about too. Even if we’re super-lame and are only getting to it in the half-hour before kick-off.

[We have a good reason for this, actually. Two, really. The first is, the boss is coming in to town tonight, so half of us is out at the airport, schlepping him back here, and we’re making dinner. We also had to wash the sheets in the spare bedroom. The second is that half of your reporting cadre has Crohn’s disease, and the heat and humidity are making him miserable and petulant. He cannot have sausages, and this is disappointing.]

Now, Mexico can lock up its fifth straight second-round berth with a win over Angola tonight. (Mexico was booted out of the 1990 Cup for that silly business with over-age players in the 1988 Olympic Games; we never tire of the detail that the players busted were twins… whose papers had different ages on them.) Missing is Jared Borgetti, who tore a hamstring but was rather ineffective in the first game anyway after spending his season flunking out at Bolton. Instead, Francisco Fonseca and Omar Bravo are likely to pair up top, which was a profitable combo in their first game against Iran.

By all measures, this should be a fairly easy game for the Tricolores. Angola played well against the one team you’d expect them to, former colonists Portugal, but this is a team that has little left in the tank. Both teams are used to the heat and humidity so no advantage there. In fact, the only thing missing for Mexico will by manager Ricardo La Volpe’s cigarettes, which FIFA kindly asked him to refrain from puffing on anxiously while on the bench. We’ll see if he does.

By the way, a word about that whole home-field advantage thing for the USA, since we brought it up. Did you know that since 1998, USA soccer attendance has taken a nose-dive? Yep. We used to see 50, 60,000 people at games, and now the ceiling seems to be 20-30K. In fact, our pal Grahame Jones noted in the L.A. Times that the U.S. attracted a total of just 80,522 fans to its three World Cup send-off games. Sounds like a lot, huh? Well, Australia's send-off game, against Greece at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, drew a crowd of 95,103.

While we once agreed with the notion that the USA should schedule its games outside the reach of Mexico’s fans (and U.S. Soccer will argue that it has sacrificed crowds to do precisely that, an argument which we don’t entirely buy), it seems clear that the Anglo fans who raised the ruckus in the first place, aren’t showing up. We think there are several reasons for this, but that’s another column/post.

Last but not least, Univision is taking ESPN’s scalp on this tournament — they’re averaging 11% higher ratings than ESPN2, which had its highest rating of the year with the USA-Czech Republic game. How much of that is Anglo crossover? Wish we knew. We also are curious how many of you Anglos will watch America’s “other” team tonight. After all, your neighbours most likely are.
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ibroxloyal1
Jun 16, 2006
12:15 PM
Definately watching mexico, and I wont be watching in on ESPN, either :-)

daf
Jun 16, 2006
12:33 PM
One Anglo crossover here, although I am watching the "other team" on ESPNHD right now. As I don't get ESPN2HD, the inane babbling of Balboa, not to mention the popping, lip smacking and other sounds that emanate from his mic [I think he's trying to eat it] has driven me to brush up on my Espanol. With the exception of the all brit announcing crew, ESPN's announcing teams vacillate between pedestrian and jaw-droppingly awful.

Last edited by daf on June 16th at 12:34 PM.

abjdmba
Jun 16, 2006
12:50 PM
Anglo watching on Univision right now! All it took was one game with Dave O'Brien to sour me on ABC/ESPN. The rest of them are no better. Now if they would unleash Giorgio Chinaglia like the have in the past, that would be interesting.

Last edited by abjdmba on June 16th at 12:51 PM.

robbeddard
Jun 16, 2006
12:55 PM
Funnily enough the company I work for is showing the games in the cafeterias across the company. I got lunch earlier, and the Mexico game is on, via Univision.

Every other game has been on one of the ESPN channels with their horrendous commentary teams.

abjdmba
Jun 16, 2006
1:01 PM
RE: Mexico - I can't quite decide whether I want them to succeed or not. I am drawn to their games (like drivers passing a wreck on the road), but I can't help rooting against them v. Angola. All I know is that I can't wait for the US game result tomorrow, this waiting see who will show up is killing me.

beti
Jun 16, 2006
1:10 PM
I guess Jamie, We should just give up then in the US. We sold out here in Raleigh. I could'nt get a ticket for the US Jamaica game.
But if these numbers are this low in attendance then I guess the critics are right.

ibroxloyal1
Jun 16, 2006
1:22 PM
Talking of attendances Jamie, did you realize that we hit 1,000,000 fans attending games so far in the finals yesterday.
So far, after the Holland game today, we're at 1,156,646 after 22 games. That's an average of over 52,000 a game.

JamieTrecker
Jun 16, 2006
1:38 PM
Beti: No one says "give up;" however, you see a lot of empty seats out there. Raleigh was an exception: What about RFK, Hartford or LA?

parody
Jun 16, 2006
1:43 PM
I know one person locally (Chicago) who is watching ESPN. The bulk of my friends are all watching Univision with some watching the local Korean channel for replays of games they may have missed. Speaking just for me and not the rest of my admittedly unscientific sample group, watching the games with commentary in a language I barely understand is actually more fun.

Last edited by parody on June 16th at 1:46 PM.

beti
Jun 16, 2006
2:09 PM
I guess I did'nt notice the empty seats! I thought the sport was growing in popularity. I guess I was stunned and dissapointed with the numbers.
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I speak Spanish and I am having issues with Univision this year. Their commentary sucks! I am not sure where the old commentators they had a few WC back are at these days. IT was a good combo of emotional play-by-play and great analysis. I guess the best way to watch this would be Univision/local Mexican radio combo. I am not sure why we have a 10 second delay on ESPN though.

The_Gaffer
Jun 16, 2006
6:38 PM
Jamie:

One important point about the Australia versus Greece friendly played in Melbourne in front of 90,000+ fans: There's a huge amount of Greeks that live in Melbourne.

If the US played Mexico in a friendly in LA, then they'd probably get a 90,000+ crowd at the Rose Bowl.

If the US fails to beat Italy on Saturday, I really feel that US Soccer needs to work pretty hard to regain the faith and support of US fans in the States. Maybe a series of friendlies throughout the States would be necessary to regain our interest?

Cheers,
The Gaffer
www.EPLTalk.com

Last edited by The_Gaffer on June 16th at 6:39 PM.

Kobefan
Jun 16, 2006
8:00 PM
Hey Jamie!! I think that US Soccer needs to improve a lot before we're ready for true World level play. I think America has a problem with not using all the ethnic elements here in the States,especially Latino and European(including Armenian) fans of Football. I think there's a sentimental tie to the "mother" country,but a chance for 2nd,3rd,and 4th generation kids would be a boost to play against the truly World's Best and not some US marketing crapola shoved truckolad size down our throats. We almost didn't let Cuba here to play a true World's Baseball championship!!!???? I think your Foxmate,The Gaffer, has an interesting thought on a "friendly" game between Mexico and perhaps other Latin American countries to expand his thought???

I think he forgets the ethnic makeup here in the So. California area!!!LOL LOL If the Coliseum(93,000 seating capacity) was to host such a match,let alone the Rose Bowl in Pasadena(103,000 seats) most of the fans would probably cheer at first for the visitors due to so many different cultures here in L.A. Even Brits and Brazilians come out at funny hours for L.A. residents to watch football matches live at restaurants and pubs here. I wouldn't mind catching a Brazil WC match,but my wife would probably think I'm there to check out scantily clad ladies cheering on their team!!!LOL LOL Who says one can't get seriously injured with football??!!

dxeph
Jun 16, 2006
11:15 PM
I'm watching Univision. I don't have cable or satellite.

MJR
Jun 17, 2006
12:30 AM
No Anglo crossover here but, I would much rather watch Univision than to listen to the blithering drivel spewing from most of the ESPN commentators. It took 15 seconds for one commentator to figure out the name of a world class European player and then suddenly discovered he had been substituted 10 minutes ago. And, what the heck is a "NUTMEG"!?!?!?!? are these ESPN guys trying to re-invent the game????

Another reason for watching Univision is for the quality of the television picture. Again ESPN missed out here as well.....#### poor quality at best. Even if I had ESPNHD, I would have watched Univision. The game commentators are rediculous, inaccurate, negative and don't know or care to understand the game at all.

Please, please, please ..........I beg you FOX Soccer Channel, bid to televise the next World Cup!! They will come!!!!!

BoliNica
Jun 18, 2006
9:57 AM
OMG...I always watch Univision - might switch over for a short bit if I am curious.
Yesterday I watched the replay of US game on ESPN after watching it live on Univision. From the broadcast team I felt I was watching the 2nd through 7th innings of two last place MLB teams late in the season.
A total inability to really give any perspective on the drama and intensity going on in the field - something the Univision guys obviosly did. something every soccer fan in the world got.

BoliNica
Jun 18, 2006
9:58 AM
OMG...I always watch Univision - might switch over for a short bit if I am curious.
Yesterday I watched the replay of US game on ESPN after watching it live on Univision. From the broadcast team I felt I was watching the 2nd through 7th innings of two last place MLB teams late in the season.
A total inability to really give any perspective on the drama and intensity going on in the field - something the Univision guys obviosly did. something every soccer fan in the world got.

radfootball
Jun 19, 2006
4:21 PM
Hey there, I have seen the games on ESPN and it seems that they are trying to get me to sleep. The problem is if we really analyze the comentators not only in soccer, but also in football, basketball I´d risk to say that probably 70% are very lame and lack of lifting you into the game. And if we add this to soccer where you put these same guys to coment on a sport they don´t try to understand well we viewers get bummed with very very horrible and sucky comentator crews for the games. If I were owner of ESPN I would fire these guys.

chubaka
Jun 21, 2006
9:42 PM
I think Univision could start by having someonw that could really scream goooooooooal. It makes a big difference. Due to work I have had to listen to some games in AM radio. The original guy that screamed Goooooooooal Andres Cator narrates the ganes. For some reason he is not in Univision. But I swear some times I'd rather watch TV in Univision with the volume down and listen to Cantor on AM radio. he is that good. If you only listen to him (of course in spanish) you do not have to watch the game. He paints the perfect picture in your head and makes you bite your nails when a team is close to scoring. I could actually say you do not have to speak spanish to listen to this guy and know exactly what is going on. May be ESPN should talk to him since Univision seems to have left him out.

Last edited by chubaka on June 21st at 9:43 PM.

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