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Euro 2008 - Day 14
Jun 20, 2008 | 7:12AM | report this
Quarter Final

Croatia v Turkey

Preview – Reaching the quarterfinal stage of the European Championships matches Croatia and Turkey’s best ever performances. For Croatia their previous appearance in the final eight came in 1996. They beat Turkey 1-0 (a late goal from Vlaovic) in the group stage before losing 2-1 to the eventual winners, Germany.

Four years later, Turkey last 2-0 to Portugal in the quarterfinals. In both cases Croatia and Turkey went on to enjoy great runs at the World Cup finals two years later. Both countries became surprise semifinalists and both finished third.

Only time will tell whether either or both can use Euro 2008 as a launching pad for further success in 2010. Both coaches will have more urgent matters on their mind. In the case of Slaven Bilic the biggest worry may be that very little has gone wrong so far.

Despite losing Eduardo da Silva to a broken leg before the tournament, Croatia has operated as a well oiled machine. The defense has been solid, Niko Kovac has provided an effective defensive shield in midfield, while Srna, Modric and Kranjcar have looked lively and effective behind the lone striker Olic.

Even after making mega changes to the starting eleven for the mean-nothing final game of group play against Poland, Croatia still won handily. Comparisons have already been made with the team of a decade ago. Perhaps this Croatian team will evolve into the best ever but it seems premature to compare this team against the likes of Asanovic, Prosinecki, Boban, Jarni and ####.

Bilic started the first game against Austria with two men up front but changed to a lone striker against Germany. The latter formation provided an extra man in midfield and allowed the likes of Kranjcar to attack from deep positions. Expect to see Bilic sticking with a 4-1-4-1 from here on.

We knew going into the competition that Turkey was unpredictable. However, in the three performances so far the word unpredictable gets no place close to what we have seen. On the back foot for most of the game against Switzerland they grabbed a late winning goal as the Swiss pushed forward.

Then came the dramatic finish against the Czech Republic. No one can doubt the fighting spirit of Turkey. But their performances have come at a price. The casualty list is extensive - defender Servet Cetin, Tumer Metin, Emre Gungor and Emre Belozoglu are all either definitely out or extremely doubtful. Suspensions also mean that goalkeeper Volkan Demirel and Mehmet Aurelio are unavailable.

Aurelio in particular will be badly missed. The Brazilian born defensive midfield player has been outstanding in the tournament. In goal we can anticipate that one of the heroes from 2002, Rustu Recber will step in.

Following the World Cup in 2002 Recber transferred to Barcelona but it proved to be an unhappy move. He returned to Turkish football after one season and now at 35 he he has been given another opportunity on the European stage.

The odds are stacked against Turkey and it will need a colossal performance to beat Croatia today.

Referee: Roberto Rosetti, linesmen: Alessandro Griselli, Paolo Calcagno (all Italy), fourth official: Manuel Mejuto (Spain)

Match Report

Croatia 1-1 Turkey (Turkey wins 3-1 on penalties)

If you ever want to show a player or a team why you should never give up, point them towards Turkey’s performances at Euro 2008. Each dramatic finish has topped the one before but you have to wonder how they can possibly beat this one.

After 119 minutes without a goal Klasnic took advantage of a mental error by Turkish goalkeeper Rustu Recber and looked to have put Croatia through to a semifinal meeting with Germany. Recber was caught out of his goal and was beaten to a loose ball by Modric.  The midfielder turned neatly and chipped the ball to a waiting Klasnic who was left in front of an unattended goal.

It was almost inconceivable that with only seconds left that Turkey could recover from such a death blow.  But recover they did and more. Recber pushed everyone forward and pumped a free kick into the Croatia penalty area.  The ball broke to Semih Senturk who had come on after 75 minutes and he lashed shot past an astonished Pletikosa.

It was then to penalty kicks and it was clear that Turkey held a clear psychological advantage. They had fought through a depleted starting lineup, suspensions and conceding a late goal in extra time and and while Turkey knew that they’d come back from a near death experience, Croatia knew that a lapse in concentration had let Turkey off the hook.

When Modric put the first penalty wide the writing was on the wall.  Of the four Croatia penalties only Srna scored while Turkey was successful with all three attempts.

Some may describe this game is drab, others as a game dominated by defenders. But Croatia could have built themselves a healthy lead before the halfway mark in the first 45 minutes.  But the combination of poor finishing-in particular a staggering miss from Olic- and some last-ditch defending from Turkey stopped Croatia from taking the lead. By the break Turkey had played their way back into the game and was beginning to edge Croatia.

The Croatian back four was lying deeper and the knock on effect was Olic as the lone striker was becoming increasingly isolated in attack.  Croatia was also allowing Turkey more space in front of the defense and although Turkey’s chances were restricted to some long-range shots there was a hint that it was only a matter of time before some chances inside the penalty box would come their way.

In the second half Croatia mixed their game up and tried to pick Olic out with some direct play. But it was clear that the game had settled into a defensive battle with both teams struggling to get behind the other’s defense.

And so Croatia is left to regret the loss of a fantastic opportunity for a rematch with Germany while an even more depleted Turkish side will line up in their first ever Euro semifinal next Wednesday.



Comment of the Day
“We have 15 footballers, two goalkeepers and we can make three substitutions. That is what we have.” – Turkey coach Fatih Terim.


Prediction Update
No update today as it is a time intensive process. I will post the leader board at the conclusion of the quarter finals. However, I can add that there are a lot of the leaders that are going to be down to only a couple of teams in the semis.

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LetsGoBuffalo
Jun 20, 2008
8:07 AM
It takes Turkey too long to get into games and it could be their downfall in this one. I'm taking the Croats in a 3-1 victory setting up a day 6 rematch.

RINGO
Jun 20, 2008
8:16 AM
The runt of the quarter-final litter.

leche010
Jun 20, 2008
8:21 AM
I'm thinking Croatia with the 1-0 win today...

I (granted I missed their game vs Poland) have not been at all impressed with Croatia thus far. But then again Greece wasn't exactly impressive in 2004, so take that for what you will. Yeah Croatia went out and beat a very good Germany team... In a game where Germany played like pure ####, and were still right in it to the end.

Croatia's midfield has been rather unimpressive. Especially with as much hype as Luka Modric and Niko Kranjcar got coming in. I have yet to see anything out of Modric to justify Spurs paying anywhere near what they did for him. I mean the guy doesn't ever use his left foot, not for dribbling, not for passing, never, he does it all with his right.

Should be an interesting game today though. Turkey have shown that they can play with anyone, and will definitely not roll over in this one. They're also the only team thus far to show that they can come from behind to get a win, which is promising for them, even if they do fall behind. Croatia just aren't capable of scoring enough goals to put Turkey away before the final whistle blows

Gunner44
Jun 20, 2008
9:59 AM
As long as Croatia plays as good they did against Germany I don't see them loosing. But Turkey play with so much passion its amazing. But I'm still going for a Croatia win. Hopefully its a good game.

LetsGoBuffalo
Jun 20, 2008
10:17 AM
Its the happiest day of the year apparently....We'll see for the loser of the Turks/Croats game.

ZUCO2
Jun 20, 2008
10:51 AM
I will cheer for Turkey but if Croatia wins, I won't mind.

leche010
Jun 20, 2008
12:21 PM
Anyone else not a fan of the some many yellow cards equals a suspension rule?

Don't really see the problem with a player getting a caution or two or three during a tournament, don't think he should have to be suspended for it.

LosAngelesChelseaFan
Jun 20, 2008
12:33 PM
I haven't been able to watch anything but highlights till this match, this week. Both teams seem to be equally inept, spotty and ugly. It might be the HDN broadcast but they all seem to have unnaturally large heads and naturally narrow shoulders, The ref, while less ugly, seems equally inept. This is garbage. Roll on august. i hope foreveryone's sake yesterday's game was better.

gongatore
Jun 20, 2008
1:02 PM
Yeah nothing like the Charity Shield in August. Can't wait for that.

flashman
Jun 20, 2008
1:33 PM
As regulation time winds down, what an intruiging game this Croatia-Turkey match is. Treat for the ear, too, for Canadian viewers with John Helm in fine form.

Not the best played game by any means, but lots of attacking intent. In past years, games like this would have been bottom of the bin stuff with both teams clutching and grabbing and diving the game into submission. This year, everybody's gotta get onto their front foot and go forward.

Last edited by flashman on June 20th at 1:37 PM.

leche010
Jun 20, 2008
1:37 PM
This referee got whistle happy as time winds down... A few of these foul calls have been very weak.

Didn't know refs could give a yellow card when advantage is played... Good to know

ZUCO2
Jun 20, 2008
1:43 PM
Rustu Recber did some fine keeping for Turkey!

Gunner44
Jun 20, 2008
2:02 PM
I think Croatia will look at this game and wish Eduardo was their coz with all the chances they had in 1st & 2nd half a striker of Eduardo's quality would ve' put one away.

Turkey ve' all of a sudden steped their game up. This game is so remenisint of the Senegal-Turkey game from 2002 W.C. Turkey scored a goalden goal to win in extra time...

leche010
Jun 20, 2008
2:17 PM
TURKEY are my new favorites to win... Jesus, do they ever die?

Last edited by leche010 on June 20th at 2:18 PM.

Gunner44
Jun 20, 2008
2:18 PM
Gooooooooaaaaaallllll GooGOGO GOGO GOAAL.... Croatia has nicked it no stupid penalties...

I've to say that Modric is a great player and so far is in my list of players of the tourny...

WTF... Oh ####.. this ####kers....got scored on

Last edited by Gunner44 on June 20th at 2:19 PM.

DoubleX
Jun 20, 2008
2:19 PM
Are you kidding me!! The Turks fight to live again.

Gunner44
Jun 20, 2008
2:22 PM
I really seriously hate penalties...

leche010
Jun 20, 2008
2:33 PM
Gunner- How else do you want to solve it? Penalties are a great test of nerve... Turkey had it today, Croatia didn't...

Absolutely no one can say they "should have won" when you miss 3 out of 4 penalties...

gongatore
Jun 20, 2008
2:35 PM
What a match!
Croatia could have won this in regulation but Turkey, a tip of the hat. What a finish.
Penalties a must. How else do you finish.

Why was there any extra time on the clock?

Turkey has about 14 players for the Germany match, looks like one of the keepers will have to be a field player.
Start your conspiracy theories......

Last edited by gongatore on June 20th at 2:36 PM.

Vidic15
Jun 20, 2008
2:38 PM
I can't believe what I just saw...

This is going down as an unforgettable soccer moment. How many more can Turkey make?

ZUCO2
Jun 20, 2008
2:40 PM
The greatness of the Turkish nation!

Rise for Turkey!

TURKIYE TURKIYE TURKIYE!

nbbo
Jun 20, 2008
2:40 PM
Wow!! What a last few minutes. Kudos to Turkey for never giving up!!

Gunner44
Jun 20, 2008
2:42 PM
true but i still don't like them

u gotta give it to Turkey they just don't know how to quit...

but can they beat Germany with all the injuries and suspension...

DoubleX
Jun 20, 2008
2:45 PM
Given the format, penalties really are the only way to decide it. Is the old replay system feasible?

If you change the format (adding a 2nd group phase), you can create less knockout games thereby minimizing penalties. This was done in the 74, 78, and 82 World Cup and then abandoned.

flashman
Jun 20, 2008
2:48 PM
On the one hand, I enjoyed the Croatians battling against the odds.

On the other hand, the Spurs fan in me says YESSS!!! Get that Modric boy some down time and let him rest up for what will be the season of his life.

Rumours flying hither and yon that David Bentley and Tottenham Hotspur have a done deal to let Bentley live the dream and join the team he's always supported. What is to become of Aaron Lennon?

Sleeper000
Jun 20, 2008
2:51 PM
I think I am going to throw up. No more soccer for me for a while.
How the....?
You score in the 119th min, are you kidding me?
I don't think I am watching soccer for a while.
Time for that Guiness to reduce the pain.

leche010
Jun 20, 2008
2:52 PM
Idealy, I'd say get rid of this Silver Goal thing, and just play Golden Goal until someone scores... It's not difficult, eventually someone is going to have to score, knowing that there is no end for them just sitting back and defending I think would force teams to push forward in extra time, instead of sit back... The problem with this, unlike most other sports, is the limited substitution rule... It's the only thing that keeps this from being feasible...

It's this or PKs... No other way to do it

ZUCO2
Jun 20, 2008
2:58 PM
Turkey for the European Cup title!

gongatore
Jun 20, 2008
3:00 PM
More subs, 5 total. And get rid of the cards accumulated from the Group Stage.
Ah, Fifa is a dinosaur.

Why was there any extra time on the clock in extra time, Mr. Rossetti?

Last edited by gongatore on June 20th at 3:01 PM.

BobbyMcMahon
Jun 20, 2008
3:14 PM
Check how long Croatia celebrated after their goal.

And as I have said before I enjoy penalties and it drives my nuts to here ex-players and pundits describe penalties as a lottery. Nothing of the kind. A lottery is when everyone has the same chance of going through. That is not the case with penalties. Otherwise German would have lost more and England would win some.

Last edited by BobbyMcMahon on June 20th at 3:16 PM.

BobbyMcMahon
Jun 20, 2008
3:17 PM
leche010 - there is no silver goal thing.

ZUCO2
Jun 20, 2008
3:19 PM
Bobby, do you agree that Turkey had a wonderful campaign but now this is the end of the road for them?

cfc70
Jun 20, 2008
3:27 PM
gongatore:
2 substitutions in the 2nd extra-time period @30 seconds each = 1 minute added-on time... And the length of the Croatian celebrations. So a minute was the minimum.

Last edited by cfc70 on June 20th at 4:10 PM.

VanDerVaart23
Jun 20, 2008
3:28 PM
"Each dramatic finish has topped the one before but you have to wonder how they can possibly beat this one."
Bobby - They can still top it, if they go 2-0 to germany in pks and end up winning 3-2 in pks, yes thats right beat the germans in pks, that will top any comeback including pool vs milan, though some might argue. Will be even better if they draw 3-3 pulling a bayern vs getafe along the way

shmish
Jun 20, 2008
3:48 PM
I thought PK was quite suitable today. I can't imagine watching another 30+min of that match. 29 of the 30min of extra time were long balls exchanged between the goalies.

I don't agree with statements that say Croatia lost because of lapse of a concentration. Surely the only reason they were in that position was because Turkey had a lapse of concentration 2 minutes earlier? No, 1-1 after 120min was completely deserving for both teams.

shmish
Jun 20, 2008
3:53 PM
So who thinks Holland will win tomorrow? I think both Holland and Spain are going to need some luck. I think it is very rare that a team keeps putting together fine performances, match after match. My money is betting that at least one of these teams will stumble. The question is whether their opponents will also have an off day!

Thierry_Henry
Jun 20, 2008
4:13 PM
Each competition must have an underdog. this year, it's Turkiye. I predicted Romania

LHJS
Jun 20, 2008
4:18 PM
ZZZZZZZZZZZ...OMG,No beeping way! PK's
So Turkey is next?
Ludwig

leche010
Jun 20, 2008
4:26 PM
Bobby- I thought they called this ET system "Silver Goal"... Whatever... I'm not a fan of it, unless they were to keep going until someone won... I don't like the idea of "You will play extra time for this long, and if there is no winner, go to PKs"... Just go straight to PKs in that case, because more often than not, teams spend 25 of the 30 minutes doing nothing, making sure they don't concede...

If you told teams "You will play until someone wins" I think you'd see more of an effort on both teams to try to score early, at the risk of playing all night long.

Especially in a situation like this, and if they brought back Golden Goal... If both teams know "Score and you win", they'd attack more right away, knowing that the less they play today, the more fit they will be for the next round...

Venti_vidi_vici
Jun 20, 2008
5:05 PM
Silver goal was when a team scores during to first half of extra time and they are winning at the end of that half, they win and the game is over.

Both group runners up are through, beating the group winners so far - I like the trend here. Why are Croatia so good against strong teams, and so tentative against weaker teams? Croatia never tested Turkey's reserve keeper for the first 85 mins of the match. Germany, you are welcome. Turkey barely have enough players left for the semi, and they will have Rustu in goal again. They won't get a comeback win against the Germans, not a chance.

RINGO
Jun 20, 2008
5:16 PM
There's Croats on the pitch ,they think its all over......

Must be tough to lose like that ,glad I don't know what it feels like.

gongatore
Jun 20, 2008
5:16 PM
Good one Bobby on the PK's, you'll find most whingers
re: PK's are well, English.

Can't see how Turkey could possibly beat Germany but then they don't play these matches on paper.

Last edited by gongatore on June 20th at 5:17 PM.

leche010
Jun 20, 2008
5:28 PM
Well, Gongatore... I didn't really think Greece could beat France in 2004... Or the Czech Republic... or Portugal... Twice...

The difference between Croatia and Germany though... Germany have the firepower to put Turkey away early... Croatia didn't...

VVV- As far as Croatia playing well against good teams and bad against bad ones... Could it simply be that Germany played so poorly in their match against Croatia that it made Croatia look really good? But I said all along I wasn't impressed with them...

catgotyourtonge
Jun 20, 2008
5:31 PM
Penalties are part of the game, teams actually know this before the tournament. Its not as if the ref decides how he thinks the game should end, between a shoot-out or cook off(greek-italian final by the way).

Ball in net = Deserved winner

Ron_W
Jun 20, 2008
5:43 PM
Sorry to see Croatia eliminated

I'd rather have sudden death overtime, this would encourage offense. Ending games on penalties would be like deciding an NBA game on free throws. Puke. Sub Shaq before the game ends.

ZUCO2
Jun 20, 2008
5:48 PM
Violence, minor incidents and clashes between turkish and croatian fans occured during the game.

Venti_vidi_vici
Jun 20, 2008
5:52 PM
It seemed to me the game today was conditioned by the fact that both teams felt fortunate to be playing the other at this stage, and were too busy not blowing this opportunity by losing, that they never tried to win. Especially Croatia, who dominated large parts of the match but never put Turkey under any sustained pressure.

I have no problem with penalties. As was the case today, if a team is unable to win they deserve to lose, and therefore both deserve to lose. One has to advance because we have to have a semifinal, so kick some PK's because it's always more entertaining than a coin flip.

gongatore
Jun 20, 2008
6:08 PM
Leche-

Germany did not play well against Croatia maybe because Croatia did not let them.

They outplayed Germany in the Group match, give them credit.

we have been through this before.

Germany has by far had the easiest draw in the tournament.

Cue the conspiracy theory, where's Flash?

Venti_vidi_vici
Jun 20, 2008
6:21 PM
I like the spirit that Bilic brings to the game and his team, but a smarter, more experienced manager would have been preparing an immediate substitution to slow the game down instead of jumping on the pile of players after the goal.

LetsGoBuffalo
Jun 20, 2008
6:44 PM
I've come up with five or six different sentences to start my comment but I just don't know what to say.

Olic had more than enough chances this is where Eduardo would've put them through. No excuses though for Croatia as Turkey were without many key players as well.

I'd say penalties are closer to a lottery than not. David Beckham can put the ball anywhere on the pitch but he has trouble hitting the ball into a net from 12 yards away? Cristiano Ronaldo scored 41 goals this year yet he couldn't make his penalty in the CL final and Anelka who has been a prolific front man for many teams missed the deciding pk. In fact if Terry doesn't slip Chelsea are your European Champs.

I think the basketball analogy is perfect. I like Gong's idea of adding a sub. I think you should add a sub every extra period you go on. Let it be won on the field with teams playing football.

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