Terrel Owens says he's been to dogfights down South, that they're common. Clinton Portis wasn't surprised and said that dog-fighting was no big deal. Even Stephon Marbury chimed in when the subject arose. But leave it to Whoopie Goldberg to clear it all up for us. Evidently, we should cut the ex-Falcon QB, current felon a break because dog-fighting is a "cultural thing".
Thank you Whoopie. Even though you had no answers when Joy Behar asked you if animal electrocution and murder were "cultural things", you really cleared it up for me. So I'm perfectly willing to drop my beef with Ron Mexico and those who support him with such reasoning, with only one requirement.
They just have to acknowledge that the racism, seperatism, lynchings, and murders that took place in the first half of the 20th century, were just a "cultural thing". Slavery too; just a "cultural thing". The ####, and hate mongers in general; just a cultural thing.
You see folks, it's very easy. Once one excuses abuse, torture and murder as a cultural affect, one doesn't get to choose which abuses, tortures and murders are acceptable.
Like Heidi Klum says, "it's fashion baby, you're either in or your out".
One either blithers ridiculous excuses for sociopathic/psychopathic behavior or they don't.
Of course I can't help but wonder, like MattFaw asked, how much Whoopie would have had to say if it was David Carr who bankrolled dogfighting and tortured and murdered animals. Would it be a "cultural thing" then, Whoop?
Actually, I don't wonder. There's no question in my mind that Whoopie would have had either nothing to say, or she would be lambasting any white QB at every turn.
Because dogfighting is not a "cultural thing". It's a gruesome excuse to experience the most base and prurient primal instincts. Just like tying black me to the back of cars and dragging them until they're torn to pieces, is not a "cultural thing". Just like raping black female slaves is not a "cultural thing". They're just acts of depravity.
So let's call it by its right name folks. Whoopie is a flaming racist, hates white people and will dive headlong at any excuse to minimize the crimes perpetrated by blacks.
Now, making excuses regardless of how heinous one's actions are, that's a "cultural thing".
CR: Good! Now if someone would only look into the history of dogfighting, I am quite certain it had its start by "white trash" in the South/it was very prevalent among people out West too. Blacks were more into "cockfights" in the South. Both were cheap entertainment for these persons. It was and is the same for peoples of Hispanic heritage, that is, cockfighting, especially in the Carribean areas. (sorry I don't want to look up that proper spelling of Carib....). AND what about Bullfighting?? Isn't that just as bad? Fuzz
Bullfighting happens to be illegal in the USA as well.
For decades from the very beginning of "talkies" there was a Hollywood cultural thing called "the casting couch" where aspiring actresses had to sleep with a producer or director or studio head to even get a role. good think that's not acceptable anymore huh Whooooooopppppiiii or we'd never have heard of you or Rosie or Rosanne among many others right?
When I was born around 1950 (ok before 1950) a man could beat his wife, beat his kids and nobody interferred. It was just the way it was. Little something called "a man's the king of his castle". Cultural thing.
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Well Chris I think you pretty much put this one to bed. Not that anybody would really want to go to bed with someone named Whoopi....lol.
Hey the View is the new place where famous people go to say stupid things. Do we really expect something intelligent to come out of the mouths of Hollywood leftists though? I mean seriously? They are a bunch of crazy freaks!
In the 1950's the corner drugstores had something called a cherry coke for 5 cents. Black kids heard about it but we couldn't go in there and get us one even if we all had a nickel. Was a cultural thing back then. Same with hotels, motels, restaurents, public restrooms, water fountains. You know, all those cultural things that goes with dogfighting?
In the sixties you didn't have a choice whether to go to war or not if you were male. The govt said everyone not rich and white went to war including poor whites. Just the way of a cultural thing called the draft was.
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Clear up until the mid or late 80's if a boss wanted to hit on a hottie woman employee and she shut him down, he could get away with just firing the uncooperative (w)itch, right Whoopie? Engrained cultural thing since time began pretty much in this country wouldn't you say?
There was a time in this country when a Nun was always portrayed as the nice demure, even saintly person. And even Sally Field went flying as a nun she was still a "good girl" huh Whoopie? Then someone parlayed being a con artist hiding out in a habit into pretty much a whole career didn't she? I wonder why that person didn't feel the need to continue the culture of the saintly nun?
Ever since I can remember during my 60 years women have made less that men on the job overall. The "glass ceiling culture" I think it's called? Haven't you been involved in some of the speaking out about that Whoopie? Do you only oppose the cultures that you see as wrong?
The right to choose an abortion was not available to women for the large majority of this countries history and remains taboo in many countries and to many people in this country. Yet you have consistently stood up for the woman's right to choose over the culture that thinks it's murder. You believe those "pro life" people to be totally wrong? I have heard you quote "the majority of people in America support a woman's right to choose". That is correct. At the same time there is a larger % of people quite obviously opposed to dogfighting that there is pro abortion. But you excuse dogfighting?
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Trust some sort of cultural icon to try and excuse Vick's behavior as a social grace. And I suppose she'd have excused his behavior had he been having sex with an underage minor ?
WTF is wrong with some people ? Have they no understanding of human decency and respect for others ? Goldberg like Marbury, Owens , Portis, Roy Jones Jr, the NAACP and SCLC are about as relevant in today's society as ant is in a pool of water. It'll either sink or swim to safety. Personally I'd like see 'em all sink in a quagmire #### matter.
Why is there a double standard? Vick did something wrong but how much worse than killing a deer? People kill deers for sport then hang the head on a wall for show. This is horrible killing an animal should be wrong only right in self defense. Should we care about a deer the same way we do a dog, cat, or whale?
Well, deer is used for food; that is the big difference. Dogs are used for food (used to be,mebbe still are)in Korea. Cats makeup some of Indians (the ones from India) vittles. Thing is we don't raise deer/cats to fight each other do we? Sport? I think not. Fuzz
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Dogfighting is illegal and deerhunting isn't. It may seem abhorrent to you but that's just the way it is. Do you feel any different when you see a seal being clubbed to death by eskimos up in the Arctic ? There the indigenous population make good of the meat. Those who pursue the alleged sport of dogfighting just toss the remains away as they see fit. In the case of Vick however he chose to maim, torture and kill them if they didn't perform up to his "so called " standards. Do you not understand that and the difference that it implies ?
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