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Thin skinned bloggers and kiss butt commenters - yech!!!
May 11, 2008 | 6:01PM | report this

Well at some point, one has to say enough is enough.  I get Foxmail once in awhile from friends I have met on these pages asking me for my opinion about blogs and comments and today was one of those days.  One of the people for whom I have the utmost respect was being severely denigrated by a new blogger because she had the audacity to criticize the blog.  Comments supporting my friend from many others (including two from me) were deleted.  So let me tell you how I feel about that B.S.

Nique, if you can't take any criticism you are going to stay mighty busy deleting comments for awhile and then people will just stop reading your garbage.  Oh sure, you will still get a few supportive remarks  from the normal cadre of kiss butt commenters who think they must always play nice with everyone except a few of us who are brutally honest on these pages.  One, Gunny, even suggested using a comma or two occassionally to make your blog more readable but he has ignored numerous requests from others to stop typing in all caps to make his blogs more readable.  I always ignore his blogs now although, unfortunately, I do see a few comments from him on others blogs.  YM is another who can always be counted upon to criticize uncivility while always posting comments in support of garbage like yours.  Even a guy I have always respected until today, chose to play nice with you for some unknown reason rather than supporting someone with much more class and reasonableness.  Whatever Photoman.

The bottom-line is that almost all bloggers put their opinions out there knowing they will create both positive and NEGATIVE responses.  If you are too thin skinned to handle that, maybe you should refrain from blogging so your fragile little psyche won't be harmed.  At least that is not as cowardly as just deleting the negatives so it appears you are more well regarded than many know you are.

OK trashers.  I know you are out there, dislike me strongly, and will gladly rush to type rejoinders to this blog.  Bring 'em on.  

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JOKERSWILD
May 11, 2008
6:23 PM
Hoosier you just made my favorites list--I have a bone to pick with her also she has already takin two post that I have posted and copied the titles to suit her greedy need for comments let alone suddenly becoming a Nascar fan overnight then comming into the nascar section like shes been here all along and tearing into Volfan was the last straw..I like Volfan alot and she has been nothing but kind to me of course we may not agree on many things but we work it out and remain freinds...I know me and you have had our spats but that is only when your puttin T.Stewart down but hey you have a right to your oppinion and I respect that plus arguing with you is like fighting an uphill battle Ive got your back on this one glad you posted it.....JW

NiqueDodson
May 11, 2008
6:24 PM
I attacked no one on my blog. I deleted you for saying my father has no class. You don't know my father and any decent human does not tolerate hate comments on their parents. Now you delete this, I don't care. You got the message. I was attacked for adverb usage? EXCUSE ME? This is english class? You come on my blog attacking my parent again and you'll be deleted EVERY TIME. Your friend was WRONG. Comment on my blog, don't tell me I'm ignorant because I am not and you're only proving what you are with this blog. Don't you dare attack Gunny or Photogr. They do more good for the NASCAR blogs than a jerk like you ever will.

Last edited by NiqueDodson on May 11th at 6:29 PM.

HoosierRacer13
May 11, 2008
6:35 PM
Nique,
I don't have to delete your comment and anyone who reads your blog can see what kind of man your dad is and why you are who you are. As for you being ignorant, again readers can judge for themselves. If you used poor grammar and were corrected for it, perhaps you should proof your work or admit that you don't have perfect grammar. No one expects perfect grammar on the blogosphere. In terms of deleting comments, mine were not the only ones deleted and only one of them mentioned your dad. Thus you prove you are thin skinned and incapable of facing well deserved criticism.

NiqueDodson
May 11, 2008
6:36 PM
that is a lie. Volfan came on MY blog and tore into me about things that are not even on the blog.

As far as your title goes Jokes you stole your title from another guy who said Kyle Busch had run over that person not Danica. THEN came your title and I openly admitted going even further with both titles and you were not the first so don't claim you were and don't claim I stole your title twice when you stole your one from another and embellished it, which is exactly what I did with yours.

Stop lying. I was not the agressor here and when you talk about my parents I will do exactly what you would do. I won't tolerate it.

Now that tough skinned enough for you Boys?

NiqueDodson
May 11, 2008
6:37 PM
Are you simple minded enough to justify a vicous attack over adverb positioning? I can't think of anything to say to that to make you look more foolish than you do for yourself.

JOKERSWILD
May 11, 2008
6:39 PM
I Do however have to say that Photogr is a freind of mine and in no way do I agree with you there.. he has a right to comment however he wants to whoever he wants whenever he wants and I wont take your side on that aspect of this post..

HoosierRacer13
May 11, 2008
6:42 PM
JW,
I respect your opinions (even when they are wrong - I mean even when I disagree with them). Seriously, there are many on here with differing opinions who express those opinions quite strongly but most can still respect each other. I haven't always agreed 100% with volfan69 but no one consistently exudes more class and kindness to others on these pages than she. Gunny is pretty self-righteous at times and since I often disagree with him, I choose to not read his blogs. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but not their own facts. Nique deserved the criticism she got and deleting comments because they question your opinion is COWARDLY. Thanks for stopping by JW. You are one of the most popular and well respected guys on these pages. I appreciate your support on this issue and KNOW we will have other issues upon which we disagre but I won't delete that disagreement. I can take the heat.

HoosierRacer13
May 11, 2008
6:46 PM
JW,
I've always considered photgr a friend as well and I agree it is his right to comment as he chooses but all free speech has consequences. I disagree with him in this case because he knows volfan69 and what a classy person she is.

HoosierRacer13
May 11, 2008
6:47 PM
Nique,
Nice post. I wondered how long it would be before you started with the childish name calling. I am simple minded indeed. It is pretty simple that you are overly defensive and cowardly. Thanks for illustrating it yet again.

JOKERSWILD
May 11, 2008
6:48 PM
Nique do you ever check your facts before you open your mouth look at the time his posted and the time mine posted I posted mine twenty minutes before him...
""" Danica Patrick Runs over five people """
May 10, 2008 | 6:24AM | JOKERSWILD

REPORT: KYLE BUSCH RUNS OVER CREW MEMBER
May 10, 2008 | 6:44AM | SmartestManOnEarth

DANICA PATRICK RUNS OVER 119 PEOPLE, 8 DOGS, 31 CATS,
May 10, 2008 | 2:45PM | NiqueDodson

And he said K.Busch runs over someone not Danica
so your aurgument is stupid as is your logic..

Be original and stop trying to steal someone elses Ideas maybe you'll get a little more respect..

Last edited by JOKERSWILD on May 11th at 6:50 PM.

NiqueDodson
May 11, 2008
6:49 PM
I deleted your and yours alone Hoosier and you lying about it only shows who is the coward here.

When on I come on your blog I have to deal with you in whatever manner you chose. When you come on my blog you have three choices. 1.) You can act civil and talk to me about what I've said and if you disagree tell me why without tearing my head off. 2.) Not come on my blog at all or 3.) Get deleted when you attack me and my dad over things that have nothing to do with the blog. You're pretty immature to be calling my father and I worthless over your friend losing her cool and acting like a screaming crazy and I never once went crazy on her. So you just make the decision but those are MY blog rules and if Gunny in his all caps, and anyone else willing to talk to me about what I've written, not just insult to be acting stupid, only number one or two, that's fine. You will NOT name call me or my family on MY blog without being deleted.

Children name call. Immature adults name call. Adults discuss. End of story.

Last edited by NiqueDodson on May 11th at 6:52 PM.

NiqueDodson
May 11, 2008
6:50 PM
His was above yours Jokers so whatever. I took it to be his was after. Sorry I didn't think to check the time.

But even so you still Lie. I didn't steal two of your titles. I embellished to the point of absurdity on purpose. You left out half of it.

HoosierRacer13
May 11, 2008
6:50 PM
Nique,
One more comment then I have other things to do this evening. If you thought you were "viciously" attacked you display a naivete that is pretty incredible for someone who "says" they attend college.

NiqueDodson
May 11, 2008
6:53 PM
Whatever.

HoosierRacer13
May 11, 2008
6:55 PM
Great comeback "college" girl. You asked what kind of crybabies you were hanging out with because your dad used the term crybabies so it is easy to see from where the name calling comes. The nut, as they say, doesn't fall far from the tree.

NiqueDodson
May 11, 2008
7:00 PM
It was a lighthearted JOKE. Jeez talk about thin skinned. I even put LOL behind it. Do you have any skin?

You know what Hoosier I'm done with you. You are welcome on my blog anytime you are willing to follow MY rules. I am here when I talk NASCAR to learn and have fun. It's just racing. And for you to go ballistic with your friend makes me wonder if you ever just have fun with the racing or are you just here to harass and fight? I'm not. Your blog your terms. My blog my terms.

Have a wonderful night.

Last edited by NiqueDodson on May 11th at 7:03 PM.

JOKERSWILD
May 11, 2008
7:07 PM
And the other post you jumped all over was how to get blog comments101 you came back with your version to counter mine and made it look like I attacked you.. my post had nothing to do with "YOU" as I stated I quess you feel everyone is out to get you or something but I could care less Because I see you for what you really are... a comment seeking phoney and a fake you became a K.Busch fan overnight just so you could write blogs about him your not fooling anyone Nique do you think we can't see through you..??

NiqueDodson
May 11, 2008
7:14 PM
Well since I just became a fan I guess I had to choose someone. Maybe I should have asked you to make the decision for me? I'm done with you too Joker. You have a real problem with complaining about others for attention it seems. Works though. Have to give you that.

Have some cheese with that whine? Good night.

Last edited by NiqueDodson on May 11th at 7:15 PM.

HoosierRacer13
May 11, 2008
7:14 PM
Readers, I have posted three new comments on Nique's blog that are within her special "rules" and she has already deleted one.

Here they are so you can see how thin skinned she is:

Nique,
You wrote "I'd like to know. Who was at fault". It is unfortunate that you don't have coverage of racing events whereever you are and apparently do not know how to get informatino you would like to know. The guy who was hit said he was at fault. He also said he has been around racing for decades and should have known better than to be where he was and not paying attention. Anything else you would like to know about the incident?

You also erroneously posted that volfan69 called open wheelers icons of NASCAR racing when she clearly wrote icons of racing (no NASCAR in her comment).

HoosierRacer13
May 11, 2008
7:17 PM
Nique,
You say you are the victim of a "violent" attack. Do they have a library at the college you say you attend? Perhaps you should try to find a dictionary there and look up the word violent and see if the definition is appropriate for the context in which you used it. Just a suggestion.

Those are the three comments. Since one has already been deleted by her it is obvious she has added a fourth "rule" to her blogs. If you show her a factual error in a comment she posts, she will also delete your post. I guess she thinks that may somehow "hide" her error. That is laughable.

HoosierRacer13
May 11, 2008
7:20 PM
Oh yeah, here is Rule #5 for Nique's blog. As long as she says something and then puts LOL after it, it is OK. Gosh, for those of you who want to waste time reading her blogs and then commenting maybe I should develop a pamphlet outlining all her rules. Most of us just take whatever comments we get and respond or ignore and move along. She wants everyone to learn her rules before they comment and then she still takes the cowardly way out and deletes any critical of her facts.

HoosierRacer13
May 11, 2008
7:22 PM
Rule #6 - if Nique isn't creative enough to come up with a blog topic it is perfectly OK for her, and her alone, to steal others ideas.

I'll keep adding to these as long as she keeps feeding me information on rules to which we must adhere.

HoosierRacer13
May 11, 2008
7:45 PM
Rule #7 - Nique is NOT interested in anyone helping her improve her grammar, spelling, or punctuation even though the college where she says she is an honors student doesn't appear to be helping her. Ahhh, grade inflation, another great topic for a blog, just not on the racing pages.

Sweetkena
May 11, 2008
8:20 PM
Well the pot definately got stirred up didnt it? I must say, I read that blog. It was ok if a little novice. She's trying very hard to fit herself in with people who've been there done that and is not doing a great job. But I'm new so I thought I would keep my nose out of it even though the way she lit into volfan really didnt sit well with me. I've never seen volfan be rude to anyone and I've seen her comments everywhere.

She also deleted my post on that blog. All I said was that on what planet is Kyle Busch good looking??? LOL... guess Im not allowed to say that either. Oh well.

photogr
May 11, 2008
8:42 PM
Hoosier:

You crack me up. I don't give a sheep dip whether you respect me or not. I also don't need your approval on who I make comments too either.

In my view, you are who you are. I respect that. This bolg is not your best. Sorry pal.

It is better to write about racing rather than attacking others less endowed with your level of education.

Before you attack some one, Better to get to know them first then bring out their short commings. Saves a lot of grief.

Enough said. Have a good day.

jon_464
May 11, 2008
9:30 PM
I respect Nique for doing her best to learn about NASCAR and its culture. It takes time and a lot of questions being asked to learn a sport like NASCAR. That being said, I respect anyone that puts themselves out there to write a post. If I disagree with the post, I'll say so and give reasons why. At the end of the day, it's all about being a better blogger.

noahspop2001
May 12, 2008
12:20 AM
Hoosier....He doesn't get people have opinions. My spelling may be off. People will tell me. My comments might make some smile and #### others off. Oh well its a BLOG. If you cant take the negitive comments with a grain of salt. Stop writing...I love this stuff...

JOKERSWILD
May 12, 2008
5:19 AM
Nique--you said.. I'm done with you too Joker. You have a real problem with complaining about others for attention it seems. Works though. Have to give you that.

Have some cheese with that whine? Good night.


You know I wouldn't have a problem with you other than the Fact you took two of my titles to suit your personal needs and never once apologized then you try and turn things around like im the one attacking you..Listen im glad your done with me I wanted out this relationship anyway and I happen to like whine and cheese but prefer beer and pretzels...

HoosierRacer13
May 12, 2008
6:14 AM
Nique,
I expect you will delete this comment but I'll copy and paste it to my blog anyway. The ONLY reason I mentioned your dad in my comments is because you mentioned him and basically said it was HIS thoughts in your blog including automatically beginning by calling people he knew nothing about crybabies. If you are going to use his words in your blogs, he is fair game. As for photoman's showing his true colors in terms of his "friendship" with volfan69, she now knows where he stands and that is good.

That brings me to Rule #8 for Nique. Whereas she apparently has low self-esteem, lacks good communication skills, and is hyper-sensitive to criticism, therefore commenters are forbidden from being critical towards her on HER blog. Be gentle friends, be very, very gentle.

Last edited by HoosierRacer13 on May 12th at 6:15 AM.

HoosierRacer13
May 12, 2008
6:17 AM
SK,
Thanks for stopping by my humble little attempt to put some sanity back on these pages. Good grief, how can anyone be so naive as to think there won't be differing opinions and criticism when they post a blog.

HoosierRacer13
May 12, 2008
6:22 AM
Photoman,
Glad I crack you up but I am not and don't want to be your pal. You chose not to support another who was supposedly your pal and may have hurt her but I could care less whether I have pals here. My self-esteem is not affected by criticism, negative comments, or lack of respect for me.

I do agree with one of your points, however. This is not my BEST blog ever but they can't all be masterpieces as some have been ;-) and this one was just crying out to be written by someone. Nique brought up the education aspect when she said she is an honor student at the college level. Her writing speaks for itself - or her dad's writing since the blog seemed to be more his than hers.

You have a great day too and thanks for your candor.

JayJayDean
May 12, 2008
6:28 AM
Deleting comments = LAME.

I find it astonishing that, of all people, VOLFAN had a hand in starting this little tete-a-tete. Not that she was looking to, of course, but it is still damn funny.

Last edited by JayJayDean on May 12th at 6:29 AM.

HoosierRacer13
May 12, 2008
6:29 AM
jon,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. My only disagreement is that Nique doesn't give the appearance of someone "doing her best to learn about NASCAR" since she has only bothered to watch two races and since her primary source for racing knowledge/research sounds like an old coot who hasn't watched open wheel racing in 30 years. I always adhere to the philosophy that one should put their brain in gear before they open their mouth (or touch their keyboard in this case). There are a couple of much better ways to learn about NASCAR than her approach. First, she could use her honors level brain to read about the sport. Second, she could ask questions instead of writing garbage and then being upset when she doesn't get the adoration she expected. Third, she could watch more races and shows about racing and write on a subject about which she has picked up at least some rudimentary knowledge.

Cheers.

HoosierRacer13
May 12, 2008
6:32 AM
noahspop2001,
Thank you also for stopping by to offer your opinion. I think this whole thing with Nique and the criticism she earned but didn't expect just comes down to naivete. She's bound to get better if she'll step back and analyze the accuracy of some of her critics' comments.

You and I don't always agree but I respect your passion, your knowledge, and your intent whenever you write. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.

HoosierRacer13
May 12, 2008
6:35 AM
JW,
We can only hope we are both through with Nique and that she learns something from this situation but don't hold your breath.

JJD,
I agree and in spite of her lie, SK backs up my point that I am not the only one whose comments she deleted. If you are going to post a blog, you have to be willing to accept commenters' reaction and responses both good and bad and not be so delusional you just wipe out the negatives. Thanks for sharing.

JayJayDean
May 12, 2008
6:38 AM
#### are going to post a blog, you have to be willing to accept commenters' reaction and responses both good and bad and not be so delusional you just wipe out the negatives.

True that. Besides, if someone posts an over-the-line comment on your blog, better to let the world see it and judge it and the commenter. Deleting it just makes you look like a crybaby.

HoosierRacer13
May 12, 2008
8:10 AM
Boy JJD, I'm so tempted to delete your most recent comment but, heck, Nique's dad has already called me a crybaby so I'll leave yours up - lol.

You know, probably every one of us has posted something and later thought maybe it crossed the line or was too over the top but passion is a big part of racing and I love that the fans who comment on these pages have passion. None of us are perfect and we could all probably find something we posted at one time or another that we probably should have left unsaid BUT isn't that part of what makes this fun and entertaining - you big baby :-)

HoosierRacer13
May 12, 2008
8:14 AM
Readers - even the ultra kind, soft spoken, well respected commenters like volfan69 have admitted to being too harsh or unkind once in a great while. I have certainly admitted I was wrong and apologized more than once on these blogs BUT that doesn't take away our right to express our views. Volfan69 expressed hers and she has every right to the opinions she posted. If Nique wants to get overly defensive about them, that is her issue and she needs to grow up and deal with it.

volfan69
May 12, 2008
11:32 AM
I'm so late! It's my party and I'll cry if I want to...LOL Hoosier, I think the world of you. I do owe you an apology. "Volfan, you been spending time with Hoosier?" While I resemble that remark, I bet you resent it. While I am honored by that remark, I bet you are insulted by it. Therefore, I apologize to you that you and I have been compared. I have a lot to say so I'll be making several posts/comments. I hope that is okay with you and the PC police on here.

volfan69
May 12, 2008
11:34 AM
Even though you were told that you were the only one deleted by "shim" it is not true. Sweetkena proved that. However, a couple of other people sent me foxmail and said they left comments that were deleted. I guess they were telling a lie though. WHATEVER!

volfan69
May 12, 2008
11:40 AM
As far as "shim" sounding like Dad...I am 99% sure this person is someone that had 10 or 12 different accounts on here and then, came back as a young woman. Again, I'm not the only person that believes this. To begin with it was a man in his 60's that was a record producer. WHATEVER! It is disturbing when a man trys to be a woman. It is EXTREMELY disturbing when a man trys to be a woman and is a drama queen.."brutal violent attack" WHATEVER It is also disturbing when seemingly intelligent people feel the need to defend someone so unintelligent. WHATEVER!

volfan69
May 12, 2008
11:43 AM
JayJayDean, I had a dream I was back in elementary school. When I woke up this is what happened. NO, I wasn't trying to start anything. I was stating an honest opinon. However, my honest opinion was not well-received by several people. I'm glad I gave you a big hearty laugh.LOL

volfan69
May 12, 2008
11:50 AM
Photo wrote on Feb. 05, 2008, I've Been Thinking About Things Again." He started with a disclaimer..."Disclaimer: What I am about to say is going to ruffle feathers so if you are thin skinned, live with it." He went on to say, "All blog posters could do well with being honest with each others work and not lead them into a false bravada over inferior work." Also, he stated, "Honesty on the blogs sometimes fail to exist I have noted. I have seen some blogs that are outright the worst written topic I have ever seen with grammar and content. Yet other bloggers rant about how great a post it was. It is not nice to offend but where do you draw the line in the sand as far a(s) quality content and advise the poster to get their act together?

Last edited by volfan69 on May 12th at 11:52 AM.

moseby
May 12, 2008
11:50 AM
I do not agree with all racing blog opinions posted here at Fox. But that doesn't mean that I don't ever agree with all of the authors at some point. And I do respect all that comment on a topic and validate why they choose that view. I am with HR13 on this that we need less kiss butt and more contrast in our views. We have favorites and friends, but we also need to debate the issues. Don't give or take it personally. There are quite a few good racing writers presently here - and the more the merrier.

volfan69
May 12, 2008
11:55 AM
moseby, thanks! However, I wasn't through with my rant.LOL You are a cool person, BTW. My last quote from photo is..."While we are on the issue of honesty with leaving a comment, I am looking forward to the day when Hoosier and I can get into an intelligent rebuttal on an opinion about an article. However it is hard to disagree with Hoosier. He is rarely wrong so far."

volfan69
May 12, 2008
12:04 PM
Last, if any of my comments insult anyone...I guess you have thin skin and you need to get over it. I didn't know there were unwritten rules as to the manner in which I can comment. If the rules are written, they are invisible to me. Someone needs to enlighten me. As far as spelling and whatever...as long as I can at least understand from the context of the blog what is being said it is okay. However, when you throw letters in a bag, shake them, and then print them to make words that don't exist, I DO have a problem. Someone please explain "seque" or please explain, "In fact, funny or not the who thing was intentionally written to bleep extreme that funny or not it's obvious it was an attempt at humor." SAY WHAT?

volfan69
May 12, 2008
12:09 PM
BTW, Noahspop, I made a negative comment and it most certainly was not taken with a grain of salt. Any advice for me? I'm done with you JW. I'm done with you HR13. I'm done with you vol. Oh, wait. I'm done with me? LOL

volfan69
May 12, 2008
12:45 PM
Hey, HR13, I asked on a blog by JW, and I want to ask you...did you realize that it was 8 years ago today that Adam Petty died? It was a very sad day in my life. I thought he was an awesome young man and I had much respect for him. Thanks again for your patience and understanding.

JOKERSWILD
May 12, 2008
1:05 PM
Hoosier--I didnt see this the first time I seen this post,,"YM is another who can always be counted upon to criticize uncivility while always posting comments in support of garbage like yours". If this is in reference to Yeemum I disagree with you she has a right to her oppinion as photogr and anyone else does she has always been kind and helpfull to me and new bloggers that I have seen....

HoosierRacer13
May 12, 2008
1:18 PM
JW,
My point about Yee Mum is she is always positive with everyone (with me being an occassional exception). It goes to what volfan69 quoted from photoman. If someone always gives glowing, gushy feedback to every single blog, is that something the blogger should feel good about. I'd rather hear from those who disagree with my opionions, like you have here, so there is something to discuss and debate. Just saying nice blog, great post, ad nauseum really serves no purpose. That is what I was talking about. Political correctness has run amok in this country and I speak out against it. But thanks for stopping by again.

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