I don't care if Bonds and every other MLB player did massive amounts of steriods for years before it was outlawed. I barely care if they do any now that they are outlawed by MLB.
Point is, if the stuff would have been available to former players fifty years ago, you can bet your backside they would have done them too.
So, why is the government spending millions of my tax money on something that is a MLB issue, instead of providing health care, and food and clothing for the poor or our veterans?
I understand Barry Bonds is a bit of a jerk. Guess what, I don't care!
They say some want to put an asterisk on a baseball... think it's stupid, see sentence two above, but ultimately, I don't care!
This is such a waste of time and money better spent on helping people I can't even begin to understand why the public doesn't outrage...
You are dead on. This society wants to tear down everyone who IS doing their JOB as Bonds DID and the reason they do is so that nobody looks at THEM for not doing a damn thing. Working class poor with no health insurance, senior citizens who worked 50-60 years eating dog food and the layabouts want to tear everything and everyone around them down while they do what? Layabout.
This never should have been taken up by the government to begin with. We as a society have far more important and pressing matters that need to be solved.
I disagree, respectfully. I'm sure you won't shout me down, like a 12 year old did on Lisa's blog.
The cornerstone of our liberties is the truth.
Bonds appears to have lied under oath, for his own reasons.
For this, his illegal drug taking(alleged) may put him in the clink! Baseball and the fans deserve better. When athletes see themselves as above the law, why shouldn't the young and impressionable fans feel the same way about themselves?
sls I won't "shut you down" my point in this is that the government should not have touched this with a corked bat period. This was an issue for MLB, they make more money than the GDP of many small countries, they should be able to handle their own problems without costing the citizens of this country even one penny. The first fault is the governments. Whatever Bonds did afterwards is his problem, but a fair speedy indictment and trail are one of our rights. Why are we still spending the tax payer money on a non-issue 2.5 years later?
Dank,
I know far too many Feds.
Public corruption and terrorism are the major task forces.
Perjury matters greatly. I want prosecution when many think it's persecution under the notion of, "It's not a big deal."
You and I would receive slammer time for it.
I appreciate the distinction between us and a guy who makes more in an evening than I made last year. Whatever he said or didn't say, is his problem. It shouldn't be saddled on us financially or in anyother way.
This indictment wouldn't be here at all if our government had spent our hard earned money on things to improve the lives of the people.
The government didn't get involved in the "steroid" issue because of MLB or any other professional sport. The government got involved because kids were using them in what I have heard termed as epidemic proportions and were causing irreparable harm to themselves. MLB, Bonds and all the others are just very visible symbols of the problem.
My opinion is this. After Conseco's book came out the Feds decided that they had a fine opportunity to get a message to young people in this country that using "steroids" (which are as easy to get as a 12 pack in my area) or any unregulated suppliments will ultimately be harmful in both the physical, economical and social sense. If they took on players their efforts would be on the front page and therefore be an easier sell; especially if it seen that these players are paying a price for their actions. The whole Barry Bonds issue took on a life of its own because of his universal unpopularity and I'm not sure if the Feds are happy or unhappy about it.
If the feds wanted to get involved to spare the young people the side effects of steriod use, they could have taken up that cause at any time in a more cost effective manner.
Like I said above, if the high powered steriods of today had been available 50 or 100 years ago, the players would have used them. Anyone who plays is always looking for an advantage be it steroids or herbal tea, or some other nonsense.
Dragging "America's game" through the mud wasn't necessary. How many football stories have been written, long before Conseco, that discuss the use of steriods? I'm sure most of us consider the 70's the golden age of steroid football, yet you didn't see the government string up the NFL and it's Players.
I'm not even going to suggest that using them is good for anyone except for a few documented medical reasons, I just think the government made this a costly embarrasment instead of a positive cost effective vehical for change.
sls what the heck happened to shut you down anyways? You seem too intelligent to let a 12 year old slap ya around , except to simply ignore them.
Typical end result of 12 year old fights...
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lol no reasonable support of an idea just name calling and unsupported nonsense. I hear it all the time. I'm a captive audience..
there is no way the government should be involved. has sports become so great that the government needs to solve its problems. give me a break, they cant solve there own. a war going on that has no end in sight. gas prices soaring. health care problems, housing market dang near the worst its ever been. and they want to punish A BASEBALL PLAYER? let me say that again, A BASEBALL PLAYER. please give me a break. this should be handled by baseball. not the government. im far from a barry bonds fan but im sick of the government walking around like it can do anything it wants. what ever happen to a country for the people, by the people and of the people? i sure dont see it.
"Like I said above, if the high powered steriods of today had been available 50 or 100 years ago, the players would have used them. Anyone who plays is always looking for an advantage be it steroids or herbal tea, or some other nonsense." - Dank1
I made a similar statement on a blog about 6 months ago and got reamed for it. I played 3 years of low level minor league ball in the sixties. I finally quit when I figured out that I was never going to hit that BeeBee they were throwing at me. But, if someone told me back then that that a syringe of some substance could get me to the next level, my pants would have been down to my ankles before the sentence was finished.
I'm sorry you took heat for something so obvious. I am surprised you had anyone complaining really. Everyone I have ever known has taken some kind of suppliment be it "vitamins" or "shakes" ...something.
I see no reason to pretend it doesn't happen. Just as I don't see any reason to bash players that took advantage of anything available to them to be the best at what they did.
That does not mean I support giving anything to kids or doing anything to harm kids. I'm not suggesting the goal is wrong, just the ways to the end.
Slshusker is probably my favorite person on this blog most the time but he's dead wrong on this one.
The government had no business in the business of investigating Bonds over steriods in the first place anymore than they did investigating Clinton for extra marital sex. I don't happen to like either one of them but when the government messes in people's lives where they have no business in the first place don't be suprised when you get lied to. And what I don't understand about the alledged arch conservatives is you're always whining about getting govt out of our lives which I totally agree with but when you want to "get someone" you instantly use the govt time and time again over and over and hound the issue to death until you come up with "a lie". Screw you people. You lie all the time. You lied when you said you were going to get govt out of our lives.
Outlaw, I'm sending Lisa to give you a hug.
When you answer the door and think it's a UPS guy, it's really Lisa in a costume. Hug him/her.
Anything related to Bonds is a hot button.
Dusty, you believe you're right and I believe I'm right.
Bonds committed multiple crimes with his steroid access and taking. This brought on escalated contracts paying him millions. Can we file class action law suits against the steroids crowd? My self-esteem should be worth millions to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.
BALCO was created to cheat and break the law. Why should anyone be surprised that the ath-a-letes assoiated witht the company are being busted.
And now, back to the Big XII, brought to you by...BCS Anarchy 2007.
If you want the government out of your life, then stop technology from advancing, stop terorism and stop the insanity. Peace out.
They're modern day gladiators. They get paid obscene amounts of money and they spend half their time sucking up the fans money while sitting out "hurt". Put em all on steroids or cut their pay in half and ticket prices in half.
The government got involved because kids were using them
Wrong. The government got involved because they're owned by the pharmaceutical industry and steroids are competition for their "one pill per issue" scheme (steroids help against a wide array of ailments) just like marijuana.
Even if they did get involved because kids were using them, then just outlaw steroids for minors just like they do for tobacco.
fter Conseco's book came out the Feds decided that they had a fine opportunity to get a message to young people in this country that using "steroids" (which are as easy to get as a 12 pack in my area) or any unregulated suppliments will ultimately be harmful in both the physical, economical and social sense.
I applaud you for this well-written, lengthy string of B.S. You must have really had to dig deep to pull that one out.
Anyone who thinks that the government has your, mine, or anyone else's but themselves, and those cutting their checks, best interest at heart, I advise you to take your head out of the sand and scratch your eyes to see the government I see: the government owned by industry lobbyists that vetoes healthcare for children and ignores disabled war veterans.
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