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Shut Up NASCAR and Drive
Jun 15, 2008 | 5:39AM | report this

NASCAR  president Mike Helton told the drivers and teams to stop all the complaining about the COT and everything to do with it track conditons,heat conditons and anything else. Well maybe if you had not jump to a full season with this car with only running a few races the year before whitch had alot of bad feed back from drivers it might not have reach a all time high. The drivers today do have it made compared to the old school guys that drove before them.  That didn't stop them from speaking out about something NASCAR was doing or changing that they didnt like.

You had drivers and teams test tires for this car and they gave you feed back whitch was not used and you had problems in the start of the season with tires. Drivers were at risk more then they should have been. This car is now more tighter fit with only the drivers window to bring in fresh air. 

At one of the bull ring race tracks drivers said they smelled more fumes then every before. I know alot of the drivers have the freash air system but if that dies out like Gregg Biffle's did a few weeks ago then he is at the mercy of what ever the car can give him for fresh air. I did notice of a few pictures that showed the car being tested the Brett Bodine who was the lead tester for this car at Bristole the passenger window was missing below ( Photo by Randall Perry )

Before the teams /drivers had a choice to what make of car and alot of other stuff to make the driver comfortable in his car. If the car gets to hot in side it is the fault of the team and make of car. Now it is your fault NASCAR if the drivers are getting to hot or if the darn car is still a brick going over bumps thats hurting the drivers, then they should be speaking up and not shutting up. Most fans think the Pocono race is too long and we didn't need the drivers to finaly complain about it.

You don't listen to the fans even if you said you stride too, Mike would you go eat the food at the stands and pay that much for a hambuger and drinks ? Not !  You are makeing living off what the drivers risk life and limbs each week and you look preatty healthy. What are you doing for the fans who are having this tought time with the gas prices etc. Have the ticket prices come down ? Have the food stand prices come down to help out the fans ? 

Now I can add about 80% think you need to shut -up and drive and let the drivers speak on what you called the car of tomarrow now today and anything else. You have more on your hands right now that has hurt the NASCAR name then drivers speaking out on the car you have made them all adapt to this year. I will applude you on making this car safer in how it is contructed to keep the driver safe during a crash. Lets just make sure the drivers don't end up with any long term affects as well. Lets test the cars during a full race and make sure how much exhust fumes are getting into the car and staying in it for a full race.

I know, Shut up Forensic and drive !  I will as soon as the post is up.

Side note to ESPN crew for the Nationwide race last night pull a nice over lay on to the side of NASCAR about this law suit. They no not to bite the hand that feeds you I guess. I will bite the hand that feeds me if it has been somewhere its not suppost to be. lol

Cheers and take care and God bless...................

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Dwindy1
Jun 15, 2008
9:15 AM
Hey Forensic!

How does it go?

Get in, Sit down, Shut-up, hold on!

elad64
Jun 15, 2008
9:27 AM
The talking heads on speed this morning are saying that NASCAR said you guys are making millions and their are plenty of drivers out there willing to take your place. Sounds like shutup and drive to me or you could be replaced.

frevr3fan
Jun 15, 2008
11:15 AM
F2- It was like post wrote earlier in the year. The car is still at least 2 years from being ready to race a full season without all the problems that they have been having with it. The drivers are at the mercy of Brian and Mike. Its to bad that they don't pay more attention to the feedback like they should. Good Post. I really mean it.

Texascudaguy
Jun 15, 2008
11:24 AM
Gotta agree with 3 on this one. While yes the drivers do complain too much, this car was NOt ready when they introduced it, it was Not ready when they made it the fulltime car, and its still Not what it should be...but at least Goodyear's sorry excuse for a tire seems to be working better on this car.

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Forensic2
Jun 15, 2008
1:32 PM
Dwindy1 - Yes class as started and don't be late for the last bell or you will have to sit after class why the others go play.lol. cheers

volfan69
Jun 15, 2008
1:35 PM
Well, just shut up and blog!LOL You always do an outstanding job and I appreciate you. Thanks.

Forensic2
Jun 15, 2008
1:37 PM
Elad64 - Sure sounds like it, But NASCAR forgot one thing they do not and can not replace a driver with another who will say yes sir and no sir and shut up when told too. thanks for the info. Cheers

Forensic2
Jun 15, 2008
1:45 PM
Frevr3 - You got it. How can they make it better if the drivers don't say whats wrong with it. OK maybe not to say it live on air how bad it is can be just to meetings only. But not to hear what they got to say is just to funny. I think that is how this law suit came about when a manager wouldn't listen to one of the small people that help keep it going. cheers

Forensic2
Jun 15, 2008
1:48 PM
Texascudaguy - I agree and like I said I am all for the new safty issues this new car protecting the drivers is great. Tires that another post and I am ready to race now. cheers

Forensic2
Jun 15, 2008
1:57 PM
Volfan69 - I have to say that is the nicest thing anyone as ever said to me after telling me to shut up. LMAO. Comming from you that will be still in my heart till we cross paths in the after life and you show me how to make a school bus do a willy down the drag strip.

As I appreciate you as a golden sun ray of light to brighten up my day as you do for others on here. Cheers Volfan69... Jamie

volfan69
Jun 15, 2008
2:22 PM
Forensic, your driver won! I bet you and Kristen are so happy! Congrats to both of you. At least Kenseth was up front for me. Enjoy!

Forensic2
Jun 15, 2008
2:58 PM
Thanks Volfan69. Why didn't they give him some gas and go do a burn out ? Yes Matt was and if the official didn't try to be a hood ordament he might have gotten closer. cheers

frevr3fan
Jun 15, 2008
9:00 PM
F2- Maybe the drivers are afraid to go behind closed doors with any official. They already have one lawsuit pending. Can you imagine Mike Helton flashing you?

RacingInsider
Jun 16, 2008
8:05 AM
ooooooooooooo .. that image will haunt my dreams !!! ooooooooooooo !!!
8^)

klvalus
Jun 16, 2008
8:30 AM
Great post Forensic! I take a dig at Nascar on H/N this week about this very topic, if they let me keep it in...

I plan on asking for an "off the record" response from Kurt on that meeting this weekend. Lots of dirt to try to dig up!

moseby
Jun 16, 2008
9:28 AM
Think that 90% of what the drivers complain about is just plain horsec*r*a*p.

But do think that they need to get better ventilation in the COT and believe NASCAR will work with them on that.

F2, these guys now have to race the car for the duration. They can't just ride around until the last 100 miles. If they want to shorten races, that's okay with me, but don't want to hear anymore crying about how hard the cars are to handle - It is called racing fella's. Drive your car.

Gerrel
Jun 16, 2008
3:35 PM
Nice post Forensic. Seems like they will be "tweaking" this COT for some time still. I can imagine the drivers frustration, but then again NASCAR wants the fans to see everything through the rose #### glasses. I would side with the drivers though. How can NASCAR improve the COT if they dont continue to receive feedback from the drivers?

Forensic2
Jun 17, 2008
6:42 PM
Frevr3 - Oh man that is too much info on that. I have to agree with RacingInsider on that will haunt me as well. thanks U 2.


Kristen - Yeah I wonder about it being to sealed up ? Maybe Kurt will answer that or maybe he will have to off the record now that they are toung tied. Cheers

Forensic2
Jun 17, 2008
6:48 PM
MOSEBY - Lets hope so if it is too sealed up. I hear you about the last part. Maybe the drivers are thinking NASCAR is not moving fast enought ? thanks and Cheersss


Gerrel -Very nice comment and on the money. Thats what I am asking. Cheers

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