KEEPING SCORE
by: J-DIZZLE
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Jul 21, 2008 | 11:31PM | report this

Don't ask me where my sources come from. I have telepathy, thought transference, E.S.P., a sixth sense. Just kidding. I simply like starting rumors because I believe I should be a GM in this league. Just kidding again. But I'm sure the Clippers could use me.

With Donnie Walsh all but promising that Zach Randolph will be moved, it makes logical sense to think that the new Knicks GM will send him to his former team, the Indiana Pacers.

Especially with Jermaine O'Neal being traded to Toronto, it makes even more sense for the Pacers to go after a decent power forward.

Meanwhile the New York Knicks, who decided to go with Danilo Gallinari in the draft, never got the point guard they were seeking although they still have Stephon Marbury and recently added Chris Duhon. Marbury isn't going anywhere because of his contract and diminishing skills. Duhon can play both guard spots, which means Nate Robinson is major trade bait.

Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised to see the following trade happen:

Indiana receives: PF Zach Randolph, PG Nate Robinson

New York receives: F Troy Murphy, PG Jamaal Tinsley

There have been headlines coming out of Atlanta reporting that SF Josh Smith and the team are far from agreeing on a long term contract. Smith, who had a breakout year both on offense and defense, was heavily coveted by Philadelphia and the L.A. Clippers, among others, but we all know what happened with those two teams.

With Mike Bibby's ridiculous $15 million contract due to come off the books after next season, Hawks management is taking their time and completely weighing their options. Are they going to resign both Bibby and Smith to lucrative long term deals or do they believe that the future of their franchise is better off heading in another direction? Atlanta's recent history suggests the latter.

This is the same team that failed to keep Dominique Wilkins, Kevin Willis, and Doc Rivers together for many years and the same team that broke up Dikembe Mutombo, Steve Smith, and Mookie Blaylock after they couldn't get past Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls in the nineties.  

So what's the deal in Atlanta? Here's a potential sign-and-trade deal that can be consummated in the next couple of months if the Hawks are indeed only looking to build for the short term.

Atlanta gets: F Lamar Odom

Lakers get: F Josh Smith

For several years now, the Chicago Bulls' roster has been out of balance. And that's why the Bulls never seem to make any progress. By picking up Derrick Rose in the draft, they basically sent the message that they were no longer happy with Kirk Hinrich and the $10 million they owe him each year for the next five years. Moreover, with Duhon bolting for The Big Apple, the Bulls no longer have a reliable back up point guard. And best believe Ben Gordon is not going to be playing the point guard position either.

By trading away Ben Wallace for Drew Gooden (and his expiring contract) last season, they made it known they weren't satisfied with the progress of Tyrus Thomas and his lack of low post offensive production. It was clear they needed a player who could operate down low and make plays. Chicago is definitely going in another direction and most importantly, they want to go young and rebuild all over again.

For several months now, the L.A. Lakers have made it clear they no longer believe Lamar Odom is their man at the small forward position. Though he shows flashes of brilliance, his lack of consistency in playing at a high level just doesn't cut it for a championship contender like the Lakers. In fact, they even offered Odom to the Bulls last year in an attempt to acquire the relentless Argentinian Andres Nocioni. It might happen now.

Lakers receive: F Andres Nocioni and PG Kirk Hinrich

Bulls receive: F Lamar Odom and PG Jordan Farmar

And finally, wouldn't it be nice if the Sacramento Kings could get a former player back? The Kings' freewheeling offense, led by Kevin Martin and Beno Udrih, seems to be the perfect fit for outside shooter deluxe Hedo Turkoglu. Hedo would return to his former team, but this time around he's a better and more complete player.

The much talked about Ron Artest, therefore, moves east to Orlando to play alongside Dwight Howard to form one of the most imposing defensive tandems in the NBA. On paper, this looks like a quality and reasonable trade for both teams. Artest is given the chance to show his worth by playing for a legitimate playoff contender in Orlando. Meanwhile the Maloofs get a low-risk player in Hedo at slightly under $7 million per year for only two more years, and most importantly they are familiar with him.

Kings get: F Hedo Turkoglu

Magic get: F Ron Artest

Other significant players who could quite possibly change zip codes before next season are the Hawks' Josh Childress, the Pistons' Chauncey Billups and Tayshaun Prince, the Mavericks' Josh Howard, Utah's Andrei Kirilenko, and Miami's Shawn Marion.

The wheeling and dealing isn't done, folks. In fact it's only just begun.

 

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NiqueD
Jul 22, 2008
4:35 AM
I admit I would rather have Odom over Nate Robinson or maybe Jason Williams or probably even Latrel Spreewell at this point, it is not a long list, this list of people I would prefer keeping Lamar Odom before having.

You offered him up twice but I think you can do better. You never know. The Lakers might read these blogs. THINK DAMMIT!!!

RelicFace
Jul 22, 2008
9:32 AM
Lakers will not move Odom until they are sure Bynum will be able to play.
If they do and Bynum is hobbled by the knee injury, Odoms absence would be painful....he was our leading rebounder. He was our only real inside presence in the starting line up.
Gasol can't keep his skinny legs under the basket if a breeze is blowing.

Last edited by RelicFace on July 22nd at 9:33 AM.

BleedPRPL&GLD
Jul 22, 2008
10:19 AM
Nique,
You can't move Odom just for the sake of moving him. I know you're down on him, but without an upgrade, he will stay put.
He was a vital part of the success of the team last year. Yes, he tanked in the finals, and yes, he has a tendancy to dissappear. BUT, the whole point of a trade is to improve the teams chances of winning, not dumping players you don't like.



Dizz,
I like the Josh Smith scenario. He is long and actually puts effort in on the defensive side of the ball. He has tremendous upside.

Ubershorty
Jul 22, 2008
10:40 AM
those are all good trades. i liked the 2 laker ones alot, especially if Bynum returns to be as good as before.

justanotherfan
Jul 22, 2008
11:55 AM
J-DIZZLE
Duhon being the floor general for the Knicks ? Please tell me that wasn't just Walsh's and Thomas' idea alone ?
Who are they going to get to play center for them Ellen Degeneres ?

Any trade moves concerning the Knicks is a pointer to us all that the silly season is about to start.


justan' aka tophatal .......

J-DIZZLE
Jul 22, 2008
1:30 PM
Nique... It's just a matter of time until a deal is finalized.

RelicFace... Odom's absence will not be painful as long as the Lakers get a solid player in return. Odom is expendable, especially at $15 million. Think about it... Artest, Smith, Prince, Billups, Turkoglu, and Nocioni all make half of what Odom makes and I'd take any of these players over Lamar.

BleedPRPL&GLD... Last year, I was dreaming of Smith wearing purple & gold playing alongside Kobe. If there's a player out there who could resemble Scottie Pippen, it's Smith.

Ubershorty... When Bynum returns, he'll be even better. Having said that, which trade scenario involving Odom do you like better?

Justan'... I actually like Chris Duhon. I think he'll flourish with New York, especially if he gets major minutes. I felt he never got a chance in CHI since Hinrich and Gordon ate up all his playing time.

pkrew
Jul 22, 2008
2:01 PM
If I read the money situation correctly, the Lakers will have to do something, either this year or next, with one of their "star" players. The way I read it, the total salary for the Lakers roster this season will be around 75 mil. Provided that Bynum plays well and demands the 80mil contract, that will put the Lakers total at around 90mil the following year. That's fine as long as Buss is willing to pay the luxury tax. Otherwise someone has to go.

That player would seem to be Odom. Irrc, this is the last year of his contract. You would think it would be better to trade this year, but as Relic said the Lakers need to make sure Bynum is healthy. His rehab has been a little protracted. For that reason, I would expect to see any trade involving Odom to occur after the start of the regualar season.

Last edited by pkrew on July 22nd at 2:02 PM.

justanotherfan
Jul 22, 2008
2:37 PM
J-DIZZLE
To me it still paints a scary picture up there in NY. As Duhon isn't surrounded by that much talent. And it'll take their first round draft pick Gallinari some time to get accustomed to the rigors of the NBA game.
Can we still agree upon thing however the Knicks'll still s##k this season come what may ?


justan' aka tophatal ..........

J-DIZZLE
Jul 22, 2008
3:20 PM
Pkrew... I believe Buss is willing to pay the luxury tax as long as he has the right mix of players to win the title. But at the same time, he isn't willing to go too high above the threshold. If Bynum is signed to a max extension, then there is no way he will continue to pay Odom between $12-15 million, which will be his market value after he becomes an unrestricted FA.

Therefore, the trade that makes the most financial sense for the Lakers and the one that will give them at least equal value in return would be to acquire Andres Nocioni, who makes significantly less than Odom and is, in my opinion, a better player and better fit for what the Lakers are trying to do.

Whether or not the Lakers trade Odom now or in the regular season doesn't really matter - as long as they get deal him and get something for him before he has a chance to walk as an unrestricted FA in '09.

J-DIZZLE
Jul 22, 2008
3:23 PM
justan'... the Knicks definitely have a long way to go. But I honestly believe they'll do much better this year considering the changes they've already made. And more are coming, which will make them slightly better. I do like some of their pieces, however - David Lee, Duhon, Crawford, Gallinari, Chandler. But they're still far from being a playoff team.

banmeplease
Jul 22, 2008
3:39 PM
There's not even one trade on your list that has even a 2 percent chance of happening, I like trade speculation as much as the next guy but these are lacking all logic. Teams trade players to cut salaries, remove distractions and strengthen their teams your trades are basically looking to trade players that play the exact same position as themselves, that never happens and honestly not a single trade here would really excite either team. Even the one that is most appealing to laker fans would actually be horrible in getting Smith from Atlanta it would require a sign and trade, if that happened it would mean the lakers would be paying 14 million a year (Overpaying by about 7 million per year at this point) in order to match Lamar's inflated salary. Come on now.

Anyone that thinks gettin Smith at 14 mill a year will be a good deal, be prepared to say bye bye to Bynum and Gasol because you wont be ablet to re-sign them.

Last edited by banmeplease on July 22nd at 3:47 PM.

banmeplease
Jul 22, 2008
3:42 PM
I also think you found the one trade that would make the Knicks even worse, hey Randolph is over paid but guess what he is lightyears better than the overpaid Murphy, and two more half court offense players for Dantoni.... Uh yeah thats gonna happen, at least Dantoni can find a spot for Nate, he would absolutely no interest in either Murphy or Tinsley these are just embarrasing lol.


If you think the Lakers are going to trade for a guard, the likely spot would be with Memphis as they have five, one of which the Lakers want back in Crittenton, there is absolutely no chance the Lakers would trade Farmar at this point, but they would trade players to get back Crittenton as they didnt want to give him up in the first place.


A couple of good trading partners could be New York and Atlanta as Atlanta could find some use for Lee and Randolph and the Knicks would love to have Childress and or Smith and just about anyone on there roster but Bibby all are Dantoni guys. The problem are the horrible contracts will prevent it but still much more likely trading partners than the scenarios you came up with.

Last edited by banmeplease on July 22nd at 3:50 PM.

J-DIZZLE
Jul 22, 2008
4:22 PM
banmeplease... "Teams trade players to cut salaries, remove distractions and strengthen their teams..."

So what you're telling me is that Zach Randolph and his post presence would not strengthen Indiana, which is a half-court team? So what you're telling me is that D'Antoni would not be able to find a spot for Murphy, who's an above average shooter, in his offensive system, which relishes 3-point shooters? And that Tinsley, who's a distraction in Indiana, would not be welcomed by D'Antoni in NY as a point guard who can be a floor general? C'mon now dude. Look at what you're saying before you spit it out.

You mean to tell me the Bulls couldn't use an all-around player such as Odom, who can also operate on the block? You mean to say the Bulls wouldn't strengthen their team by acquiring Odom? And that the Kings wouldn't eliminate a distraction by ridding themselves of Artest?

And as far as Smith is concerned, you say the Lakers would "overpay" by paying him Lamar Odom money. You may think that way, but Buss may not necessarily feel the same way you do if he feels Smith brings a dimension to the team that Lamar can't bring. And the Lakers may not even need to pay Smith that much (maybe only $10 mil) if the Lakers can find a way to convince Atlanta to add another player in order to make the salaries match up.

Last edited by J-DIZZLE on July 22nd at 4:40 PM.

J-DIZZLE
Jul 22, 2008
4:30 PM
" your trades are basically looking to trade players that play the exact same position as themselves, that never happens "

Uhmmm... what do you call Gasol for Brown? What do you call Garnett for Jefferson? To the contrary, teams prefer to trade player for player, position for position. LOL! Your statement is ridiculous at all levels.


"there is absolutely no chance the Lakers would trade Farmar at this point, but they would trade players to get back Crittenton"

You obviously aren't paying attention. Try to keep up. Why did LA trade Crittenton in the first place? Because he was a tradeable asset who was coveted around the league. In return, LA received a valuable veteran piece they needed. Try to follow...

Now is the perfect chance to unload Farmar. With the current trend of excellent point guards entering the league at a rapid pace, it lets a GM know that point guards can be replaced. They're not as rare as, say, centers.

Having said that, Farmar becomes another tradeable asset. He has a nice reputation around the league, he's coveted by a few teams, and most importantly you can trade him for value. Farmar, by all means, has not secured himself as someone whom the Lakers cannot afford to lose.

If he was really that great, then how come he hasn't taken over the starting spot? Farmar is due for an extension soon and he will undoubtedly want big money (keep in mind Farmar has a HUGE EGO). The Lakers need to deal him now and get something for him before he leaves them for the riches.

Last edited by J-DIZZLE on July 22nd at 4:42 PM.

J-DIZZLE
Jul 22, 2008
4:37 PM
Lastly, if you think the Lakers would trade players to get Crittenton back, then I now know why you're called "banmeplease". YOu have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Here's one more for you to chew on:

"Atlanta could find some use for Lee and Randolph"

Really? So I guess Atlanta isn't really happy with the emerging Al Horford, who plays literally the same position as Lee and Randolph. And I guess they're really not that satisfied with the 6-9 Marvin Williams either, who had a breakthrough year last year, so they'd rather take on an overweight 6-10 slug named Zach, who'd slow down their offense and drive Bibby and Joe Johnson nuts?

LOL. I completely disagree with ALL your points.

Last edited by J-DIZZLE on July 22nd at 9:28 PM.

justanotherfan
Jul 22, 2008
5:01 PM
J-DIZZLE
I can't see the Knicks at best with nothing more than a 25-57 record. This team and franchise is so far off track that it'd be better of if they were on the Titanic heading towards an iceberg.
That being said I'm not as eager as you to see another train wreck where Isaiah Thomas is involved.


justan' aka tophatal ............

Orman1006
Jul 22, 2008
8:07 PM
J-Dizzle Dude- you crack me up. I appreciate the comments on my Trailblazer posts. You offer some interesting scenario's. However, none seem to really make much sense for the Pacers. Larry Bird is trying to clean house of poor locker room guys. Zach Randolph is just a cancer to a locker room and team. He'll get his 20/10 and alienate everyone along the way- driving EVERY team he's played for into the gutter. Didn't Josh Smith just sign with a Euro-Club? And Kirk/Andres for Odom/Farmar. I would stick with what's working. Good chemistry in LA dude. I would rather bank on JF potential right now than Kirk's. Lastly, Hedo is the bomb. He just ain't movin. And the Magic would not move for Ronnie "on another planet" Artest. I just don't see it happening. Hey, wanna be a Blazer Maniac?

J-DIZZLE
Jul 22, 2008
9:42 PM
Orman106... first off, thanks for stoppin' by. Secondly, a good buddy of mine is named Orman. That makes you only the second Orman I know. And now to address your comments.

Your argument regarding Randolph is fair. I see your point. But at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if Bird took him because all in all Zach has game. And it's not like he's a total cancer like Tinsley. It's just his weight that's an issue.

"Didn't Josh Smith just sign with a Euro-Club?"

No. That was Josh Childress.

"I would rather bank on JF potential right now than Kirk's."

I wouldn't. Hinrich would flourish in the triangle. If you look at Kirk's game - shooting guard in a point guard's body - it's tailor made for the triangle a la John Paxson, Steve Kerr. Think about it. The Lakers have already made previous attempts in the past to acquire Hinrich. What does that tell you?

No go on Blazermania dude. Sorry. I bleed purple and s-h-!-t gold. However, I do admire your fans up there in the Northwest.

I remember a time when I watched a game up there in the old Portland Memorial Coliseum, which seated only about 12,000 people... The Blazers of Clyde the Glide, TPorter, Kersey, et al were playing The Glove, Reignman, Schrempf and the Sonics. All I kept saying to myself was how much I wished Lakers fans at the Forum could be as loud and raucous as Blazer fans. For a day, I experienced what Blazermania was all about.

banmeplease
Jul 22, 2008
10:39 PM
As I do yours Kwame for Gasol was not a position for position swap only if you look at it like a simpleton. Kwame was the biggest expiring contract available in order to free up space, Gasol was the best player available and the Lakers got lucky. Players playing the same position and in the same salary range almost never are swapped one on one, do some research and get back to me. There is no way in hell Dantoni would want any part of Murphy or Tinsley thats a fact. Lee is the one player every team wants that the Knicks have accepted they will have to package to get someone to take some of their bad salaries. The Lakers do still have an interest in Crittenton. Keep blasting but your #### is straight stupid.

J-DIZZLE
Jul 22, 2008
10:51 PM
oh so now you switch your statement and add a piece of important information. As I recall...

"your trades are basically looking to trade players that play the exact same position as themselves, that never happens "

and

"Players playing the same position and in the same salary range almost never are swapped one on one"

mean two different things. Interesting how you left out the "salary" part the first time around.

"The Lakers do still have an interest in Crittenton"

Of course they do, he's their former player. But it doesn't mean they're going to make a deal for him. Last I heard, the Lakers were talking to Jorge Garbajosa's agent. So there goes your theory on the Lakers actively pursuing Javaris, who may be dealt to Orlando by the end of the week. Let me fill you in on a little something... the Lakers are looking for a PG who's proven.

I'll keep blasting, and you'll keep hearing me from across the country dude.

Remember, you were probably one of the thousands of people who never thought L.A. would land Gasol, while I called the trade a year before it happened and told Joe McDonnell about it two days before it went down. Call him and he'll tell you I did.

And no, the Lakers didn't get lucky. It was a stroke of pure genius. Wanna know lucky? The Clippers are lucky for landing Camby for a bag of peanuts and a 10-piece chicken nuggets combo meal.

Last edited by J-DIZZLE on July 22nd at 11:08 PM.

Ubershorty
Jul 22, 2008
10:59 PM
J-Dizzle,
They are both really good, but I would probably take the Bulls one because then we would have a full lineup of above average players. I've heard that Josh Smith has attitude problems so that is why I chose the Bulls one. And I've always liked Andres Nocioni.

2tones
Jul 23, 2008
7:46 AM
LMAO!!! A) Larry Bird is too big of a stiff and wants no more troublemakers!!! Indiana will never have Zach on that team. Also the Pacers still have Ford and Jarrett Jack at PG and don't need Nate B) LMAO A-Town would never be dumb enough to trade a future Superstar for an overated player like ODOM?!?!? C)The Lakers don't need anymore PG's Sasha,Farmar, and Fisher are quite enough D) Artest for Hedo would be Great for the Magic (agreed there) so 1 for 4 gives you the same GM qualities as the Clippers GM so on that point I guess you were right again LOL!!!

KB718
Jul 23, 2008
7:49 AM
Wow the animosity on this blog is amazing and I also think it's pointless. We're so quick to change our team when the Lakers without 1 horribly officiated game, a blown 24 pt lead, our arguably 2nd best player injured (3rd at worst), and our unfortunate timing on playing our worst basketball of the playoffs would be the NBA champs. Leave Lamar in purple and gold, the chemistry is great, and regardless of what some may think he is the best fit for the TRIANGLE offense being able to pass, post, and handle at his size. Ron is a risk, Josh is still too raw, and the Andres deal is just not going to happen. Trevor Ariza who I consider to be a poor man's Josh Smith will be back next year healthy and our other role players Sasha and Jordan are only going to improve, with Bynum returning Pau will be back dominating at his natural PF position and D-Fish will be D-Fish. And wats all this talk about tweaking our PG position. The TRIANGLE has never been known to need a superstar PG just a solid ballhandler/modest defender/above average shooter which basically defines Derek Fisher (not to mention he's clutch). I guarantee if the Celtics meet us again in the finals (which is the most likely scenario for next year) with our team completely healthy LA wins in at MOST 5 games (and that 1 win is out of respect to KG and Paul).

Last edited by KB718 on July 23rd at 7:50 AM.

2tones
Jul 23, 2008
7:56 AM
OMG ARIZA A POOR MAN'S JOSH SMITH?!?!?!? LMFAO!!! Yeah poor as in homeless bum on the street-type comparison!!! Congrats on making the LAMEST comparisonever in sports history lol!!! FYI Artest would fit in perfectly with the LAKERS (toughness, lockdown d and better scorer than ODOM) and this coming from a Laker-hater too...but I will still admit Artest on that Team wouldbe dangerous...but they will still have their hands full with the Hornets now with POSEY!!! ....LMAO ARIZA in the same breath as Josh Smith (shakin my head)

KB718
Jul 23, 2008
8:15 AM
As 4 Atlanta who cares really? They're a team that has a lot of above average talent, a superstar, and a budding post presence yet they can barely squeeze out an 8th seed in the EAST which baffles me. If they're not tops now when will they be with the East slowly improving. The Knicks...(sigh) as a New Yorker I must sadly say we aren't going to be relevant for probably the next 2-3 yrs. Donnie shud just keep it in cruise control 4 now and let the bad contracts expire. He shud keep the core of good young talent around him ala Gallinari, Lee, Crawford, Chandler, and Nate and in a couple years most of these guys will be vastly improved and we'll have enuff cap room to bring Team USA together or at least LeBron. The Pacers are in deep doo-doo cuz they don't have much to offer most of their guys are getting old and no one wants 2 do biz with Larry becuz he'll try to trade you Jermaine Oneal 4 Bynum and Odom (lmao at how bad that would have turned out for LA but didn't). Chi-town is another one of those teams you can't find out wat to do with. They have good young talent just little production they should try bundling their underproducing, disgruntled, semi-stars ala Gordon, Deng, and Hinrich for a proven star like T-Mac and some other Rockets but that's just a suggestion.

justanotherfan
Jul 23, 2008
8:17 AM
J-DIZZLE
The Knikcs'll go as far as D'Antoni can guide them. And it'll also be incumbent on the players buying into his strategies. Hopefully they're prepared to listen ? They're a young team who'll be seeking a new course in the terms of the direction that they'll be taking.

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justan' aka tophatal ............

KB718
Jul 23, 2008
8:28 AM
Wait hold on since wen did Josh Smith become Scottie Pippen if I recall correctly this "FUTURE SUPESTAR" was averaging like 11pts a year ago and was a scrappy paint presence now he's a scrappy paint presence that can average 17pts. As 4 Ron yea he wud be an upgrade to Lamar but he won't be much of an upgrade if he's in JAIL for half the season!! And the Hornets giving the Lakers a problem when LA is better at every single postion except PG they cudnt even beat us last year how are they going to beat us now that we have BYNUM!!!!!! (Shaking my head)

2tones
Jul 23, 2008
8:31 AM
A-Town definetly squeeked in the playoffs last year however they did add a new floor general late into the season but how quick we forget they also took the Celtics (2008 NBA CHAMPIONS) to a game 7 and had them shakin' throughout the entire series...A-Town will resign Childress and Smith long term without a doubt and everyone will see their success this year!!! GUARANTEED

2tones
Jul 23, 2008
8:35 AM
Ron would not be in jail you ####...if anybody should be in jail it should be you with the dumbest comments and suggestions ever made!!! REGARDING Josh Smiths' stats ...take note of his defensive numbers and take your head outta your ####!!!17.2 ppg 2.5 bpg 1.5 spg 8.2rpg and 46% from the field and lets not forget he played in 81 games too CASE CLOSED!!! The HORNETS will be rocking alot of teams next year including the LAKERS!!! Posey is a huge addition...especially playoff time...also the Hornets did not have anybody to defend Kobe now with Posey they will!!!

Last edited by 2tones on July 23rd at 8:53 AM.

PF
Jul 23, 2008
8:56 AM
The first trade could possibly happen, while the others are doubtful. Again, I think you're putting too much stock in other teams desire to land Lamar Odom. Josh Smith is far better, so LA would likely have to throw in some future 1st rounders.

The same could be said for the Bulls trade. I think Ben Gordon is more likely to be moved, cause management allegedly loves Kirk Hinrich. The Bulls could be interested in Odom, but not Farmar.

Last edited by PF on July 23rd at 8:57 AM.

mikers
Jul 23, 2008
9:00 AM
All of these trades are like swapping cyanide for hemlock.

KB718
Jul 23, 2008
9:00 AM
I'm going to start off by apologizing to the people on this blog that have to listen to 2tones stupidity I mean 1st off he's a Hawks fan, ummm how many championships do they have---nuff said
And if that's not bad enuff according to 2tones the Hawks are gonna have success this season being led by Mike Bibby and people if that name sounds familiar its becuz Mike Bibby used to be an all star in like 1980 but hasn't really been relevant since Shaq was on the Lakers. O yea and 2tones also feels Josh Smith is the next big thing becuz he can block a few shots get in passing lanes score primarily off of garbage baskets and shoot a horrible percentage outside of the paint.O wait there's more he not only thinks Kobe Bryant can be guarded but he also says it will be James Posey's defense that will lead the Hornets past LA in the playoffs. I was jus startin 2 like the Hawks 2 but now I realize just how hopeless they are thank u 2tones. How u like me now SHAWTY!!!!--Case Closed

Last edited by KB718 on July 23rd at 9:06 AM.

2tones
Jul 23, 2008
9:09 AM
KB718 that was the worst lip I have ever seen since seeing the top of your mothers next to my sensitive area...ya feel me playa?!?!? If everyone else saw the Hawks/Celtics Playoff series and how competitive and how much of a REAL series that was compared to how the LAkers got handled by the same team in the FINALS!!! LMAO 30 some points in game 6?!?!?!?? the LAke show could not even squeeze out a game 7!!! So quit your pointless jawin as you have been served kinda like the Lake show were in the 2008 FINALS...or your mother with the caramel TUBE STEAK!!! NUFF SAID amateur!!!

Last edited by 2tones on July 23rd at 9:10 AM.

NiqueD
Jul 23, 2008
9:20 AM
LOL what a zoo. Love it.

Now let's get back to Odom. The problem with Odom is that he's a M-O-R-O-N. That and his 15 million. But being stupid and overpaid is not unique in the NBA. Someone will take him since his contract is expiring. I still like the Ron Artest and Kenny Thomas for Odom. Smith has two years to go on a stupid contract (An Odom contract if you will) but that's not a big deal. For one year it's a wash and the second year it's an expiring contract which once again is the easiest bad contract to deal. Call Kevin McHale. He'll take it. Or the Knicks.

Farmar tanked the entire playoffs. I have no love lost for Farmar at this point. He has not matured to the level everyone thought and his ego in fighting with Sasha for the ball during a game on court showed me nothing but negative about him.

No way Larry Bird takes on Randolph. He's already shopping for Shotguns and about to go postal on his team. He would not ever add to the problems he already has.

KB718
Jul 23, 2008
9:27 AM
Wow people are so sensitive, u spit out facts then they start reminiscing about having #### sex with their own mother and pretending she was another woman (sick by the way). But we can go back and forth like this all day kinda like me and your mom but this is the last response I'm sending. The Celtics got off 2 a poor start in the playoffs not playing their best ball the big 3 didnt show up especially #### Allen but that still wasnt enuff help 4 the Hawks which led to their 34 pt trashing in game 7 wen the Celtics and Hawks both realized who they were. Now the Celtics beat the Lakers while playing their best ball and the Lakers seemed flat out uninspired kinda like how ur girl feels about sleeping with u. Everything considered LA lost but I'm willing to go to Vegas 2day and put ur life savings on LA winning it all next year, but I can't cuz the bookie says I have to bet at least $100. So with that thank u 4 trying to keep up with me and I wish u and the Hawks the best of luck next year

2tones
Jul 23, 2008
9:37 AM
WOW I just googled STUPIDITY and your PIC is all over the net KB718 and who you foolin' anyways? The only way you would ever be able to get down to Vegas is if you took your freakshow of being a Trailer Park TRANNY to all new heights and your Pimp paid your way!!! Hell just ask your MOMZ for the money I see her on the Docks workin'/sellin' #### off everyday!!! LMAO Do your self a favor and quit AMATEUR!!!

Last edited by 2tones on July 23rd at 9:38 AM.

Davidthebrick
Jul 23, 2008
10:48 AM
Its exactly why your not a GM. Why would the lakers package Jordan Farmar in the deal? Makes no sense to trade J Critt. then Farmar and be left w/ no back up PG. The Lakers had the best bench in the league, why would they want to mess w/ it? Its enough that they didnt keep Ronny!

dewayne33
Jul 23, 2008
10:51 AM
The Lakers are looking to get rid of Odom, so the Josh Smith trade would be good for them; the only reason why this trade would not go through is because, the Hawks rest on Smith, so if they are going to give him up, they will want a player that can fill that spot the same way, and Odom is not that guy!!! The Artest trade must be a joke, the Kings want him gone, but not for a washed up player that had one good year and probably is one injury away from retierment. Not that Hedo is injury prone, (To my knowledge) but he is old.

smokintreesdroppinthrees
Jul 23, 2008
11:02 AM
I really like the trade for Josh Smith he is stronger, younger version of Lamar although he may not have the greatest handles he husltes for sure.

Orman1006
Jul 23, 2008
11:24 AM
Dizzle My Man- you are hilarious! I retract my Josh statement and humbly state that you are correct about THAT! I just heard that Odom was being traded to Golden State for Turiaf (LOL). Dude- keep bloggin!

2tones
Jul 23, 2008
11:51 AM
Nah that trade will never happen...Over Rated Odom could not handle the run&gun that the Hawks run...A-Town might have lost Childress to the Greeks but they damn sure ain't losin' Smith to the Lakes! The only way the Hawks would trade Smith to the Lakers is for Gasol and like I said he can't get up and down the court well either.

francisco480
Jul 23, 2008
12:05 PM
noboy is going to give Josh Smith for Lamr Odem. Aother fantasy trade only available on NBA live 2009. Let me guess the Lakers are also willing to give Luke Walton for Artest right?

2tones
Jul 23, 2008
12:11 PM
LOL well said Francisco I was thinkin' the same thing except for I was thinkin' they were usin' NBA 2k8 but maybe your theory is better seeing as those trades were garbage and so was nba Live

Flipfantabulas
Jul 23, 2008
1:00 PM
Man, I've been saying that my LAKERS shouldn't try to trade for ARTEST, when they can try to workout a Sign & Trade between JOSH SMITH & LAMAR ODOM. . . Just imagine, PG-Fisher/Farmer, SG-Kobe/Sasha, SF-Smith/Ariza, PF-Gasol/Radman, C-Bynum/Mihm

***I'ma just throw this out there, there's no logic to it but hey you never know. What about K.Hinrich & L.Deng for J.Farmar & L.Odom??? or J.Smith & A.Law for L.Odom & J.Farmar???

You guys that HATE on our LAKER devotion & trade scenerio's are just plain stupid. First of all none of us actually own the LAKERS, so we wouldn't be able to pull the trigger on any of these trades, second you MORONS act like uneven trades never happen. . . Hmmm, what about when the Pistons acquired SHEED for practically nothing or how BOSTON stole GARNETT form the T-Wolves, or just last season Mitch Kupchak pulled off the second most lopsided trade in history (even though Kwame's contract came off the books and how Marc Gasol & Javaris Crittenton might be solid players, eventually) You might ask whats the #1 most lopsided trade ever, that's easy, the other great team in Los Angeles mangaged to bend over the Denver Nuggets and STEAL my Fantasy B-ball Rebound & Block King Marcus Camby. . . (For a conditional second round pick, that means they might not even take the pick, so they might even get him for nothing in exchange at all)

Not to mention Divac for Bryant, but thats right up there. No wonder everyone HATES Los Angeles, we alway's get what we want. I remember when I was saying the LAKERS should sign PAYTON & MALONE, & everyone was like yea ri

Last edited by Flipfantabulas on July 23rd at 1:46 PM.

2tones
Jul 23, 2008
1:17 PM
Wow you Lakers Fan...definetly give a new meaning to live in la la land...keep dreamin' it ain't happenin' ...this just in: Lebron James has been traded to the Hawks for Zaza Pachulia and future considerations ...oh wait this is association mode in NBA 2K...lol my bad but at least I can differentiate between real and fictional..alot of these blogs need to be done on the IGN website under NBA Live or NBA 2k gamer suggestions

You #### !!! those trades were done only to free up cap space(DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY CANT WIN WITH THE HIGH PRICED TALENT THEY HAVE), the teams you picked to trade with do not have that issue and are up & coming teams aka teams on the rise not teams who have to dismantle (LIKE THE NUGGETS)!!! Educate yourself b4 looking like you said a "####" Way to go G O O F!!!

Last edited by 2tones on July 23rd at 1:55 PM.

Flipfantabulas
Jul 23, 2008
4:36 PM
Chicago Bulls & Atlanta Hawks Up & Coming???? Thats the silliest thing I've ever heard, your even dumber than I thought! And did you not read that I mentioned that the trades I was talking about have no logic, or you just dont have any comprehension skills what-so-ever?????

2tones, you've offically labeled yourself an idi0t. The Bulls are are not under the salary cap, thats why they're having such a hard time deciding what to do with L.Deng & B.Gordon dumbazz. You try to act like your so smart, but you really dont know squat. Besides if a 2nd or 3rd team were to be included in a 3-way or 4-way trade for L.Deng or J.SMITH who are you to say that those trades won't go through. Exactly you aint nobody, so if we want to dream & discuss about trades, just shut your pie-hole because nobody knows for sure what can happen in the NBA not even stupid David Stern. . .
Trust me when I say this though, the Lakers probably are gonna wait and see how Bynum, Gasol, & Odom, can mesh together before they make any kind of move. So you can bet on them making a big move before next seasons trade deadline. (But hopefully they make a small one b4 the start of the season too)

Last edited by Flipfantabulas on July 23rd at 4:48 PM.

Flipfantabulas
Jul 23, 2008
4:58 PM
Lemme ask the Official Idi0t 2tones a question, you mentioned that you can tell the difference between real & fictional right? Well how many of the lopsided trades that have occured did you forsee happening before they actually went down???? That's right just like everyone else did, none! Because if someone talked about those trades b4 they occured, not one person would have believed them. Not even the so-called nba analysts or experts mentioned those deals b4 they happened aside from Garnett being shopped, not one of those deals was even being circulated in the media until after they went down. So, again you just opening your mouth proves how much of an idi0t you really are!!!

sportsnewsargument
Jul 23, 2008
6:18 PM
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2tones
Jul 24, 2008
4:50 AM
FLIPFANTABULAS what a ####' fairy name you lame dumb ####!!! Are you sniffin' glue as well as your fathers' drawers?!?!?! You have officially made it clear that we get new results when googling STUPIDITY!!! It's got a picture of your fairy ####!!! Who would not look at the Hawks and Bulls as young up and coming teams?!?!?! LMAO!!! LOOK at the average age of both teams as well as NBA experience for both teams and that should be self-explanatory!!! I can't believe everyone let you off with those dumb #### blogs!!! The Garnett trade was made once again cuz the T-Wolves could not get it done...year after year and Garnett (hitting the 30+yrs mark) needed to be used to REBUILD (as leverage) their team (T-Wolves) which they were able to do with 5 young players. (Not the same situation in A-Town or Chicago as both teams have loads of young talent where as the T-Wolves had very little before that trade) (also yes there were rumors of Garnett goin' to Boston after Ray was traded - however they would not be found on the Fox for Kids site that you frequent) Why do you constantly make yourself look like a fool? Your father should be ashamed that his only son (who probably tucks while moonlighting as a tranny) has both of his own feet constantly in his mouth like some foot fetish freak!!! Way to go FLIPFAIRY!!! (PS the Bulls are not having a hard time with what to do with Deng and Gordon it's Hinrich and Gordon and that is cuz of the bountiful amount of Guards on that team...they are restricted free agents and the Bulls can match any offer from any team regardless of the CAP) Schooled

Last edited by 2tones on July 24th at 8:11 AM.

BOBKISSlinda
Jul 24, 2008
7:51 AM
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