Yes I know Falcon, Not another Dale Jr post. When someone hates a driver as much as to comment on ever post about Dale Jr's win this weekend and how NASCAR gave him the win it just started to get to me and want to say WHAT THE PUCK is up. You have made it perfectly clear time after time comment on other post and on some of your own when you are praising Kyle Shrubb Busch and putting down Dale Jr. Anyone new on here would think that Kyle is your favorite driver the way you go on about him and how he is doing better then Dale Jr and has more wins and how Mr Hendricks did the wrong thing dropping Kyle for Dale Jr.
First Kyle spoke out that he was not happy at Hendricks due to the fact that Jeff and Jimmie seem to be getting the better cars etc. Thinking that might change with him speaking up maybe. Three to four weeks later Dale Jr announces that he wants to leave DEI and is looking for a team. OOpps I guess I am not going to get better cars now and will be looking for a new team for real. It has turn out to be the best thing for both drivers and owners. So why keep on about this and that just to show how much you hate Dale Jr I ask you ?
Back to your favorite driver and I will walk on ice on this cause I know a few will blast me for if I don't. Dale Jr has had a better season so far then Jeff Gordon and now with the win he is tied with Jimmie in wins. Could this be why you need to show so much hate for Dale Jr cause he is doing better then your favorite driver and you got nothing good to say about Jeff. I am sure you will real soon. I know Jeff Gordon will not put up with what is going on and it will get turn around. Last year you were posting how your driver was going to over take his team mate Jimmie and show the young guy what he was made of during the chase and it didn't happen. Another championship stolen from Jeff Gordon who I have said many times that he has had 2 taken away because of the chase.
Now about this win. I will give you that NASCAR bent a rule that has been bent before for drivers trying to conserve fuel. Gregg Biffle last year didn't keep up to pace car speed and got the win. other drivers have passed the pace car before and nothing was done, others have bump the pace car and that is a no no. Nothing was done about it. So lets say they did bend the rule on that because they new why he was doing it.
#1. NASCAR had no way of knowing how much gas Dale had in the car or when he would run out.
#2. Dale Jr still had to race a green white and checker to win the race which you seem to be forgetting before he would be crown the winner. Again NASCAR had no hand in that.
#3. The Green is drop and he takes off, during this lap no one passes him for the lead that lap. Again NASCAR had no say in that.
#4. A car spins half way around the last lap and the yellow has to come out because the front runners would be coming to were that car crashed. His car sputtered for gas right then meaning he wouls have run out and been passed by Kasey and who knows how many coming to the checkers. Don't tell me NASCAR told that car to reck so they could throw the yellow and make sure he would win.
#5. He was running second to Carl Edwards who wins the race and his car didn't past inspection and the reason why makes his car have better down force, maybe if Dale Jr did the same thing that race he would have nip Carl at the line for the win.
#6. He was on his way to a win when a team mate stop on the track setting up his other team mate to catch up to Dale Jr. We all know how that turned out.
#7. Dale wins one of the shoot outs right off the bat this year and everyone said it don't count cause its not a points race. What did all the other drivers say I don't want to win this race because its non points race ? Dale Jr could be sitting with 4 wins with one being a nonpoints race and 3 point races if the rule book was followed to the fullest.
#8. The race length was exstended to a green,white checker and if that rule had not been brought in he won the race with out trying to save gas.
#9. You can cut him down and say how bad he is etc, etc. Funny thing is that he has done a better job this year so far then Jeff Gordon and all you can say is he will be in the hunt. I feel for you because this year I think will be a tight cut off on the 12 teams making it into the big show.
#10. You keep bringging up that he got away with it in another race. He was put down a lap and then they over turned it after seeing the video. So to be right by scoring he had to pass the pace car and come around just like the lucky dog winners do.
So NASCAR might have bent a rule and I wish it never happen becuase I knew what would be said. But you know what ! He has been screw out of a few wins this year so I say suck it and get over it. I would be more worried and blogging about what is going on with the set ups of Jeff Gordons cars then trying to compaire Kyle to Dale every week. At least I would be and have done before about Dale Jr and Tony E.
How you take this is up to you ? I am just sticking up for my driver and saying enought is enought. Cheersss
F2-way to stand by your driver and you have some solid points on Jr. and pop2008 almost every comment he leaves on my posts are anti Jr. but hey thats his oppinion I don't like K.Busch but that dosn't mean that I don't give him credit when its deserverd because I do and Have the blogs to prove it..And I dont know about anyone else but as far as I concerned the win is in the books and who are we to rewrite history he won and thats that analize it all you want but it will always stand as a win..nuff said.
Forensic, I stated earlier and I will state again: DON'T PASS THE PACE CAR. It was explained that the rule applies to drivers going onto pit road and coming off pit road. They are not to pass the pace car in order to gain a lap on the field. What Jr., did was not bending the rules. He was trying to save gas. He would throttle it a little and move beyond the pace car and then coast back. GERREL has agreed with me on this also. I am thankful for that. Anyway, JR. DID NOT PASS THE PACE CAR!!! Did all of you see the restart? He was behind the pace car when it pulled off the track for the restart. For the love of God, everyone needs to let it go. The same person to whom this blog is directed said Jr., passed the pace car and he said that Jr., did not maintain the correct speed. SO, did the pace car not maintain the correct speed? You know, it just can't be both ways. I'm sick of his comments also. I don't want to start problems--none of us need that, but IF YOU ARE A TRUE FAN OF NASCAR THEN YOU KNOW THAT NASCAR DOES NOT RIG RACES! To imply that NASCAR let Jr., win is an insult to all true fans of racing and I, for one, am just sick of it. Well, okay, I feel better. Thanks for letting me rant. Much respect to you. (Just shut up and blog.LOL)Surely, by now, everyone knows that I AM NOT A JR., FAN, don't they?
F2- Very good points. I like what Joker and Volfan both said. Its just to bad that unless its your driver then who cares. Each and every driver has there following. But why hate on a driver who did what he had to do to win? Im not a fan of Jimmie but I wrote some good stuff about him last year during the chase. We all should be able to praise our drivers when they do something good. But it seems that there a few who try to ruin the party. Every dog will have his day. If a person doesnt like Jr. Then maybe that person should just stay away from the boards knowing that his fans are going to praise him.
Forensic2.....Good Grief, you know better than to compare stats of these two drivers. One season should not be "The Second Coming" We have so few non-Jr. fans, I think you can put up with a little "MUD IN YOUR EYE!" Can you feel my pain from last year? I am still missing feathers. Jr. is doing GREAT, and SMILE it confuses people!
Hey, I apologize for my rant. It really is based on the fact that I love all forms of racing. If someone really believes that a racing organization "fixes" races then I feel that person is not a true fan. I hope that makes sense. It is just how I feel and I apologize if I offended anyone.
24x2, did you hear the theory that Jr., won because Hendrick is "giving all of his good stuff" to Jr., and ignoring Jeff, Jimmie, and Casey? My gosh, how could anyone really think he would do that? That also upset me. I am a Casey fan, and I know that the theory isn't true. Just wondering if you heard that garbage.
volfan69....They accused Jimmie, of relieving himself in a gas tank in Atlanta. Nothing, surprises me the peafowl. I will note that if I had a quarter for every bad comment made here(blog heaven) about Jimmie, & Jeff, I would be on a plastic surgeons table getting a feather lift!!!!!!! CONGRATS TO JR.
Forensic- I havent been on much so will have to go thru and read this blogger's comments (or not...sounds like they are not worth any time or attention).
Care to join me in a happy dance? Jr won! Jr won! yipee!!
Now everyone needs to wish real hard for Kurt to win at Sonoma so I can get into Victory Lane!!!
On the Jr. passing the pace car incidents. It is ok to do that as long as you don't drive off way passed the pace car and pull back behind the pace car. Most of the times he was along side the pace car but the driver of the pace car seemed to be slowing down rather than Jr. speeding up. If it is Jr., it is ok to do that.
Klvalus: Mikey will dominate at the next race. Heard he led a couple laps at Michigan.
The problem with Mikey is that he thinks its his job to ensure that there is a green white checkered. and the problem with that is he never lets it get to the checkered part.
Since I didn't get to see the race (we don;t have cable or satellite, so no races until they go back to Richmond), the only comment I will make on Jr. passing the pace car is that Tony regularly plays bumper tag with the pace car when he has the lead and nothing is ever said. I've even seen him come up along side the pace car a few times- nothing said.
Forensic- I sent you a FOXmail, but I'm not sure it went through. Let me know if you got it.
SB is right, Tony does like to play with the pace car, especially if it's Brett Bodine driving. I have heard Zippy tell him that NASCAR was warning him to lay off the pace car though. Same as they did to Jr. I dont see what the big deal was, and he was behind and in line coming out of turn 4 on the restart in plenty of time. The haters need to get over it.
Hey forensic.. I did go off half cocked. I admit it. Jr. did what he had to to win. Na$car has to play the same rules to everyone though. If you go years back, my guy Jeff Gordon did the same thing at Dega. I didn't think that was right. Sr. was famous for it. Like you also said about the Biff.
No go back to last year in Canada when Robbie Gordon got spun out, never stopped yet got told to move back positions. Kinda seems like a double edge sowrd. Also when Kurt Busch and Jimmy Spencer beat on eachother at Michagan one year. Jimmy was suspended, Kurt was probation. Kurt was fighting for a championship Jimmy was not. So nascar needs to be even with the rules.
I will give Jr. his props. he did everything he had to to win.
F2,
What a rant against noahspop for simply saying the rules should be applied equally to all whether you are a star or not. I'm glad Jr. won and will be happy if he wins a championship BUT what good does it do for Cup officials to issue multiple warnings of a violation if they don't intend to do more. It's like telling your toddler next time he tries to put his finger in an electric socket that you are going to smack his hand over and over and never actually smack it - what does that teach him???
Jr. ignored the multiple warnings because he knew NASCAR wouldn't have the balls to do anything to him.
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I agree with B&R - noahspop is a class act who only said rules should be applied equally regardless of whether it is a star or a nobody or a rookie or whatever. NASCAR is just like the NBA in terms of giving its stars special treatment. It's a pocketbook issue.
Forensic2 Not to worry, there are not as many anti-Dale fans here as on the pages...good grief! Believe me I suffer the barrage of comments when I post regarding Dale....Pioneer
Jokerswild - I agree, I have given Kyle Busch credit as well, I think he is the best driver NASCAR has that can hold on to a loose race car etc. I don't like his all or nothing because that can take others with him when its nothing.
cheers
Volfan69 - Thanks for that about why the rule is in place. It shows even more he wasn't doing anything but trying to save gas. About the pace car is a great point to bring up and I see Photogr thought the same thing. You can rant anytime on here. cheers
24X2 - My peafowl of sun light. Compare stats of which 2 drivers, Dale and Jeff or Dale and Kyle ? I do have a smile on my face, I have not shaven in a few weeks so you can't see my smile. lol .
You don't need a feather lift and I will admit of of some seed picking on Jimmie and Chad once in awhile. But not every single week or to say bad seed tast. cheers R
Klvalus - I can not answer that on if it is worth anytime or not, thats not my call. I have only wanted to bring up whats been said now and the past. I have blasted Tony Stewart more then any driver for doing things and its funny how I can do that and still have friends on here that are die hard Tony Stewart fans.
Thats becuase I have also wish them luck on their driver winning as well. Yes I will join you in a happy dance!!!!
Degraff - I see you can show some love, even if it might hurt alittle. Cheers
SB 20 - Yes Tony has had some fun at times with the pace car and they have let it go. Its a no on the FOX mail, I didnt recive one from you today unless they are now reading everyones fox mail before sending them all the way now. lol Cheers
Sweetkena - Tony is like Dale at times when they are having fun racing. It is a blast to hear them on the radio laughing and having fun while they race. Dale has lost that for awhile now and I hope this will lite the spark to have fun first and the ret will fall into place. Cheers
Noahspop - I respect you as a person and blogger and you have the right to say anything you want about who ever you want. I just had enought of you blasting Dale Jr for this and that leading up to this weekend and I finaly had to say whats the deal? Do we have a official rule on this or are we guessing to what we all think is wrong to pass the pace car which we all have heard is wrong.
Now NASCAR has said it is to keep other cars from passing it to get their lap back. If so then Dale wasn't doing anything wrong. Now about the Robby Gordon deal which I did do a frame by frame on that race. Road courses are a funny thing because the yellow can come out only in a section and not a full course yellow.
Robbie got spun out right after the first yellow that came out for that section and as they came up to the next section the man started to wave his yellow for a full course yellow and was already side ways. NASCAR had to decide when did the track become a full course yellow and where was everyone at that point. It seem at that point Robby was trying to get going again after being passed by a few cars.
I don't blame Robby for not taking the black flag because if he wins the protest he would only get were he finished. So keep going and take the checker flag and then protest. If you won you got the win. If you take the black flag and go a lap down and win the protest you still lost out because they can't give you a better finish.
Unless you are tlaking about a different race, to me it had to do with were he was on the track because the pace car had not picked up Marcus Am
Ambros. So keeping up to the pace car had nothing to do with it. I was in the wrong as well and should have fox mailed you instead of going off half cocked. I hope Noah is still ok to flag the GGW Racing events. Cheerss... Jamie
B&R - You are no longer a member of this forum, and I guess you are also 1824fan. If not I say this to both of you. I do think Noahspop is a class act as well, I was just asking for some reasons to be so hard on a driver all the time.
My rant as you call it wasn't just about the rules should applied equally to all. I have done many frame by frames saying the same thing. I have also showed or said at times Dale Jr doing wrong as well and also gave drivers their do when called for it. That is all, I should have kept it between me and him and I have said my sorry for that only.
cheers and for some reason I am thinking 13 ?
Pioneerof50- I hear you. I exspect it on a few blogs depending on the subject, you have to when you say something not good about a driver etc. If you are not a fan of that blogers favorite driver most likely you are not going to like what is said, and if you do then most likelly that is a friend that knows you are just ridding/kidding with them about their favorite driver and we still have peace. Good to see you again and you need to start racing in the Show Your Moon Tour.
Cheers
You are no longer a member of this forum - does that mean you don't want me to post my opinion? If so I won't although I don't see anything inappropriate or offensvie about it.
Barbara
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B&R thats what it said from fox when I click on your name. So I thouht they got on to you and deleted you and you came back as 1824fan. That is why I said what I said. Really HR you can comment all you want. lol. cheers
Speedbeagle and Volfan69 - Yes I got them and thank you I am alittle behind trying to get caught up on reading everyones post and watching the show your moon tour race. thanks again and always Cheers.
Forensic- You made very valid points on the issue of jr and the pace car here. I was at the race, and honestly didnt think it was a big deal at all...because we knew what jr was doing, and he did not pass the pace car.
I am a bit behind on my blog reading too, so I must have missed the blog with noahspops comments on Jr.
Gerrel,
It may not have been that big a deal but to say
"he did not pass the pace car" is just not true.
Why did NASCAR warn him if he didn't????? Why did his crew chief warn him if he didn't????
He most certainly passed the pace car and was warned and if it had been a non-star, say a Robby Gordon, there is no doubt in my mind he would have been penalized.
Before Jr. Nation explodes with hatred toward me, I am a Jr. fan and hope he wins a championship unless Jeff Gordon does. I just think it was typical inconsistency on Cup officials part.
Forensic,
Not sure why it says I don't exist when you click on my name since obviously I do. I had another person tell me that as well. Anyway, I know I exist and you can see my comments so you know I exist. Confused by the whole 1824/HR references though.
Barbara....I welcome another woman, it is true it won't let me see your bio. I just can't see Hoosier saying "toddler" in fact he probably eats small children for lunch. (Sorry!) A peafowl never tells a lie, except to the I.R.S. and EX-Husbands.
1824fan.....All 10 are single, were rich, handsome but gray from having married me as I drive my new "Raging Bull" 2009 Lamborghini Gallardo Lp560-4. My Lambo can hit 60mph in 3.7 seconds and run all the way to 202mph. It is to beautiful, but I usually drive my Chevy pick-up truck. Not bad for a lady who can't spell! I have found Husband 11, he owns the Lambo dealership. SHOVEL ANYONE!
GGW Racing, Frame by Frame, Show Your Moon Tour Blogs are what you get. Sorry all who like my music but for now its on hold cause it was the thing locking my computer up on here. Till I get the sound card figure out.
