Bears Should Keep Benson Count me in the minority of Bears fans who think that they should not release RB Cedric Benson, even in spite of his most recent run-in with the law. The Bears drafted the back whom they obviously believe will carry the bulk of the load in Matt Forte from Tulane. First, I don't think it's ever a good idea to hand a starting job to a rookie unless the team is in full-blown rebuilding mode, and the Bears think they can compete in the NFC North, especially with the retirement of a certain quarterback famous for a number '4' on his jersey. It is quite obvious at this time that Benson will never pan out to be the back the Bears thought he would be when they drafted him fourth overall in 2005, but that doesn't mean he can't be productive. Benson had a couple of halfway decent seasons as a backup to Thomas Jones before taking the starting reigns last season. He's also the best available insurance policy in case Forte gets hurt or dissapoints.
Announcers have duty to disclose the No-Hitter I was driving home late last night listening to the White Sox-Twins radio broadcast on Chicago's WSCR 670 AM on Tuesday. Late in the game, the Sox had a significant lead, but the Twins, I knew, had one run on the board. The White Sox radio team of Ed Farmer and Steve Stone, declined to announce over the waves that Sox starting pitcher Gavin Floyd had yet to yield a hit to Minnesota. As a White Sox fan, I sure would have appreciated the knowledge of history possibly in the making. I definitely would have listened more intently, as my mind often wonders while listening to baseball games on the radio. Farmer, the play-by-play man, instead said "One run and two errors for the Twins," instead of blurting out "Gavin Floyd has a no-hitter." It never dawned on me, until Justin Morneau doubled to left center field and Farmer finally came clean, that the White Sox had come this close to one of baseball's remarkable feats. While other players should not mess around with their teammate's head by making him aware of the situation, it is the announcer's job to tell the whole story, and Floyd's possible no-no was a big part of the picture.
Chiefs' fans don't expect to win Don't worry, I'm not going to beat a dead horse. This isn't going to be a rant on how much I hate Carl Peterson, or Herm Edwards. This is actually to point out that fans of the Kansas City Chiefs have grown content with losing. In recent blogs (in which I have lambasted Chief's management and called for their heads on sticks outside Arrowhead Stadium) other Chiefs' fans have accused me of over-reacting (among many other things). One Chiefs' fan commented that "13 [draft] picks this year and [next year's draft] should give [the Chiefs] a chance to compete for the AFC West title in 2010." Another posted "Even if they do finish 8-8, I will know that they are on there [sic] to greatness the following year." There was also talk of "getting ready for a championship run," and one guy even said "I don't mind being a .500 team as long as we beat the few teams we need to (you know, division rivals)." Chiefs' fans are pathetic in this manner. They are ok with rebuilding, and then two or three years later making a run at winning the division. They are ok with finishing .500 as long as they beat the stupid Raiders. Frankly, they are ok with mediocrity. Quite simply, any sports fan content with mediocrity for any reason is a loser. Sports isn't about competing for the division, beating your division rivals, or making a run at a championship. Sports are about winning the championship. If that doesn't happen, the season was a failure, but fans of the Chiefs often seem to overlook the biggest, most important part of sports.
I know a few Bears fans that should read your section on attitude of Chiefs' fans...
Benson isn't going anywhere, he's under contract to the Bears and that's a big deal with them. He most likely will be set free when his contract is up.
Ah, baseball's unspoken no no jinx... I tend to agree that a radio team needs to keep their audience informed just because...
As a Falcon fan I agree with you exactly on rebuilding. While every other #### was loving the release of all the veterans so they have space to rebuild I hated it. The problem I have is that we mostly got rid of people who were at least decent like Grady Jackson, Alge Crumpler, DeAngelo Hall while keeping useless people like Joey Harrington. WTF? I don't want to wait for winning. I want it now. For some reason ever since the franchise was created, it cannot put a consistent good team on the field. One year high hope next year down in the pits. It annoys me. Sorry for ranting but I know how you feel. I want to win the Super Bowl. That is the destination.
The Chiefs are going the wrong way. Carl Peterson has been their 20 YEARS and we have to rebuild? Hes should be fired. Clark Hunt is a wuss. Hes not a leader. SELL THE TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!
You so called fans are terrible. This blog is terrible if it is coming from a so called Chiefs fan. We know Peterson sucks and edwards has his hands full with this roster. The problem with the media and fo fair weather fans is that you write about what everyone else can already see. What can't be seen is the future and how this draft picks will possible change the direction of the franchise. Before Tony G. and Edwards were at the helm the chiefs org. faired the same problem. We Chief fans do expect to when, and when now. We don't like anything less than a playoff run even if it ends premature. When the schedule comes out for the upcoming season what real fan doesn't circle at least 10 possible wins based on potential. Every team has ups and downs in the pursuit of a championship, but real fans grit and bear it and then celebrate when we win the crip. We suffer through the lossing seasons and disappointing losses but still remain fans. No one said rebuilding would be fun or successful because we know it takes effort. True fans know that its not always about winning and lossing, sometimes its the way you play the game.
I completely disagree with your opinion on Chiefs fans. The Chiefs have the best fans in the NFL because we are not fair weather fans like the ones with other losing teams (cough cough, St. Louis Rams). Herm Edwards is trying to build a dynasty. I would much rather have long-term Super Bowl contention than another 20 years of getting to the playoffs and losing the first game. You don't know much about football if you think the Chiefs are making a mistake by not trying to go from 4-12 to the Super Bowl in one year, because it's highly unlikely.
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while I agree with you about wanting to win as a Chiefs fan, I believe that most fans of any professional team are smart fans. Fans nowadays are way more educated as with all the info. that's out on the internet. For example, a quick check on the records for the Colts and Pats* dynasties (notice the *) showed that during the late 90's, both these teams suffered through 3-13 season multiple times. That's when their rebuilding started and had several successful drafts. I'm tired of importing players from teams that don't want them to the Chiefs. I want home-grown kids that are drafted by the Chiefs and ends up staying with us. I'm not rooting for mediocrity, I'm just patient enough for the Chiefs to really start heading in a new direction. I'm not saying that Carl P. and Herm gets a free pass, but I would at least give them a chance to accomplish what they're trying to do. Win now isn't always the best way to build a team. Look at the Redskins and Raiders....
I am a not a Chiefs fan but let me just say one thing there are no worse fans in the NFL than Bronco fans during the season if they lose one game they want to get rid of the coach and team but when they win one game they are unstoppable and going to win the super bowl. From what I can see outside looking in is that Chiefs fans love their team through thick and thin you can’t hate that.
The problem in KC is not the fans. It is with management. King Carl is still on his 5 year plan to get to the Super Bowl. He has been there almost 20 years. Clark, I hope you can count. Five and 20 don't add up. As long as, King Carl is in place, KC will never win. He wants to fill the seats and make money for the organization. Every time we get a great player, King Carl runs them out of town. John Tait and Jared Allen to name a few.
I like Herm. He has his flaws but he has an eye for talent. We have had good drafts with him. Better than cry baby Vermeil. Herm can win in KC. He has to correct the King Carl mess first.
A Chiefs fan.....who thinks Chiefs' Fans are pathetic.......does that make you pathetic? I dislike Herm Edwards conservative style but I do respect that he admits that he has to rebuild a team with young players. This is the first time since I can remember that the Chiefs are rebuilding. Every other year....they picked up free agent veterans.........Steve Deburg, Elvis Grbac, Joe Montana, Marcus Allen, Andre Rison, Rich Gannon, Trent Green, Priest Holmes, Ty Law, Patrick Surtain, Eddie Kennison, and I can name a whole lot more. Picking up free agent veterans obviously has not done the Chiefs any good. Why not take a different direction? I am a die hard Chiefs fan and I will never turn my back on them........16-0........or 0-16........yeah maybe the Chiefs management is horrible......but you can't talk about the Chiefs' Fans. There the most loyal fans in the NFL along with the Packers. Two tough places to play. Again....how are you gonna say that Chiefs fans are pathetic and you're one?
Hey everybody, thanks for reading and for the comments. This is going to be a blanket statement to everybody who commented about the Chiefs. I do agree with the rebuilding. It needed to be done, and so far, it's off to a halfway decent start (can't completely judge all these rookies until they start playing some games). But the topic here wasn't whether or not they should rebuild and if they are doing a good job. The topic was the fans themselves. Re-read those quotes that were posted on my blog by ACTUAL FANS OF THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS. If you read those quotes and agree with them, then you are a flat out loser. Losers are ok with winning the division and losers are ok with making a playoff run. Winners are disappointed or some cases flat out disgusted by just making the playoffs and losing in the first round, which is what Kansas City has done 3 times in the last 12 years--the ONLY 3 times they've made the playoffs in that span. If anybody has read my Chief's posts in the past, you'll know that I don't like Carl Peterson, but for a change, this post was not about him (though he is also a loser too).
JCScheffres, get a new headshot, it looks like your having problems on the john. Oh and by the way, you're not a chiefs fan. The people you "quoted" must represent all of arrowhead. Why don't you quote me, "I want to post the KC star in a frame above my bed that reads, 'CHIEFS WORLD CHAMPS'!" - end qoute. Get out of your mom's basement.
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Apart from Benson's little problem with law enforcement at present. I think the Bears can ill afford to get rid of him. They're in a situation at present where the team just hasn't measured up to what has been expected of them. And someone please tell me the hell why Lovie Smith still craves the smell of Rex Grossman in his locker room ?
Edwards and Peterson .....
The loveable twosome Ernie and Bert of Sesame Street.
Carl Peterson are the NFL's answer to Ernie and Bert from Sesame Street !
Would anyone really be able to tell the difference if they were placed side by side ? Other than the fact that Bert and Ernie are puppets and are part one of the longest running kids' educational program on public television.
If I recall in your last KC rant, you said you wished that you hoped that KC would be worse than 4-12 this season so they would get rid of the HC and GM. Seems like you are willing to settle for another losing season, and many more while the new staff rebuilds the team once again. It is too bad that this team won't just get better overnight, but any direction they go they've got to rebuild, and this is the correct way. We've seen the other way of building, you know the one you're the fan of, building through free agency, tell me, how many playoff games did KC win in the early part of the decade when they build a team primarily through free agency? none!
Trying to paint all fans a certain way because of 2-3 quotes you pulled from poorly written respones to a poorly written blog makes you an epic failure at life.
You read a few comments and you make a judgement for the whole fanbase. Did you take any kind of survey? I don't think so. Don't write an article on just a few facts. Get all the facts so it doesn't down grade your skills.
I've been a Chiefs fan since there arrival in KC. This team has gone thru 3 different era's in there history. The first era was the championship era. It was great, but the team got old without any rebuilding (1963-1974). The second era was alot of good football, with good talented players. But it was still not a winning team (1975-1988) Now we enter the third era where we had alot of good football along with alot of winning seasons. They were in the playoffs frequently. 1989-2004 or 2005)
Yes, it is frustrating not winning a chmpionship since 1970, but I have been a fan thru thick and thin. The fans can't control what the front office does or what the coaching staff does on the field. All we can do is keep rooting for them and hope someday they will get back to there winning ways as a championship team. It has nothing to do about the fans wanting the Chiefs to be mediocre. We are not responsible for what's on the field. Every fan in the NFL wants a Superbowl. That is the way it is.
I'm getting really tired of getting called a fair weather fan, and of people telling me to stop watching the Chiefs, like being a Chiefs fan is some sort of prestigious fraternity that, if you don't pay the dues and know the secret handshake, you're not allowed to be a part of. I'm also getting sick of people telling me to get out of the basement or come out of the cave. You people can't be serious. If anything, I tend to believe I'm even more of a fan of the Chiefs because I'm disgusted with losing and am not going to get excited about competing for the division title.
Ok, so you know what? Perhaps it is possible that a few quotes here and there--which is actually inaccurate because what I didn't mention is that since I live in Illinois and most people here are Bears fans, the only interaction I have with other Chiefs fans are those on the internet and in chat rooms, and I have been hearing very similar things from other Chiefs' fans all over the country for several years now--doesn't put everybody into the same group, but the mere fact that even a handful of fans would say those things is enough to anger me to the point that I think everybody should know what these losers are saying. Teams that don't expect to win, or better yet, DEMAND to win, never will. I've never heard a New York Yankee fan say "Man, I sure I hope we can compete for the wild card this season." That would be ludicrous to them. It should be that way for all fans, in every city. I know the Chiefs can't win the Super Bowl every year because it's impossible. The bottom line is; success is judged on how many Super Bowls a team wins, and I think that truth is distorted in the minds of a very high percentage of fans in Kansas City.
See, the problem here JC is you choose to quote a few fans that maybe are content with beating the division rivals (which is ridiculous in my opinion) and quote a few others out of context. Meanwhile, I've posted on every Chiefs blog and made valid points about the Chiefs current situation, and you've been reticent to address them. Then when you do, you say the same things over and over again. YES! We know Carl Peterson is horrible. Most of the Chiefs faithful has called for his head. YES! We know Herm is ultra conservative and probably blew the game against the Colts. Again, a sentiment I've heard echoed quite a bit.
Then you blast Chiefs fans, THE most loyal and classy football fans in the world, then whine and can't understand what the backlash is all about. WHAT DID YOU EXPECT!?
We are realistic, we understand that although Herm has his faults, he is a great "rebuilding" coach (remember, that is what's going on) and that you can't always get the Bill Cowhers of the world. Also, I think the smart fan gives him SOME benefit of the doubt. You say he won't utilize the passing game. I say that maybe that's because he's never had a good quarterback. MAYBE. I remember that was the knock on Dungy before he went to the Colts. Remember, "oh, he's gonna ruin Manning. He's not gonna utilize him. He's gonna ruin the passing game in Indy." And then Manning went on to have the best seasons of his career. Things aren't so black and white JC. I agree with ChiefsFan2008, who said he wants to try and build a team for the long haul. That's what's happening, and
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it's going great so far. You seem to want a Superbowl every year. Not realistic, and furthermore, those kind of actions (like the ones in your unrealistic December Blog) are what put us in the situation we're in now.
Lastly, you are misinformed and contradict yourself on many points. Regarding the 3rd round picks: You stated that drafting the TE was a mistake because the Kris Wilson experiment is over. WRONG! Kris Wilson is gone, off the team. Stay current on the roster. You stated that LJ was used up, but then didn't understand why we drafted a RB. WHICH ONE IS IT!? You stated that the Safety was a mistake because Pollard and Page are "ADEQUATE". I THOUGHT YOU WANTED A CHAMPIONSHIP JC!? Last time I checked, you don't win championships with adequate players.
I can't agree with a misinformed hypocrite. You're barking up the wrong tree bad-mouthing Chiefs fans dude. And for the record: I WANT A CHAMPIONSHIP FOR THE CHIEFS. I won't be satisfied with anything less. But according to you, I'm the only one. OUT CHIEFS FANS.
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You obviously have never played organized sports. You say you want to win it all and are tired of being mediocre, that we shouldn't be satisfied by just competing for a division title. Well let me tell you that in order to get any where you have to take baby steps. First you need to compete for the division title. Then you need to take care of business in the playoffs. Your mentality of what it takes to win is the reason the Chiefs have been mediocre the last 2 decades, buy free agents to plug into holes, where has this gotten us.....NOWHERE. Its hard to be competative while rebuilding, but we're not that far off. Last season KC started on a roll until Larry got hurt. He is our offense and his injury was the main reason the Chiefs fell apart last year. Theres something good brewing up here in KC and I like the smell.
chevy a team collapses because their running back get hurts? That tells me that team has so many flaws. Also you shouldn't be even depending on your running back for offense.
1) I most certainly didn't quote those people out of context. Those are their exact quotes; I'm just not sure how that can't be taken right at face value.
2) I did respond to your criticism about the current situation on soutee's blog: http://community.foxsports.com/blog s/soutee/2008/05/01/The_Herm_Edward s_Revolution
3) Saying Chiefs fans are the most loyal and classy is only sensationalizing your argument, and I'll have none of that, since it is impossible to quantify that in any way, shape, or form.
4) It's highly possible that Herm Edwards doesn't utilize the passing game because he's never had a good quarterback. It's also possible he's a complete dumb ####
5) I agree with building dynasties through the draft, and never anywhere have I ever said otherwise. I've stated that the Chiefs have been TOO conservative in free agency. Meaning, they've signed barbain free agents and tried to fill gaps that way (and failed) and drafted poorly at the same time, which is a good recipe for finishing last place. I agree that the Chiefs need to rebuild. The first step in rebuilding is usually getting a new GM and Head Coach, however.
6) I also very clearly wrote in a comment above that I don't expect them to win the super bowl every year because it's unrealistic and impossible, which is in direct conflict to the words you put in my mouth.
7) Kris Wilson - Ok, I hadn't heard he was gone. A backup TE in the 3rd round isn't crazy, but I'd still much rather have a WR or OT.
8) I never said that LJ was "used up." I did say he'll never be the same back he was before he was injured. There's absolutely no doubt that he's going to be the starter if healthy. He can have a god awful training camp and preseason and he's still going to start. That's just how it works in the NFL, guys making money are going to play. The only way I can see drafting a RB in any round higher than 6 is if the Chiefs think LJ's career really is about to be over, in which case they probably should have drafted Rashard Mendenhall or Felix Jones in the first round.
9) By "adequate" I mean to say that they can win with them. It's not realistic to have great players at every position. Safety was a position that I don't think needed an upgrade, at least not badly enough to waste a 3rd round pick. Maybe 5th round. Who is going to catch passes at WR besides Dwayne Bowe? This team WR corps are in desperate need of attention. To elaborate more on the definition of "adequate" I think that Tedy Bruschi is adequate, but not great. You can win with Pollard and Page at safety, but only if the offense gets alot better.
10) You and one other person are the only Chiefs fans saying "I want a Championship." Everybody else is talking about competing for the division, or doesn't say anything because they are so upset at me, the only thing they can say is call me names. It's a fairly small sample size, but so far I've got 2 Chiefs fans saying "Super Bowl or bust," and several dozen that, for all intents and purposes, seem to me to be content with what they have now. My original conclusion still stands: Chiefs fans are losers.
chevy - Get a clue. First, don't assume anything about my personal life, as you'll just be embarrased like that #### vm. Do you really think that you can only in championships by getting better in stages? "Ok, this year we were 8-8, but that's a really good season because last year we were only 5-11. Next year our goal is to just make the playoffs, and after that, hopefully we can then go on and try to make it to the super bowl." That sounds utterly ridiculous. You don't have to win the Super Bowl in small baby steps. If that's your goal, it is just flat out never going to happen.
I strongly disagree that the Chiefs have spent lots of money on big name free agents over the last 2 decades. I can think of 3. Marcus Allen, Chester McGlockton, and Kendrell Bell. Most of the other free agents were guys that nobody else wanted and they picked up them up cheaply after the June 1 cuts, or during training camp. Prove me wrong by giving me at least 5 more big name free agents the Chiefs gave huge money to in the last 10 or 12 years. If you can do that, I'll admit I'm wrong; I have no problem doing that. The free agents that Carl Peterson targets are castoffs (Andre Rison, Eddie Kennison) and guys signed late that nobody else wanted (Ty Law).
The definition of cast off has nothing to do with performance. Kennison was cut by a couple teams, retired, and then brought into KC mid way through a season on a cheap contract. In 2001 he joined the Chiefs, making KC his 5th team in 4 years!! If that's not a castoff, then there is simply no such thing. The Chiefs were very lucky he suddenly rediscovered his ability and desire to play pro football. Next...?
You know what? Your comments on this post really has no point. Obviously, the Chiefs have multiple holes to fill with the sorry shape the team is in right now. As a Chiefs fan, I see it as do you. It's not a matter of being content with constant losing, it's a matter of having a view point far enough in the future to know that the earliest possible season in which we could possibly be competitive would be the 2009-2010 season. Most of the Chiefs fan knows that, as should you. You're alienating people that are reading your blogs by making a generalized statement on the Chiefs fan-base as a whole. This isn't a good journalistic practice. You're going to tell me that all those people that tail-gate outside of Arrowhead and dresses up in red in the stadium are content with losing?
I'm sorry to say, I don't think I'll read anything else that you'll write until you've stop generalizing statements.
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This is BS...if you would've attended any of the pathetic games in 2007 you would realize how deeply disappointed Chiefs fans are. We have been rebuilding since 1972 and until we get someone in the front office that realizes coaching and excellent talent management matters, we are doomed to be under .500.
I know of no self-respecting Chiefs fan that thinks the BS outlined in this article is true. These are Johnny Come Lately people. I've been a fan since 1967. Len Dawson was our last best chance at history.
Wow! How can you argue with that logic? Tedy Bruschi is an "adequate" player. Who's a pretty good player then, Ray Lewis? I'm done. You said it geg102. JC, You need to spend some time on ChiefsPlanet.com and find out how real Chiefs fans feel about the front office and our situation.
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I guess that this FAN believes the old saying , Win and your a HERO lose and your a ZERO . Too bad my friend . If you have a kid in little league and his team dose not make it to the playoffs do you then call him a loser . Sportsmanship is about accepting a winning season and being able to handle a losing season . I don't think that there is a Chiefs fan out there that is HAPPY or content with losing . It has been very tough for Chiefs fans but to say to the ones that are sticking by their team are losers . Well, I really feel bad for you . Do you really think that the new England players should hang their heads over last years record ?? Not spygate their record .I guess in your mind that they are complete losers .They did not win the Super Bowl .They lost one out of 19 games but according to your logic they are nothing but losers .Silly Boy . Oh one more question are you over 13 years old ??just wondering .
Thanks Big #### for giving me more ammo for my argument. I'm not sure if you're a Chiefs fan or not, but it doesn't matter. That is loser talk.
No, you don't tell a little league kid he's a loser for not winning the championship, you ####. It's two completely different things. Kids play sports for fun, for socializing, for exploring their abilities, to learn new things, and maybe to win as well. What kind of a stupid #### question is that?
What kind of a stupid #### question is that about the Patriots. Go ahead and find me one direct quote from any player on teh 52-man roster, any coach on the entire team, or any member of management that says they are happy with going 18-1 with that one loss coming in the Super Bowl. Yeah, I'm sure Tom Brady brags about that embarrassing loss in the Super Bowl to everybody he knows. Dumb ####.
I see someone must have missed snack time . What you may need is a BIG HUG . Oh J.C. , J.C. . you have the mouth o####arbage can and you must not have a tv . I have heard a lot of people on the Pats. team say that they were proud of their season .including their coach .Not happy with a Super Bowl loss you poor dumb bleep but proud of their season . You have never heard this ?? You BLEEP . You should get out more JC For a smart guy you really get upset when you have no control of the situation and when others don't agree with you . Well Mr. sportsman I will await more of your kind words . I kinda like our new word bleep don't you . Gotta love ya jc. You big loveable Bleep Oh J.C. there is no such thing as a stupid question there is just stupid people that ask questions. I'm not very smart J.C. but don't you think that were all allowed to have our own opinions without being called stupid by others that have formed their opinions ? I'm not telling you that my opinion is the right one but just thats my opinion . And I'm a die hard Chiefs fan I have been since their beginning in Kansas City . I'm just an old dumb bleeper . God Bless you J.C.
I don't need the condescending talk. I'd love to read a few quotes from Patriots players who have publicly stated they are happy with their season. Got any links?
Have you ever heard the ol' phrase "Don't mean a thing without the ring?" If the Chiefs went 18-0, beat every single opponent 60-0, then lost the Super Bowl, I would absolutely NOT be proud, NOT be happy. No player on that team would be happy about it either; anybody who would be happy about it, is a loser.
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Jim Scheffres was born in Elmhurst, Illinois and, after attending college at the Illinois State University, he now resides in Rockford, Illinois. Jim's first love was hockey, but has since grown to love baseball and football. He casually follows college sports, the NBA, and the NHL, and roots for all Big 10 teams.
Favorite Teams: Kansas City Chiefs, Chicago Bears, Chicago White Sox, Michigan, Illinois, Texas, Miami, Florida, Illinois State.
Favorite Players: Tony Gonzalez, Frank Thomas, Tom Brady, Ken Griffey Jr., Albert Pujols, Barry Sanders, Joe Montana, Shaquille O'Neal, Micheal Jordan.
Least Favorite teams: Chicago Cubs, New York Yankees, Pittsburgh Steelers, Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, Notre Dame, Duke, North Carolina
Least Favorite Players: Ben Rothlisberger , Barry Bonds
