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by: BobbyMcMahon
UEFA, the European Union and who actually runs the game in Europe.
Jul 23, 2008 | 7:44PM | report this

A week or so ago it was acknowledged that the six most powerful team sports in Europe were knocking on the door of the European Union asking that they rethink their position on sport.

It should have come as no surprise as UEFA, along with the governing bodies of rugby, volleyball, basketball and ice hockey, announced just over a year ago that they would be joining forces in response to what they saw as “a very timid and indecisive attitude” taken in an EU White Paper on Sport that was issued in the summer of 2007.

While recognizing the vast array of problems facing sports within the European Union the White Paper offered no solution other than essentially maintaining the status quo of civil courts ruling on contentious matters – the same system that has brought about the problems facing sport in Europe today.

And there lies the key problem – without sport being viewed as as special case and not subject to the the laws and rules governing normal businesses we are destined to see an even larger gulf between rich and poor, an even greater degree of competitive imbalance and the paradox of a sport awash with money and slowly dying.

It is not as if UEFA and European Union politicians do not recognize the problem and in some cases agree on the solution. Almost a decade ago there was the Nice Declaration which accepted the beneficial qualities of sport and why sport should be treated differently. The benefit of sport to society in general was highlighted and it was stressed that sport as a business should be a secondary consideration.

"The European Council has noted the report on sport submitted to it by the European Commission in Helsinki in December 1999 with a view to safeguarding current sports structures and maintaining the social function of sport within the European Union. Sporting organizations and the Member States have a primary responsibility in the conduct of sporting affairs. Even though not having any direct powers in this area, the Community must, in its action under the various Treaty provisions, take account of the social, educational and cultural functions inherent in sport and making it special, in order that the code of ethics and the solidarity essential to the preservation of its social role may be respected and nurtured."

Fine words indeed but the declaration has never been ratified and it stands only as a testament to good intentions but no action. The Declaration came only four years after a EU court brought down the Bosman ruling which allowed players to move freely at the end of the contract.

The ruling, combined with an unprecedented inflow of cash to some teams through domestic television deals and Champions League money, has brought unprecedented wealth to a minority of players, agents and opportunistic owners ready to sell to any passing billionaire.

However, it is also brought unsustainable debt levels to many clubs regarded as the elite as well as those trying to stay competitive. It has also brought the risk of financial ruin to clubs that have spent heavily but found that they have missed out on a place in the Champions League or have been relegated. Only the most myopic amongst us can fail to see that soccer in its present form in Europe is operating under an unsustainable business model.

And it is an issue that has worldwide implications. We may be talking about Europe but because football in that part of the world generates more money than any other Federation the reality is that FIFA cannot impose global standards and regulations without ensuring that they will pass the EU acid test.

So why, if there is a level of agreement on what needs to be done, has no action being taken to deal with the problems and to allow sport governing bodies to govern their respective sports?

Some of it is down to history, some of it is internal bickering and a good part of the reason is that until lately sport governing bodies have been ill-equipped to actually govern and regulate in the 21st century.

It took a long time for UEFA and FIFA to wake up to the fact that the European courts held more power over sport than the governing bodies did.

Two decades ago then UEFA President Jacques George made it clear where his organization stood. “UEFA can make up whatever rules we want as long as they are within Swiss laws and have nothing to do with the EEC (now the European Union)” he stated arrogantly…and very mistakenly.

Even after the 1999 Bosman ruling it seemed that FIFA/UEFA’s strategy was to battle the EU rather than to work cooperatively with them. It wasn’t until implementation of global transfer regulations earlier this decade that FIFA clearly acknowledged the pivotal role played by the EU. FIFA was forced to amend some of the proposals when it became clear that some rules would be flagged offside by Brussels.

But even since we have seen Sepp Blatter aggressively push and promote his 6+5 proposal which would mandate a minimum number of players on a team that would also qualify for the domestic league’s international team.

Such a proposal runs contrary to the EU’s principle of the free movement of labor and there is not a hope in hell that under EU law that such an idea will ever be implemented.

The nature of the Blatter proposal can only serve to reinforce the notion amongst politicians and bureaucrats that soccer cannot be given special status because they cannot be trusted to operate within a broader range of legal and political principles.

As well it would be delusional to say that all the football entities that fall under the UEFA banner agree with the governing bodies’ position. The Premiership is one such example o####roup that has benefited from the changes over the last 15 years and has, at every opportunity, worked to undermine any proposals that might damage their narrow self-interest.

Another was the now defunct G14 which has now been replaced by the European Club Forum. The ECF is made up of over 100 clubs and it will at last provide a way by which clubs can have their issues communicated directly to UEFA rather than through the relevant domestic association.

Domestic associations have a myriad of stakeholders and issues and the clubs have long felt that there legitimate interests have not been given a fair hearing at the highest level in UEFA.

The creation of the ECF is seen as an important step in the reorganization of UEFA and moving it from a body that organizes competitions to one that is also is in a position to govern and regulate the game in Europe properly.

So does the latest initiative from UEFA have any chance of succeeding?

The proposals from UEFA and the other five major sports were of no great surprise dealing with issues such as home-grown players per club (defined very differently than Blatter’s proposal); a licensing system that takes into consideration debt levels; greater regulation of agents and better educational opportunities for youth players who may fail to make the grade.

A form of salary capping has also been discussed and debated on a number of occasions by UEFA. Such a cap would not mimic North American type wage restrictions which tend to focus on ensuring as even a playing field as possible by setting standard levels throughout a league. Such a system has little or no chance of being accepted by the EU.

However, UEFA believes that capping salaries based on a percentage of the club’s revenue would not run counter to EU rules and regulations. By relating the cap to revenue generation, UEFA could argue the position that they are merely mandating good management rather than capping what a player may earn.

Whether sport is given special consideration under EU law or not one thing is clear and that is that the majority of clubs are unable and unwilling to reign in their spending preferring to operate on the basis that someone richer and more foolhardy will come along to save the club at some point if needed.

Either the European Union has to confront the problem or provide UEFA with the powers to deal with the issue. Otherwise soccer in Europe will continue to suffer from the prune juice effect as so aptly described by former Tottenham Hotspur owner Sir Alan Sugar – to paraphrase, the money coming into the game is incredible but it comes in and goes out straight away.

It is time for the European Union and/or UEFA to find a way to add some fibre.




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djnima19
Jul 23, 2008
8:00 PM
Hey Bobby!
Great post! Do you think that capping salaries and or trying to limit the spending power of the bigger clubs can work? Don't you think the clubs will find some other way of getting around the restrictions? It seems like right now even the rules that are in place governing transfers, registration, etc are broken left and right?

Do you think there is any truth to the allegation that Blatter and Platini are jealous of the BPL's success and want to see English football lose it's place as (arguably) the top league in Europe?

Thanks for your time

JayAlves
Jul 23, 2008
8:38 PM
I honestly think its going to take a top 10 club capsizing under their debt for everyone to clue in again that the Leeds business model is too high risk. Wenger and Arsenal fans that appreciate him not mortgaging the future will be lined up for their "I told you so's".

First and foremost they need to get to work on reigning in the agents. The way I understood it agents started as a person to give guidance to players who honestly lack(ed) the business savvy of knowing what a good deal is and what is getting ripped off. They have now mutated into speculation rumor mongering greedy sobs who only care about getting their clients transferred each year or sign a new contract to collect their % on the fees. I honestly think Ade's agent would and could convince him to go to Siberia if the price was right.

tomwilhelm
Jul 24, 2008
5:50 AM
Longtime reader, first time writer.

Fantastic analysis, Bobby.

Trying to maintain a bit of optimism, the question I have is what's it going to take to sweep away the entrenched system without them taking the game down with them?

And more importantly, what would a new global club governance system look like?

LetsGoBuffalo
Jul 24, 2008
6:04 AM
Bobby-Admirable sentiments but how do you convince the people in power to stop liking money?

You point out that many clubs are debt ridden, well if there is a spread of wealth then how do those clubs in debt get out of debt? That is, if they have to start sharing their wealth.

Finally owners of smaller clubs are at as much fault as the big guys. For example, West Ham didn't have to sell all of their youth academy to the different teams in the premiership.

I'm sure I'm missing many players but off the top of my head, can you imagine if the Hammers would've had Rio Ferdinand, Joe Cole, Frank Lampard and Jermaine Defoe playing for them this whole time?

In fact if they try to put a "control" on the way business is done, it will cut revunues from the game. Galactico-type teams is what draws the fair weather fans in and thats the money they are looking to get because they know that us die-hards are going to watch no matter what.

I'm a firm believer in the saying: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I don't see the system as broke, I very well could be myopic, but I also remember when I started watching and I would be the lone American sitting in a bar full of English people staring at me as if I was retarded. Now its shown on sports bars all over the place. In fact the volume of games being shown has increased ten-fold and they aren't shown on PPV at $20/game.

getz76
Jul 24, 2008
8:25 AM
Capping salaries based on revenue? Chelsea for relegation! ;)

aldoray
Jul 24, 2008
8:44 AM
Bobby, appreciate the idea and your reasoning seems fair. but lets all be realistic this salary cap thing is unlikely to happen and to be honest i think the 39th round has a better chance than this.

Anybody know anything about this Ngog kid that liverpool have signed. I tried to check his stats and this guy does not seem to have a very good strike rate. I wonder where benitez is going with this. I have not been too happy with our transfers this summer except for the 2 fullbacks. and the barry thing does not seem to be working out and now Torres is going to have to be getting support next season from a 19 year old.

BobbyMcMahon
Jul 24, 2008
9:46 AM
The changes will happen when a couple of the more prominent clubs in Europe sink. It will happen - it is only a matter of time.

BobbyMcMahon
Jul 24, 2008
9:48 AM
getz76 - the impact of linking salaries to revenue means that owners would have to put money into the club with no strings attached. No loans,interest free or otherwise.

LetsGoBuffalo
Jul 24, 2008
10:32 AM
I'll just say I disagree that much is going to change. Leeds have capsized, nothing has happened except to punish them further.

The "mighty" Real Madrid almost went bankrupt(and in reality did) but had one of the most amazing sales and deals that saved them. And nothing happened.

United, apparently, is in so much debt yet they are spending like daddy's money won't ever run out. Same goes with Chelsea.

Liverpool owe creditors a sizeable amount yet are able to purchase Torres for 24m quid and that wasn't the only spending they did(Babel at 11m as well).

For a change to happen it would take at least three of the major European clubs to fall from grace and at least two have to be English.

Sorry to say but England runs the way in terms of football. The business that is. Obviously not on the field(*just clarifying for Gong:)*)

danielgregg
Jul 24, 2008
11:03 AM
Wow, two superb analytical posts in the space of a couple of days, to hell with anything in the Guardian or the Times, Canada's got a far better analyst of the sport!

The thing that strikes me about big clubs like MU and Chelsea is just how long their model can be sustained. Ok, Chelsea's can probably be sustained indefinitely -- but it's still contingent on owner whim and caprice. And not even Roman is invulnerable to worldwide financial downturns that are severe enuf. MU basically finance their transfer budget thru debt. How long can they go on like this?

getz76
Jul 24, 2008
11:16 AM
I agree Bobby. I was being sarcastic about Chelsea, but I think the Roman Abramovich Effect is the catalyst for this type of change.

I am not making judgments or being bitter, but Chelsea can spend willy-nilly, regardless of the financial consequences. That is a fact. Chelsea (i.e., Abramovich) does not care if club is not a going concern.

I actually applaud Abramovich for that. He is the ultra-fan, if you think about it. I guess it helps when you have the kitty he has, eh?

But Abramovich affects the rest of the transfer market and players salaries. To a degree, this is the same effect George Steinbrener had in America baseball.

How can other teams compete? Not every team can be owned by an ultra-rich fan... so eventually the whole thing will blow-up.

MasMaz
Jul 24, 2008
1:53 PM
I mostly agree. Only I say anyone (Roman) can do what they want with their capital. So I would only agree that clubs should have to maintain a minimum debt to equity ratio. So if an individual or a group wants to put their equity into a club they can spend without limits. I would only limit debt financing.

JayAlves
Jul 24, 2008
1:54 PM
If were going to mention baseball don't blame/credit Steinbrener with the baseball wages. Boras + horrible owners are where the wage inflation is happening. Hicks bid himself up on A-Rod and set the disastrous standard of what player could be payed. Boras struck again with the extension of A-Rods deal and fleecing the Giants on the Barry Zito deal.

I really wish crystal clear financial's of teams were available of all teams in all leagues. I would love to pick apart what Bayern pays its players and where it exactly gets its revenues then compare it vs the big Spanish teams, Italian, English and even the smaller leagues like Portugal, Holland and France. Will be interesting this season if Ronaldo stays at M.U but he never fully recovers from his injury. A short CL run and a 2 or 3 finish in the league would be very interesting to see what it did to their solvency.

Oh yea just as some wanted to peg Spurs as the team to challenge for 4th it seems they are having a fire sale of their bench players. Wonder if all their new players can adjust to England right away and if they don't catch injuries. I wonder if they will even have XI players... no thats too far and silly of a statement to make of any team.

Last edited by JayAlves on July 24th at 1:56 PM.

LetsGoBuffalo
Jul 24, 2008
4:43 PM
Jay-I'm pretty sure that was a shot at me so I'll just respond by saying, what? That doesn't make sense. The "firesale" that you're talking about has been common knowledge for a while now and Keane and Berbs are thought to be going as well.

So what changes from what was already said?

LetsGoBuffalo
Jul 24, 2008
4:43 PM
Flash-Was that you calling for Brennan?

LetsGoBuffalo
Jul 24, 2008
6:00 PM
If Craigy and Rico still check- Do you guys see Stevie Nicol making a move to Europe to manage there sometime soon?

Venti_vidi_vici
Jul 24, 2008
6:24 PM
Let's not forget that Abramovic is not 'spending' money on Chelsea - he is merely loaning money to the club interest-free. If or when he decides to leave, the club has 18 months to pay him back in full.

redfan4ever
Jul 24, 2008
6:32 PM
Leeds sank and nothing happened. It will take more than a couple of teams to sink to change things. With betweeen 4 and 6 or so teams monopolising the top leagues in Europe, each one empowered by business or individual wealth, nothing will change unless another Bosman type ruling changes the rules to disadvantage the moneyed clubs or their owners.

I do not see a 'Bosman' coming anytime soon, heck it took how many years to dismantle the G14?

Re Spurs:
Ramos is clearing house to build a team. It will take him two to three years but he will do it or walk, he's that kind of guy. Question is what does he replace the mediocrity with? There are few top quality players available and the limited budget Ramos has, will test his ability to forge a team and coach it to success.

JayAlves
Jul 24, 2008
6:38 PM
Don't flatter yourself LGB you don't deserve that much attention.

It was a shot at anyone who wants to start making grand predictions especially when a transfer window is very much still wide open. The 3 real players that Spurs are set to lose are pretty good depth players for the Prem and why other clubs especially Sunderland are after them. The Keane and Berb rumors aside losing those 3 and maybe Malbranque also shortens up their bench.

Portsmouth also are rumored to be losing Muntari tomorrow to Inter if hes actually over their for the medical.

Like I said before it will be the same 4 at the top this year and thats really not a grand prediction just the obvious one.

LetsGoBuffalo
Jul 24, 2008
8:21 PM
Flatter myself? You took words that I said to you and put it in your comment.

You do all the flattering for me big guy:)

Btw, making predictions is pointless at this point of time? Jesus Christ dude, when are predictions ever NOT pointless?

Let people do their predicting especially since you are so certain on predicting that Spurs WON'T finish fourth or higher.

albertagooner
Jul 24, 2008
8:44 PM
Nice post, Bobby. The guiding economic principle in football seems to be the "greater fool" theory, where owners don't make money operating clubs but selling them to richer men seeking a vanity investment. It also seems utterly insane that banks would be willing to lend money to clubs based on future ticket revenue over 25 years.

LetsGoBuffalo
Jul 24, 2008
9:07 PM
There has to be more than just future ticket revenue for banks to lend money.

Guskeri
Jul 24, 2008
9:09 PM
Bobby..I disagree, somewhat, with your prediction of the pending demise of the sport of soccer.

Do you think all of these billionaire owners are stupid to invest in a losing business? They have become moguls because of their smart thinking. Before they started investing, they studied the market and found out that the amount of money that is coming to the sport is huge. Look at all these TV deals out there.

The future of the game is not in Europe. It’s going to be a global economy. The European teams are looking for marketing in Asia, Australia and North America, and the amount of money involved is huge.

Salary cap will not happen soon. It’s one feature of the game that will continue to grow until the public demand otherwise. As long as there are people who are willing to pay for sky-rocketing ticket prices and expensive TV coverage, There is going to be a continuing inflation in the sport.

Last edited by Guskeri on July 24th at 9:19 PM.

anewfan
Jul 24, 2008
9:30 PM
I do not know what the other sports in Europe do, but how can you square salary cap/revenue sharing concepts with promotion and relegation?

It seems like promotion and relegation worked as long as the money was not too big. With big money why would any owner who paid top dollar for a top club agree to any degree of relegation risk?

davard
Jul 24, 2008
10:15 PM
I normally find myself pulling for Arsenal, but if T'Ham get Arshavin AND Pavlyuchenko, I could not resist supporting them. I think they'd be perfect for Arsenal - Arshavin is fast enough, and Pavlyuchenko is tougher (and better) than Bendtner.

Now is the time for Wayne Rooney to rise up and make the Premiership his own. He's due to have a couple titles without Ronaldo.

Since Ronaldo's not playing, I could see Real and ManU dragging this out to the final moment of August, making for the most dramatic, soap-operatic, and finally, most expensive transfer of all time.

Ronaldo deserves such drama - he wants to be the greatest ever, and believes he can. I've seen nothing to doubt his quest.
Make it so.

flashman
Jul 25, 2008
4:48 AM
Bobby: Very nice situational report. Not sure it'll get you that job you covet with 442 magazine or even be taken seriously by someone reading in Europe.

But you should be doing a syndicated column for the dailies over here. Could I even encourage you to forward your particulars to the Toronto Star, direly in need of a proper soccer columnist. The bitter boy currently handling the job also works as a baseball beat writer. It's not working.

LGB: The Brennan chant had to wait until our hoarseness cleared up. After booing the shabby opening ceremonies and singing Oh Canada over top of the US anthem, we sang "You'll Be Deported In The Morning" to all the West Ham fans parked up in one corner of the stadium.

A fun night, good atmosphere and some pretty decent goals.

LetsGoBuffalo
Jul 25, 2008
6:59 AM
Flashy-It was a fun game to watch. It was interesting to listen to Steve Nash and to find out he's a Spurs fan.

Canadians booing/singing over the "Star-Spangled Banner"? Get out of here!

Having gone to quite a few Leaf-Sabres games over the years I'm more surprised when it doesn't happen.

albertagooner
Jul 25, 2008
7:17 AM
LGB,

It's actually quite common. Manchester City, Everton and Arsenal have all secured loans against future ticket revenue. In City's case, they secured the financing based on their support after relegation. It's still pretty dodgy because most people would regard football as discretionary spending that would be highly vulnerable in an economic downturn.

Guskeri,

You will never get rich investing in sports, which is why really smart businessmen -- Buffett, Gates -- stay away from them. They are vanity investments, something that most people who buy clubs or franchises acknowledge. Anybody who has read Lords of the Game by John Helyar will understand that just because you're brilliant in one industry doesn't necessarily guarantee you'll succeed in being a successful owner of a club or franchise.

getz76
Jul 25, 2008
7:27 AM
@ albertagooner

RE: "It also seems utterly insane that banks would be willing to lend money to clubs based on future ticket revenue over 25 years. "

The bank usually does not bear the risk of loss, or at least not the majority of it. They sell the debt to various parties.

I work in finance, and have worked on several large ($5 billion +) public offerings and smaller private offerings.

Where there is an investment banker, there is a deal. The investment banker (Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Credit Suisse, etc) makes money on the transaction and takes no financial risk (just risk of failure to do their fiduciary duty in reviewing offering documents, or negligence or fraud).

So, an investment banker finds someone who "needs" money, and then they go and find people willing to take a high risk debt that pays a high interest (i.e., Glazers' ManU debt and its huge interest payment). Risk and reward.

But the investment bankers are very good at convincing people the need to issue debt (borrow money) and very keen at find buyers for that debt. Football is business.

The Arsenal debt on the Emirates is different; it is truly securitized with the structure. If Arsenal fail to make payments, the security holders can go after the stadium. I do not believe the ManU debt is securitized, but I could be wrong.

JayAlves
Jul 25, 2008
7:33 AM
When did rich people automatically become smart businessmen also? Your assuming all these people amassed their own fortunes or that they didn't reach the top under very favorable situations.

Roman might be a smart man but hes not worth anywhere near what hes currently worth under different circumstances. The fall of the Soviet Union has made many quick billionaires.

Redallover
Jul 25, 2008
8:19 AM
I'm sorry, Bobby, but I have to disagree with you on this one. Sports should be not be a separate law unto itself. The same rules that govern all businesses should apply to sports. The athletes involved should have the same rights as any emplyees and the business involved should have the same right to take chances and win or lose on them.

flashman
Jul 25, 2008
10:14 AM
LGB: The anthem booing/sing-over thing wasn't an anti-American bias. People were pissed off because they brought the flags of Britain and America out onto the field and announced the playing of the two respective national anthems. No sight of the Canadian flag or mention of the playing of Oh Canada.

Everyone went, 'WTF, where's OUR flag? Where's OUR anthem?' Boom, cue the booing and the spontaneous outbreak of Oh Canada being sung over The Star Spangled Banner.

Then out trots commish Donkey #### Arber to announce the arrival of a 'colour guard' and the singing of the Canadian anthem. Gotta say that a 'colour guard' is not a normal Canadian pre-game activity. Tres, tres Americain.

I immediately scanned the skies overhead for a fly-by of American fighter jets. Happily, there were none, our sovereignty maintained by a flock of opportunistic TF-C-gulls, prowling for leftover meat pie scraps or spilled nachos.

The Canadian anthem was then sung for about the third time and the game got underway.

And everything happily settled into a normal turn of events. The EastEnders were properly shepherded into a remote corner of the ground and there was enough security on hand that both sides could happily verbally abuse one another without any trouble breaking out. A lovely night, all in all.

Good luck, Alan Curbishley. You'll need it.

Last edited by flashman on July 25th at 10:18 AM.

flashman
Jul 25, 2008
10:29 AM
As for the NashMan, he's always been proud to have the good taste to be a Spurs fan. He was linked to an earlier inquiry about a Spurs investment group that may have included Mark Cuban, but that seems to have cooled.

Now, he's becoming a prominent spokesman for Vancouver's bid for an MLS expansion franchise. Gotta say that Vancouver takes a back seat to all the good work done in Montreal in recent years. They have established solid support and regularly see audiences over 12,000 for tier-two soccer. They'd be an excellent immediate addition to MLS.

Vancouver has to get their stadium bid past a gaggle of tree-hugging knobs on city council. They, too, have great ownership and a great tradition and would make a great, natural rival for the incoming Seattle Sounders. Both Canadian cities would make excellent additions to MLS, bringing large, passionate crowds to their home games.

But Donkey #### Arber is putting a chill into Canadian expansion saying it would not add any value to a national US television deal.

This just in, ####. Your TV deal isn't worth what you think it is. MLS is going to be a largely gate-driven league for the foreseeable future. Not unlike the NHL. Why not go where the game is thriving and work out the details later?

Alright, that's it for a while, I think. I'm off enjoying my status as a lucky member of the 7% of Canadians who own a cottage. Three weeks of loafing, lounging and lazing interrupted by a trip home to take seven kids to see the Toronto-Dallas game on Aug. 3.

Ciao, tuttiquanti!

Last edited by flashman on July 25th at 10:34 AM.

Guskeri
Jul 25, 2008
10:31 AM
Albertagooner and JayAlves:

There are two types of investment, the high risk and the low risk. It’s like gambling.

The high risk investors put themselves at a greater risk of failure but if they win, they win big. On the other hand, the low risk takers calculate their chances of winning and are satisfied with the low percentage yields. Those are the sport investors. They are all, nonetheless, smart people, although luck can be a major player.

And because sport investors are low risk investors, they will monitor the situation very closely and at the first sign of decreasing profits, they will intervene and change course. They will either sell or change the rules of the games to suit their purposes.

FIFA and other confederations have changed so many rules to ensure that profits continue to grow, and they will change them again if needed. Don’t expect any regression to previous rules as long as money being made.

RINGO
Jul 25, 2008
10:35 AM
...and a good time was had by all.

What happened the night before Flash?

atleti
Jul 25, 2008
10:38 AM
Well, I'm officially a Missus as of recently!

atleti
Jul 25, 2008
10:40 AM
Next up? Having the next Maradona!

_drum roll_

RINGO
Jul 25, 2008
10:40 AM
Another good man bites the dust!

atleti
Jul 25, 2008
10:42 AM
Ah, shadduppa you face!

LetsGoBuffalo
Jul 25, 2008
10:55 AM
Atleti-Congrats!!! I hope your wedding dress wasn't the all white of Real Madrid but of the red and white stripes of your beloved Atletico.

I'd hate to see you give in to tradition...:)

Flashy-I don't care when you Canucks boo our anthem during a sporting event. Nor do I mind when we do the same to you:) I see it as a sign of repect rather than a sign of disrespect.

I think flag burning is a step over the line though.

If Davard is right and you bring in Arshavin and Pavelychenko, and all those linked with leaving do leave, who else do you see JR bringing in up front? He has to bring in one more surely.

Of course saying JR reminds me of Dallas and how God awful that show was....

aldoray
Jul 25, 2008
12:28 PM
I cant believe i am saying this but that MLS all star game lastnight was wonderful. But i cant figure out if west ham were just bad or if the all stars were just that good. Beckham certainly showed up and blanco left everybody with a moment to remember but the man of the match for me was shari joseph, the guy was a beast in the midfield and the reason for the MLS victory. Why isnt he in europe?

Last edited by aldoray on July 25th at 12:29 PM.

flashman
Jul 25, 2008
12:31 PM
Ohh! Still hanging around waiting for one straggler.

Atleti, congratulations. Buena suerta in making muchos linda bebes. But do take your time in the process.

LGB: There was not flag burning in Toronto. Far from it. Don't even begin to try to speculate what will happen in the upcoming month of the Running of the Bulls#hit. Who knows who stays, who knows who goes, who knows who comes in at the last minute.

It's all a load of bullspit to me. Call me Sept. 1 to tell me which mercenaries are filling out what first-team jerseys. Getting tiresome, innit?

Aldo: #### on, about Shalrie Joseph. His mighty dreads were flying left and right and he put on a stellar display.

Last edited by flashman on July 25th at 12:33 PM.

flashman
Jul 25, 2008
1:16 PM
Gosh, Bobby, good as you are at writing about matters over the ponds and far, far away, will you ever take the time to stoop down and bend your attention to the game going on in your own back yard?

Although, living in Winnipeg as you do, MLS must seem as remote as any league elsewhere in the world. Buck up, old chum. At least you don't need a passport, yet, to see an MLS game.

Why not tell us about the chances of Montreal and Vancouver getting into MLS' next round or two of expansion. Why look, there's Genuine North American Superstar Steve Nash putting his money and effort into the Vancouver Whitecaps bid to join MLS. And over yonder, there's George Gillette throwing his Liverpool Lightning Rod of Controversy and fat wallet into the kitbag of Montreal Impact's bid to join MLS.

Whaddya say, big guy? Think you can muster up a little article on these teams efforts to join MLS and maybe keep us abreast of what's going on stateside?

leche010
Jul 25, 2008
1:24 PM
Interesting to see Pompey selling Muntari to Inter a year after they signed him... What's more interesting is to see Inter having that much interest in him. He wasn't the most impressive player last season for Portsmouth, he was vastly overshadowed in that midfield by Diarra and Kranjcar.

albertagooner
Jul 25, 2008
1:32 PM
getz,

Thanks for clarifying that, getz. I recognize the difference between bad "unsecured" debt, such as United, and good debt -- such as what amounts to Arsenal's mortgage on Ashburton Grove, which is a tangible asset. I guess I'm shocked at the practice of lending money based on future revenues, which strikes me as very risky (but I'm guessing highly profitable) given that football would fall under discretionary spending for most people. But these are different days, both for football and banking.

Jay,

As somebody who works in the oil industry, I've run into plenty of lucky dumbasses who believe themselves to be geniuses. Alberta is filled with them and they don't understand but for the grace of dead dinosaurs (actually its diotomes, but), we would be a colder, poorer version of Kansas rather than blue-eyed sheiks.

albertagooner
Jul 25, 2008
1:32 PM
atleti,

Congrats!

MasMaz
Jul 25, 2008
1:44 PM
Marriage is a solid contract for a few years and then you can leave on a Bosman.

getz76
Jul 25, 2008
2:02 PM
atleti,

Congratulations.

atleti
Jul 25, 2008
4:08 PM
Thanks everyone!

Oleguer, possibly one of the worst defenders for Barcelona, has signed for Ajax.

Meanwhile, troubles are still brewing in Valencia...

JayAlves
Jul 25, 2008
4:25 PM
Guskeri there is nothing low risk about how Man U are operating their club. I could agree if their debt was directly tied to ticket sales and the Prem T.V deal only as they can bank on those revenues to a certain degree for a very long while.

The problem is when C.L money starts entering the equation your playing with fire. The huge swings in money from just qualifying to the group stage and how far you go in the knock out round is significant. Although I doubt Man U will be knocked out at the group stage or in the first knock out round that would be a significant amount of lost revenue that they currently need. The obvious worse case scenario is not qualifying for the CL which is also a huge long shot but predicting sports is far from a perfect science.

I don't agree with salary guidelines or caps though, if anything it should just be more revenue sharing. More share for the UEFA cup so it cant be ignored, more share for the Championship. Let clubs run how they want and pay who they want but throw the smaller clubs a bigger slice so they can compete also. Funny part is changing the share would be a drop in the bucket for the big clubs but a huge bump to the smaller clubs finances.

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