Copperhead Road
by: Hanahan
Two Years and Counting
May 03, 2008 | 9:18PM | report this

It has now been two years and counting since Dale Earnhardt Jr. has won a Sprint Cup points race. Tick, tock, Clarise. He looked like he might fall into a win Saturday night at RIR after Denny Hamlin had a tire go down. Hamlin led most of the race until his tire problem with less than 20 laps to go. This gift wrapped the lead to Jr. He couldn't close the deal. He came down on Kyle Busch's car with three laps to go, and wrecked himself. This move also cost Busch any shot at the win.

Darrell Waltrip and Larry McReynolds both went out of their way to blame Busch for Earnhardt's mistake. Of course, DW and Larry Mac never let the truth get in the way of their myopic view of the action. Any unbiased viewer could see Jr's car come down on Busch's. Larry harped on Kyle's wheels turning to the right. True, AFTER Jr initiated the contact. Is there one Jr fan out there who saw what actually happened?

How about an unscientific survey? Leave a comment to place your vote.

A.   Jr. wrecked Kyle.

B.   It was just one of those racin' deals.

C.   Kyle wrecked Jr.

D.   I don't know. I was watching 'Law and Order' reruns.

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Mag_Man
May 3, 2008
9:28 PM
God, what race were you watching? I'm not a Jr. fan and even I could see (as Larry Mac said) Kyle turned his tires into Jr's car. And Waltrip was not anything but pro KB. You must have been watching the Friday night race....oh wait, that was Kyle Bush again. And you left out the intentional "Denny Hamlin Caution Stop". You're no nascar fan, you must love your boring life.

Hanahan
May 3, 2008
9:32 PM
Mag...so you're voting for D., right?

bytemoi
May 3, 2008
9:33 PM
E. I was watching the Spurs/Hornets Game.

Sounds like there's 'lota 'splainin' ta do.

Will you post the results of your unscientific poll?

Hanahan
May 3, 2008
9:37 PM
byter...I will certainly post the results. That's one E., and one D. so far.

photogr
May 3, 2008
9:48 PM
Hanahan:

I take B.

How ever, in my view both drivers were in the wrong. Too much passion in the waning laps and not enough smarts on positions on the track. Both were probably over the edge.

Hanahan
May 3, 2008
9:58 PM
photogr...glad to see you're back on the surfboard. B. is an excellent choice.

klvalus
May 3, 2008
10:06 PM
Ooohhh Hanahan you are gonna have some fun on this one!

To tell ya the truth, from a LONG TIME JR FAN, and being very used to him making some bone head moves every now and again, I thought he might have come down on Kyle. In the very least he pinched him down but it did appear Kyle got loose as soon as he turned into the corner so I will have to go with Photo and pick "B"...

Gotta go work on Hot or Not! oy what a mess thats gonna be!

Hanahan
May 3, 2008
10:39 PM
kris...wow. It's amazing how many otherwise sane people actually think that Kyle would wreck Jr on purpose. Could you analyze NASCAR fans to see why they're hardwired different than any other sports fans? I have some theories that I may put in a future blog.

There wasn't much Hot tonight. You might have to call this week's edition, 'Not or Not'. B^]>

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May 3, 2008
10:56 PM
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tylerhead24
May 3, 2008
11:03 PM
I'm going with B, Jr. was pinning Busch down, but he had to if he was going to keep the lead, and Busch got loose trying to out-brake Jr. in the corner. Racin' deal, we've seen it before, we'll see it again.

Hanahan
May 3, 2008
11:12 PM
Tyler...another voice of reason. It would be nice if these Jr fans knew that Kyle doesn't have to wreck Jr to beat him. He finishes in front of Jr every week. X-)

noahspop2001
May 3, 2008
11:57 PM
Larry Mac. Threw the tires turning right at Kyle even before the dust settled. D.W. did come back look at the replay and saw the cars were close together. Kyle got loose and he corected.
In an interview after the race on Hot Pass. Jr. said "I pinched him down on the bottom going into 3, he got loose" Jr. was not happy about it. But remember Tthey were in the last couple of laps.

24x2
May 4, 2008
1:21 AM
There is only one option though JR. fans will roast and toast anyone who touches the popular one. I do believe it is called racing? Silly me? If you understand this and are not bias.....B is the right answer.

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
7:55 AM
pop...so that's another B? See Tyler's comment above. Thanks.

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
7:57 AM
24x2...B it is.Thanks. The voting surprises me. I guess the Jr fans are afraid to comment on a post that doesn't drink the Jr Kool-Aid.

Forensic2
May 4, 2008
8:47 AM
Its C first leading to B. How can Dale make contack with Kyle. How can Dale make Kyle's car loose, A- taking off the air from his car when they are side by side? B - Why did Kyle think he could pass Dale when he couldn't do it down low before the last yellow ? C- Why did Kyle's car lurch forward one more time as they enter the turn, cause he needed to use Dale as a buffer to pass him.

Yes frame by frame will show all of this and that won't change your mind, but this is com9ng from on Dale Jr fan you know that looks at every angle. Noahpop get off the Larry Mac thing, he said that about Kyle when he saw the second replay showing the tires tuning in on Dale, DW then said it was cause he got loose. Who made him loose ?

For a driver to make another one loose is taking the air off the car or bumping from the rear. They were side by side and Dale was infront. Cheerss

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
10:15 AM
Fore...take off your Jr #### glasses. Kyle would have passed him clean if Jr had of taken the same line he had been running. The high line. Jr knew it and tried to pinch Kyle down low. Kyle was expecting Jr to keep running the same line. Your frame by frame will show Jr down on the bottom all of the sudden. Why?

Kyle took a much harder hit the night before and saved the car. Guess Jr isn't as good a car saver? (B^)

Bottom line...both guys were doing what they thought they had to for the win.

Dwindy1
May 4, 2008
10:27 AM
Hey Hanahan!

No doubt about it, I got to shout it! B is the one and only answer to this question...

As I've said elsewhere, if the roles were reversed in that run in, would the Jr. fans expect him to back off? If he did then young Earnhardt would have no reason to be out there racing in the first place... Any other driver besides Jr. or maybe Gordon and there wouldn't be any hub bub...

Thanks man!

williamwilman
May 4, 2008
11:02 AM
kyle wrecked him. he still had 5 laps to go by him and sometimes it takes that long to get by someone at richmond. sometimes longer. but kyle wanted it all and wanted it at that moment. the minute this boy shows some patience he is going to become championship material.
i ain't sayin he turned into him though. he just went in too hard and lost it.

Last edited by williamwilman on May 4th at 11:04 AM.

Forensic2
May 4, 2008
12:03 PM
Hanahan - The frame will show that Kyle had the low lane, the same one he had for the last 20 laps up to that point. Kyle never gets loose and Yes Dale pinch him down to that same lane Kyle has been driving in, the same lane Dale pass Kyle for second place.

LMAO - The night before Kyle was hit in the rear on a straight away, not in a turn. Bottom line Kyle used Dale's car as a buffer to stay under him so he can get ahead coming out of the turns. Kyle try and try this move before the restart and couldn't do it.

So I disagree with you which we have before and thats fine, Don't lose your class with the Jr glasses at me when you are a Kyle fan. You and I know if it was switch you be on here saying how Dale Jr is just like his Dad. I think you were the one talking down how Dale Sr would reck anyone to get a win. Looks like thats what Kyle has done.

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
12:16 PM
william...I think he's already championship material. He is leading the points.

I guess if Jr had not have been pinching him down, Kyle would have just spun himself out?

Eveyone says how impatient Kyle is based on one or two incidents per race. What about the 20 or 30 other times a race when he uses restraint but it's not on TV?

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
12:32 PM
Fore2...The #### whoops has erased my reply 3 times. We'll just have to disagree and still be friends. How could Kyle plan to use Jr as a buffer? How did he know that Jr wouldn't be using the high line that he had been using?

I've never said that about Dale Sr. He was like Kyle, good enough that he didn't have to wreck anyone it just happened. I am unbiased enough to say that Dale Sr was the best.

slshusker
May 4, 2008
12:33 PM
Jr. is the new Danica!

SpeedBeagle20
May 4, 2008
1:50 PM
We vote B.

Jr. said in his post race interview that he knew that Kyle got loose and that it was just one of those racing deals.

In defense of Larry Mac, he did (after watching the replay over and over)admit that Kyle DID NOT intentionally turn into Jr., but that the wheel movement was what one would expect to see from a driver trying to keep his car under control.

BTW- love the Waylon avatar. His family owned the farm next to my dad's family farm. According to the family story, the one time Waylon thought about asking one of my aunts for a date, Pawpaw ran him off with a shotgun, swearing up and down that that Jennings boy would never amount to anything.

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
2:35 PM
husker...even I wouldn't go that far. I would like to see someone with enough sack to wear that on a tee shirt at the Charlotte race.

blue@orange
May 4, 2008
2:56 PM
B. racin deal...

message recieved-message sent

what happened to nascar fans? are they to P.C now? we used to love guy's like Bush who raced hard...

dam; you changed your whole bio too? i loved that "oh brother where ar't thow" thing...

Last edited by blue@orange on May 4th at 2:59 PM.

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
3:18 PM
SB20..thanks. That's two more votes for B, and two for the Waylon avatar.

blue@orange
May 4, 2008
3:20 PM

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
3:21 PM
blue...thanks a lot, man. if the show had been on the other foot everything would be lovely. The same fans complaining about Kyle now, are the ones who thought it was great on Friday night when S. Wallace tried to wreck him.

I just got two votes for Waylon, and you're the only vote for Oh Brother. Later.

blue@orange
May 4, 2008
3:26 PM
Oh well , I tried, BTW, do you know where i could get a tin of that "DAPPER DAN"

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
3:27 PM
b@o...Ahh, that's some mighty fine pickin' an' a singin'.

You know that the blind guy is the stapler guy on 'Office Space'?

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
3:28 PM
Blue...Don't rightly know, but I am a Dapper Dan man. That movie kicks ####.

Tsfanpc
May 4, 2008
5:39 PM
Answer is B.

Jr. caused this by pinching Kyle down on the track. If Jr. had gone in alittle higher and Kyle a little lower. Then Kyle would have not gotten loose.

But like they say hindsight is 20/20.

NiqueDodson
May 4, 2008
5:57 PM
I saw the wreck. I'm not someone who understands racing that much but trying to learn. It looked like to me that jr tried to cut the other guy off and cut in front of him diving down. And got punched. I'm maybe wrong but it looked like jr's fault to me. So I vote A

Last edited by NiqueDodson on May 4th at 5:59 PM.

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
7:18 PM
Tsfan...thanks. That's one more B. They have a similar poll on the FOX NASCAR home page. It' unbelievable. 85% sa Jr was at fault, 10% say Kyle was at fault, while 5% say B.

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
7:22 PM
Nique...thanks for chiming in. A it is. That's how I voted also.

Some advice...if you're trying to understand racing, don't believe everything the TV announcers say. Trust your own eyes.

volfan69
May 4, 2008
8:52 PM
F. Whatever really happened it is good for the sport. (I didn't get to watch the race, but this sure has folks going at one another.) I'm not a fan of either driver. I like Burton, Kenseth, and Mears. Should I be writing a "hate" blog about something or someone?LOL Great post, thanks.

volfan69
May 4, 2008
8:54 PM
Hanahan, if you had added a choice of "who doesn't care" I would have picked that one.

aceinzhole
May 4, 2008
9:18 PM
C is the definate answer lets face it Kyle Busch is a wreckloose cannon he wrecked his own brother i mran come on are you guys blind lol. Also Denny Hamlin stopped on the track with a flat tire to bring out the caution to allow Kyle to have even a shot at Dale Jr. Because Jr. would have run away with the race he was walking away from them in the lead i was at the race and none of them would have caught Jr. if that caution from Denny didnt come out.And frame by frame as Jr. was nosing in front of Kyle you can clearly see Kyle Front tires turn into Jr.

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
9:49 PM
volfaan...thanks. Yes, you missed some excitement. Since it's you, I'll allow two write-in votes. So, that's one F, and one G.

Wow, all 3 of your drivers had bad luck in Richmond.

Hanahan
May 4, 2008
9:50 PM
ace...thanks for voting. Kyle turned right after Jr made contact with him. He had to turn right to save his car from spinning out.

moseby
May 5, 2008
9:21 AM
B. No question it was B. Kyle overdrove the corner and Jr. did start to pinch down. Kyle only corrected to the right after contact - that was pretty evident from the replay. I'm sure Forsenic2 will have good pictures to look at from Bowyer's in-car.

As usual you are right on about DW and Larry Mac. I jumped off my seat when DW screamed "Oh, No..No..you shouldn't have done that!" DW is such an I-D-I-O-T when it comes to reaction shots. You would think a 3-time Cup Champ would slow down his commentary until he could see it from every angle. Han, I like Kyle and Jr., but don't root for either. This was a racing deal with three laps to go - FOR THE WIN. How can anyone say different?

It's kind of ironic that the Son of what was the "Dirtiest Player in the Game" is always the recipient of being cheated on the track by another driver. Where is Terry Labonte when we need him...

Hanahan
May 5, 2008
10:51 AM
moseby...you're right about the wreck. If Jr. had of taken the same line he had taken every other lap he still could have finished 2nd. But, he was going for the win, so was Kyle. Forensic posted framexframe yesterday. He's adamant that Jr did no wrong.

You would not believe all the ijiots posting on here this weekend crying about Jr and crying about Hamlin parking on the track to wait for a caution. If they've never seen a driver do that before then they just started watching NASCAR this year.

Check out the fox poll on NASCAR home page. It's unbelievable close to 90% say it was Jr's fault. I wonder if all his fans can read the ballot correctly?

moseby
May 5, 2008
11:22 AM
There is a reason why I don't stay "plugged" in on the weekends. Still sorting through all the blog articles - Geez, you'd think Danica Patrick had just won an open wheel race.

Well at least we've got the drama back in our series. Got a kick out of Jr. saying that Kyle would need help getting out of Richmond. That was pretty darn funny.

Hanahan
May 5, 2008
11:37 AM
mose...I tuned in after the race, and I think there were 10 blogs in 10 minutes whining about Busch. So I had to poke my stick at them.

NASCAR's gotta be loving this. If Darlington wasn't sold out yet, it is now.

If Danica ever does win, I bet it will get more coverage than this little dust-up did.

HotfootLori
May 5, 2008
11:38 AM
I'm like moseby, I'm not on here on the weekends so I'm just wading through.

I'll vote A & C and a round of drinks for everyone are on me :)

moseby
May 5, 2008
11:54 AM
I'll buy 2nd round...as long as someone plays George Thorogood on the jukebox.

NiqueDodson
May 5, 2008
12:15 PM
Did you see the blog asking people to boycott the products that sponsor Kyle Busch? Your opinion?

Hanahan
May 5, 2008
12:30 PM
Lori...It sure is a lot of wading to do. Better wear rubber boots for most of it. I'll have Cuervo Gold Marguerita in honor of Cinco de Mayo.

Hanahan
May 5, 2008
12:34 PM
OK mose...I'll have one Bourbon, one Scotch, and one Beer, but I Dink Alone cause I'm Bad to the Bone with No Particular Place to Go.

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