Copperhead Road
by: Hanahan
Smoke is a Real Gone Cat
Apr 23, 2008 | 10:11PM | report this

Several sources are reporting that Tony Stewart and JGR have begun talks to let Stewart leave JGR at the end of this season. Stewart is under contract to JGR through the end of 2009. JGR switched manufacturers from Chevy to Toyota before the beginning of this season. Stewart has a relationship with GM and Chevy with his own race teams.

                                  After 10 years with Joe Gibbs Racing, Tony Stewart is on the verge of a deal to leave to race and partially own Haas CNC next season.

One scenario being rumored is that Stewart will go to the HAAS/CNC race team as a full partner and also drive one of their two Chevys. Joe Custer, GM for HAAS/CNC admitted that they have talked with Stewart's people. He said they are very interested, yet have talked with other groups also. ESPN.com and SI.com are reporting that it's a done deal.

Rick Hendrick is said to be calling the shots for HAAS/CNC while their owner, Gene Haas, sits in jail on tax charges. Hendrick is the main reason that Stewart would consider leaving Joe Gibbs after 10 years together. Hendrick could promise Stewart even more help atan HMS gives HAAS now. There would also be the posibility of Hendrick helping Stewart start his own team sooner or later. Rick Hendrick made the deal with Dale Earnhardt Jr. work. He could do the same with Stewart. 

                               

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jon_464
Apr 23, 2008
10:29 PM
I wrote a similar blog an hour ago that the site failed to post. I reposted it, hopefully it'll post. Somehow yours posted and I wrote mine an hour beforehand and it DIDN'T post.

IF Stewart does go to Haas, it's in effect going to Hendrick. What a lineup they would have! The new Evil Empire of NASCAR.

Hanahan
Apr 23, 2008
10:38 PM
jon...Yeah, I saw your post ahead of mine in line at the NASCAR category in the waiting area. I was surprised to see mine post before yours.

Check out SI.com. they seem pretty sure that Tony is going to HAAS.

Hanahan
Apr 23, 2008
10:44 PM
jon...your post is still in the waiting room---bullpen? on deck circle? Click on... view all NASCAR posts.....and there it sits.

tophatal
Apr 23, 2008
11:44 PM
hanahan
The real reason 'Smoke' wants to leave JGR was because his female stalker sent him this particular picture with a letter detailing her sexual exploits. But most of all it detailed what she'd like to do to him.



fat-lady-on-top

Can't say that I blame him for wanting out after seeing this.



'Smoke' supposedly wants to be either a co owner or own a team entirely within NASCAR's highest echelons as a Sprint Cup participant. He may well get his chance given his track record.



tophatal ............

tophatal
Apr 23, 2008
11:52 PM
hanahan
And by all accounts she's got a twin sister who also wants "in" on the action.




fat-lady-cake

Always willing to do anything for her favorite guy.......'Smoke' aka Tony Stewart.

'Smoke' should tap 'em both as a goodwill gesture. That way they can wear identical T-shirts saying 'I'm a female NASCAR fan and we both got smoked by Tony Stewart'.



tophatal ...........


Last edited by tophatal on April 23rd at 11:55 PM.

HotfootLori
Apr 24, 2008
6:46 AM
From another news source: JGR president J.D. Gibbs told ESPN.com that Stewart wasn't going anywhere right now. "The reality is he's racing here through 2009. There's no ifs, ands or buts about that one. Our stance is he's racing for us through 2009."

We all figured he would be leaving JGR right ... I guess the media wants to play up the "WHEN IS HE LEAVING" issue as something.

I don't see that the "when" is much of a big deal as "where" he goes. If he leaves a top-notch team to go to a bottomfeeder, I would be highly upset. I just think Smoke is too business savvy to do that, though. Will be interesting.

Last edited by HotfootLori on April 24th at 6:47 AM.

weathyandbeauty
Apr 24, 2008
6:55 AM
I agree the topic is trivial but that's why the article is 1/3rd of a page long. I saw the coach on a celebrity and millionaire dating site

site called richmatchmaking.com****,

JayJayDean
Apr 24, 2008
7:17 AM
tophatal - it is TOO damn early in the morning for those pics, man! Though, Jumbo in the second pic is obviously a Junior fan.

If Hendrick is making the calls for Haas CNC, how about Smoke and Brad Keselowski in their two cars next year? That would be interesting. I hope Stewart takes a LONG look at Michael Waltrip's situation, and then takes another LONGER look at it. Owner/drivers haven't exactly been tearing it up in NASCAR for some time, and it isn't going to get any easier for a team to crack NASCAR's "big four".

Hanahan
Apr 24, 2008
7:43 AM
Lori...I saw the report on espn.com. Tony's publicist also said he wasn't leaving this year in that same report. Read the report on SI.com. I also spoke with a NASCAR team member who says it's pretty well known that Tony is leaving at the end of the year.

None of it makes sense though. Why leave a championship team to start over? The SI story tells of when DW left Hendrick to start his own team. With Hendrick's blessing, and help. They say Rick might be promising Tony the same kind of deal.

Hanahan
Apr 24, 2008
7:50 AM
JJD...Chevrolet must be promising Tony the moon. Tony must have really felt bad when JGR switched to Toyota. Instead of accepting it and winning races like his teamates, he's taking his ball and going to another playground.

I would love to see him in the #70 or #66 just to see what those cars really could do with a great driver behind the wheel. Keselowski better win A race soon. Jr's friendship will only kep him there so long.

JayJayDean
Apr 24, 2008
7:58 AM
Keselowski better win A race soon. Jr's friendship will only kep him there so long.

I dunno about THAT. BK is consistently among the highest-finishing Nationwide drivers, and he's sixth in points behind only five Cup drivers. I can't believe he's in any danger of even talking about being in trouble.

klvalus
Apr 24, 2008
8:28 AM
Hanahan...I think this all might be media hype and quite frankly I will not be able to stand another media craze like we had with "where is Jr going". It seemed obvious Tony was looking around once Gibbs went to Toys but my guess is the when will be when his contract ends. I agree with others above, the owner/driver deal isnt working out so well and if he does anything of the sort it makes the most sense to do it like Gordon has with HMS.
I dunno, seems like a lot of media smoke to me...

tophatal
Apr 24, 2008
8:41 AM

JayJayDean
Is she really is a Lil' E fan then she's obviously not letting on. I think though she's real NASCAR groupie that's out to get it any way that she can.
It'd be remiss of JGR to let 'Smoke' out of his contract before the end of this season. So it must portend to the '09 season on the whole. If that's the case and he does want to leave to go elsewhere and have his team. Then so be it. It's obvious that it wasn't going to happen under the JGR umbrella. The likes of Jeff Gordon and others either have teams that they own outright and is running in either Cup Series or Nationwide Series.
It's patently obvious that he wants a slice of that pie and all thatn it affords those particular owners. I'm sure that he could find the financial backing to get something off the ground given his track record.



tophatal .......

Hanahan
Apr 24, 2008
9:14 AM
kris...It looks like it will turn into another media craze. Unless Tony and JGR announce something very soon. We saw how quickly the Kurt Busch and Jammie Mac deals went from next year to next month.

NASCAR may be the only sport in which the participant can buy out of his contract. the first time I heard of this happening was back in the '70s when DW---or his new team---paid DiGard Racing to leave them.

Hanahan
Apr 24, 2008
9:19 AM
JJD...BK hasn't impressed me. Doesn't win, or even lead a lot of laps.

But then again, a certain two-time, and current Cup champion didn't do much more in the Busch Series either. So Brad may be a future Cup champ.

Hanahan
Apr 24, 2008
9:21 AM
top....good point about Jeff Gordon's situation.

Please don't post anymore pictures at 3 in the morning. It's obvious you're judgement was a wee bit impaired.(B^)

volfan69
Apr 24, 2008
10:39 AM
I just heard an interview with J.D. Gibbs. He said, "We're focusing on the things we can control. We can control 2008 and 2009. That is our focus. Tony has to plan for his future and we hope he retires from here." That doesn't tell us a lot does it?

volfan69
Apr 24, 2008
10:39 AM
I need to learn to scroll down faster. Those are some nasty pics. My eyes hurt.

tophatal
Apr 24, 2008
10:48 AM
volfan69
What it does portend to is that Stewart won't be with the organization after this season. He wants out and it'll happen. They're certainly not going to want an unhappy driver within their organization at all. Stewart it'd appear wants to do thing by his own measures. And that's either to become an outright owner or in partnership with someone else. It certainly didn't happen within the confines of JGR .

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hanahan
It's obvious that's what Stewart wants as he's seen those other guys make a ton of money. Why it is that JGR didn't offer him something along those lines is beyond most of us. It seems to have worked out well for Jeff Gordon and HMS. It's sound economic business sense. Especially when you consider the popularity of the driver.



tophatal ...........

Hanahan
Apr 24, 2008
11:07 AM
volfan...Hey there. It sounds as if JD has resigned himself to the fact that Tony's leaving. Sooner, rather than later. Notice that there is no mention of JGR working on a new contract for Tony. On the other hand Tony's agent could be magging all these rumors just to blow up Tony's value.

volfan69
Apr 24, 2008
11:10 AM
I don't know much about those contracts. Can Gibbs actually refuse to let Stewart out of the deal? As top said, I don't think they would want an unhappy Tony in the fold. Just wondering.

Hanahan
Apr 24, 2008
11:22 AM
vol....I believe they could hold Tony to his contract. Could you imagine how difficult it would be to work a whole season with an unhappy Tony Stewart? If Tony takes Home Depot with him that will probably cause him to pay JGR a lot more, than if it was just him leaving by himself.

Dwindy1
Apr 24, 2008
11:43 AM
Hey Hanahan!

I just hope this doesn't boil down to a media driven kicking match and that's exactly the way it appears to be headed. It's no good for anyone... Witness the Chad Johnson mess.

Dwindy1
Apr 24, 2008
11:48 AM
BTW, volfan69 asked me a question about payouts in NASCAR... Her question: Does the Indy race pay out more than Daytona? Since you're my NASCAR expert and I don't have a clue, what is the answer? I see volfan was on here a little earlier...

Thanks Waylon... err Hanahan... Yeah, that's right!

JayJayDean
Apr 24, 2008
11:58 AM
JJD...BK hasn't impressed me. Doesn't win, or even lead a lot of laps.

Name a Nationwide-only driver who DOES. It's a short list.

moseby
Apr 24, 2008
12:02 PM
Han,

You need to go look at JL III's selection of Best All-Time Offensive Lineman on the NFL side.

I nominated some of your old Dolphin big-uglies.

moseby
Apr 24, 2008
12:12 PM
Dwindy1,

I think the top-end payout (1st place for the race) for the Indy 500 is close, but the overall purse should be higher for Daytona. They combine the entire Speedweeks output for the Shoot-out, Twin 150's and the 500. Believe that before the 2001 Fox/NBC/TNT TV contracts the Indy 500 purse was higher overall.

Hanahan
Apr 24, 2008
12:12 PM
D-1....It sure looks like it's gonna turn in to the kind of media driven #### that we had last year with the Dale Jr saga.

Quick answer to vol is NO. This year's Daytona 500's total purse payout was over 16 million. Daytona 500 of 2007 paid out 15, 640,508.

Last year's Brickyard 400 paid out 9,325,620 in total prize money.

If she meant the Indy 500, last year's purse was 10,668,815, of which the winner got 1,645,233. Which he then handed over to Ms. Judd.

I'm sending you some good sites on foxmail.

volfan69
Apr 24, 2008
12:25 PM
Hey, guys, thanks. I was talking about the NASCAR race at Indy. I should have clarified that, sorry.

Hanahan
Apr 24, 2008
12:28 PM
JJ...you are correct!

Hanahan
Apr 24, 2008
12:39 PM
mose... I went and checked it out. Left a comment for you.

moseby
Apr 24, 2008
12:45 PM
Yep, got it. Lachey was All-Pro at least twice before trade to Redskins. Only guy I ever saw that stood a chance vs. Reggie White. Jumbo was very good but Lachey was better.

tophatal
Apr 24, 2008
1:26 PM
hanahan
volfan69
It's dependent upon how the wording of the contract. Also there may well be a buyout clause in there. But that's normally predicated upon disatisfaction between the two parties involved in the agreement. In this case we clearly don't know if there's been some sort of disagreement between the two parties. But something is definately awry at this juncture and neither party is alluding to what that is at this momemnt in time.




tophatal ........

JOKERSWILD
Apr 24, 2008
2:53 PM
Hanahan if indeed they are part of hendrick you are correct sir start up the death star

slshusker
Apr 24, 2008
5:24 PM
Smoke isn't going anywhere in 2009.

Now if it's attention he's after, he should switch to Indy Racing, which usually had 17-19 cars in a race. A blind squirrel would win, based on averages.
That or implants!

edhardiman
Apr 24, 2008
6:08 PM
Hanahan,
What I don't understand is NASCAR allowing teams to poach each other's drivers when they're under contract...it's a brave new NASCAR world I guess, great scribble as always...Gibbs hopes Smoke will retire with his team...but insists the contract will be honored...

tophatal
Apr 24, 2008
6:25 PM
NASCAR is becoming this year's answer to the NFL. Not necessarily drivers wanting to renege on their contracts when they've got obligations to their employers.
Go figure ?


tophatal .........

Hanahan
Apr 24, 2008
6:34 PM
J Dub....What if Hendrick got rid of Casey Mears, and hired Tony?

Hanahan
Apr 24, 2008
6:41 PM
husker...The blind squirrel would win when everyone else has to stop for gas.

Hanahan
Apr 24, 2008
6:46 PM
ed...It seems sort of like the contracts are similiar to a coach's. They can buyout of them, on both sides I guess. Good to see you back.

photogr
Apr 24, 2008
7:57 PM
Well there you go. Another chapter on the never ending silly season.

noahspop2001
Apr 24, 2008
11:26 PM
I heard Smoke is getting a team together. Chevy is bringing back Yugo. It will be the fastest compact ever....

Tsfanpc
Apr 26, 2008
3:08 PM
All of this is very interesting. I really hope that Smoke stays at Gibbs. But I understand why he might want to try something new.

Maybe this is one of the reasons that Bobby Labonte has not resigned with Petty or any other team. Maybe Smoke and Labonte are thinking of doing something together over at Haas CNC. Just something else for you to think about.

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